for another campaign event. we have it all covered. let's begin with cnn's sara murray live at the white house. this new poll suggests the base ain't enough, sara. >> reporter: that's right. what trump is doing is continuing to make this play for this core group of supporters who landed him here at the white house. as you pointed out, he's headed to west virginia tonight. his new chief of staff, john kelly, made a call to jeff sessions, a favorite of conservatives to say, look, your job is safe, all this on top of this new immigration plan the president threw his support behind yesterday. >> reporter: president trump endorsing proposed legislation to slash legal immigration in half over the next decade and shift the country to a so-called merit-based system. >> this competitive application process will favor applicants who can speak english, financially support themselves and their families and demonstrate skills that will contribute to our economy.

>> reporter: the rollout of the bill accompanied by a combative press briefing. senior policy adviser stephen miller facing off with cnn's jim acosta about whether the policy is in line with american values. >> the statue of liberty says give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses. it doesn't say anything about speaking english. >> the statue of liberty is a symbol of liberty and lighting the world. it's a symbol of american liberty lighting the world. the poem you're referring to was added later, not part of the original statue of liberty. >> a line of questioning that quickly turned personal. >> this whole notion of they have to learn english before we get to the united states, are we just going to bring in people from great britain and aws trail gentleman. >> this shows your cosmopolitan violen violence. jim, that is one of the most insulting and ignorant things you've ever said. for you, that's still a really -- the notion you think

this is a racist bill is so wrong. >> reporter: the controversial plan also sparking fierce debate in congress. >> to take all the green cards and put them in one in the economy is just i think ill advised. i can't support that. >> reporter: the growing riff between president trump and his own party also on display wednesday when the president reluctantly signed the russia sanctions bill away from the cameras before slamming congress's veto-proof bill as seriously flawed and unconstitutional, claiming that he can make far better deals with foreign countries than congress. senator john mccain striking back, noting, i hope the president will be as vocal about russia's aggressive behavior as he was about his concerns with this legislation. it comes as the president's approval numbers hit a new low and mounting credibility issues are straining his political capital. the white house conceding that two phone calls the president recently touted with the president of mexico and the boy scouts actually never happened. >> specifically said he received

a phone call from the president of mexico -- >> they were actually -- they were direct conversations, not actual phone calls. >> so he lied, he didn't receive a phone call. >> i wouldn't say that's a lie. that's a pretty bold accusation. the conversations took place. they just simply didn't take plaps over a phone call. he had them in person. >> reporter: as for the president's claim that the boy scouts called to tell him last week's appearance was the greatest speech that was ever made to them, the press secretary said this -- >> multiple members of the boy scout leadership following his speech there that day congratulated him, praised him and offered quite -- i'm looking for the word -- quite powerful compliments following his speech and that's what those references were a about. >> reporter: the boy scouts have denied that there was any actual phone call commending the president on his speech. in fact, the leadership of that organization apologized after the president spoke to the group

saying he politicized what was supposed to be a non-political event. back to you guys. >> sara, thank you very much. let's discuss this with our panel. we want to bring in cnn senior political analyst ron brownstein, cnn political director david chalian and politico.com senior washington correspondent anna palmer. great to see all of you. ron, let's dive into the numbers and get into the nitty-gritty of these numbers. i know that's your specialty. what jumps out at you? his approval rating is at its lowest, gone down from 40% in june to now 33%. but there's all sorts of other interesting nuggets in here. what do you see? >> the quinnipiac poll is at the low end of what we've seen, but all moving in the same direction and all in the same ball park. what's striking, alisyn, here, not only the overall deterioration, but the deterioration among the groups that have been central to his victory in 2016 and electoral commission. in the quinnipiac poll he is net negative among non-college whites, the group that gave him a higher share of their vote

that they gave to any i understand cat since ronald reagan in 1994, also net negative to older americans, when you look at both of those groups what you see is a significant increase in the strong disapproval which is what is coming up. look at people from 50 to 64. when he took office in january in the quinnipiac poll, 26% strongly disagreed, now that's doubled to 55% among non-college whites, up to 43% from where he started. it is probably not a coincidence, if those were the two groups that would have been among the biggest losers in all of the republican health care plans which are really tough on older working adults, two-thirds of everybody in the country 45 to 64 is white. i think it is also, alisyn, not a coincidence that as you see this decline, that the president has moved right over the past two weeks on so many social issues, from transgenders serving in the military to the speech on police brew kalt to yesterday's double feature of

