him, the cheering. this is something that he exploited i think throughout the campaign and i think sometimes was an underdiscussed dynamic of this, right, his tough talk about law enforcement, supporting law enforcement, his kind of flippant and glib nature, beat them up and throw them out. we support our men in blue, we've got your back. that was attractive to many rank and file officers who think that is a thug, throw him in the back the car. what is with all this scrutiny we're getting? of course we've had a lot of police leaders who have condemned this in strong unequivocal terms, but we can't forget that many of the folks who are really the ones intersackeinte interacting with people on the streets heard these comments and smiled a little bit about them. there's a division between some of your rank and file officers and your command staff. >> donte', quickly, we're almost out of time, what is the message you're giving to lawmakers and police chiefs across the country how to best serve these communities? >> well i think you just have to bring the human element into it, and you have to get them to

understand that these are people who are dealing with these situations on a daily basis. and so for that, i think that just from a human element, that should be to me that should be enough to get the ball rolling, but there's a lot of work that needs to be done here in washington, d.c., and we've got a lot of congressmen and women who are open to helping criminal justice reform so that's a good thing. >> that is a great note to end on. don donte', wesley. thank you. for our international viewers, c cnn today" is next. for our u.s. viewers, "new day" is next. the new report the president misstated the son's lawyer. >> the president played a deeper and more complete role than we'd understood previously. >> clearly the right thing to do would have been to be up front about this. >> if he did dictate it and if he knew it was false, you bet it could be part of a legal problem

for him. general kelly has the full authority to operate within the white house and all staff will report to him. >> the mooch might have been a bit too much. >> what we're seeing is basically "the apprentice" with democracy at stake. >> his reverence and respect for military generals may turn out to be our saving grace. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day." up first another revelation in the russia investigation. "the washington post" is reporting that president trump personally dictated that misleading statement about his son's meeting with a russian lawyer. now this news flies in the face of repeated denials from the president's attorney and the white house. is the president somehow in the cross-hairs now of the special counsel? >> on this show, we asked his attorney jay sekulow if he had any role, and he said no. now, the president is insisting there is no chaos in his administration, even though

after only a few days on the job, communications director anthony scaramucci is out. the new chief of staff acting quickly to rein in the chaotic west wing. how successful will the general be? we will see. we have it all covered. let's begin with cnn's joe johns live at the white house. another interesting morning, joe. >> reporter: that's for sure, chris. the significance of this is of question, whether there was attempt to concealment at the highest level here at the white house, or if there's some other innocent explanation after that stunning revelation about the administration's response to the report in the "new york times" that don jr. met with a russian lawyer during the campaign. it has the potential to cause legal problems for the president as the white house continues to deal with the fallout from the latest shakeup. "the washington post" reporting that president trump personally dictated his son's misleading initial statement about the reason for the june 2016 meeting

with a russian lawyer. if t all happened on air force one while the president was returning from the g20 summit last month. "the post" says president trump overruled his advisers, who were advocating for full transparency, directing the statement to describe the focus of the meeting being about adoption of russian children. trump jr.'s own emails released days later showed the action providing the trump campaign with incriminating information on hillary clinton from the russian government. it remains unclear if president trump knew this at the time. "the washington post" reports that white house advisers now worry that the president's direct involvement leaves him needlessly vulnerable to allegations of a coverup. >> i wasn't involved in the statement drafting at all, nor was the president. i'm assuming that was between mr. donald trump jr., between don jr. and his lawyer. >> reporter: after vehemently denying that president trump was involved last month, one of the president's private attorneys

refutes "the washington post" report in a statement saying, "apart from being of no consequence, the corkizations are misinformed, inaccurate, and not pertinent." these stunning revelations coming after the president vowed there was no chaos at the white house, tweeting that it was a great day, despite another major shakeup. >> i have no doubt that he will be an absolutely superb chief of staff. >> reporter: communications director anthony scaramucci ousted by the new chief of staff general john kelly, after only days on the job. scaramucci's brief tenure marred by a vulgar tirade about his white house colleagues and amplified in a bizarre interview on "new day." >> as you know, from the italian expression, "the fish is it inches from the head town" well i can tell you two fish that don't stink, okay, and that's me and the president. >> reporter: negative media coverage of at tacks on reince priebus and steve bannon eroding the president's trust in scaramucci. >> the president certainly felt

