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hello. i'm wolf blitzer. 1:00 p.m. in washington. 8:00 p.m. in raqqa, syria. 2:00 a.m. in seoul, south korea. wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks very much for joining us. we start with a new push from the white house calling it made in america week. like past theme week, the white house looking to change the narrative from the multiple russia story angles to more controllable demoefk and foreign policy issues, but president trump still took time out at least this morning to start tweeting once again. this is what he tweeted. "most politicians would have gone to a meeting like the one don junior attended in order to get info on an opponent. that's politics." go to our senior washington were correspondent joe johns over at the white house right now. joe, do we know anything more about when the president's son may actually speak with congressional investigators? >> reporter: wolf, at the moment sounds like a holding pattern from what we've been able to gather. what we do know is that for the
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senate judiciary committee, a lot of this is about the foreign registration act and who registers as a foreign agent. we did contact today charles grassley, who happens to be the chairman of the judiciary committee who says the most important people are paul manafort, who happens to be the former campaign chairman for donald trump as well as donald trump jr., and to a lesser degree, apparently, jared kushner. let's listen to what he had to say about bringing those people to capitol hill. >> whether it's trump jr. or kushner or even the president of the united states, they seem to want to be very open and transparent about it, and this is a wonderful opportunity for them to be transparent, tell their story. they'll be under oath nap ought to satisfy everybody on the committee that they're getting straight scoop. >> reporter: so either this week
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or next week is what grassley has to say about bringing donald trump jr. and paul manafort to capitol hill. the holdup is apparently paperwork. we're told at least from the manafort team, they haven't received a written invitation as yet. grassley said he and senator dianne feinstein, the ranking democrat, on that committee, working to try to figure out the wording of a subpoena, if necessary, for these two men. wolf? >> stand by for that. meantime, the president also responding to the new job approval numbers just released. a new "washington post" abc news poll pegs the approving number at only 36%. down from 42% in april. what are you hearing? what's the reaction from the white house? >> reporter: well, the reaction fairly mute and as you know, whenever the president tweets about an issue, people here are loathed to try to explain or respond to that. the president tweeted on saturday that he thought just
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below 40% wasn't too bad, and he also talked in that tweet just a little bit about the abc news poll, that indicated among other things what he essentially was saying, more or less, is that the poll that had been taken this week was very wrong during the election. one of the most inaccuratal positives, he said, which we're told is not true. simply because that poll that was taken in the final days of the election did not indicate the right person to win the election, but it was very close in terms of the popular vote. so the president was wrong in his tweet. people here at the white house don't want to respond to what he had to say at least right now, wolf. all right, joe. thanks very much. joe johns over at the white house. let's talk a little bit more about these stories and other developments. here with us, chief political correspondent dana bash, political director david chalian
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and haven't kr cnn politics edi at large. nearly 36%, nearly 40% at this point is okay with president trump. give us perspective. because these numbers are pretty low going back to presidents right after world war ii. at the six-month point. >> right. joe was talking about the portion of the tweet that dealt with the "washington post" abc news poll track record. i think the more important point to fact check is this -- which is that he says it's not bad. no. it's actually bad. it's historically bad. it's the lowest approval rating at this point in a presidency in the modern era of polling and look at that list there, wolf. see it on the screen. there is nobody down at 36%. ford and clinton are the only two that joined trump in having more people disapprove than approve being upside-down, if you will, at this six-month mark in the presidency, but nowhere near the 22 negative, negative
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22-point gap between approval and disapproval at this point. he is actually in a place of his own and it's a bad place. >> a pretty bad place now. 36%. six months in. gerald ford had, what, just pardoned richard nixon. >> a little something that happened right before he became president that might lead people to be suspicious of the president. the trump number, excuse me, the clinton number is -- that 180-day period right in the midst of the travel office kerfuffle. a lot of negative attention there to. the thing about trump, david has written about this, and is important, too'slook at the strong approval versus the strong disapproval. these are the people who aren't, i'm not sure -- the people who really have a very distinct view. the strong disapproval numbers for donald trump are numbers i have not seen for -- a senate candidate, even a house candidate. you have these disapprovals at 58. the high 40s, strong
