tv New Day CNN July 25, 2017 2:57am-4:00am PDT
2:57 am
attorney general and criticism after the president's politically charged speech to the boy scouts. another tuesday in july, folks. "new day" starts right now. see you tomorrow. any senator who votes against starting debate is telling america you are fine with the obamacare nightmare. >> showdown vote scheduled on whether to begin debate on repealing obamacare. >> we are spending most of our time fighting this awful health care bill. >> having john mccain come back for this vote is a huge, huge break for mitch mcconnell. >> president trump and his aides have been discussing possibly removing jeff sessions. >> we could use some more loyalty, i will tell you that. >> what's really disturbing here is that he's really torturing him. >> president trump's trying to interfere with the independence of the attorney general. that's absolutely wrong and should not be tolerated. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. we want to welcome our
2:58 am
viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day." it is tuesday, july 25th, 6:00 here in new york. here's our starting line -- up first, a crucial vote today in the senate to begin debating a repeal. obamacare. senator john mccain, who was recently diagnosed with brain cancer, will head back to washington to cast what could be a deciding vote. next, president trump's public feud with jeff sessions intensifies. the "washington post" reports that the president and his advisers are discussing the possibility of replacing sessions who mr. trump called beleaguered. house investigators are set to meet with jared kushner today after he denied any collusion with russia in meetings with the senate investigators monday. as the house is going to get together today for a vote on tough sanctions bills against russia. the question is -- will president trump sign that measure into law even though it limits his influence? and the president is vowing to steer clear of politics when
2:59 am
he gave this boy scouts speech last night. i'm laughing because he did not steer clear of politics. he gave them an earful. the president's speech was filled with attacks on his predecessor, his onetime rival. and of course the media. remember, he was talking to the boy scouts. cnn has it all covered. let's begin with cnn national correspondent suzanne malveaux live on capitol hill. suzanne? >> reporter: good morning, chris. well, this is an extraordinary effort. senator john mccain is going to be boarding a plane later this morning. he's going to head back to washington to participate in that critical health care vote despite his brain cancer diagnosis less than a week ago. now his presence is meant to bolster the republican leadership's effort to get one step closer to passage. but it's far from certain whether or not it's going to be enough. senator john mccain's unexpected return to washington
3:00 am
adding last-minute moment up on the republicans push to dismantle obamacare. >> a lot of us have literally waited eight years for this moment to finally arrive and at long last it has. >> reporter: the senate will vote today to begin debating the health care bill that narrowly passed the house in may. if mcconnell secures the 50 votes needed to proceed the senate will begin amendments to that legislation, although it's unclear what changes would be put forth, and how the republican party would come to an agreement after being unable to do so thus far. >> it's kind of hard to make a determination if you don't know what you're proceeding to. >> reporter: president trump ratcheting up the pressure using the bully pulpit to warn fellow americans to get on board or risk paying a price. >> remember repeal and replace. repeal and replace. they kept saying it over and over again. any senator who votes against starting debate is telling america that you are fine with the obamacare nightmare. >> reporter: the senate majority
3:01 am
leader can only afford to lose the support of two republicans, even with mccain's expected yes vote. senator susan collins of maine has already said she remains a firm no, and several others remain undecided. >> i can't say right now. i'm still very much no. >> reporter: president trump needling his health secretary about securing the vote at a boy scouts event in west virginia on monday night. >> you're going to get the votes? >> hope so. >> he better get them. he better get them. oh, he better, oat wise i'll say tom, "you're fired." >> reporter: the president insisting this event wasn't the place for political rhetoric. >> who the hell wants to speak about politics when i'm in front of the boy scouts, right? >> reporter: before launching into one attack after another, blasting his predecessor. >> did president obama ever come to a jamboree? >> reporter: and his former rival hillary clinton, again,
3:02 am
boast being his election win. >> that map was so red, it was unbelievable, and they didn't know what to say. we have a tremendous disadvantage in the electoral college, popular vote is much easier. >> reporter: and rehashing his favorite campaign lines. >> we ought to change it from the word swamp to the word cesspool or perhaps to the word sewer. >> reporter: so here's how the health care vote is going to play out today. republican senator also meet behind closed doors for their weekly lunch, that's where rank and file members will push, make their final pitch to move this forward, then it's expected to have a procedural vote later in the afternoon that, will determine whether or not republicans effort to overturn obamacare lives or dies. alisyn, chris? >> thanks so much. let's bring our panel, david gregory, cnn politics reporter and editor at large clils slhri cillizza and john avalon.