that anthony's comments were inappropriate for a person in that position. >> reporter: despite the president's own history of vulgar comments. >> grab them by the [ bleep ]. >> reporter: which led to a rare apology in the final stretch of the campaign. two sources close to the white house tell cnn that the president initially found scaramucci's comments amusing but eventually soured after it appeared scaramucci was overshadowing him. the new white house chief of staff making it clear that he wants to rein in what you might call the free-for-all here at the white house. all staffers expected to report to him. chris and alisyn? >> i have heard the expression "the wild west wing" used. joe, thank you very much. let's talk about all of this with our great panel. josh green is the author of "devil's bargain" and senior national correspondent "bloomberg business week" david gregory and ryan lizza who got

the bombshell interview with anthony scaramucci who set his downfall. "the washington post" reporting it was president trump himself who dictated that misleading message about don jr.'s meeting with that russian lawyer. what do you make of all this? >> well, look, there's a potential legal problem here in terms of obstruction of justice. there's the fact that the president, his lawyers, others in the white house have misled the public and the press about -- >> which is not illegal. >> yes, right, but whether obstruction of justice is illegal, and certainly will attract for scrutiny from special prosecutor mueller, but the fact he's not leveling with the american people again and i think the biggest point of all, which is this is just another indication that the real problem in this white house, the chaotic nature of the white house, the undisciplined nature of the white house is the president himself. the president is his own communications director. he's his own strategist. he acts as his own lawyer. he doesn't listen to other

people, and he's fighting every war that can possibly, that he could possibly take on. when you do all of that, it's a losing proposition. maybe he's turned a corner here with a new chief of staff. we have to see what happens, but that is just another indication of the core problem in this white house. >> all right, so you have two issues. the first one is that the president's counsel said he had nothing to do with it. that was the word from the white house, and now "the washington post" says that was all a lie, to remind, here is his attorney on "new day," being asked about this specifically. so he didn't have anything to do with the statement that don jr. put out being worked on with his team? >> no, the statement that don jr. put out, you talking about yesterday's, chris? >> the one over the weekend the president was seen as helping with. >> no, that was written by donald trump jr. and i'm sure in consultation with his lawyer. >> the "new york times" is reporting the president okayed the statement. >> well they're incorrect. >> the "new york times" is

wrong? >> yes, i know, is that shocking sometimes they make a mistake? >> shock is that you would say something that is that grossly inaccurate, knowing it's going to be discovered. and then you have a second issue which is, what was that introductory statement? it was that you know, don jr. saying it was a short introductory meeting. i asked jared and paul to stop by. we primarily discussed a program about the adoption of russian children that was active and popular with american families years ago and was since ended by the russian government but it was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow-up. i was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance and was not told the name of the person i would be meeting with. at the time the big story there, josh green, was that there is no russian adoption program. this is about sanctions and money being taken from putin, but that was the least of the concern, as it turns out. >> well, it was, and what's odd about the statement that trump dictated is it seems clear in hindsight that the new york times knew move.

within hours of the statement coming out, more reports that gave us further details, who was in the meeting and what they were doing and the fact this was really about getting russian dirt on hillary clinton or at least that was what was promised and we also know that don jr. was aware of that, because he himself released emails once it became clear that they were coming out. i think it shows a problem with trump and the president in particular grappling with the fact that these stories are going to come out. you can't just spin and on face indicate and mislead and hope that they're going to go away. >> ryan that leads us to the feeling inside the white house and that is certainly open for examination this week with everything we've seen. one things that comes to the attention of the public the magazine that punished an off the record comment that jared made to congressional interns. he was in a meeting with interns, and he said something that one of them then told foreign policy, and i will read

it, about what he thinks his mind-set. he says, "they thought we included with russia, but we couldn't even collude with our local offices," meaning? inside the white house, it was so disorganized, that they couldn't have orchestrated a collusion if they wanted to. if that quote is accurate, i mean, jared seems to be telling the truth there. >> yes or inside the campaign. i think that this is a comment that you've seen anonymously from a lot of people and from a lot of people, a lot of trump surrogates that the campaign was so chaotic, they were barely, you know, could barely tread water, and how could they have pulled off some complicated collusion scheme with russia? i mean, i think at the very least, we know from the email to don jr. that we now know the

