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i support him in that. >> some are like people, other brothers can fight and not get along. >> i'm not going to honor the president. >> john kelly will do a fantastic job. >> he will not put up some of the bs that has been going on in the white house. our president is impulsive, he's deceitful, he's autocratic, he's narcissistic. general kelly can't fix that. north korea launched another intercontinental ballistic missile, making it the second launch this month. >> this missile flew for about 45 minutes. >> it's concerning. obviously, we noticed lately that the north koreans are way more advanced than we thought they were. >> announcer: is this "new day weekend" with victor blackwell and christi paul. >> another major change in the
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white house. president trump has picked a new chief of staff. homeland security secretary john kelly is in, reince priebus is out. but priebus says this is the right move. >> i said, the president has a right to change the record. the president has a right to hit say reset button. i think it's a good time to hit the reset pbutton. i think he was right to hit the reset button. i think it's something that the white house needs. i think it's healthy. and i support him in it. north korea fires yet another pistol, but pyongyang claims this one will be able to hit the u.s. mainland, striking cities like los angeles, denver, chicago, and possibly even new york and boston. and the russia sanctions bill son its way to the president's desk. the white house says he will sign it but moscow is fighting back seizing two embassy facilities. first, though, president trump's
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purchasing pu purge of what he calls the washington swamp. let's goat to athena jones. do we know what the latest change means for the white house? >> as you mentioned, victor, one thing it means the so-called wing of the west wing seeing its power englished. two of its top two figures with the first the resignation of sean spicer press secretary. and now reince priebus out as chief of staff. one thing it could mean is it could be an opportunity to right the ship after months of turmoil and infighting that is still, in the public view. and that many outside observers have begun to worry is getting in the way of the president's agenda, the ability to carry out his agenda. remember, this is an administration now a little over six months into the job still can't point to any major
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legislative achievement. in fact, this week, the white house suffered another big blow which the senate republicans were unable to pass an obamacare repeal bill. something that republicans have been running on for years. something that one was one of president trump's campaign promises. and so, the hope is that bringing in general kelly who has been praised for his leadership skills by the likes of republican senators like senator lindsey graham of sc south carolina. and of course, by the president. we heard the president refer to general kelly as a star, a real star, one of the administration's true stars, several times during his speech in new york yesterday. i should note that the president also once called reince priebus a star. but there's still a lot of questions surrounding what this new move will amount to. for instance, will general kelly be empowered the way priebus wasn't.
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and to be a true gate keeper, and controller of access of the government. that is not the role that reince priebus played. we know a slew of advisers including the president's family, his daughter ivanka trump and her subject jared kushner are people that have a direct line to the president. will that change? will general kelly be able to stop the leaks that he himself has railed against, and that the president, of course, has been talking about for months. will he be able to stop president trump from waking up early in the morning and tweeting. sometimes, even tweeting important announcements like this week's ban on transgender people serving in the military. so, there are a lot of questions that go into whether kelly is going to be able to right that ship. going to be able to control that order and a president who looks like he wants to be managed
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much. >> we'll see if that happens. we're already a half dozen tweets into this day. we'll go over those in just a moment. athena jones, thank you. general john kelly served in the military for decades, and it was, quote, of the last thing he ever wanted to do what makes people wonder what changed his mind. cnn's correspondent diana gallagher is talking about that. "the washington post" talking about in an orarticle how the president tried to convince general kelly to take this position. he politely declined every time. what do we make of his yes now? >> christi, let's talk about you what made him take that homeland security job before. we talked to john kelly last month. he said it was a conversation with his wife. when the administration came calling, he spoke with his wife. and she said, look, the kelly family is about service to this nation. if they think you got to do it,
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then you got to take that job. at this point, it does appear that he needs john kelly to restore order to this chaotic white house. but the question is, is the president going to let him do what he actually needs. prosecute it was another major announcement made over twitter. >> we're following breaking news. president trump just announcing a new white house chief of staff. >> reporter: the president tapping homeland security secretary john kelly to replace his chief of staff reince priebus. >> john kelly will join us. >> reporter: kelly a retired marine corps general with nearly five decades of military service has searched many roles the latest a security seat in enforcing the immigration policy. earlier in his career, kelly served tours in iraq and afghanistan. his son robert michael kelly was
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killed during combat in afghanistan in 2010. president trump and general kelly visited his son's drive on memorial day earlier this year. starting monday, general kelly enters a new arena, white house politics. >> what i never saw on the military side was the level of toxic kind of politics that are associated with what i do now. the question now is can general kelly ewe night the west wing? where sharp elbows, daft infighting and loose lips have distracted from the president's agenda. and of course, trump sets the structure of the white house as athena mentioned earlier, all of those assistants who report directly to the president, the white house is say bit unorthadox. they like it that way. whether or not john kelly is going to get a chance to assert himself as chief of staff is still to be determined how much influence he's going to have. >> diane gallagher, thank you.