3:03 am
john, it was senator bob corker of tennessee who says they're ente entering a wild west phase on the health care vote. they have a series of votes and who knows what happens next? >> yes, that's a pretty cool way to describe total chaos. this is pretty unprecedented. here we are talking a major bill, a seven-year priority and yet republicans today are embracing and advancing the idea they criticized rightly nancy pelosi for. you have to vote on the bill to know what's in it. no one is sure exactly what's going to be put forward today other than do the repeal not replace first and then let's see how many amendments we can tack on the donkey. >> david, what do you make in terms of the situation of the urgency done when you don't know what they are? >> it's interesting the specter of the president shaming his party. this is really, you see all the divisions in the republican party in the way that trump
3:04 am
campaigned on them, in 2016, to say you have establishment republicans who can't get this one thing done, and yet it's the president who is not really driving this policy with a set of ideas that the senate is coalescing around. this is the senate doing its own thing, trying to depart from what the house did, and realizing how unpopular this is politically in trying to pick off various members. i mean, the math is really tough, even to begin debate, to begin debate, let alone to find a path that you're going to pick up the key folks, like a capital in west virginia and murkowski in alaska, a mike lee and a ted cruz. it's not clear where we're going. you have a president standing by saying i'm going to campaign against all of you if you can't get this done, very much separating himself from the party at this point. >> sue sap collins already said at the moment she is ano. here is our list of key senators
3:05 am
to watch today and how they vote. what are you keeping an eye on? >> david's right. the math is still really tough, so basically collins is a hard no, so now and mccain is coming back, which to be honest 24 hours ago i would say probably wouldn't happen, so this is clearly they're hoping giving them momentum. i think it is hard to say to john mccain come back from arizona given what he's fighting to be the 48th vote to begin debate on this. you know, my guess is they were able to say you'd be the 50th vote, but that means, all those people that you just showed, alisyn, including lisa murkowski, including rob portman of ohio, undecided, they need all those folks. rand paul has been back and forth basically saying i'll vote for the motion to proceed, which all they're doing is voting for a motion to start debate that he do that if he got a clean repeal vote, so he's maybe too leaning,
3:06 am
yes. the math is still really hard. the thing that i keep coming back to is i cannot imagine mitch mcconnell or john cornyn went to john mccain and said come back here in the midst of we're less than a week removed from learning that john mccain had brain cancer, come back to d.c. for a procedural vote in which you will be the 48th vote to proceed to debate and we're not sure about 49 and 50. maybe that's what they did, and john mccain is just coming because he wants to be here for it, but typically the read-out would be he's coming because they believe that he is that 50th vote, that they can at least get this thing to a debate. once you go beyond that, as john points out, i mean, we have no idea where it goes. they're just trying to get over that hurdle of starting a debate. >> they're trying to get a win and really conceptually, sta starting debate wouldn't be a bad thing seeing as there has been none.
3:07 am
the mccain ploy obvious they're going to be a willis reed moment. mccain is a minted warrior, that's what he is. his sense of duty is incomparable. him coming back makes perfect sense. the idea of what they're going to accomplish, though, is where you may be cheapening that currency of john mccain. you're bringing him back just to check a box and get a win when you really don't have any plan b. >> well it's a pretty big win and eight as big a moment as it gets in the votes. in the obamacare vote senators sick like a dog, harry reid was rolled in to vote. every vote counts but john mccain is a warrior and this has been a longstanding priority of his and vote counts aside i think it is about momentum, it's commitment to conseesk a conservative agenda. the problem is we don't know what agenda they'll put forward that affects millions and millions and millions of people. >> david, the president went to this big boy scouts jamboree last night and he gave a big speech in front of them.
3:08 am
it was sort of part campaign rally, part boy scout messaging, sort of. "the washington post" pointed out that the boy scouts mission is to be courteous and kind, sometimes this deviated from perhaps that message, so let's play a clip for you. >> you want to achieve your dreams -- i said who the hell wants to speak about with politics when you speak to the boy scout. as the scout law says a scout is trustworthy, loyal, we could use some more loyalty, i will tell you that. did president obama ever come to a jamboree? do you remember that incredible night with the maps, and the republicans are red, and the democrats are blue, and that map was so red, it was unbelievable. >> david gregory, your thoughts? >> it's just so -- the tour
3:09 am
de force going through the states on the map, nobody thought we could win michigan, and we're winning michigan. it's striking in a couple of things. first of all, the not so subtle dig there at the attorney general, jeff sessions, who apparently was an eagle scout and was not invited to this despite other cabinet members who were scouts who were there like rick perry and rex tillerson apparently. >> rick perry, who he asked if you have the votes and rick perry nods yes. >> i'm good, we got 'em for you. you're in front of all these boy scouts and talking about this great victory that we had in the electoral map. these kids were not voting in the election. so it was striking, but i thought that the barb at sessions was really revealing, taken says something. here we are on a day when the president is trying to get health care, a piece of legislation that he has not
3:10 am