president sought to obfiscate about that the trump campaign was at the very least open to the idea of collusion. the email literally says, hey, putin's -- russian supports your campaign and we want to get some information, some dirt to you about hillary clinton and don jr. very excitedly says, let's do it, set up the meeting. >> he says "i love it." he says "i love it" which shows they're open to it. >> they put a big "open for business" sign on the front of the campaign, if if you've got something negative, we don't care what the source is. this idea we were too disorganized to do it, it doesn't take a whole lot to collude with someone, with a foreign adversary who has negative information. all it takes is a meeting and email. we've seen that so far. so look, we don't have proof of illicit collusion, but we certainly have evidence that they were looking for information and they didn't really care about what the source was. so this idea that they were too

disorganized, i'm not so sure that stands up. we'll see what the evidence finally proves. >> david -- >> but -- >> i appreciate it, ryan. david, let's get your analysis on what the problem is here, and what the potential solution may be. obviously the headline is scaramucci's out, kelly is in. those two things were apparently connected. what do you make of what the problem is, and what this potential solution may yield? >> well, i mean i just think it's been a joke. the behavior within the white house. i mean the lie from the president that as a business leader he was going to come in and run a great organization like his own organization, and then he has this nonsense. scaramucci acting like this is seventh grade home room, instead of the west wing, and the presidency. i mean, really a joke. so all right, so that's behind them. not shocking, given this white house, and how the president has decided to operate, and behavior he's decided to countenance in his midst.

point about russia, what's silly about the kushner comment is they were not only open for business, they never took the threat from russia seriously, despite what was known during the campaign and from intelligence services the president still doesn't accept that russia alone did this. now at least congress has tied his hands on the sanctions. the issue now is the potential to turn the corner. there are people like general mattis, and now general kelly who are close enough on really big issues to have the president's ear and apparently have his respect to potentially instill some real discipline in trump. the question is whether trump listens to anybody, and that will be the ultimate test, and this whole issue with the misleading comment that "the post" is reporting on this morning, what does general kelly do with that, do with the response to that? that's what we're going to be keeping our eyes on, because you have a chief of staff who has got this kind of power. let's see him, the evidence of him actually using it on issues that matter, real problems, like north korea, things like that. not this nonsense about gossip

between advisers. >> and of course, josh, the other thing is that if the white house was, and the campaign was that disorganized, as jared seems to imply here, they never acknowledge that they might have been susceptible to russian collusion, that they might have been blythely going into meetings and if you take the best reading of it, not knowing what to expect, and sort of underestimating the russians and what they hoped to do, and so there's that whole layer as well. >> yes, i don't think incompetence is a strong defense from jared kushner, and if you look at the don jr. emails that we've already seen and are already public, they're factual, there's no disdispute whatsoeve. you can see how russian collusion happened. it took an email from a european music promoter who knew trump's kids from back in the old days, i want you to have a meeting with this lawyer, this friend of

mine and boom you're in the door. i don't know that the excuse offered up and leaked by the interns on jared kushner is one that's going to hold a lot of sway for people, certainly not for bob mueller. >> gentlemen, appreciate the perspective. thank you. we have so much news this morning we need to tell you about then cnn exclusive. according to two sources before becoming the new white house chief of staff, general john kelly was upset with how president trump handled the firing of fbi director james comey and even considered stepping down as secretary of homeland security as a result. shimon prokupecz joins us with more. what have you learned? >> new white house chief of staff john kelly was so upset with the way president trump handled the firing of fbi director james comey that he called comey shortly after he was terminated to say how angry he was. at the time, kelly was secretary of homeland security. the sources say kelly was particularly upset by the way

comey was treated by learning he had been fired on the news rather than by the president. the call took place while comey was traveling back from los angeles toe washington may 9th, after learning the news. comey declined to comment to us about the story, as well as others contacted for the story, alisyn. >> okay, and you understand that the call might have even gone further than that? >> that's right. it was a sort of lengthy conversation we're told, and kelly was so angry that he even told comey he was contemplating resigning from his position as secretary of homeland security, in a show of solidarity. comey we're told, told him don't resign and our sources cautioned us it was unclear how serious kelly was about resigning himself, and of course that never happened and now he's, you know, white house chief of staff. chris? >> thanks for reporting all that with us this morning. thanks, shimon. >> important story because it gives us a window into kelly's threshold and how that may play