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disapproval. it's not just a disapproval that people aren't happy with them. they're deeply unhappy. that matters, wolf, those are the people that aren't necessarily going to be easily swayed. say the jobs numbers are better. people locked in to their belief, and on the other hand, the strong approval numbers, yes,does exist. but it's a third, a quarter of the number of people saying they strongly disapprove. that is beyond just that initial approval number. the real problem for him. >> and the russia investigation, they really want the senate intelligence committee, the house intelligence committee, the judiciary committees, they want to hear from the latest players, including donald trump jr. i want you to listen to the ranking, the vice president chairman of the senate intelligence committee. listen to this. >> i would like to hear from all of these individuals whether we'll be able to get the russia nationals to come over and testify is an open question. those people that our committee has jurisdiction over, the
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americans, i sure as heck want to talk to all of them. >> we need to get to the bottom of this and the only way we're going to do it is to talk not just to donald trump jr. who offered to cooperate for which i give him credit, but to everyone who was at that meeting, and who was involved in setting up that meeting's that may be difficult in the case of the russian nationals but we certainly ought to try. we should also ask for all documents. not just the e-mails that have been released, but all the documents that are related to any contacts that president trump's campaign had with the russian government, or its emissaries. >> and the president tweeted dana this morning. you saw the tweet. most politicians would have gone to a meeting like the one don junior attended in order to get info on an opponent. that's politics. >> okay. start will. we've said this every time the president has said it in public or tweeted about it. it is not politics. it is not business as usual to
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accept a meeting and more importantly information from a foreign national, in particular, a foreign adversary to get dirt on your opponent. the m.o. and proposal khat is call the fbi. what his own fbi director nominee said in public, testified under oath before congress for his nomination hearing. so he's trying to kind of create that narrative and that narrative is just not true. okay? let's put that aside. in terms of the investigation, look, they're doing what -- doing their due diligence. of course in congress and also the special council, not doing public interviews so we don't know that this is the case, but they're trying to not just figure out what these e-mails meant. what happened in this meeting. how it was set up. what happened in the run-up to this meeting. how was it that these conversations via e-mail appeared to be, if not second reference, at least certainly
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not a surprise to donald trump jr. so what does it all mean? i do think it's going to be very difficult for them to get the answers from the russian nationals. if they want to cooperate, certainly they can come and they're on their own volition, it's not like they can send a subpoena. >> if donald trump is, is as he said, there's nothing to this. it's a hoax. it's a witch-hunt, he should be, to dana's point, should be 100% in favor of these are the routes by which the smoke is cleared and people say, there really was no fire here. yes, a lot of coincidences, but nothing real here. that's the only way he gets beyond it. instead, he continues to resort to name-calling. dana points out. this is not politics as usual, operation research as usual. doing the opposite of what i think would be good for him to do at the moment. >> let me get david chalian to elaborate on that, because the president and his supporters say, hey what they were doing was opposition research. every, every campaign does
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opposition research. why is this opposition research different? >> because it's coming from a foreign adversary. that's not the normal avenue. you go -- by the way, saying that and at the same tie trying to raise questions about the dnc contractor who was in touch with people at the ukrainian embassy and they are expressing outrage about that. well, why is that according to lir logic, then, not the normal course of business? what's to be outraged about? they're trying to have it all ways around this. as dana stated, it is not -- you've heard itten 0 our air, talk to any republican or democratic operative in this it game of doing opposition research it is not the norm to accept a meeting at campaign headquarters with the most upper echelon people of the campaign with a foreign agent who is doing the bidding of a foreign adversary's government to meddle in the election choosing sides. that -- that is not the norm. >> exactly right. >> they're doing a lot of lawyering up over at the white
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house and in the campaign. let's not forget the president's re-election campaign is already in business. looking ahead to 2020. >> right. they have hired a lawyer, ty cobb, to kind of be the central person to all things legal and all things communications. that's what they should be doing. this is what they should have done. for lots of reasons. one is to get their messaging right. to get their legal story right. but also to protect everybody else in the white house from having to deal with these answers to these questions, because in many cases they genuinely don't know the answers to the question, which is problematic. and they're asked about them. and in other cases it's just -- keeps them from doing their job. this is made in america week. you can ask the questions and there are lots of them about the -- hip wypocrisy because of own businesses not made in america. but being at rally after rally. that is what his voters and supporters want him to do.