driven. he has just been really working from the outside now against republicans and he is sabotaging himself with his obsession around loyalty and in taking on the russia investigation to the point that's peers to be humiliating jeff sessions his attorney general publicly in an effort to force him out, despite perhaps thinking of all the complications that creates if he ultimately achieves that goal of either firing him or getting him to resign. >> and the contradiction. so he plays on loyalty. he's not talking about scout loyalty. he's talking about what's been happening with him and his political people around him, trustworthy, loyal, but what about helpful? friendly? courteous? kind? obedient? thrifty? forget about that in government. brave, clean and reverent. lot of ideals. >> for going off message he got a lot of enthusiasm and applause. >> he's the president of the united states. of course he's going to get
3:11 am
applause. john, forget about the fact "who the hell would want to talk about politics when you're at the boy scouts." you would. you'll talk about politics a anywhere especially if it involves bashing others. >> on one hand what i thought was troubling i mentione ining obama's name boos. washington should try a little harder to live up to those ideals. the tone comes from the top and courteous and kind have been missing from the building, and that's something i think for all folks to reflect on. that speech, it was a political rally at a place he said he didn't want to be political but trump has a magnetic inability to not bring everything back to himself. the idea self-transcendence is lost. president trump intensifying his criticism not just of hillary clinton but of his own staff, attorney general jeff sessions. he used the word "beleaguered"
3:12 am
but remember the reason session is beleaguered is because of what the president said about him. "the washington post" is reporting the president is weighing his options to replace sessions. there's no shortage of leaks on that front either. joe johns live at the white house with more. the word is that rudy giuliani brushed aside the thought of being attorney general but he did think early on he was the perfect man for that job. >> reporter: that's right, and he actually gave sessions just a bit of a vote of confidence, if you will, chris. look, the attorney general we're told was here just yesterday meeting with the white house counsel, but we're also told he and the president did not meet, and have not spoken since that remarkable rebuke in the interview with the "new york times" just last week, the new communications director would not answer when asked whether sessions ought to resign, but he did say the two men need to sit down and talk about what the future looks like.
3:13 am
>> mr. president, should jeff sessions resign? >> reporter: torn general jeff sessions' future in question with "the washington post" reporting that president trump and his advisers are discussing the possibility of replacing him, despite the fact that he has been one of the president's most loyal supporters. >> we could use some more loyalty, i will tell you that. >> reporter: the president publicly shamed his top law enforcement officer again monday labeling hims abeleaguered and asking why he's not investigating hillary clinton. the dizzying escalation began last week in the president's interview with the "new york times." >> sessions should have never recused himself, and if he was going to recuse himself, he should have told me before he took the job and i would have picked somebody else. >> reporter: despite this public rebuke, sessions insisted he has no plans to step down. >> we love this job. we love this department, and i
3:14 am
plan to continue to do so as long as that is appropriate. >> reporter: texas senator ted cruz and former new york mayor rudy giuliani dismissing reports they are being considered as possible replacements, with giuliani expressing support for sessions' decision to recuse himself from the russia investigation. >> i believe that sessions made the right decision under the rules of the justice department. >> reporter: president trump lashing out against his attorney general, who he blames for the russia investigation. it comes on the same day his son-in-law and senior adviser jared kushner met with congressional investigators for the first time, denying any collusion with russia, and defending the president. >> donald trump had a better message and ran a smarter campaign, and that is why he won. suggesting other wisz ridicules those who voted for him. >> reporter: the president tweeted just a few minutes ago once again calling out the attorney general, and once
3:15 am
again, talking about the president's perceived desire or need for an investigation of hillary clinton. jared kushner is back on capitol hill today, answering more questions. the president is expected to at least give reporters an opportunity to ask him questions, when he appears with the lebanese prime minister in the rose garden later today. chris and alisyn, back to you. >> thank you very much for all of that. so given the president's latest attacks, is he considering firing attorney general jeff sessions? what would that mean for the russia investigation? our panel tackles all that next. time's up, insufficient we're on prenatal care.es. and administrative paperwork... your days of drowning people are numbered. same goes for you,
3:16 am
budget overruns. and rising costs, wipe that smile off your face. we're coming for you, too. for those who won't rest until the world is healthier, neither will we. optum. how well gets done. swhen it comes to molding young minds, nobody does it better. she also builds her own fighting robots. destroy. but when it comes to mortgages, she's less confident.
3:17 am
fortunately for sarah, there's rocket mortgage by quicken loans. it's simple, so she can understand the details and be sure she's getting the right mortgage. apply simply. understand fully. mortgage confidently. going somewhere? whoooo. here's some advice. tripadvisor now searches more than 200 booking sites to find the hotel you want and save you up to 30%. trust this bird's words. tripadvisor. casper's truly changed our lives. ♪ i'm a softer, happier, friendlier version of myself. (surps drink) casper is like sleeping on a nest woven from a unicorn mane. ♪ (grunts) a mattress of unparalleled value. best bed ever. ♪ love it, love it, love it.