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"the washington post" is reporting this morning that president trump dictated his son's misleading initial statement about that meeting with a russian lawyer. the president's own lawyer repeatedly denied that president trump had any involvement with that statement. so how are republicans reacting today? joining us now is republican congressman lee zelden of new york. >> great to be back with you. >> if "the washington post" is correct the president himself dictated that misleading statement that this was a meeting about adoptions, not mentioning anything about the offer of dirt on hillary clinton, what does it mean that the president did that? >> well, a couple thoughts come to mind. one is there is a point buried deep in this "the washington

post" story that it is unknown what the president knew about the trump jr. meeting at the time of that flight. so that's important to keep in mind. i was looking for that part in the story, just to see -- >> hoping to hang your hat on something, right? because if the president knew about the emails then it is even worse to be misleading in this way. >> so then the second point related to that is, it's always best to have the maximum amount of transparency on any issue that is before you, as it obviously played out in this particular case with the few days in a row of the story coming out. >> and does this look like the maximum amount of transparency to you? >> again, i would be, i would be really interested in knowing what the president knew at that time and it's good that "the washington post" pointed out, i wish it was a little bit higher up in their story. >> so you believe that. you think it's possible that the president's son and all of the attorneys and all of the aides did not mention to president trump oh, by the way, there are

these emails where don jr.'s excited about taking a meeting about hillary clinton research? >> i don't know and even "the washington post" doesn't know and it's important that they point that out. i'm not saying that to harp on that one point. i'm just saying it's good information to know, that the president dictated a statement and obviously as it played out over the course of a few days, it's good to provide maximum amount of information up front, so that the slow drip doesn't hurt. >> i an excerpt from "the washington post" report. "the president directed that don jr.'s statement to "the times" described the meeting as "unimportant." if you're calling for transparentally, what do you say to the white house? >> well, the meeting did end up becoming unimportant. that's actually why they were upset with how the meeting went. it was clear from the emails that were released actually right after i was with you last

time, that one of the emails was pretty clear what the purpose of the meeting was from the perspective of those from the trump campaign going to sit down, but as far as what happened at the meeting, that wasn't at all what -- >> understood but it seems like they're not disclosing everything that they know. about this meeting. in other words why is this coming out in piecemeal? you're saying they should be more transparent. why start with a misleading statement. why have that be your beginning point? >> again, i've been going back to i would really need to know what the president knew and "the washington post" would need to know what the president knew to be able to declare that to be misleading. it was misleading in hindsight based off of all the information that we know, but you know, donald trump jr. said that he is going to, he wants to cooperate with the investigations that are taking place. he wants to be transparent. he says in hindsight he would have handled things differently. i believe and i've weighed in,

that once those emails came out, once i read them, the meeting shouldn't have taken place. they did. i've spoken up on that component of it but as far as this morning's story goes, you know, i am not trying to come up with the worst possible assumptions to make the president look as bad as possible. i'm someone who wants to, i want the facts to come out. there's an investigation and they want to cooperate. i also care a lot about a legislative agenda. i care about our country. i want him to be successful and there need to be more oxygen left to be able to talk about all of the issues. because i ask my constitch swenswent constituents, who is the most important issue? some might say russia, others hack, social security. >> i understand that but it seems as though well, look, senator jeff flake, a fellow republican, has a new op-ed out there morning, where he's saying it's time to basically for

republicans to speak up about things that they're not happy about come out of the trump administration. let me read you a portion of this. he says "too often we observe the unfolding drama along with the rest of the country passively, all but saying, someone should do something! without seeming to realize that someone is us, so that unnerving silence in the face of an erratic executive branch is an abdication and those in positions of leadership bear particular responsibility." how do you interpret what he's saying? >> i believe it is it important, whether you're a republican or democrat, where you agree and disagree with a president, either of your own party or the opposite party, that you speak up on it. that might mean saying something nice about a president of the opposite party and it might mean saying something critical of a president of your own party. >> do you think republicans have been too silent about some of the missteps of the white house because just what you said, you're hoping to get your agenda passed so you let some things slide that are unacceptable,