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>> with us now, retired general mark hurtlet, lynn suite from the chicago bureau times. and adam meants. the president is issuing statements via twitter. and we're going to put up some on the screen here. he seems to be venting after the failure of the health care legislation, tweeting this morning. if the senate democrats ever got a chance they would switch to a 51% majority vote in first minute. they're laughing at republicans make change. this is one of six tweets out this morning from the president. the president here, even if they went to a 51 majority, and that's what they needed as part of the budget reconciliation process, lynn, didn't get the 51 votes. >> well, that is what's remarkable. and we'll see if kelly has any influence on tweeting or not.
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i guess it's no, because is this what's important to the president. so, just so people who are listening know, the senate has all of these rules about what needs 50 votes to pass. and what needs 60 votes to pass. in which case, the party out of control does have extraordinary power. in the long run, this has served to benefit the party out of power which is what the leade s know. then you change these rules at risk of not having a voice in the future. because senators stick around much longer than presidents, they have a little different view of what needs 50 and 60 votes. now, having said this, this shows us that the president is still fuming, on losing the health care vote. and still doesn't have a strategy to get the votes he needs to however advance his agenda. that's really the bottom line here. he's boxed in. >> and democrats got rid ever
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60-vote threshold for appointees, everyone except for the supreme court several years ago. this year, republicans got rid of it, for supreme court appo t appointees to get justice gorsuch on the bench. and the president got 59 votes and the threshold was 51 for this budget reconciliation bill for health care. let's move now to this big shift in the white house. and general, let me come to you, because you know general kelly, secretary kelly well. and so does retired rear admiral john kirby who wrote this for cnn.com. let's put it on the screen. retired john kelly the president just got himself a no kidding, bona fide straight shooting full-time leader as a chief of staff. here's opening that mr. trump knows how to use him. from your perspective, how do that go? >> i read john kirby's op-ed
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this morning and i agree with everything he said on that. john kelly, i served with him during the surge, we conducted many operations together. collaborated on quite a few things. the man i knew was an extremely good leader. very pragmatic. very common sense. great sense of humor. loved his marines and is easy to work with. he also knows how to lead up, and that's an important thing to do in the white house. when we were together in combat, both ever us would try and meet our bosses up to do the things we wanted to do. so, that's an important thing that a leader needs to know how to do. the problem is that he has a really interesting cast of character within the white house, as we said in diane gallagher's interview that's going to be challenging. they're not alma marine all mar.
