hits a candle, shirt catches fire and days later says, oh, it was a prank. >> those late-night hosts always got us. >> something is a bit peculiar about this one. >> well, remember it. don't go anywhere. "smerconish" is starting now. i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. we welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. what a week for people named donald trump. not long after we learned that trump golf clubs had fake "time" magazine covers featuring trump senior hung on the wall, a realtime cover is published that donald junior probably wishes were fake. to many the e-mail trail on trump junior proves his willingness to collude with

russia. >> why is it lie after lie after lie? >> but as i'm about to document, others they could care less. and with all the concern and outrage over russia meddling in our election, how often has the u.s. acted similarly? one researcher's answer may shock you. plus, he's performing one of the summer's biggest rock concert tours and lacing it with angry anti-trump imagery and . i'll ask pink floyd co-founder roger waters if his fans want to hear that or maybe just music? first, i began this year by pledging right here on cnn that i wanted to escape my bubble more often. the election results they took me by surprise and i was feeling disconnected. well, this week i got more than i bargained for from my own sirius xm radio audience. there had just been a succession

of significant stories published in "new york times" about a june 9, 2016 meeting in trump tower we now know was attended by donald trump jr., jared kushner, paul manafort among others. as i've updated my radio audience on those developments, i've been careful to balance my coverage with perspective from the right. on monday after my new summary, the phone lines quickly filled. and first up was a caller who told me that i should be ashamed of myself because i had spent time on the latest bombshell from the "new york times," notwithstanding that i had balanced it with a view from "new york post." the first caller was brad. he was from iowa. >> i thought you were better than this. keep kicking that dog, michael, maybe it will wake up. >> do you find it's significant that the president's son took a meeting with a russian national, involved manafort and kushner, where the promise was we are bringing you dirt on hillary? significant or not? >> big deal? no, not at all.

who cares about dirt on that old hagitha hillary? >> that's not typical. my callers tend to come from the lower 48 and usually represent a nice cross section of the country, both racially and politically, but to my surprise the next caller from vermont basically agreed with brad. many on hold wanted to castigate the president and his son. but instead of taking their calls, i did something i'd never done in 27 years of radio hosting, i cleared the call board and i requested only callers who agreed with the first two. and the results were eye and ear opening. i discovered a huge number of others also maintaining it was the proverbial nothing burger. take a listen. >> cnn, "new york post," "new york times," these guys, they have zero ounce of credibility. i say zero, negative zero. i mean they're just horrible. >> some of the media outlets get so in the weeds with some of

these stories that it just disinterests me after a little while. so even if it's true, that's fine. eventually didn't affect my vote at the ballot box. >> it is an important worthy story, but give it the time it needs and then move on. >> so at this point it just seems like a witch hunt after president trump. >> the only thing i'm angry about trump is he hasn't arrested that witch yet. she should be in cuffs. you're an establish [ bleep ], that's all you are. you're a [ bleep ] -- >> that last part by the way directed at me. i'm the establishment, a, well, you heard it. so if you think the donald trump jr. story is the one that changes trump supporter minds, you might want to think again. my experience reminded me of candidate donald trump saying that he could shoot somebody on fifth avenue and not lose his base. these voices were clearly a revelation to many who don't typically hear them on their go-to news outlets. i made a facebook montage of the audio of these callers to share

these thoughts with the world. it quickly racked up more than 100,000 views in less than 48 hours. now, just to recap, here's what all those callers deemed to be unimportant, over three days the "new york times" kept drilling down on the story of donald trump jr., paul manafort and jared kushner meeting with a russian lawyer. first the meeting was denied, then a false reason for the meeting was offered, the discussion of adoptions of russian infants. and then finally the times called to tell junior they were about to publish his e-mails and he released them himself. they reveal that at a minimum he was game to collude with the russians. who could have imagined that there would actually be an e-mail to somebody named trump offering, quote, very high level and sensitive information, able to, quote, incriminate hillary as part of, quote, russia and its government's support of trump over hillary. but not even these revelations impacted his standing with the base. joining now, matthew rosenberg