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focus on getting jobs back in america. you know, that kind of message that is what they should be focusing on and maybe if they can keep the president's twitter in check, doing things like made in america, having somebody at the white house to focus on the legal issues, they can try to get back on track and raise those -- >> quickly. the re-election campaign, the trump re-election campaign paying legal bills for donald trump jr. and others. spent a lot of money already during these first six months. >> indeed. a benefit of the fact he launched his re-election campaign on inauguration day, doing all the fund-raising. can use it for that. dana's point, made in america and economy. one place in the polls there is a strong card for donald trump to play, more positive than negative is the economy. it makes sense for them to try to steer their way out of this by leaning into their -- >> everybody -- >> what is he tweeting about? not that. >> don junior. >> always the problem. ty cobb, whoever you bring in, donald trump is the president and still has access to his twitter account. >> more to discuss. stick around.
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up next, shifting statements from donald trump jr. over his meeting with a russian lawyer triggered a mountain of questions from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle. up next, speaking with a key member of the senate judiciary committee. and standing by live. needles. essential for him, but maybe not for people with rheumatoid arthritis. because there are options. like an "unjection™". xeljanz xr. a once daily pill for adults with moderate to severe ra for whom methotrexate did not work well. xeljanz xr can reduce pain, swelling and joint damage, even without methotrexate. xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections, lymphoma and other cancers have happened. don't start xeljanz xr if you have an infection.
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the senate health care now facing another delay. the majority leader mitch mcconnell won't call a vote until senator john mccain recovers from surgery for a blood clot. susan collins of maine and rand paul of kentucky say they won't vote for the bill even with mccain's vote. the measure faces a significant uphill battle. to our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta joining us on the phone. sanjay, you know senator mccain's medical history very well. examined his medical records when he ran for president in 2008. give us a sense how serious this latest procedure was. >> wolf, when you read the initial descriptions it didn't sound that serious. you heard about an incision sort of in and around the eyebrow, and removal of a blood clot. what we've learned, though, i think, a statement released an
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incision made around the left eyebrow of senator mccain. you feel the left eyebrow, feel that bone behind there. that bone was actually removed. called a craniotomy. you do that to gain access to the brain. so this blood clot that they call it, five centimeters in size, was located in, or inside or just on top of the brain. that's a pretty significant procedure to expose the brain like that. we heard that he's doing well after the operation. that bone was placed back so, you know, he's -- that bone is now back in the appropriate position in the skull. the big question is, what exactly was that? abnormali abnormality. say a blood clot. was it caused by something else? what they're trying to figurous out in. the pathologist will look at that and try to answer the question. >> how long does that pathological report take? >> this was done friday. i would say sometime within the next couple of days typically
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they would know. as you point out, wolf, when i examined his medical records, people have probably heard, senator mccain has a significant history of melanoma. invasive melanoma located around the left forehead and temple area that's of concern again because of proximity to the area we're talking about now. is this somehow related to that previous melanoma? it's probably why the doctors were even scanning him and why they're being aggressive in removing this. doing this procedure. but there's nothing to suggest that for sure it is melanoma, but that's what they want to rule out, if you will. >> i hope they do. recently senate mccain had trouble with a senate hearing with the fired fbi director james comey. i want to play a quick moment from that hearing. listen. >> that investigation was going on. this investigation was going on. you reached separate conclusions. >> no. that one was done. >> you have to help me out here.