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even though he is going to have a tough time of it in my view to bring calm to chaos in the white house. >> and reported reince priebus weak, he's now going to get someone with broad shoulders. do we know that the president, or any indication that he's truly prepared for another power center support in the white house that he's getting in general kelly? >> right. i'm not sure, actually, i think the verdict is out as to whether or not trump is prepared. how he's going to structure this. you have kelly who's very strong. you've got an nsc who also has somebody there who also wants to exert himself when it comes to policy. you also have chaos that has gone on for months now. and it's really going to be interesting to watch to see how kelly tries to control not only the underlings who are still vying for authority and power. and also managing up to when it comes to trump, who has showed
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himself to be is very erratic. i mean, he is still -- until a few days ago, attacking the attorney general for recusing himself in the russia investigation. how is kelly going to manage these relationships? i don't think we have the answer to that, yet. >> lynn, i wonder how this impacts the president's legislative agenda. because, yes, repeal and replace failed in congress. that can't be placed solely on the shoulders of reince priebus. but you had someone who had relationships on the hill now gone and bringing in someone who doesn't have that legislative experience. ewe expect there would be impact on the white house to get stuff done. a lot more, i would imagine would go on to the plate of vice president. >> yes, but we have outlines here as we have a working relationship that is a better model. people who do leadership studies will do case studies on this. i think what's clear, president
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trump wanted a peer. that's what he sees in scaramucci, and kelly. instead of just staffers. i think in his world, people are divided that way. he wanted somebody who he thought was more an equal. not fair. maybe not right. so when it cummings to tomes to legislative piece, this is where kelly could have a system. he could be an intimidating figure to people like kushner and ivanka, because his experience could speak opposite in the way opposite of the talkative scaramucci. because they know he's a real thing as opposed to someone coming up through politics. >> let's talk about that. i'm running ought o ning out of. let me come to you, kelly/scaramucci dynamic, how will this formerly military man who's used to that regimented life deal with the free-wheeling
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new communications director? >> well, what we just said, i'm in drastic agreement with, that general kelly has character, and he has a presence. but he also have an enteinterla. i would suggest that kelly is being brought in because he is a mere peer of the president. i'm not sure that mr. scaramucci has the same as we say in iraq waspa. he's kicking a little tail, finding a leaker. kelly's got to run the ship. and we see him as a strong guy, immense presence and high intellect where he can corral some of these free-floating electrons and cause them to go in the right direction. and at least i home that's where he's going to bring discipline to the west wing. >> adam, finally to you the man brought in an announced at the same time as steve bannon, to
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reassure the republican party, i'm talking about reince priebus, of course is now gone, bannon's still there. what's the bhmessage to washington? >> you know, i'm not sure, it's clear the president is tapping someone in kelly to bring discipline to a very disorganized white house. i'm not sure where bannon fits in. obviously, he's survived through to this point. you know, are there additional changes that are coming? is the attorney general now in a better place with the president? we don't know what addition along changes might be coming down the pike. >> adam entous, lynn sweet, general hertling, glad to you. north korea now claims it has a ballistic missile that can hit anywhere in the united states u.s. officials claiming that might not be too far off.
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that is the warning from analysts after the north korean regime carried out a test launch yesterday. >> experts say a missile from north korea could possibly strike anywhere from los angeles to chicago. south korean officials say this missile is indeed more advanced than the one previously launched this month. the u.s. officials agree that the threat is certainly becoming more duplecomplex. >> it's concerning, obviously, we've noticed lately that north koreans are way more advanced than we thought they were. the icbm missile test surprised me that happened on july 4th. there-f there's another one, it's obviously disconcerting. every time they have a missile test, they learn from it, we also learn from it, we have
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tests to know what they're doing and it makes us better at defending. >> the secretary of state reacted the united states seeks the peaceful denuclearization of the korean peninsula and the end to belligerent actions by north korea. as we and others accept we will never have a threat to the region. > > >> and it tells cnn that the regime may be able to launch another nuclear missile by next year. which is years ahead of previous estimates. here's cnn's brian todd. >> reporter: a frightening new assessment of u.s. intelligence kim jong-un's latest weapon. the latest intelligence assessment. >> what's jarring is the pace at which north korea has been testing missiles for the past
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three years. the assumption going forward is that they will continue at this aggressive pace. >> reporter: the new assessment means kim will likely be ready two years earlier than previously expected with technology that could strike the united states. but the official cnn spoke with, says while the missile can get off the ground, it's reliability kol var could vary. missile experts agree. >> what are the variables here? what we have not seen and what we don't know is how accurate the missile will be. and whether it has the mechanisms to protect the warhead as it re-enters the atmosphere at very high speeds. >> reporter: july 4th, an intercontinental ballistic missile test-fired by north korea flies more than 1500 miles into space and returns at high speed. experts say that launch, and north korea's test of a high-thrust engine in march sped up the icbm capability and showed the determination to have this threat in the back pocket against the u.s.