of "new york times" who's been part of the times ongoing terrific reporting of all of this. se le na zito, the trump whisperer who writes for washington examiner and co-authoring a book about why trump won. matthew, does that frustrate you to know that your hard work and that of your colleagues in some instances is falling on deaf ears? >> no, i mean, i think that's kind of the nature of the beast here. people aren't always going to agree. and i do hear people when they say why is this important to me, because look, you're going to work tomorrow, you have bills to pay tomorrow, your kids are going to school tomorrow, this doesn't change your life immediately. but i would say to people who are concerned or who don't think this has any real import that, you know, it's not just dirt on hillary clinton or dirt on a political opponent. we don't want -- or we don't have, i guess, allowances to have foreign governments feed information, provide resources to political campaigns because we don't want foreigners playing a role in our elections. same reason why you have to be a

citizen to vote. you can't just wash up in the u.s. and say i'm going to vote today. you know, you have to have lived here, you have to be a citizen. and these e-mails really do establish more than anything else a direct line to the trump family, to their inner circle between them and the russian government saying, look, we want to help you. how far did it go? we don't know. and that's the thing, there's a lot we don't know here. one of the callers who you cited being on the show saying this needs time, she's absolutely right. this kind of investigation could go on for years. but it is something that i think we should be concerned about and i guess the last point and the most important point is that this kind of interference attempt at meddling election, yes, it happened last year. it's going to keep happening. and people are going to learn from their mistakes. and the one way you learn and learn to stop it is by studying what happened in the past by investigating it. i think that's one of the reasons why people should be a bit concerned, yes. >> selena, you know this constituency. is it they're standing with the

president of the united states or that they are anti -- the anti-trump? and does it matter? >> well, i think the thing that we need to maybe think about and explore deeper going forward is, is this distrust that the american people have with big institutions but also with media, this is something that has been ongoing. the last time we had a broad trust with the media was 1964. 78% of the people trusted government, trusted the media. that has just cratered since then. and it's in the opposite, you know, sort of flipped around. it's not that they are just firmly going to be dislodged from trump. it's also that they view us with a lot of skepticism. some of that is deserved. most of it is not. but i think that that's the thing we need to honestly we need to address that. because the american people should have much more level of

trust with the people that are, you know, who are guarding and digging into the greater powers in this country. and, you know -- >> let me tell you what i think -- >> go ahead. >> let me tell you when i think it changes. i don't think it changes -- no disrespect to matthew and "times," it doesn't change when "times" has yet another revelation on the front page. it changes when those mouthpieces for the right to which leadership of the republican party has been abdicated, when they start to take a serious look at what matthew and his colleagues are reporting. i'll give you an example. i showed a snippit of it, let me show you fox news yesterday. roll this. >> this shouldn't be a matter of liberal versus conservative, pro-trump versus anti-trump. if you're a fair-minded citizen, you ought to be concerned about the fact that we were repeatedly misled. >> they tell us there's nothing to this, nothing of it, nothing

burger, didn't write it down, didn't tell you anything about it, wasn't anything because didn't remember it, why all these lies? why is it lie after lie after lie? >> and maybe you're saying, well, shep, unlike some of the others we'll step outside the box from time to time. kathrine, put up on the screen krauthammer's syndicated column. this comes from "the washington post" charles krauthammer. look at the first line, the evidence is now shown this is not hearsay, not fake news, not unsourced leaks. this is an e-mail chain released by donald trump jr. himself. matthew, when it's the charles krauthammers, the shepherd smiths starting to say, hey, this "times" reporting, substantive. maybe then the base reconsiders or not, what do you think? >> i think it's possible. i think there's a certain percentage of americans both left and right who vote their identity. they're not going to shift. they're not going to change. but i think there's a tremendous amount of americans, a number of them who would be fairly horrified to know that a

president, the president now if he did or if anyone close to him did work with the russian government to help secure his election, even if it didn't have any effect, it would be horrifying to know if that is the case. so i think these things can have an effect over time and you're absolutely right. the "new york times" is not going to be the people who immediately make people say, oh, wow, i've changed my mind. it's going to come when their own leaders, the commentators they look to for guidance say, hey, you've golt to pay attention to this. there's a problem here. >> salena, i don't want to focus only on the media. let's take note of the fact that i think this was an enormously significant week. the republican leaders in the house and senate have largely been silent, much in the same way that those callers from the base were reacting to me. what do you have to say about the gop leadership on this? >> i think the gop leadership st in a really terrible position, right? because if you drill down and you look at the numbers of where trump won and where he won big, you know, that's in their

districts. so there's a political price to pay as to do you step out in front of this, do you stand back. i think that the caller, the female caller you had who said this is important and we should, but we'll give it time. i hear a lot of that not just from regular voters but i also hear that from people who are inside washington, people who are part of the establishment, people that are elected officials. one thing i do want to point out that i have found fascinating is the amount of people who didn't vote last year, you know, who found both of them sort of, you know, repulsive, they tend to cheer trump on when he has a problem with the media when these kinds of stories come out. and i find that part fascinating. like we really have a problem that we have to take on.