the 50% cut in legal immigration and the revelation that the justice department is looking at attacking affirmative action. i think this is an attempt to restore on cultural grounds voters that he has been drifting away from him on economic grounds. >> david chalian, if that is the what, the raw scores on the numbers, what is the why? what do you think the analysis that comes out of this says as to why the president is seeing this softening and support? >> i actually don't think this is very difficult. when you don't get stuff done, the country doesn't seem to be pleased with your job. i think it's quite simple. when you are the president and a republican and you control the house and the senate and you're in the oval office and this is a long time coming, you want all those levels of power and you're unable to deliver, you're going to get bad marks. i completely agree with what ron is saying about what we've seen in the last week to ten days, sort of the bannon strategy i would argue here, of the push to make sure you rekindle the base.

one of the other numbers inside this poll that i think is going to set off real alarm bells in the white house is the support among republicans. he's at 76% approval among his own party. that's a danger sign, that is getting down to a place where republican leaders are going to be quite concerned if that number keeps going down about just how much of a weight he might be on the party going into next year's midterms. >> anna, david is right about legislation, but chris just wrapped up a segment with an "atlantic" writer about all the things the president has accomplished quietly, maybe behind the scenes, these are in terms of executive orders, in terms of sort of rolling back some environmental regulations, this is getting out of paris, this is border crossings being down. i hear from his supporters all the time they think he is getting a lot of stuff done. i'm wondering how washington is

responding to that. >> certainly -- i saw that piece as well. he's done stuff in terms of executive orders and thrown some red meat to the base here, as david was just saying. i actually think in the capital, there is growing concern, particularly among republican leaders about what this means for 2018. lawmakers are nothing if not focused on their own self preservation in terms of re-election. as much as donald trump continues to do things they don't feel will help them get elected, i think you'll see them start to part ways, whether that's on russian sanctions and how he approaches russia. you say lyindsey graham and others are very concerned about that. what they want to know is when is tax reform going to happen, infrastructure reform, that they can bring back to their voters and say, look, we did get something done, you should reelect me, put me back in office in 2018. >> ron, how big a deal are the personal numbers? i've never seen a 62, no, you're not honest, before number in a

major poll. does this resonate or is the don still teflon when it comes to that assessment. >> i never thought he was teflon. the only time you see the 62 number or something like it is the person he was running against in 2016, hillary clinton. in many ways, we're seeing donald trump standing next to himself as opposed to standing next to someone the public had substantial doubts about. when you look at the weakness among college educated white voters, for instance, he's much lower than a republican president usually is. this may be a more accurate reflection of his natural waterline with those voters when you take away the backdrop of their concerns about hillary clinton. let me add one last point. historically as david knows, political strategists look at strong approval and strong disapproval as a gauge of who is likely to vote in the midterm. at this point, the share of americans, a majority of americans say they strongly disappro disapprove, more than double the share that strongly approve. that numbers has been going

down. the tension here is historically republican constituencies vote more in the midterm, older whites than democratic constituents. those democratic landing constituents are extremely negative on trump. whether that changes the historical turnout patterns will help determine who is holding the house in 2018. >> let's move from polls to policies. senator david purdue and tom cotton proposed this immigration overhaul that would slash legal immigration over the next decade by 50% and the white house supports it. now, there's also all sorts of senators who say this would cripple their states. so does this stand a snowball's chance in hell? >> it will certainly stand a snowball's chance in hell in generating a lot of conversation. getting legislation to the president's desk for him to sign on this seems like a remote possibility to me at the moment with the way things are stacked up in congress.