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a key question now once he has a reliable long-range missile that will carry a warhead to america how will kim's behavior change. >> that's the critical question. there are those who believe now that he has icbm capability, he will be more likely to agress at lower levels of confrikts. conflict. on the other hand he has demonstrated with restraint when it matters. >> reporter: now, naeb shg, nos threatening a strike on the heart of u.s. that's in response to recent comments from cia director mike pompeo, when he discussed the north korea nuclear let. >> i'm hoping we will find a way to separate that regime from this system. the north korean people i'm sure lovely people would love to see him go as well. you might know they don't live a good life there. >> it's exactly what would drive him to launch a nuclear attack
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against the united states and its alt lies. >> reporter: the nuclear threat from north korea has accelerated to such an extent for the first time an american state is preparing for it on its own. officials in hawaii will soon start a campaign to inform the public what to do if north korea priors a nuclear-tipped missile. experts say it would take about 20 minutes for a missile launched from north korea to reach hawaii. brian todd, cnn, washington. people expected to hit the streets today in protest to president trump's transgender military ban. we have more on that. plus, heavy rain overnight caused severe flooding and high water rescues throughout the mid-atlantic. we have details on the flooding threats for millions this morning. this place is swag or bling. it's pretzels. word. ladies, you know when you switch, you get my bomb-diggity discounts automatically.
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history. secretary john kelly will leave the department of homeland security to take the job. he'll start monday where he'll join another meeting of the president's cabinets. as for priebus, he told us he supports the decision. >> iams always going to be a trump fan. i'm on team trump. and i look forward to helping him achieve his goals in his agenda for the american people. >> all right. staging new protests in several states today. this against president trump's transgender ban in the military. and senators are advising against the president in implementing the ban right away. in a "washington post," the senators wrote a letter asking not to dismiss anyone. right now, no changes have been made to the current policy that
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could change in a moment's notice. to discuss now former president of the transgender american veterans association martha helms. and retired general mark hertling. thank you both for being here. i want you to listen to remarks made by one of the president's aides on this issue. let's listen. >> the military is not a microcosm of civilian society. they're not there to reflect america. they're there to kill people and blow stuff up. we want people who are transgender to live happy lives but we want unit cohesion and combat effectiveness. there are studies from the establishment that state that the transgender community have a 40% suicide attempt rate. that is a tragedy. we need to help those people. we don't need to try and force them into the higher obstacle
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military environment where they're under the utmost pressure to kill or be killed. and that is why the president is doing this out of the warmth of his consideration for this population. >> general mark hertling, you have talked, i'm sure, in the last couple of days with your colleagues in the military. what are you hearing in that regard? >> as you know, john kelly and i both wrote an op-ed on this piece, claiming how the ban was identified by the president. why it was done. and why it was not a very smart move. we have transgenders searching. they're serving bell. i had them serving with me when i was still commanding. there's no problem with unit cohesion. there's very little problem in terms of funding for medical care for them. and mr. gorka is extremely ill-informed on this issue. he was mixing metaphors.
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he got on bbc and said those things yesterday. there was immediate reaction from lots of veterans, me includes. and it's unfortunate because it's not the first time he has been put up as a spokesman to talk about things that he knows very little about. >> monica, when you first heard about this change that the president tweeted about, what was your first reaction? >> i was saddened and disappointed. i was also angry about it, too. and this was not something that you would expect most people with -- this president, i kind of expected in the beginning. >> what would you want to say to the president, though, about this very issue? >> transgender people have been serving longer than they've been serving openly. they've been serving honorably. they have been in all branches of service, in all wars. so, we've been around a long time. >> sebastian gorka made a
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comment that he believes in in -- i'm paraphrasing here, that there's a 40% suicide rate with transgenders. and that they would be -- essenti essentially, the military would be a dangerous place for them. do you agree with that? >> no, i don't. because his figures are incorrect. as 40% have attempted suicide. that's the figure. and that's because they don't have a job. they are being harassed by society. and they're thrown out of their families. if they're in the military, they have a purpose. they will be able to serve this country and they will do their jobs. and they have to do their jobs very well. >> and you, sir, obviously, we want to point out, we've got some pictures, i believe, of your time in service. what does your service mean to you? >> it means a lot because my entire family has served. all the way back to my
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grandfath grandfather, even in the civil war, all of my family, my brother, my uncle, his son, we're a very patriotic family. i'm very proud of our family and what we have done. >> when you decided to undergo treatment. and become a woman, what kind of support did you get -- did you get support from the military, from the people that you knew? >> no, because i wasn't in contact with a lot of those people. i stayed away from many of the people in the military because of when i first came out, i did talk to some former submariners, like myself. and they were disappointed and upset with me. however, later on in life, 20 years later, these men have changed their mind. they supported me very well when i went and saw -- went to the a reunion last year, to submariners. and all of these men were
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extremely supportive of me. because i did the same job they did. i worked like they did, i went through all the same stuff. it's just that i changed differently in this part of my life. >> that's a better phrase, i just changed differently. we all change in different seasons of our life. general hertling, do we have any indication what prompted these tweets from the president? was it about money? was it about what gorka was talking about, what have you heard in that regard? >> there are indicators, and there have been various reports that it was exactly that. that it was political deal-making regarding the budget. i'm not going to go into that, i don't know that for a fact but there's certain valid reporting on that. but it did come out of blue, christi. secretary mattis just two weeks ago said he was continuing to study this.