>> matthew, final question for you, as i've read carefully the stories unfold, i wondered, did the "times" have the trump junior e-mail all along, did you reveal only a little and almost set a trap for him to come up with that adoption story and sort of frankly dig his own grave politically speaking? >> you know, i wish we were that savvy. i can't get into exactly how the story unfolded, what we had when and who we got it from. my colleagues did fantastic work on this story. i think it really does highlight the fact that there's an e-mail out there, this has been news for months, this has been an issue for months. there were multiple opportunities for paul manafort, jared kushner and donald trump jr. to say we had this meeting, this is what happened and this is why i don't think it's a big deal. nobody ever did. and then the transparent moment when donald junior said i'm going to publish all these e-mails, that was done because

that morning the "new york times" had called them, told them we've got this e-mail, we're printing it. we're going to publish it. and then suddenly the white house and donald trump jr. became transparent. that was not a kind of self-awareness kind of, oh, i'm going to have this moment, i'm going to become transparent. they did it in response to the fact those things were about to be published. >> okay, but i think you're saying the "times" didn't have the e-mail when last saturday you dropped the first story. that's what i'm hearing. >> i can't say one way or the other. i really can't. and i hate to pull like a james comey or an fbi or cia thing here, but it's one of those things like on the internal reporting we don't get into. we tend to publish what we know when we know it. >> okay. i hear you. it's a part of the story i'm eager to learn. thank you. salena zito, matthew rosenberg, i appreciate it. what do you think? tweet me or go to my facebook page. i'll read some throughout the course of the program. what do we have, gang? it's just wild. these callers sound like they've been brainwashed by a cult. they just refuse to believe the

evidence right before their eyes and put on blinders when it comes to trump. jennifer, i didn't have to go to the callers to be exposed to this mindset. i'm like i say a butter knife away at family gatherings from much of this thought process, but it's a wakeup call for those of us reading all these revelations, the times, the post, here at cnn and thinking, my god, this is really significant. 46% of the folks in this country are saying hogwash. one more if we have time. i'm glad you took these calls, michael, because it ultimately does no go to ostracize or ignore people with differing views. patrick, i don't ostracize and i like to hear from all points of view, even the guy who called me -- you heard what he called me. up next, roger waters, formerly of pink floyd is back on the road staging one of the most successful and controversial summer concert tours. do his fans want to hear and see his vehement anti-trump message? well, i sat down with him and asked what's up. for your heart...

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them show in support of his new album, is this the life we really want, are as much anti-trump rally as they are a rock concert. take a look. his trademark inflatable pig now has donald trump's face on the side, screens display doctored images of the president vomiting with vladimir putin as a big baby and as hitler. he's turned the 1970s pink floyd animals animals classic into the charade he sees in the trump white house. there's no debate about the impeccable quality of the sound or the production values of the waters tour. but the vehements of t -- accoro waters a major corporate sponsor pulled out in the states although maintaining its commitment in canada.

in 2006, i myself was unsettled when watching him perform at madison square garden. the famous pink floyd pig circled over the crowds about prisoner rights at gitmo. seated three miles from ground zero, i was in no mood for that just five years after 9/11. 15 years after 9/11 i had to admit he had a point. but waters is defiant in defense of his music and message, notwithstanding the way politics has harmed other entertainers. anybody remember the dixie chicks? just this week when i flew to miami to interview him and watch his show, an old waters criticism surfaced, the charge of anti-semitism. the greater miami jewish took out an ad protesting his appearance which read anti-semitism and hatred are not welcome in miami. waters says his criticisms are political, not religious. he has drawn ire as an israel bds supporter, boycott,

divestment and sanctions. he's lobbied performers not to play in israel and regarded the israeli treatment of palestinians as apartheid. on this tour however his performance is silent on that issue. training his bass guitar instead on donald trump. but back in 2013 he had illustrated the inflatable pig with the star of david alongside a dollar sign and sickle and hammer. i was invited to a thursday night rehearsal in miami to witness a dozen local teens from the miami beach parks summer program rehearse "another brick in the wall" with waters, but at the last minute the city pulled the plug on their participation. in the end, other kids did perform the song but not those who'd been eagerly rehearsing. in the midst of this flare-up i went backstage and i asked roger waters about those charges. for my interview you for cnn i've been flooded with facebook comments that say why are you giving a platform to rogers waters the anti-semi.