3:18 am
perfect sleep changes people. (yawn) (kisses baby) (baby coos) transforming your life is as easy as trying casper. transforming your life is as easy as trying casper. aaah! ♪ order their mattress online and test it out for 100 nights. if you don't love it, they'll pick it up and give you your money back. ♪ get great sleep at casper.com ♪ my hygi...a mouthwash.o try... so i tried crest. it does so much more than give me fresh breath. crest pro-health mouthwash provides all... ...of these benefits to help you get better dental check-ups. go pro with crest mouthwash. checkup? nailed it
3:19 am
mr. president, should jeff sessions resign? [ laughter ] >> president trump will, taking a photo with the interns, the white house interns, he would then tell the media to be quiet and he would then turn and tell the interns, "you see, they're not supposed to be asking questions right now but they did anyway." >> the i would roll is hard to interpret, he's maybe rolling his eyes at the media, not at the outcome of jeff sessions. >> true but both interpretations would be accurate. we would roll his eyes at the media for sure and also roll eyes at the thought of jeff
3:20 am
sessions leaving office, why? because "the washington post" is reporting what's pretty obvious. the president is looking for a replacement for jeff sessions. you just don't treat a sitting attorney general the way the president is, if you want him to stay. and just moments ago the president tweeted out of nowhere "attorney general jeff sessions has taken a very weak position on hillary clinton crimes." interesting word for a president to use. "where are emails and dnc server and intel leakers?" let's bring back the panel, david gregory, chris cillizza and john avalon. david gregory, what do you make of the posturing towards the attorney general by our president? >> well, look, it's no longer shocking, given this president and what he's done and what his views are. i think the only conclusion is that this president wants to shame jeff sessions into resigning. he has no regard for the
3:21 am
independence of the department of justice or the rule of law. everyone was outraged when he fired the fbi director investigating him jim comey, rig rightfully so, by the way but i don't think there's any reason to believe that trump will stop. i think he'll fire his attorney general. i think he may make a move on the special counsel and he'll take all comers, because he doesn't seem to care about democratic processes or institutions and certainly thinks the investigation about russia is a loyalty test, and not something to be investigated thoroughly, and that the presidency should be protected and that our electoral system should be protected. if you play this out, if he wants to sack sessions, what's going to happen? rod rosenstein is the deputy, he probably resigns or gets fired. does the president think that he's going to get some loyalist to him confirmed by the united states senate? i mean, that is crazy. i think republicans might on this one finally balk a little bit, given how popular sessions
3:22 am
is among conservatives and indeed among the kind of, you know, nativist right that counts as a big part of trump nation. >> go ahead, john. >> the president just tweeting moments ago, calling his attorney general weak, that's the narrative he's trying to send, beleaguered was yesterday. this is an attempt to force him out and attack him the way he did his opponents an the campaign trail and also resurgence of another campaign trail riff "lock her up" and attempt we're going to investigate hillary clinton, prosecute her. that's the hangs fence for jeff sessions but the largest case -- >> we heard it yesterday with sean duffy a favorite surrogate out of the. the. out of nowhere he started talking about if you want to know what russia did, to get to the bottom of it, you need the dnc server, that's the beginning of the trail. chris, give the audience background on that in terms of what we understand about those servers and why that statement makes or doesn't make sense. >> donald trump has been fixated
3:23 am
on and it is somewhat out there, hillary clinton -- more than half of the emails that were on her private server she deleted before they ever made it to any closer inspection, based on her lawyers going through them, not one by one but broadly speaking and saying this is personal. they made that call, no one else did. there's debate whether they can be recovered or not so he is fixated on it. the it, nc resisted turning over its server to the fbi in the wake of the hacking and the wikileaks investigation, so these two things have become big causes on the conservative right. the issue is donald trump won. in no small part i think because of conversations about the email server, the poor ways in which hillary clinton handled it. you know, donald trump is doing this thing that he did in the business world, too. he doesn't -- for all of his
3:24 am
"you're fired" you know, bravado, he doesn't actually love firing people. yes, he did get rid of jim comey but outside of comey, you have sean spicer who he basically asked to say even though he appointed scaramucci to the communications director job and you have mike flynn who he fired because he lied to, he, mike flynn lied to mike pence but trump repeatedly said i wish we hadn't fired him. he doesn't like to fire people. what he's doing here is making it so uncomfortable for jeff sessions that he hopes jeff sessions resigns. you shouldn't -- chris, sorry, i'll is ai this quickly. chris, you shouldn't treat your attorney general like this. you shouldn't treat anyone like this. if you have an issue with someone you should deal with it privately and say you either have to go or stay or change this conversation. not just attack him to the point where you force him out. this is bullying. >> look, he's trying to back channel the saturday night
3:25 am