but what you're going to see here is also again, not unlike a little bit of what we saw in health care, you're going to start seeing divides within the republican party, within the majority party. you saw lipid say graham in sara murray's piece, the more tea party wing of the republican party, to ron's point about the non-college whites. this kind of proposal can en liven the core base of trump's support in many ways. this speaks to some of their most heartfelt concerns about economic pressure on them and their neighbors. it's not this will be rejected out of hand. it's not that this may even be politically smart for the president to go down this road in terms of enlivening that base of support. but it is something that divides his own party which is why i think it's difficult to see it getting to the president's desk. >> anna, do you think this is

about the numbers? we know economists surveyed by the washington post don't think it would help the economy. we know what the data reveals, we know the jobs that most immigrants take are ones that americans will not take and if you talk to the growers and service industry, these lower-skilled jobs, they're jobs we need them to fill. you ask donald trump, he just made a request to hire more foreign workers and they were not i.t. specialists. we know what the data is about. is this another pitch to the base, questioning the promise of america, questioning our diversity as our strength and defining or redefining who we want to be in this country? >> i think two things are at play here. one, this is not surprising that donald trump came out this way. this is something he campaigned on heavily during hiss campaigning. this is another way -- as david pointed out, it's very unlickly this will happen in congress, that they'll get another bill to

his desk to sign. this is another way for him to say washington doesn't work, i'm trying to get things done. once again, we need to drain the swamp, washington is broken. >> chris, one thing. what it means for american values, even in the interest of trump voters, this is very questionable policies. 80% of americans are white. we're adding 40 million white seniors over the next 30 years. the net growth in the workforce would be zero which means we'd be asking the workforce to support 40 million more seniors, which would translate into higher social security or medicare taxes. 80% of today's seniors are white, they're voting republican. if you limit immigration, you put more pressure, more strain on the programs they rely on now and in the future. >> panel, thank you very much. arizona sessions jeff flake is under fire for calling out president trump. he's also receiving praise with

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we're starting to see a change. for a long time the gop, the elected officials in that party have been quiet. they haven't spoken out, no matter what the president has said or done. now we do hear some speaking out. more importantly, we see others working together with the other party, the democrats for bipartisan solutions on issues like health care. some of the harshest criticism is coming from republican senator jeff flake. he's got a new book out. the white house is criticizing him for attacking the president. take a listen. >> i think senator flake would serve his constituents much better if he was less focused on writing a book and attacking the president and passing legislation. >> senator flake is the author of "conscience of a conservative." he joins us now. senator, good to have you on the show. what do you make of the response from the white house? >> this book is about the state of conservatism. it includes discussion of this president that starts much

before, during our time before this administration came in. you know, members of congress are not rubber stamps. sometimes i agree with the president. sometimes i don't. >> what do you make of the idea that, if you take on the president on any level, you must expect to be attacked? are you comfortable with that? do you think that's the right dynamic? will it quiet your criticism? >> there's always back and forth. i should note when i came to congress in 2001, i opposed president bush's first initiative, no child left behind. the prescription drug benefit i opposed. i still get along with president bush and we still work together. president trump named a great supreme court justice, neil gorsuch. he's done good things on regulatory policy. there's some things that i think are not conservative. thaels what the book is about. some of that has to do not with policy, be u with demeanor and comportment and some of the things the president has said. we in the senate have to work

across the aisle. the rules require us to. we need 60 votes for just about anything and we can't do that. if we continue to ascribe the worst motives to our opponents or call them names, it doesn't work and it doesn't allow us to pass conservative legislation if we do that. >> why do you think we're seeing this change now? not just you, but we're seeing other republicans speak out when the president says something that's outrageous or unusually insulting, we're hearing more about it because for a long time -- we're still not hearing it from mcconnell or from ryan, not hearing it from the leadership. you are hearing it from others. why the shift? >> i think what we want as conservatives, we want to enact conservative policy. it's increasingly difficult to do, like i said, if we just blame the other side and call them clowns or losers. that just doesn't work when you work with the other side to pass legislation. it's very difficult in the senate, like i said, to move any

legislation unless it's bipartisan or you have some support, and we can't do that if we continue to blame the other side and not work with them at all. >> the president blames you guys specifically for not getting health care passed. he puts it on you. your promise to repeal and replace. he inherited it. you guys couldn't get the vote done even though you have the numbers. what do you make of the responsibility and the accountability for the president in this health care process? >> well, the big burden is on the house and the senate. we're the ones that have the -- we're supposed to vote it out. so i think a lot of that blame is certainly appropriate. it's a lot easier when you work with the administration on something and when you have a good working relationship. that hasn't been quite as close or as good as we'd like it to be, but it is the congress's responsibility. it's the president's responsibility to sign legislation or reject it. >> would the flakes have made