>> yeah. >> to those people you say -- >> i'm not anti-semi, obviously. it's as plain as, you know, your face. i'm not. i've never done anything anti-semitic. what i have done is i've become an activist to try -- this is what i say to these kids, right, an informed local official and an organized campaign of malicious propaganda, which it is. call me an anti-semi is malicious propaganda. it's because they want to silence my voice. because my voice speaks about nonviolent loving resistance to the impression of an oppressed people. >> now more of my exclusive sit-down with roger waters. ♪ >> let's talk about this leader

that we've elected in the united states. >> all right. >> speak to the audience. tell them the mindset that you put into the presentation of pigs three different ones. >> we were running up to that election and i did feel very strongly about it. and much as i disparage hillary clinton, and i do, i make no bones about it, and however big the questions are that i might have had, you know, with obama and the past administration, donald trump? i've watched this guy operating for the last 20 years. >> do you run the risk of helping him by going over the top? >> no. i don't think help or hindering. what we need to survive his presidency. >> right. >> because it's totally unpredictable. i don't think he knows what he's going to do. >> i'm thinking of a few cultural touchstones recently. i'm thinking of the kathy

griffin isis-inspired photograph she tweeted. >> yeah. >> i'm thinking of the caesar play in central park. >> yeah. >> it occurs to me it plays into his hand inas far toinso far as say look at these leaders against me. he's somewhat inoculated from it. >> well, maybe. this is the responsibility that you and the mainstream media have is to not allow this to be taken as seriously as it is. i mean, i've sort of stopped watching all the talking heads about russia gate and this and that and the other because it seems to me largely irrelevant. there's a larger picture that we could maybe all be focusing on. the problem is for entertainment has got mixed up with news a lot in this country. and in consequence you've got to keep -- i'm not pointing a finger at you. but in general my general sense is that everything has to be

entertaining. and in consequence donald trump is great for the mainstream media because he's such a buffoon. >> now you're a third of the way into the tour, how is it playing in the red states? >> great. you know, the first four or five gigs we started in kansas city and then we went louisville, tulsa, st. louis. and now it's like that was kind of a, woo, i wonder how this is going to be. >> i'm sitting here and i'm thinking for someone who's on the road selling a new record. >> yeah. >> putting fannies in seats and stadiums. >> yeah. >> you're just completely unconcerned about the way that might be received by some of the very people that you wish to reach. >> i'm not unconcerned at all. >> i mean commercially concerned. >> well, you know, in life you

have to make your choices to whether you do the right thing or the thing that makes you the most money. >> you've managed to do both. >> well, who knows how much money i could have made if i'd not -- >> do you think it's cost you? >> i have no idea. it costs -- american express pulled out of this tour. that cost $4 million. that's a short term thing. mind you they're still sponsoring the tour in canada. so it's not the whole corporation. >> roger, is it important to you that your fans, a, understand the message of your music skp, b, that they agree with it. >> well, it's very important to me and that's why the beginning of this tour we've done 20 gigs so far is so great is that people are getting it. >> to that person who's grown up loving the music, who doesn't share your world view, do you still want to look into the audience and see them at this concert?

>> you know, we have maybe ten leave every night. and they go. i mean, i read. i read the stuff on my web page from time to time and i go, you know, this is no big surprise to me. but i do find it slightly surprising that anybody could have been listening to my songs for 50 years without understanding. >> what would you say to someone who is looking for escapism? they're -- >> go see katy perry or go watch the kardashians. i don't care, whatever you want to do, go and escape. >> but if they're looking for escapism from politics, i guess the message is the last place you should be is at a roger waters show. >> yeah, if you're looking for escape from connection from other people on this planet, if you want to be, you know,

separated from your potential to empathize with others, if you want to live in an ivory tower where everybody's an enemy and you need to build walls and you've got to do a better deal with the chinese or whatever it might be that this leader that you've elected thinks is a good idea, well, that's what you believe. >> roger, i may as well tell you, five years removed from september 11, off by just a day or two, i came to madison square garden and i watched you perform "dark side of the moon." and when the pig came out and had written on the side of it habeas corpus matters. >> yeah. >> five years removed, i was in no mood for that message. now, i will grant you that when obama left office and there were, i think the number was 41 still being held at guantanamo with no charges having been filed against them, i'm an attorney, i'm deeply unsettled