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in other words, we're complete, the investigation of anything that former secretary clinton had to do with the campaign is over and we don't have to worry about it anymore? >> wp ith respect. >> a little confused? >> the senator explained he had been up late and probably an indicator maybe something was wrong? >> you know, pole. wolf, it's tough in this situation to draw a cause and effect. why is somebody having trouble sort of either remembers? that wouldn't typically be caused by an app nobnormality, finding the rights words? not typically from this area, but could cause headaches, difficulty in judgment, that sort of thing. could be he truly was sleep deprived from the night before. tough to draw a cause and effect. i point out the hospital, clearly, said he got this, the
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scan. the scan he got for routine purposes. that means that there wasn't anything that, you know, prompted the senator to go and say, look, i have a problem. done routinely as a follow-up because because of his history of melanoma. >> we all wish him a speedy and complete recovery. i know i speak for you and all our viewers. good luck to senator john mccain. hoping for the very, very best. sanjay, thank very much. i want to bring in our congressional correspondent phil mattingly right now for the political angle from capitol hill. phil, will this extra time buy the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell the chaens nce to get votes needed with procedural motion to get an up or down vote? >> reporter: open question. talk to senate republican aides, on the plus side giving senators an opportunity to bring concerns to leadership. an explicit request over the weekend. don't come out and the become
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that third no vote. the vote that would kill this bill before talking to us. hold your fire, if you will. see what we can work on. that's in some sense, in that way, the delay would help. listen, wolf, to what senator susan collins said over the weekend. a clear no vote but what she had to say about her colleagues struck me as interesting. >> there are about eight to ten republican senators who have serious concerns about this bill, and so at the end of the day, i don't know whether it will pass. >> reporter: wolff,, i asked if that number, eight to ten was accurate. they said, yes, fairly accurate. that means more than just the moderates from medicaid expansion states or individuals concerned be a the spending reductions in medicaid over the course of the next couple decades and more than conservatives concerned it doesn't cut back on regulations enough. unusual suspects here could be very real problems for them and that means there is a lot of work to do, wolf.
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key take away now is they don't have the requisite number of votes with or without senator mccain and need to do a lot of work over the days ahead to try to get them. >> certainly do. phil mattingly thanks very much. bring back our political panel and dana, does the delay in a final vote proposal vote and then a substantive vote help or hurt the republican chance of getting this legislation passed? >> it could go either way. absolutely could go either way. at this point the bill they've revised three times, three and a half times is what it is, and the -- it could. could. give leadership more time to convince as phil said, maybe most importantly the senators from states where medicaid has been expanded and they are loathe to agree to a bill that has cuts for that expansion. to help their constituents get health insurance and others as well. it could help convince them, but more likely than not, more usually than not having covered
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these kinds of debates and pieces of ledgislation for several years now, the more it's out there, the more opponents have time to gin up their opposition to make that opposition known to the senators who are already on the fence. so it's really unclear how it's going to affect it. i think the key thing for the senate republican leadership in white house is get the bill on the floor. once they get it on the floor which is no easy thing. they have to make sure they at least have 50 votes just to proceed, they feel they can we'll and deal. >> and don't forget ow close the republican/democratic margin. 52 republicans, 46 democrats, 46 plus 2 independents. you lose three, it's over. >> in a tough spot. lost two in susan collins and rand paul. that means everyone else has to stay onboard. no easy feat for mitch mcconnell. you know, you were talking with
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phil and susan collins talking about that group of eight to ten senators. there's probably a subset of three or four that will be the toughest nuts to crack for mcconnell at that point to get their yes vote locked in and i don't think they're close to having those folks all locked in yet. >> the difficulty, i think, is that, remember when mcconnell announced, okay. we're going to postpone until after the july 4th recess. votes aren't there. we heard immediately after, well, about eight to ten senators who will be a no. here we are on july 17th -- still eight to ten senators that are no. that's hard. the delay doesn't appear to be convincing anyone. i also think you need to find a way to build at least the perception of momentum. so that some of these members who are on the fence feel as though, okay. i need to be for it, because there are consequences, extra consequences. why? i don't see that right now. right now if you're a no, there's really no active reason for you suddenly to become a