the cut with the president's new immigration proposal? >> what i've done -- i participated in the bipartisan immigration reform bill a couple years ago. we did move a lot of the family-based visas to so-called merit-based visas. i think it's appropriate to make that kind of shift. having said that, we still left a good number of family-based visas and did not cut the overall numbers. while i agree we ought to move in the direction of some of the other countries like australia and canada in terms of merit-based visas. the overall cut, this would cut it to habit half of our legal immigration, just isn't the right direction for the economy. >> right. but you have two different issues here. you have a values issue which matters. that's why i was asking you the question about your ancestry which i'll get back to, and then you have the economic one. low-skilled labor matters. the jobs, supply and demand suggests heavily, the jobs that the immigrants get are the jobs

that americans don't want, won't do. you talk to your growers, pickers, you talked to donald trump who asked to hire more foreign workers in one of his service businesses. that's what they're doing. they're not stealing american jobs. to suggest that's the basis of this policy is inaccurate, is it not? >> we know very well in arizona in particular, the value of migrant labor. i grew up on a ranch in sno snowfla snowflake, arizona. i grew up working next to migrant labor. i always felt they were making america better, and we are better off because of their hard work. so i've been very supportive of immigration reform that first secures the border, and if we have interior enforcement, but that we have a humane and generous mechanism for those who have crossed the border illegally simply to support their family and haven't committed criminal acts other than crossing the border and

also to have robust temporary worker programs to allow us to have the labor we need to benefit our economy. so i very much agree that we are far better off because of migrant labor. and also i have a chapter in there about some doctors nah saved my father-in-law. they came from majority muslim countries, that under the current travel ban, they probably wouldn't be here. so i think we ought to look -- as republicans, i hope we are always welcoming of immigrants. >> so what do you make of the notion of the president's senior policy adviser, steven miller, brushing aside the new close suss poem and the words as being added on later to the statue of liberty as if our huddled masses and those yearning to be free, that that's not really a core principle for america's invitation to the world. do you believe that? >> i believe, and my book is a

lot about traditional conservatism along the lines of ronald reagan, his second inaugural address where we talked about what he saw america as, the shining city on the hill, and that if if we obviously couldn't have open borders, we shouldn't have, but we should have doors that swing wide for those that want to come here. that's the kind of america that i think we have had and should have in the future. >> senator, i appreciate you coming on. about the book, it will be interesting to see what the spirit of cooperation and the spirit of pushback and checking power in the executive yields. what do you see coming on the horizon? do you think we'll see some proposals on health care, maybe even bipartisan ones that move health care in the right direction, making it better where it is now weak? >> i wanted to keep the reform alive in added this morning. more than 200,000 arizonans will

wake up without health care. they paid the fine but can't afford a policy. we desperately need reforms that will help them out. but we've reached the limits of what we can do as one party. i think last week demonstrated that. so we're going to be working across the aisle. the committees will start to work and hopefully we'll have a product that we can actually sign that will make the situation better. >> we know, senator, you were at the shooting at the baseball practice. we rebel your bravery after that. do you think that changed anything, reminded people of the fragility of life, what really matters down there in washington, on just a human level, what you talk about in terms of comportment and decency? >> i sure hope so. i just remembered thinking, as soon as the firing started, when he was spraying gunfire all over the field, i remember looking at

the dugout and seeing the gravel pitch up when the bullets were hitting it. i had the thought that seemed to last a while, us? why? why here? i talk about in the book how a gunman can look out on a field of a bunch of middle aged members of congress playing baseball and see the enemy. it doesn't say good things about where we are as a country and that we've come to such a point that there's such vitriol that these kind of things can happen. >> no question, it's a terrible way to get a reminder that our interconnectedness, that what separates us is nothing compared to what holds us together. thank god you survived. we talked to mo brooks about the same thing, the bravery that day. hopefully it does serve as a reminder to listen to our better angels. senator flake, thank you very much for being with us. good luck with the book.