about that. five years removed i wasn't. 15 years removed, most certainly i was. so i'm one of those who's in the audience, you know, i'm old enough to have read the liner notes and i'm embarrassed at the times i didn't quite comprehend what you were saying. i've never wavered in my support of the music. i think it's a healthy conversation to have. it's why i like being in your company is because i like thinking about all these things. but i don't agree with you on all of them. >> okay. >> i guess i need to say that. >> okay. but you do agree with me with habeas corpus. >> after that length of time, it's not right they should be held -- >> this is why the rule of law is so important because if we can figure out a rule of law, then that means that we are civilized, at least to some extent. >> you enjoying yourself on the tour? >> yeah. yeah, i am. >> is this the last go-round? you look great. >> i don't know -- who knows.

maybe. maybe not. i don't know. we're like all of this political stuff that you've been asking me, it would be a lot easier to be on tour if i wasn't doing any of this, if i didn't have opinions. >> right. thank you. i appreciate you being so gracious with your time. >> oh, michael, you know, i only wish we could sit here and talk about love more. >> my radio producer, tc in my head telling me that the reaction online to that interview already so overwhelming on both my facebook page and via twitter. we're going to take the time when we come back and try and run through some of your reaction to my conversation with roger waters. and then, are we, the united states, guilty of meddling in other countries' elections? i checked with an expert and he will be here with the results. ♪ if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis,... isn't it time to let the real you shine through? maybe it's time for otezla (apremilast). otezla is not an injection or a cream.

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so about that interview i just did with musician roger waters, formerly of pink floyd. do the anti-trump theatrics of his us and them tour this summer detract from the musical experience? in other words do fans like it when show business idols hold forth like this. i polled my audience as to what would determine their decision to attend a waters concert, about 3,000 people have already voted. and the results were 55% said i would determine only by his music. that would call the shot. 40% said i'd take into account politics and music. 5% said i'd make that decision solely based on politics. so i want to hear what you think. visit my facebook page and twitter, kathrine, what do we have? i know it's an enormous reaction. from facebook, just saw the show in tampa, i loved the resist part but thought that the rest of the anti-trump show was way

over the top and out of line for a concert. i looked as i watched in miami for signs of people who were unsettled by this. did anybody walk out? i heard no boos, big arena. it's where the heat play. but i couldn't see anybody walking out. but some obviously have had that reaction. give me another one. he is welcome to his beliefs, but when you pay hundreds of dollars for a concert ticket, you want to hear and see the show, not listen to someone raving and drooling, i get the lyrical reference about politics. tom, let me tell you what roger waters says about that, he would say to you, you really haven't been paying attention all these years. that there's a consistency to his world view and he's expressed it through his music for 50 or so years. so nobody should be surprised. that's what he would say. another one, i think from facebook. controversial is bob dylan and he won a nobel prize.

arlo guntrie, just following in grand tradition. you could single out performers on both sides -- look, i think i said this earlier. if i made my musical and movie selections based on the politics of artists, i'd be staying home all the time. because it's awfully hard to find somebody who by the way has talent and shares your world view. one more via twitter if we can. thank you for all of these. i really do appreciate it. waters is quintessential artist expressing his opinion through his craft. don't like it? don't go. it's that simple. i watch. i think that's exactly what he would say. in fact, that is pretty much what he said to me. up next, with all the talk of russia meddling in our election, few are discussing this question, has the united states engaged in similar attempts to influence or even interfere with other countries' elections? one expert says more often than you think. and when youod sugar is a replace one meal... choices.

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question, do we have clean hands in the united states? with all this conversation these past months about the russian meddling in our election, there's one question that rarely gets asked and answered. does the united states do the same thing to influence other countries to have a pro-american result? and if so, with what rate of success? joining me now is dov levin, post doctoral fellow at carnegie melon university. he has studied this issue. dr. levin, first of all, what do you bring to the table in terms of bias? are you looking at this with a jaundiced eye? or are you trying to determine what has taken place? >> well, i come from a social science perspective. i began studying this long before this issue became, you know, daily news issue. and i'm trying to learn what are the facts in this regard and provide them to decision makers and to the general public. >> okay.