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there was support among all of the service chiefs, they just wanted to dough a little more research to find out how transgender members were being treated. and in fact, secretary mattis put out a record saying i want to come back in december 2017 with my final assessment. and then the penalty gone tweets this out. so it caught the pentagon flat-footed. no one knew this was going to be tweeted out as a directive. and if i could say one more thing about mr. gorka's comment, he actually made something that is very insulting saying we are forcing these people into the service. i think what you find out when you do the research, you find out, number one, no one is forcing anybody into a voluntary service. in fact, transgenders are actually volunteering at a higher rate for a small percentage of the population, than the other 1% of the population in voluntary
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uniforms. it's just about facts and budget and how cohesion existed in the military that a lot of people got wrong this week. and it's really unfortunate, because transgenders are serving with a great deal of pride in the their country. i meant john kirby, not john kelly earlier. i want to correct myself. >> john kirby said we would lose a lot of talent if what happens the president is trying to mandate. thank you, lieutenant general mark hertling, monica helms, so glad to have you here. visibili victor. >> the unit cohesion was used to keep blacks from serving in the military, women from serving and gays serving openly. today, america has the strongest fighting force in the world. moving on, the president on talk on how police should handle suspects after an arrest.
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>> and when you see these thugs being thrown in the back of a paddy wagon, you see them thrown in, rough. i say please don't be too nice. like when you guys put somebody in the car, you're protecting their head, you know, you put your hand, like don't hit their hand, they just killed somebody. don't hit your head, i say you can take the hand away, okay. >> cheers and applause standing behind the president after markings made. that the president made about ms-13 gang violence but now some law enforcement is endorsing what they call endorsement of police brutality. >> look, the remarks we heard yesterday from the president are very disturbing to all of us in the law enforcement community and across this country. we have been working for years, a large number of years, a great number of years to improve relationships and certainly, in the most recent years we have
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been. when you have the highest office in the land make a comment to the fact, give inference to that brutality is okay. you're not going to find a city leader or police executive anywhere in this country who's going to support that. we're really outraged by that remark. and certainly, we want to make it very clear that police in this country, it is an honorable profession. a profession by which we operate by laws and policies. but more importantly, is that we have a constitution in this nation that we live by. and under that constitution is which by we make decisions on the street and dot very best job every day to keep the community safe. we know that men and women across this country face some very unique challenges out there. they put their lives at risk. and all of us support what they do. but none of us are going to support the idea that we should be brutal in any type of way. >> also of note, president trump mentioned that the current laws are, as he said, stacked against
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more than 20 million people, look at this, are under a flood watch this morning, after a rare n nor'easter storm caused severe flooding. cnn moteteorologist jennifer gr has been watching this. >> conditions are going to improve throughout the day but rain's been falling and we have set records over portions. mid-atlantic. as you guys have mentioned high-water rescues during
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overnight hours of pennsylvania, west virginia, ohio. we still have flood warnings in place. flood watches in place as well. and we've also seen our radar estimated rainfall, 4 to 6 inches. some of these areas outside of d.c., battle more, close to the coast. and so the rainfall is going to continue-some of these rivers will continue to rise before they start to lower before we get into the afternoon. also daily rainfall records have been broken across three airports. added to that today, pittsburgh, who broke a record early this morning, the rain's still falling. so, we don't have rainfall totals in quite yet. but that flood threat remains, six rivers in minor flood stage. a lot of those around d.c. but the rain will slowly taper off as we get into the latter part of the day. but do watch out, water is still very high in across these areas in the mid-atlantic. we'll be right back after a break. is the stuff that matters?