coming out of the white house? >> i can't speak for my colleagues for me. i have spoken up many times where i agree with the president on issues and i've spoken up where i have disagreed where things might have been said or certain policy statement were made and i would encourage all myself colleagues and i encouraged, and not to be, you know, don't want to be a hypocrite, august of 2015, we're going through the iran nuclear deal debate talking to colleagues on the other side of the aisle who were against the iran nuclear deal, coming back from august, and when the president of your own party starts calling you multiple times, they were telling me they were going to vote for it but it wasn't worth it. fast forward two years, remember that experience, that perspective from the opposite side of the aisle, as you see something that you might disagree with. it is important to weigh in. it's also important to weigh in if there's something that is good to help get things done. >> understood. quickly you were on air force one i understand on friday with anthony scaramucci and the president.

any inkling of what was about to unfold? >> and reince. >> and reince priebus. how was that exchange? >> sitting between reince and mooch. >> awkward. >> you know, it was actually, to their credit, and especially reince, spent the entire trip, he was doing his job as chief of staff. we were talking about health care, ms-13. i did not see that just a few hours later that you'd have that shakeup and a few days after that you'd have the news of yesterday. >> were you sensing tension? >> well, you know, i haven't quite heard the saying what happens on air force one stays on air force one. there wasn't interaction between them. you interpret that for what it is, but i would say that it wasn't tension that resulted in nothing getting done, nothing getting discussed. the president came in. we were all discussing issues

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president trump's new chief of staff general john kelly is trying to rein in the free-for-all inside the white house. tall task. is a general the right fit for the job and how about kelly in particular? let's discuss with former white house chief of staff to president clinton, mac mcclarty and jane harmon. harmon worked with kelly for years in that capacity, now president and ceo of the wilson center. good to have you both. mack, starting at 30,000 feet here, what do you make of the

comings and goings inside the white house that have culminated in general kelly as chief of staff? >> i think the president realized he was going to have to make some changes. i think he has. he's clearly i think empowered general kelly or chief kelly, that's what it appears at this point. i think, chris, when you really look at it, what you've got to do first is get a government in place. we were able to get our cabinet confirmed the day after, save one inauguration. two, you've got to step on the world stage, and three, you've got to get some things done for the american people, i.e. your legislative agenda. in our case it was an economic plan, frankly president trump had a big setback with health care. general kelly's got to establish some discipline and order. i think he's well on his way to do that. he's had a distinguished record obviously in service to our country. i think he's likely the right person to try to do this job, chris. >> let's talk about why, jane. people see a general in uniform, military, and they think well, but does he have the political savvy? people don't get how political

generals can be, that they have those skills, and in fact, we have seen kelly evidence that sleight of hand that's necessary on the political side. what's your take? >> first of all my hat's off to anyone brave enough to be white house chief of staff. it's a really hard job. just ask mack, who did it with the grace and charm andtallet t. at any rate kelly has all those things and the military background i think helps, for starters. he's been in -- he's in a disciplined organization both up and down the ranks, and he spent 45 years there. he's been out of the military, let's remember this, for about a year or more. he was at the homeland department for seven months, and i thought he was extraordinary as secretary of homeland security. i'm really sad that he's leaving there, and the excellent team he has built and supported, and the things that he is doing, giving the throats airline security for example, the recent plot in australia, and i guess the good news, the only good news i can

see for him personally is that he will now be on top, i hope, of a real strategy development team for north korea. i think the north korean threat is urgent. things could happen any minute, and we need a whole of government response, not just a military response, and as you've pointed out, there's no depth in most of the other departments yet. so it matters that there's a steady hand at the top. >> and it all is about how he balances the various responsibilities. mack, john podesta obviously has his own experience in this area. he wrote an op-ed in "the washington post" called an imposition mission. "the best advice i could have given general i don't know f. kelly has beenover sustain by events, don't take the job. he just signed up for what may be truly an impossible mission, bringing discipline, order and strategic locus to the chaos that is the trump white house." he is supposedly everyone's boss, that includes jared kushner and ivanka trump. puts out a tweet, could have been a language issue but puts out a tweet saying "i look