massacre, that's what's happening. if sessions resigns, then you appoint someone else who then assumes power. >> that's right. >> and says the special counsel thing is really a terrible distraction and as chris said, you know, i'm going to be in a position to investigate more effectively because i'm not directly connected with the campaign, depending on who it is. and that's the larger game here. it's also about repeated attempts, you know, he goes after the independent journalists, and independent judiciary consistently, because those are forces that can constrain and hold presidential power accountable and that's why this all demand our attention and the hillary clinton stuff is simply because the only thing that unites his coalition right now seems to be hatred of hillary clinton. it's a golden oldies. >> he knows it. donald trump the biggest mistake his adversaries make is questioning the intelligence of the president. it's a mistake. he knows exactly what he's doing. he's very savvy and good at
3:26 am
manipulating narrative. his latest tweet, probably watching the morning shows not liking what he's hearing and engineering what he believes to be the truth. the problem is the acting head of the fbi, this is the president, good, there is the tweet and the person in charge of the hillary investigation andrew mccabe got $700,000 from h. hillary for his wife. >> chris, just real quickly, contextually, he's made this claim before. he's talking about half a million dollar donation from terry mcauliffe, the governor of virginia's political organization to a virginia state senate candidate andrew mccabe's wife, who ran in 2015. >> so they set it up really far in advance. >> it's not from hillary clinton, just by way of context. yes, terry mcauliffe and the clintons are clearly aligned. no one would question that, but it's not from her. this is one of those things where he sort of aligns a series of facts and tries to make it
3:27 am
true by saying it over and over again, and it just, that doesn't make it true. >> can we just keep our eye on republicans here? this is what is really interesting. here the president is essentially ripping members of his own party on health care saying they're a fraud. they said they were going to repeal and replace obama care, they haven't done it, they have a chance when he's not driving that. on the day of the vote he's out there further humiliating his ag. trump is sabotaging himself or to your point, chris, maybe looking at it differently. he is allowing himself to be completely consumed by this. maybe he wants to run on the russia investigation for re-election. honestly, maybe he thinks i'll just keep fighting this big fight because that's all he seems to be able to do, using all that capital for that purpose. >> gentlemen, thank you very much for the perspective on all of this obviously. it will be a very big day and week. >> we do. you know why, because this vote matters. even though it's just procedural and to open up debate which wouldn't be a bad thing, it's nice when our lawmakers talk
3:28 am
about what they want to do to the lives of the rest of us but we have a lot of players for you, key members of congress, not just about what's going to happen with health care, but also surrounding jeff sessions. you have a lot of experience on that screen with these types of maneuvers, so we'll be talking to all of them this morning and get their take. a major win for the trump white house. the big decision in court that is boosting the president's controversial voter integrity commission. we'll tell you about it next. day 13. if only this were as easy as saving $600 when you switch to progressive. winds stirring. too treacherous for a selfie. [ camera shutter clicks ] sure, i've taken discounts to new heights with safe driver and paperless billing. but the prize at the top is worth every last breath.
3:29 am
here we go. [ grunts ] got 'em. ahh. wait a minute. whole wheat waffles? [ crying ] why! wait a minute. whole wheat waffles? the ford summer sales event is in full swing. they are not listening to me. watch this. who wants ice creeaaaaaam!? so that's how you get them to listen. take on summer right with ford, america's best-selling brand. now with summer's hottest offer. get zero percent for seventy-two months plus an additional thousand on top of your trade-in. during the ford summer sales event get zero percent for seventy-two months plus an additional thousand on top of your trade-in. offer ends soon.
3:30 am
3:32 am
fomy doctor recommended ibgard. abdominal pain and bloating. now i'm in control of my ibs. nonprescription ibgard- calms the angry gut. a major victory for president trump's voter fraud commission. federal judge in d.c. ruling in favor of the administration's effort to collect voter data. the judge denying claims that the commission's request for state voter data violates constitutionally protected privacy right. separate lawsuit alleging the commission was set up to discriminate against black and
3:33 am
latino voters is pending in new york. cooler air relieving the northeast of steamy weather as the west faces threats of severe flooding. cnn meteorologist jennifer gray has the forecast. what do you see, my friend? >> well, let's start with the good news and that's the northeast. the temperatures feeling very, very nice. by the way this weather report is brought to you by pew rurinp your pet, our passion. new york city will be at 72. 77 on wednesday, 79 on thursday. temperatures feeling nice up and down new england. few showers out there but overall temperature also feel good, get the showers out of the way. it will be very nice. meanwhile we'll stay hot across the center part of the country as well as stormsz in t in the midwest. 95 in little rock, upper 90s across much of texas, the monsoonal moisture still there, alisyn, a lot of major flooding happening around the four corners. >> thanks so much for keeping an eye on it for us. president trump stepping up
3:34 am
atacks on attorney general jeff sessions, one tweet after this morning, but why would the president fire one of his most loyal allies? could the real target be special counsel robert mueller? we break down how that works next. (vo) pro plan bright mind adult 7+ promotes alertness and mental sharpness in dogs 7 and older. (ray) the difference has been incredible. she is much more aware. she wants to learn things. (vo) purina pro plan bright mind. nutrition that performs. you're not taking these. hey, hey, hey! you're not taking those. whoa, whoa! you're not taking that. come with me. you're not taking that. you're not taking that. you're not taking that. mom, i'm taking the subaru. don't be late. even when we're not there to keep them safe, our subaru outback will be.