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yes. the bill as dana points out, has been changed a few times. what the bill was prior to july 4th and what it's going to be, it's not fundamentally going to be different. they don't have a secret, like here's the awesome cbo score bill we were just waiting to roll out in the end. somewhere for those reasons -- how do you defend switching from a no to a yes to your constituents or anyone else? when the bill is deeply unpopular, frankly, among the average person? >> when the house bill passed that momentum came from outside groups who initially did not like the bill. they outside groups came on and -- >> okayed for it. >> exactly. that kind of moment doesn't exist right now. >> right. >> they moved the bill a little bit more conservative in the most recent revision of it, and so i don't know where they look for that momentum at this point. >> you need something. >> you don't think, dana, when the congressional budget offices releases presumably this week sometime. >> right. >> supposed to do it today. looks like that's delayed. the new report on the latest
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revised senate republican legislation, that'ses going to have much of an impact? >> unlikely, but it could. it could. >> in favor or against? >> depends what it says. it could be that groups like that are waiting for the cbo score, waiting for another hook to come onboard. that would be kind of ironic, since the conservatives in the white house have been trashing the cbo as not something reliable. >> right this time. >> it wouldn't be the first time we have seen inconsistencies on both sides of the aisle when trying to get, a major piece of legislation through, but remember, you know, the reason i mentioned just getting the bill on the floor and starting debate is important, ba you there are other ideas out there. last week we reported on an idea senator lindy graham and bill cassidy were working on. which is a fundamentally different bill which would block grant money to the states. they're working on getting the republican governors onboard. and those would be game-changing endorsement of a different kind of measure. it's unclear if even that would work, but they need to start to get the ball rolling.
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>> david, how involved in the president trying to get final votes needed? 36% jobs approval number, not encouraging to those on the fence. >> we know he's made some phone calls. even when he was traveling to paris recently. we know he was on the phone. but notice, it's not the president that is going to talk to the governors as dana said. that are game-changing. noted president going up to the hill to be in the room. that's vice president mike pence taking the lead for the administration along with the health and human services sent and administrator for medicare, medicaid, seema verma. these have been the point people to really try to make the case. sometimes as we learned in providence this weekend with the national governors association meeting it doesn't go well for the administration and they set themselves back up a few paces. >> david is exactly right. the problem is, the case here politically speaking is relatively weak. at the moment. the bill is unpopular. now, do people know every detail in it? absolutely not. same with they didn't know every
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detail of the affordable care act. they've decided we don't necessarily want this replaced. we may not love what we have but it's what we have. if you're in maine or alaska or even ohio, i'm not -- i can't come up with a compelling case today why you need to be for this. usually that is -- motivated by fear, either fear of the voter or fear of the president. they're not afraid the of voter. voter doesn't necessarily want this. not afraid of president, he's at 36% approval. >> not necessarily all that good. chris cillizza, thanks, david chalian, dana bash. appreciate it. coming up, new word the senate judiciary committee may delay its hearing scheduled for wednesday until next week. all in a bid to hear from former trump campaign chairman paul manafort. reaction from a member of that committee. stand by. ahh. where are mom and dad? 'saved money on motorcycle insurance with geico! goin' up the country. love mom and dad' i'm takin' a nap.
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it's a new kind of network. xfinity mobile. after last week's dramatic revelations about a meeting between a russian lawyer, president trump's son-in-law and former campaign chairman, many lawmakers are demanding answers. the senate judiciary committee wants to hear from donald trump jr. and paul manafort, former trump campaign chairman. also learning the judiciary committee may delay a hearing planned for this week to hear from monanafort until maybe nex week. joined by a key member of that committee, mazy has rona e i hy. thanks for joining us. >> good to be back, wolf. >> as far as you know, has either president trump's son,
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donald trump jr. or paul manafort formally agreed to testify before your committee? >> i know that both of them i believe have said they'll make themselves available. so i am very hopeful that chuck grassley, our chair, and our ranking member feinstein will pursue it, and we do want to get to these people as well as jared kushner. >> what specific questions, the most important ones, that you want to ask these two? >> basically, surrounding the meetings they had, and why it took so long to disclose that and why they had the meeting, all that. important pointed questions asked of all of these witnesses to get to the bottom of any of the trump relationships and discussions with russian people. >> does your committee already
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have access to donald trump jr.'s e-mails? >> i'm not sure. i personally don't have them. so the chairman -- i don't know. one of the reason as a member of the committee i certainly want to question donald junior and paul manafort. >> if he doesn't willingly testify, do you think donald trump jr. should be subpoenaed by your committee? >> i think the subpoena powers will definitely be utilized by mr. mueller. one way or the other, these people are probably going to be testifying under oath. either willingly or under subpoena. >> talk a little about health care. the republican legislation that could be coming up for a vote. your battle with the senate bill has become a personal one. in may you were diagnosed with what? stage 4 kidney cancer.