forward in working with the general." she doesn't work with him. she supposedly works for him. how does a general keep the president's kids from walking in and out of the oval office? >> that's a challenge for any chief of staff, chief javelin catcher, as the job has been called, and thanks, jane, to your kind words, but it's also gatekeeper, a recent book by chris whipple about that. you have to maintain some order and discipline and that includes who can go in the oval office and not. but chris, you cannot cut off communication from the president. so i think what chief kelly's got to do here, certainly focus on order of stability and discipline but process is only part of it. the real challenge for this white house is to get results, to pivot from campaigning to governing. >> right. >> that is the key, and when bill clinton came into office, he only had 43% of the vote, after the first year, after the economic plan, the family medical leave act, and getting some foundational pieces in

place, his approval rating was 54%. the country felt pretty good about things. that's what president trump and chief kelly needs to do. they need to look outward not inward. >> you have to put up points on the board. i get you on that. >> no question. >> in terms of like tone and what the man's take is, jane harmon, i've been only partially joking this morning that the president hasn't tweeted, and that is one of the indicia of liability whether or not the president is focused on what he's supposed to be on. knowing general kelly the way you do, how does that conversation go? trump is like all right that's it, auto uhm' tweeting. i've had it, that cuomo on his show. blah, blah, blah, how does that conversation go? >> i can't really imagine how that goes. we've never had a commander-in-tweet before. >> well done. >> i don't know, but let me say a couple things about that. i mean kelly, in addition to the long military career, has faced tragedy in his own family. everybody knows that he lost his

son in combat in afghanistan, after six weeks, he has another son who is on his fifth tour, was just deployed, and that changes you, and this man has compassion, empathy, a quality of connection that i think will change a lot, including the relationship between white house staffer, that would be him, and the president, and i think it will make a big difference. as for the kids, you can't cut off the kids. maybe during office hours, but they're his kids. and so the hope is that they, who wanted a change in the white house, will recognize that this will make their father or father-in-law's presidency much more successful and let me just say one thing about that. he's my president, too, at a time of huge threat, we want our president to be successful. whomever we voted for, and this president needs to succeed, our country needs to succeed. let me put it that way, including congress, and one comment about congress. i hope they go back to health care, and they did do something

amazing last week, on a bipartisan, bicameral basis they passed that very tough sanctions law against russia, iran, and north korea, and speaking with one voice, our government can do so much more. >> we just had the vice president talking about russia's presence in georgia. we know how bad that can go from the bush years. so we'll see if there's some cohesion to move us forward. jane, mack, thank you very much. appreciate you both. >> thank you, chris. >> thank you, chris. >> alisyn? chris, you have to hear this story. there are security risks apparently in the white house. how a prankster learned about some white house feuds just by sending a few emails.

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he wrote i promised myself i would leave my hands mud free, but after today, about who has class and who has pushed me to this. doesn't matter. scaramucci fell for it, writing you know what you did. we all do, even today but rest assured we were prepared. a man would apologize, and the exchange went on. it turns out the only trump who did not fall for the trick was eric trum trump. i have sent this to law enforcement who will handle from here. the frankster trick is called spear fishing. it makes your e-mail address look like a legitimate one. he says his motivation is mirth, not malice. the reason we picked up on other and the entertainment value is

this phishing thing is real. it is a window into how easy it can be to manipulate. yes, a little bit of a meaningful suggestion to what happened with russia and their interference. there are lots of different tools. >> in other words, all the plattering e-mails you send me every day about how well i'm doing, are those real or -- >> they are 100% authentic, though, inspired by your telling me to send them. >> that is scary stuff. that is scary stuff. >> not difficult to do. >> you can see that he expected the e-mail like that from priebus and out of the realm of possibility so he responded. >> they were susceptible but what about the cyber security. >> meanwhile, the white house is looking to iron out its message. will a change in staff help the president push his agenda.