i just didn't want people to think that you come with a preconceived bias. tell me about your research. summarize briefly what you did and what you found. >> well, i study partisan electoral interventions and when great powers intervene in elections in other countries in attempt to determine the election result, and i find when it comes to the case of the united states that the united states intervened in 81 elections of -- in 81 elections in this manner in 47 countries for this purpose between 1946 and 2000. >> give me an example. >> well, one example of such intervention occurred in italy in 1948 where the united states was worried about the possibility of the communist party winning the election there, so we basically did everything including the kitchen sink to prevent it from winning

the election. everything from increasing our aid to the italian government to threatening that all aid totally would be cut off in case that the communist party would win to giving very large amounts of covert campaign funding to the democratic party to a designing campaign materials for the democrat and other techniques. >> you say that 81 times in 60 countries between 1946 -- let's put this up on the screen. i think we have a list. 1946 and the year 2000, the u.s. has sought to influence the outcome of an election. by the way, are we good at this? are we successful? >> well, my research finds that basically on average the side we

assist gets a bump of about 3% to their vote share, but that is an average effect. in other words sometimes the effect is much larger and sometimes much less, so to speak. >> your research ended in the year 2000, the birth really of the internet age and era. have we ever done what the russians are -- have we ever hacked? >> we did not use computer hacking, no. >> in each of these instances, because this has quite a negative connotation to hear that some will take away from this, well, the u.s. has done it too, has it always been in the name of democracy? have we always sought to oppose communism? have we always sought to oppose a theology governing a nation's politics? i mean, what's the common denominator that has guided the united states? >> well, of course sometimes we assisted, you know, pro-democracy candidates. sometimes of course we assisted the -- sometimes we of course

assisted, you know, corrupt candidate. it varied from case-to-case and from situation-to-situation. >> right. authoritarian though in opposition to who or to what? i take it we went with the authoritarian less a nation should be ruled by a communist, is that the kind of devil's choice that the united states had to make? >> that was many times the case during the cold war, yes. that was frequently our situation, yeah. >> are our efforts, have they been covert or overt? and if your answer is both, which is more effective? >> well, basically i find that about two-thirds of these type of things were covert and about a third were overt. and i find that the overt will usually the more effective than the covert in this regard. >> the overt is more effective, meaning we openly are supportive of one candidate or party over

the other as we make our financial support known. that has a better track record than trying to do it as some would say on the downlow. >> exactly. >> it's a fascinating analysis. i leave to the facebook posts and the tweeters whether there's any kind of a moral equivalence here. dov levine, thank you for being here, i appreciate it. >> thank you for inviting me. >> keep your tweets coming, more like this, and facebook posts. what do we have? smerconish, you are so carrying putin/trump's water. saying u.s. meddles in elections after their russians -- unbelievable. sandra, listen to me, watch the whole show. okay. don't pick and choose. watch the whole show. and then tell me what you think. i'm carrying trump's water? were you not watching roger waters, the interview i did and the segment that we just broadcast where the most successful and controversial concert tour of the summer season is all predicated, not

all anti-trump diatribe, and now i'm carrying trump's water? give me another one. i'm carrying nobody's water, but my own, which is independent thinking. clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, stuck in the meddle -- i think you mean middle. that is how i feel. clowns to the left of me and jokers to the right. got to keep moving. still to come, your best and worst tweets, please stay with us. ♪ you're gonna have dizziness, nausea, and sweaty eyelids. ♪ ♪ and in certain cases chronic flatulence. ♪ no ♪ sooooo gassy girl. so gassy. if you're boyz ii men, you make anything sound good. it's what you do. if you want to save 15% percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do.

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hey, if you ever miss any of the program, you can catch us any time on cnn go, online and through your connected devices and apps, so thanks for following me as well on facebook and twitter. here's more of what you've been thinking with what i've been broadcasting. smerkonish, the tone of your

right-wing callers shows that russia interference and fake news was effective and is still having an impact. august, it's a really good point that you're making, what was putin presumably seeking to do? throw us off balance. and regardless of whether there was collusion per se, we've been thrown off balance. look at the lack of progress in washington attributable, think to all the attention that this story is taking. hit me with another one. smerkonish, thanks for opening my eyes to yet another artist or group that i will no longer listen to. yes, it bothers me that much. eddytree, you're probably not alone. but have you been paying attention to the content all these years? look i've had my own differences, i was angry when that ping came out and i was at madison square garden and it was talking about habeas corpus, roger waters would say weren't you listening to the lyrics of the song to begin with? one more if we have time for it. smerkonish, great interview with

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