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>> yes. >> first of all, senator, how are you doing? >> i'm good. my second surgery was to remove a portion of my ribs. so i now have a metal plate. that's part of my rib. so -- this is very much the case we're all one diagnosis away from a major illness, and, of course, i join all of my colleagues and everyone else in wishing senator mccain a speedy recovery. but health care is personal. it's very critical for all of us, which is why the more time that is spent looking at what the senate version of the health care bill is would be good for everybody, and i can tell you right now that this still remains a mean, ugly bill. that's going to -- especially were the the cruz amendment. i don't consider that an improvement at all but a give to cruz so that mcconnell could get his vote, bha but what that amet does, create an unworkable insurance system, where you have
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one group of people with insurance for people who aren't going to be very sick, and then there's a whole other group who will be sick people. so the insurance sindustry said this is not workable. you are heard senator susan collins, republican from maine say could be eight or ten other republicans who have serious problems with the current senate bill. >> yes. >> i know you speak privately with your republican colleagues. what do you hear from them? >> well, mainly i get my news from watching you guys on tv. and you know, a lot of the dynamics is going on, on the republican side, because mitch mcconnell needs every single vote in order to get this thing even procedurally on the floor. meanwhile, the democrats have certainly not been sitting idly by. this is a very dangerous bill that is going to hurt especially the poorest, sickest and oldest among our, in our communities, and so we have been reaching out.
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i have been reaching out to all of these groups in my home community in hawaii, and finding out from that what going to happen if this senate version goes through. and the fact of the matter is, that if you're young and healthy and you go for the cruz version of what we would call a junk bill, 0 are if you're, have a pre-existing condition and have to pay a heck of a lot more with high deductibles, i mean, basically everybody will be screwed. that's how i see this senate bill. >> senator, senator hirono, we wish you a complete and speedy recovery from your battle with cancer as well. as we said before. >> senator mccain is going through -- he's going through this recovery right now from his surgery. we wish him a speedy recovery at the same time. senator hirono thanks for joining us. >> thank you. mahaulo. >> a look through the eyes of isis wives and mothers members of the terror group. are they willing supporters or
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syrian officials are trying to figure out what to do with the mothersish the wives, the girlfriend of isis fighters. were they willing supporters the horrors the terrorists inflicted or innocent victims drawn in by false promises? there have been roundups as they've been rounded up as isis sympathizers but haven't been charged with anything in what is essentially a completely lawless area. cnn's nick payton walling spoke with several held in a refugee camp and xoinjoins us now.