3:35 am
(vo) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. there's nothing more important so when i need to book a hotel, i want someone who makes it easy. booking.com gets it. and with their price match, i know i'm getting the best price every time. visit booking.com. booking.yeah! when heartburn hits fight back fast with new tums chewy bites. fast relief in every bite. crunchy outside. chewy inside. tum tum tum tum new tums chewy bites.
3:36 am
yes, 9 o'clock works for me. bye. another referral. our customers love us. (nail gun firing) (glass egg shattering) when the unexpected strikes... don't worry we've got you covered. the hartford strikes back. ♪ backpack, check. that's the family taking care of business. awesome notebook! check. but who takes care of them? office depot / office max. this week, these composition books are just 25 cents each. ♪ taking care of business
3:38 am
president trump intensifying his attacks on everyone, but specifically his top law enforcement officer, after calling jeff sessions the attorney general of the united states "beleaguered." the president tweeting the a.g. has taken a weak position on hillary clinton crimes. where are emails and dnc server and intel leakers? he then went on to attack the acting held of the fbi, suggesting that he had been paid off by hillary clinton. joining me now is ken cuccinelli, former virginia attorney general and president of the senate conservatives fund. ken, have you ever heard of
3:39 am
anything like this from anybody in any position of leadership, let alone a president of the united states? >> well, i suppose so, but -- >> give me an example, ken. >> never in any -- >> who do you remember doing anything like this? >> i was just going to say, i was just going to say nothing like anything beyond a small little business. >> right. >> you know, and it certainly is phenomenally distracting even to just jeff sessions doing the job of the department of justice. as he said he's going to keep doing his job, keep showing up and that's what i would do if i were him. >> how? >> that's what i expect he'll do. >> how, though, can en? >> it detracts from the broader agenda of the president. this doesn't stop anything they're doing in the department. >> how does it not stop everything? if you had the president of the united states calling you out, consistently, not meeting with you, how do you focus on
3:40 am
anything about other than whether or not you need to leave? >> well, because you're a professional, and look, remember the night that comey was fired, i remember sitting on panels, and listening to everybody say oh, there will be no more russian investigation. it's all going to come to a stop p blah, blah, that's not right. all the professionals the fbi kept doing their job every day, the counter intelligence effort went on every day, and look, what goes on in the department of justice is overwhelmingly carried on by professional day-to-day professionals and jeff sessions leads them, directs them. he is still doing all of that. this is embarrassing. it's frustrating for him, but it doesn't stop him from doing his job unless he lets it, and i think he's made it very clear he isn't going to let it stop him from doing his job. >> do you think that this is an none too subtle dhags jeff sessi indication that jeff sessions is not long for this job? >> let's look ahead one step.
3:41 am
let's say jeff sessions were no longer the attorney general. can you imagine, can you imagine the confirmation hearings for whomever followed jeff sessions? i have a hard time, frankly, seeing anybody get through that right now, anybody, no matter how good they were, as a simple matter of partisanship combined with the hand wringing of many of the republicans in the senate, in a 52/48 senate where john mccain may or may not be available to vote anyway and he'd be one of the hand wringers. >> i hear on that. david gregory was making a similar point but i don't -- let's dig into that for just one second. all right, let's say jeff sessions leaves or the president moves on and says you have to leave, and it happens. he then puts somebody in, maybe even comes to ken cuccinelli and says here's the deal. you're totally qualified for this job. the republicans like you. we have the numbers. let's just get one thing straight. you're not recusing yourself from anything to do with this and i want the special counsel
3:42 am
gone. are you good with that? yes, i'm good with that, mr. president. he has the numbers in the senate. i don't get where the confidence comes from that the senate is going to move against the president, when they have not stepped up, not the leadership, and not any significant number of republican senators or congressmen to criticize anything that he has said or done. where is your confidence they'd step up in a confirmation hearing? >> oh, i don't agree with that. i remember sitting with jake tapper at the intro to one session a week or so ago and he just rattled off republican after republican after republican who were making critical remarks. i think you see a lot of's hadation, not outright criticism but you'd see hesitation to the point of not moving nominations forward among some republicans. you've got lindsey graham, john mccain would undoubtedly be sensitive, susan collins, lisa murkowski, a whole cadre of senior republican senators that are going to be particularly
3:43 am
prickly about moving any nomination forward, and i think that leaves jeff sessions right where he is, continuing to do the job with this continuing reign of twitter annoyance, but he will do the job. what won't happen is the rest of the president's agenda will be slowed down by this distraction. >> how so? >> capitol hill is distracted by it. well, because if this is what you're talking about, look at when he had that lunch with the republican senators over health care. suddenly that whole day, and into the next, was spent by republican senators talking about oh, gosh, how can we solve this problem? i mean, he generated as president using the bully pulpit. he generated movement at least substantive discussion about how to solve the problems they were confronting on health care. can he