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the president's approval ratings hitting a new low this morning. there's a new quinn in that case partial poll showing only 30% of americans approve of the job the president is doing. this morning, also, there's a new plan for immigration. ana navarro and scott jennings, great to see both of you. you're both republicans so i'm interested in this new part of the new quinnipiac poll. after the election, it was in the high 90s. today, among republicans, his approval rate is 76%. still quite high, scott, but it has dropped. to what do you attribute this?

>> you have to remember during the campaign trump never really got much out of the low 80s among republicans. but on election day he got 90% of republican support. ultimately republicans did come home to trump. now republicans have returned back into the high 70s, around 80% depending on the survey you look at. so the white house needs to look for ways to bring those folks back home. not an election to aim towards, so the ways you would do that would be to score legislative victories, to get the white house under control, handle a crisis, the things that would end kate you're following a republican agenda. right now i think that's what the white house needs to do, pass some bills, look like they ierp getting some things done. >> ana, why do you think he's dipped with republicans? >> alisyn, i think there's something psychological in people's minds to six months. we're now more than six months in his presidency and he hasn't changed. he keeps up the deranged twitter rants, lying and making stuff up

out of thin air. yesterday we learned he's having phone calls with imaginary friends. he keeps attacking republicans like jeff sessions, susan collins, lisa murkowski. he keeps not taking ownership of things like health care. he keeps being inappropriate. we see nothing but drama out of the white house until john kelly got named. the russia story keeps deteriorating credibility of this white house and trump world, and six months have gone by. i think most republicans were willing to give him aness cha, wanting to see him succeed and thought, let's give him six months to get his sea legs. six months have gone by and people are getting impatient. that i ear now six months closer to re-election, he's gone through 1/8 of his term and continues being the same crazy guy that was the candidate. >> scott, what do you think of this part of the poll, about his credibility. 62% of respondents do not find

president trump honest. >> well, he suffered on honesty and trustworthy ratings during the campaign as well. in fact, both candidates did. he did didn't come in with a reservoir of support on that metric. further eroding the credibility of the president and the white house, but there are ways to get this back. i think we're six months in and people are starting to get a little concerned. there's also 3 1/2 years to go in this first term, so there's time for them to recover. the real political question is how does this impact the midterms. i have been postulating since november that the ultimate issue for republican voters is, are you fulfilling the promises you ran on that caused us to give you the majority of washington and congress and give you the white house. right now i think that's principally where republican voters are concerned, we didn't pass health care, we're working on tax reform, but we're not there yet. are you going to deliver on this agenda? if they start to do that, i think the numbers will come up.

>> okay. let's talk about policy, in particular immigration and whether or not this is delivering on what americans want. ana, there's a push from david purdue and tom cotton, the president seems to have embraced it or the white house has, to make immigration a merit-based system, let in foreigners who are educated, who are skills-based and who speak english. what's wrong with wanting people to come here who speak our language? doesn't that help assimilation? >> you would be sitting next to an empty chair right now if the only people they threat would be those who speak our language. it would be pretty lonely for you today, alisyn. look, i think we need to have the immigration discussion. practically everybody, no matter where you are on the spectrum agrees the system is broken. you can't do it in this piecemeal way where all you do is address legal immigration and

cut it in half and make it a merit-based system. i think what he's trying to do, what the trump white house is trying to do is what they always do. they are trying to throw a bone. they are trying to send a dog whistle to his base. there is no way that this proposal is going to see the light of day unless the paul ryan i have known for years has a lob bot many and maybe a gender identity change, there's no way he's going to see this pass the house of representatives. it's completely antagonistic to every immigration belief he has had in the past. i don't see people like marco rubio voting in favor of something like that when both his parents came here without speaking english. i don't see people like lindsey graham who has already said he's not going to support it -- so just there you've got more than enough opposition to tell you that this is nothing but something you can wrap dead fish on. >> i'm not going to pursue the

track of why paul ryan would vote for it if he were a woman. i'm going to let that lie for a minute so i can move on to the facts about this, scott. let's just end here, the economists don't like this idea of cutting immigration in half over the next ten years. all sorts of, as ana points out, republicans don't like it. immigrants are good for the economy. there's all sorts of data that supports that they start small businesses, they employ millions of native-born americans. they hadd to the economy. so where's the logic? >> i think the president is being responsive to the campaign that he ran. this is not a secret. this is his view of legal immigration during the campaign, and it is a response to sort of his rhetoric about, we're going to take care of the american workers who have been left behind, who have been forgotten. i think there's a real question about whether this is the actual policy that does that. if you talk to people in agriculture or run hr divisions