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>> reporter: it's rare isis ever let's us see their places unless at a time and place of their choosing even more so when it came down to the women kept often indoors out sight. we had a rare opportunity to talk to some women who left isis controlled areas what it was like inside the caliphate. don't kid yourself. they saw the videos. girls, mothers, some who married into isis knew what they were about but still came. now jailed in a refugee camp, stuck in limbo as isis collapses trying to go home they want your pity and that you believe them when they say, it was all, all of it, a mooch mistake. >> they use women for sex. >> yeah. it's very disgusting. >> reporter: three indonesian sisters paid thousands to get here lured with a promise of free health care and schools and ended up selling off their jewelries and paying thousands to get smuggled out. it wasn't the caliphate they expected. >> they wanted to jihad for sake
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of allah, but what they want is only what women, they want sex. oh, it's -- disgusting. >> i heard that, if you marry, your daughter off, get thousands of dollars. >> reporter: single arrivals like that kept in a commune waiting for husbands. >> the men and women inside the dorm is very different. very far from islam. harsh men, shout at each other. fighting. and -- fighting -- between the woman and -- oh. i was very surprised when i see that. >> reporter: she explains the dorm is a bit like tinder. >> translator: when the woman arrives in this dormitory she makes a sort of cv. but down her age, name, how her personality is like what he slooks like in a man. men also post their cvs
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. >> translator: yes, the dating. you meet, talk 15, 20 minutes and then it's a yes or no. if they both agree then they get married. it's very quick. >> reporter: she says she came for charity work but her husband was killed the second time they tried to flee. she's as appalled by the paris terror attacks as the coalition bombing of raqqa and just wants to go back to france. >> translator: i love life. i love to work. i love my jeans. i love my makeup. i love my parents. the only thing i want is to go back. i'm not far from the beach. i used to go to the beach every weekend in a bikini. yes! in a bikini. >> reporter: a syrian english teacher, whose first husband was killed by a sniper in holmes and says she was traveling to turkey when she was waylaid in raqqa where she met and married a moroccan. belar. >> were you looking for a man when you went to raqqa? >> no. >> reporter: how come you found one?
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moved into a house. who's this guy next store? >> i think god accepted him to me. >> he says this spokesman knew belar and allowed him not to fight. he's now in jail. she is disapproving of less pure love stories. >> did you hear other stories of women who came looking for husbands. >> look to european men that are here and isis, they are strong men. you know? with guns. and they can protect them. it's -- an idea that's just like movies. many of them want -- very shocked. because when they got married to a man, three, four days. one month and they, divorced. i know a woman married six times and after three days, she go to court and ask the judge to divorce her from him. and when the judge ask her why you want divorce? and that meant, say that she prevent him from making any, you know -- sexual, you know -- >> i see. >> and she said, i can't accept
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him. all the time thinking of my dying husband. and the judge ask her, why you get married from him if you don't want him? he say i will send you to the prison, because you -- she was crying, oh, no. it's the last time. i promise. >> reporter: her husband was once arrested for smoking by the religious police and because they won't talk to women she had to literally enter a man's world to get him out of jail. >> and you know what i do? it was crazy idea. i just put my husband clothes. his shoes and his, you know, that -- covered my eyes. but, with that black -- glasses, and put -- a gown from my neighbor. take it from there and take my boy, let's go to the police. >> reporter: do your man voice now. [ speaking in deep voice ] >> yes, yes, yes, of course. >> that's how men soud. >> reporter: the stories decide their fate whether they stay in
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limbo or go home. >> i think that you don't believe me. you don't? you know? speaks a language more than mouth. eyes. don't you feel there's a trust in my eyes? >> yes. what if you never see him again? >> i want someone to kill him, because i can't kill myself. it's suicide and i can't commit suicide. just kill me. >> reporter: a group of women who frankly had a positive idea of about the caliphate before they went there, and startling to realize they are in fact trapped in limbo. with the fighters who are kicking -- who pretty much adopt want to see them come home again in a hurry. wolf? >> nick paton walsh, excellent reporting. coming up. overtures, as seoul proposes military talks. we have new information. details when we come back.
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811 is available to any business our or homeownerfe. to make sure that you identify where your utilities are if you are gonna do any kind of excavation no matter how small or large before you dig, call 811. keep yourself safe. south korea is proposing military talks with north korea in the hopes of ending what seoul calls hostile acts between
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the two countries and escalating military tension. so far there's been no reply from pyongyang. cnn's david mckenzie has the latest from seoul. david? >> wolf, the talks proposed is certainly a move to try to ease tensions. they're proposing military-to-military talks to happen as soon as friday, as well as red cross talks to discuss the reunion of people split up by the korean war. now, this is definitely seen as a gamble bien of the president in south korea. he's staked his reputation on trying to ease tension with the north. this despite the fact of that recent missile test by pyongyang, and the trump administration pushing towards further sanctions against kim jong-un's regime. but through hope here in south korea among the people that perhaps this is a small window towards some kind of normalcy,
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