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president trump actually dictated that misleading initial statement about don junior's meeting with a russian lawyer. let's skaus a let discuss all of this. the gentlemen, great to see you. dan, you sent a funny tweet out about the swiftness of the rise and fall of anthony scaramucci. you say unfortunately for the mooch, the minimum tenure to get invited to the reunion is three weeks. he did not make that mark. what do you think about how amazingly rapidly all of this has happened? >> well, i think i first if my mind, as was thinking about general kelly taking over one the questions was going to be whether he would fire scaramucci, who had committed multiple fireable offenses in a short period of time and was also just a distracting presence within the white house staff. the you just simply can't call a new yorker reporter and trash

the president' chief of staff. i think that's a good sign for general kelly. second, it is a -- it shows why you can't just hire a random cable television pun dit from wall street. you have to have a profession with experience. the question is are they going to be able to hire someone with that experience to take over. >> jason, before i let you talk about how you see the agenda moving forward i want to read a tweet in are president trump back in h 2012. he was not impressed with president obama's string of three chiefs of staff. so here's what president trump wrote. well then, donald trump. three chiefs of staff in less than three years of being president. part of the reason why barack obama cannot manage to pass his agenda. i'm no mathematician, but three chiefs of staff in three years versus two in six months, you're

thoughts? >> well, alice si think it's apd oranges. i think it's a good thing. general kelly has made it clear he's the biggest boss we've seen so far. and i think he's going to get things in order. i think it couple things are going to help the white house get back on track. number one, i think as they move the issue into tax reform. we saw treasury secretary chooef chief talk about the tax reform bill. i think that's going to help president trump. the economic numbers are fantastic, 2.6% growth last quarter. as you talked about a dow that's approaching 22,000. these are fantastic numbers. when the president is talking economy he's in the a winning spot. i think also as general kelly puts in his people and discipline that's going to help the president. the my recommendation on this

front is they're moving into tax reform. i would say go keep sean spicer around for the tax reform. i think he's the person that's been working on this rollout and you already have him in place. he knows the president and is loyal to the team. i if were general kelly, i would talk to sean and say he should stay around. >> before you were in this role as communications director and you know president trump and the team, do you think general kelly is going to shelp him rein in te twitter habit. >> i think also, in talking about people who have known him, he's not someone who i have had the opportunity to work with closely for a longer stretch. >> but what is the best structure for the twitter happened? we're just monitoring this morning and he has not tweeted which is notable. so, seriously, in all seriousness, do you think

general kelly, as chief of staff will say you into ed to curtail that. >> i think what he would be smart to do, from the communications recommendation is say, mr. president, you have a unique ability here to go around, to go through the media to get your message across when you're talking about your issues, when you want to make sure you get your story out completely unfiltered, that's the best way to do it. certain points you do want to go and pick that fight. certain things you know the media is not going to give you a fair shake. but look, general kelly is going to put in the pebest structure going to work. >> about the new reporting this morning of washington post saying it was president trump on air force one who dictated the message about don junior's meeting. it was a misleading message. that meeting may have ended up talking about adoption which is just a substitute for sanctions but that's not how it was sold

to don junior. as communications director, whoever fills that slot, why do they put these things out in piecemeal? why is it first a muddled message about what the meeting was. then is turns out it was a russian lawyer and research on hillary clinton. then not just with her. actually there were eight people. also a lobbyist. i mean how does that serve the president and his agenda? >> it doesn't. it violates the most basic rules of communications. get the story out. get the whole story out and out as soon as possible. don't take your pain in measures three days in a row. get it all out in a row and don't purn your credibility belying about something that's going to be proving to be a lie within days. i'd say a couple things. one, we should not cross over

the fact that the president of the united states overruled his legal team, communications team to put out a knowingly false statement. that is a big deal. >> well a misleading statement. >> it's more than just misleading, because we know what the meeting was actually about. if they had thought about it for more than two seconds they would know they would be caught within 24 hours. it's almost an argument for why reince priebus had to go. if no one can stand up to the president and tell him do not do this and here it why and convince him not to do it, that's a huge problem for the functioning of the white house. they put the president -- or maybe put himself in a position of great political and legal risk by allowing him to do that. if there's no grownup who can say do not do this, it doesn't matter who the chief of staff is. >> we shall see what effect general kelly has on.

jason, dan thank you very much. following a lot of news for you. talk to one of the reporters that broke that bombshell report in the washington post. let's get right to it. >> i wasn't involved in the statement drafting at all. nor was the president. >> new report finds the president personally dictated the initial misleading statement about his son's meeting with the russian lawyer. >> it could be evidence of a pattern of obstruction of justice. >> donald trump's legal team is failing him, staff. >> special counsel going to get to the bottom. >> look, the president definitely felt that anthony's comments were inappropriate. >>