at manufacturing plants, the issue is more of, they can't find applicants who can pass a drug test. that's why i think the president's task force on opioid addiction is really important because, if you want to help replenish the labor pool in this country, that may be the right thing, is to try to get people off drugs so when they apply for these jobs, they can get and hold them. i think that's the principle labor issue we're facing right now. >> -- take these agricultural jobs that are desperately needed? >> i have a friend who runs a dairy farm in south central kentucky. he'll tell you finding american workers to apply to milk cows is not easy. they rarely get enough applicants and the applicants they get can't pass a drug test. >> so why don't immigrants help? so immigrants help? >> i agree with you. i think there are a lot of jobs in this country that need to be filled by immigrant labor. my position on this is the white house is doing this because it's

responsive to the kind of campaign they ran. it rings true to people in the midwest where you had a lot of manufacturing plants shuttered. think think immigration labor has hurt job prospects. it's a belief. >> it is a belief but it's not based on fact. that's why we do this segment. it is a belief, but maybe leaders need to disabuse people of that belief that immigrants are stealing jobs rather than technology and modernization. >> i think the last gallup tracking said, about 80% of americans said we either have enough or should reduce the amount of legal immigration. as a polling matter, there is support to the concept of leaving the numbers flat or reducing them. the white house is on some firm ground in rolling out this policy. i agree with ana, i think the concept of this passing the congress is low. >> ana, scott, thank you very much for the debate.

appreciate seeing you. i think feelings versus facts, people feel this way. if you look at the raw data, immigrants are creating jobs in this country. >> there's a connecting thought. you feed people this information and political dogma and make somebody the bad guy, then they start to believe it. the facts don't back it. the simple suggestion is ask yourself if you would be here -- if this were the criteria forgetting into this country for the last several generations, would you be here? we would not be, and yet we've become fairly productive. arguable. so colin kaepernick, he wants to be productive. the quarterback wants to get back on the field. the team talking to the controversial quarterback next in "the bleacher report."

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saying, quote, we are going through a process and we have not made a decision. steve bisciotti has not told us we cannot sign kaepernick, nor has he blocked the move. whoever is making those claims is wrong, unquote. the ravens are interested in signing kaepernick has a backup whose on-field play has diminished since his 2013 season. the team's website says they engaged public opinion about signing the man who created controversy when he protested during the national anthem last season. the question remains, will the ravens or any team take a chance on kaepernick saying his ability to help win out weighs the distraction and hurt the team's bottom line. >> coy, we know you'll keep covering it. thanks so much for the update. what is fox news doing in the wake of its retracted seth rich story? we have the behind-the-scenes scoop of what's going on inside the network amid accusations of a fake news story.

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the suit was filed by a contributor for the network named rod wheeler. he claims a fox news em employee fabricated quotes attributed to him. he also accuses fox news of working with the white house to conduct the story. >> fox news has yet to discipline anyone as far as we know. two months after pulling the fake news story. all of this leaving employees confused and angry. let's discuss the new reporting with brian stelter and david who broke the news about the suit now facing fox. david you broke the news, what is the report from inside fox of what's being done? i mean look. there are rules of journalism. when something's wrong you retract it, apologize, acknowledge and often fire people. what has fox done? >> fox has done apparently very little if any of that. after the story imploded on them in a public way, rod wheeler,

the private investigator at the heart of this in whose mouth it appears to be fabricated by the reporter for fox news who worked on this. he went to jay wallace and the chief lawyer for fox. diane brandy who's been there through the storms. he said look, words were put in my mouth. things were attributed to me in the story and when things went south things were attributing to me explaining to the rich family, the -- they retracted the story. blamed him once more for doing it even though it appears from all the evidence he provides in the lawsuit that they acknowledge these quotes were manufactured. they listened to what he had to say and as of now, so many weeks later, they don't have any concrete evidence that the quotes were fabricated.