3:44 am
he can do that as president. he can't do that if he continually beleagueeurs himself with the twitter feed. >> he sees it as a source of strength, his calling out the sewer, distinguishing himself from career politicians. it was a big part of the motivation to hire donald trump was that he was an outsider, he was different. you don't see this as just enhancing -- >> he's different. >> -- that image? >> no. no. i mean look, he had a unique formula for winning the presidency, and his direct connection to the american people bypassing every other channel was absolutely critical to winning that race, absolutely critical, and for whatever anybody wanted to say about whatever he thumbed out, he used it spectacularly. he used it brilliantly, but i do not think that the way he has used it in the office of president has been helpful to him, like it was when he was campaigning to become president. >> it's an important
3:45 am
distinction. ken cuccinelli, always appreciate you here on "new day," making the case, making us better. >> chris, good to be with you. >> see you soon. chris, let me tell you about a sports, something i know a lot about. >> please. >> a new point guard for lebron james, derrick rose signing with the cavaliers, i'm told this is basketball. so whose days are numbered? we have details in "the bleacher report" next. le mkc. on the versatile midsize lincoln mkx. or go where summer takes you in the exhilarating mkz. the lincoln summer invitation sales event. ask about complimentary pick up & delivery servicing. right now get zero percent apr plus 1,000 dollars summer savings on the lincoln mkx, mkc and mkz my hygi...a mouthwash.o try... so i tried crest. it does so much more than give me fresh breath. crest pro-health mouthwash provides all... ...of these benefits to help you get better dental check-ups. go pro with crest mouthwash.
3:46 am
checkup? nailed it take 5, guys. tired of your bladder always cutting into your day? you may have overactive bladder, or oab. that's it! we really need to get with the program and see the doctor. take charge and ask your doctor about myrbetriq (mirabegron) for oab symptoms of urgency, frequency and leakage. it's the first and only oab treatment in its class. myrbetriq may cause serious allergic reactions. if you experience swelling of the face, lips, throat or tongue, or difficulty breathing, stop taking myrbetriq and tell your doctor right away. myrbetriq may increase blood pressure. tell your doctor right away if you have trouble emptying your bladder or have a weak urine stream. myrbetriq may affect or be affected by other medications. before taking myrbetriq, tell your doctor if you have liver or kidney problems. common side effects include increased blood pressure, common cold symptoms, urinary tract infection, constipation, diarrhea, dizziness and headache. okay, time to do this! don't let your bladder always take the lead. ask your doctor if myrbetriq is right for you.
3:47 am
and visit myrbetriq.com to learn more. casper makes one perfect supportive and comfortable. premium foam layers. breathable for airflow. perfect rebound, plus perfect lift. pick your size, you get 100 nights to test it out. test the layers, be a layer, casper. finding the best hotel price is now a safe bet. because tripadvisor searches over 200 booking sites - so you save up to 30% on the hotel you want. lock it in. tripadvisor.
3:49 am
got some drama brewing in the cleveland cavaliers shop there, all this talk about kyrie irving getting traded. last night they signed free agent derrick rose. it's going to be plus and minus on that. curious to see what lebron james thinks of this whole thing. coy wire has more in "the bleacher report." what's your read, my handsome friend? >> chris, listen to this, man. former number one overall draft pick derrick rose will take a 90% pay cut to play for the cavs and a chance to win an nba title. rose made $21.3 million with the knicks last year. he signed a one-ier veteran minimum contract for $it.1 million to play in cleveland. he wants to play alongside king james and wants to go chase a
3:50 am
ring. king james tweeted out some rose emojis when he found out the news saying "let's rock, g. "no word from kyrie irving who previously asked to be traded, according to reports. we'll see how that pans out with the addition of rose now. this is the crazy part. the cavs and the warriors who have met in the last three straight nba finals now combine to have all of the nba mvps, from 2009 to 2016. those are some super teams, as they say, alisyn. another good season i do believe. >>et let's rock, g. i want to say that more often. >> you just did. >> let's rock, c. thanks so much, coy. will the president sign a bill that slaps new sanctions against russia? republican congressman will herd, next. this. who wants ice creeaaaaaam!? so that's how you get them to listen. take on summer right with ford, america's best-selling brand. now with summer's hottest offer.
3:51 am
get zero percent for seventy-two months plus an additional thousand on top of your trade-in. during the ford summer sales event get zero percent for seventy-two months plus an additional thousand on top of your trade-in. offer ends soon. ykeep you sidelined.ng that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you.
3:52 am
going somewhere? whoooo. here's some advice. tripadvisor now searches more than 200 booking sites to find the hotel you want and save you up to 30%. trust this bird's words. tripadvisor. won't replace the full value of your totaled new car. the guy says you picked the wrong insurance plan. no, i picked the wrong insurance company. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, you won't have to worry about replacing your car because you'll get the full value back including depreciation. switch and you could save $782 on home and auto insurance. call for a free quote today. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance.