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outgoing chief of staff reince priebus said he's happy with the president's choice to make a a chance. mark rolfing is joining us now. nose reince priebus well. thank you so much for being with us. we appreciate it, mike. so i wanted to ask you real quickly, something that reince said to wolf blitzer about him leaving his position. he said, it was something that i had always talked to the president about, which is, and i have always said to him and he always agreed with me, anytime that either one of us think we need to make a change to move in a different direction, let's just talk about it and get it done. when he said we always talked about that. what exactly does that mean? because i'm wondering how comfortable you get in a position when you're talking about changing? >> i'm not sure he meant constantly talking about it. but i think reince is very practical in his approach to
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this. it was an odd role, he didn't have complete control at the white house in access too the president in making day-to-day, legislative policy decisions, he didn't have that role. so, i think he understood there was a chance this would not work. essentially, since the first part of his tenure there, you know, it was a bit of a rocky start in the internal side. the great example was the president was talking about ms-13 yesterday, gave a big speech on it. because he tweeted over that about his chief of staff change, none of that got covered. so, i think they probably both came to the conclusion, now's a good time to try to change that, if he's going to be successful, he being the president, successful in a legislative agenda coming up. >> mr. chairman, general kelly is going to have to do more than walk and chew gum at the same time, he's going to have to walk, chew gum, bounce a ball, a
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lot to do for the incoming chief of staff? >> take control of the white house. competing factions in the white house. access to the president. there was a list in the beginning, some 28, two dozen people have walk-in privileges to the white house. given the way the president is, you're not going to change the president nor the way he presents himself. but what you can change is the flow of information to build on what your policy agenda is. and you need one person in charge to do that. the 800-pound gorilla, you really can't have your father going around the white house. if they're go to be in the white house, they need to be within the structure of the white house chief of staff who helps control the debate and all of those things. certainly general kelly can do that. this may be one of those things people who supported trump that wanted infrastructure and tax reform and all of that, that gives them a little control,
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finally, we're going to stop this infighting, this fraction, kind of an attitude in the white house. and start put something discipline back in the white house to get your agenda done. and i think certainly the general has the ability to did that. >> mike rogers, thank you for being here. do not miss "the classified with mike rogers" at 9:00 p.m. eastern. here's a look. >> we were able to have it confirmed that he did get on the flight. and then we were waiting for him upon arrival at madrid airport with the spanish national police. >> so, we're all waiting at the airport, everything was set up. the spanish national police were supposed to observe him getting off the gate. we were watching monzer walk into the baggage claim area, now, all of a sudden, over the radio, we're heard, we're lost him. and we thought that he had caught on to us and he had escaped out the side door.
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and then everyone got into a panic mode. went around nervous, where is he, where is he. even the d.a. was running around in the baggage area trying to locates him. john and i were going point "a" to point "b," all of a sudden here comes monzer, he walked out of the bathroom. >> oncely arri he arrived in ba the spanish national police put him under arrest. "declassified" tonight at 9:00 eastern on cnn. that's it for us. thanks for being with us. >> make great memories, but do stay close. "smerconish" is next. hi. i'm the one clocking in... when you're clocking out. sensing your every move and automatically adjusting to help you stay effortlessly comfortable. there.
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i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. we welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. the president up early this morning, a barrage of tweets blaming democrats for his problems and encouraging the gop to challenge the phil buster rules. meanwhile, the revolving doors in the white house keep turning. just one week after sean spicer resigns, reince priebus is out as chief of staff. >> i think he was right to hit the reset button. >> i think bring in fresh face. i think bring in fresh people is a good thing. >> he's gone, after just 189 days. that's the shortest tenure for a chief of staff until modern history. his replacement, homeland security secretary john kelly. can the general impose discipline on the president? i'm going to talk to pat buchanon.
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