3:54 am
the house is expected to pass a bill today that would hit russia with no sanctions as punishment for its election interference. the measure also would limit president trump from easing or altering those sanctions without congressional approval. joining us is republican congressman will herd of texas, he serves on the house intelligence committee and spent nine years working for the cia. congressman, thanks for being here. >> good morning, thanks for having me on. >> safe to assume you will vote for the new sanctions against russia for election meddling. >> very likely. russia is our adversary, but not our ally. they were obviously involved in trying to manipulate our
3:55 am
elections, and we should be doing everything we can to try to prevent that from happening in the future, and i think this is a good step in that direction but we also put additional sanctions on north korea, and iran. iran has continued to support terrorist organizations that are trying to attack u.s. men and women in the military and north korea has done over 17 missile launches in the last few weeks and there's additional sanctions on them as well. >> given all of that, what do you make of the president's spokespeople, sarah huckabee sanders and anthony scaramucci not saying with any certainty whether the president would sign this bill? >> we'll find out when it gets to his desk. it will pass in a bipartisan way here in the house. it will pass in the senate. the senate already passed similar legislation, and so i'm pretty confident that, when it gets to his desk he's going to sign this, and codifying the law what most of us here in the
3:56 am
house believe that russians need to be stopped from further activity, asymmetrical warfare especially targeting us and our elections. >> the president has not been clear about whether or not he believes it. he certainly doesn't believe it as vociferously as you just stated it. why doesn't he? >> you're going to have to ask him that question, and you know, i've spent 9 1/2 years as an undercover officer in the cia, had the honor of serving shoulder to shoulder with some real patriots, chased russian intelligence officers all over the world. asymmetrical are fair is their tool. they want to get back to the territory and integrity of the ussr and this is something that i saw in my career and i see now and we're going to continue to fight to make sure they change their ways. >> if the president were to veto this bill, what message would that send? >> send a pretty bad message, and i think it would be uproar i'm hearing in the house and senate, so i think this is going
3:57 am
to go smoother than most folks are anticipating, but we will see. >> the president has been busy this morning tweeting. there's been quite a tweet storm this morning. lot of it seems to be directed at his own attorney general, jeff sessions. yesterday he described the attorney general as beleaguered. this morning he said that, well i'll just read it to you. when he says attorney general jeff sessions has taken a very, in capitals, weak position on hillary clinton crimes. where are emails and dnc server and intel leakers? what do you make of how he's publicly criticizing his own attorney general? >> well, i think the attorney general and the president probably need to sit down and deal with their issues, and i think this is a distraction from other activities. it's a distraction from being able to talk about things like how do we have a counter covert influence strategy against the
3:58 am
russians? how do we make sure that we look at what our response was to the russian hacking and what should it be again in the future? we know the russians are going to likely try to do this again 2018 so we should be prepared for that, and so i think this is an important position, our government, in having this fight out in the open is good for nobody. >> jeff sessions to remind people was one of the president's earliest and most loyal supporters. as soon as president trump, then candidate trump decided to run, jeff sessions was all-in. he also left two decades of service in the u.s. senate to, and seniority to go and become part of the president's team as attorney general. does jeff sessions deserve this? >> well, that's something you are going to have to ask the president. i haven't been following every step and every move he's made. i will say this, when it came to him stepping down and refusing himself from the russia
3:59 am
investigation, that was the right move, because of his intimate involvement in the trump campaign. i do believe he was one of the first senators to endorse and support president trump early on in the primary process, so his involvement in that organization from an early stage was a reason why it was a right move in order to recuse himself from this investigation. >> he was the first actually to be supporting president trump's candidacy. what if the president fires jeff sessions? >> well, then someone's going to have to be nominated and go through a pretty grueling senate confirmation. if this does happen, i feel sorry for the next person to have to go through the senate and it's going to be a pretty rough and tumble process. >> jared kushner, scheduled to speak in front of a house panel with your staffers today. what do you want to know? >> well, i think he outlined
4:00 am
many of his, you know, what happened when it came to the meeting with lawyers, potentially representing the russian government. he outlined his contact with russian officials. i think unpacking some of the things in his statement is going to be important, but this is the way investigations go. you get people in. you ask questions. you cross-examine them. you determine, you try to corroborate information, and so that's what we'll be doing this morning in these hearings. >> okay, congressman will hurd, thank you very much for taking the time to be on "new day." >> thank you. thanks to our international viewers for watching. for you "cnn newsroom" is next. for our u.s. viewers president trump is increasing attacks on attorney general jeff sessions. "new day" continues right now. >> after seven years of saying repeal and replace obamacare, we have a chance to now do it. they've got do it. >> the senators who vote on
142 Views
Uploaded by TV Archive on