reporting takes time to do at times, it doesn't take two months, it doesn't take ten weeks or that kind of kiem to figure out what went wrong. also an anonymous source cited by fox news. if i'm fox news i say to zimmerman tell me who your source was. if they had a source within the fbi who vouched for the information, the idea there was a link between this young killed man and wikileaks, tell me who that source is. mechan maybe we can support the story. we haven't heard that at all. white now i think fox as a lot to do to keep faith with the truth and journalists internally and people like the rich family. they told me this week that the story that fox did on may 16 was as grievous a blow as the day their son was killed. >> they put out a statement

saying they hope this ends it. at the man ed butowsky promised information that would validate his side of the story and offered nothing since that interview. >> why hasn't anyone been disciplined at fox? >> i think it's one of those sweep it under the rug. this happened toward the end of may. this story went away for a while until this lawsuit came up. i think fox maybe thought they could just act like it never happened. this was a big story on fox. and it came in a pivotal time for the president. he had just fired james comey, shared top secret information with the russians. robert mueller was about to be appointed special counsel. the president needed a good news story amid those horrible ones. this was a good news story for him. i ha hate to say that because this shouldn't be a good news story for anybody. this is a pro-trump -- >> you need to say it because of

other allegations in in lawsuit. it wasn't just about what tox wanted to concoct with this donor, but the spicer meeting that happened. and another meeting where they didn't know what it was about but had it anyway and quickly changed to a different topic. only lasted ten minutes. heard that before. and the allegation that the president may have known about this article and advocated for its progress. >> igt roo. you have lawsuits all the time and allegations are made in lawsuits. people say that's one side and we should recognize this here. the this contains an extraordinary level of documentation what people are saying behind the scenes. you have pressure from this fox news person invoking the white house's authority, saying they're aware of this. you've got to get on this. this is made more credible by yes he engineered this meeting april 20 with the investigator with the investigator and sean

spicer at the white house to brief him on this. the spiter tells us and you guys it wasn't a meeting i called. something i did out of a courtesy and at the same time it occurred. when he invokes the white house he says get this on the air. right after jim comey has been fired by the president of the united states. when he says the president has read a draft of the story. in any other white house whether democrat or republican it seem the like an incredible stretch. it seems con -- conspiracy theories. it seem the less plausible. when you see the willingness to engineer the story from the beginning with the reporter involved with this advocate for the president. the it seems less implausible. >> well, look, now there's a lawsuit so now there will be all sorts of things that come to light in terms of discovery and people having to testify about

things like this. the so we will follow this and see where the story goes. next story. let's talk about what tony scaramucci's next move is. >> he has decide ed he was going to go dark. no more. the i guess it's opaque. >> then he talked to you? >> look. -- we talk a lot. i don't think that was the violation of going dark. at the decision that tomorrow he's going to hold a major event where he is on facebook live and using per a scope and all these other broadcast media to go directly to the american people, specifically the trump base and tell them why he was brought in, what he was supposed to accomplish, and how he has been maligned by the media as well as members of both political parties. >> sounds like a show with an audience of one, president trump, that he want the the president to watch. last week was the mooch show.

by the way a fox connection according to your reporting is working with former executive bill schein in order to make this happen. i think this is a is sign that scaramucci in his own mind is announcing a comeback. >> here's an interesting take. he said he and the president discussed he would be a short timer -- not ten days but maybe six to minnine months. to put into practice a memo he came up with. >> that's right. he wanted bet he relations with the press. the there is an excerpt of his memo. he wanted to implement a series of professionalizing initiatives immediately. for example no white house staffer goes home without returning all calls, e-mail the and texts. that's a high order. people may not like our answers but they should be treated respectful respectfully. >> i wonder if he's the best

vehicle to restore civility and trust. >> he has an explanation for that also. rookie mistake. call it whatever you want. he'll say to anybody who asks him, if i knew that i was being taken at the substance of my words as a communicator for the president and the american people, i would not have spoken that way. >> rookie mistake by the guy who's going to lead the communications for the president of the united states. >> you might be more circumspect. >> he wrote the memo the day before he lost the job. i think that was a last gasp attempt to save his job. it has some good ideas. trying to have better relations with the media. the. >> being responsive. there are things like -- it's suggested actually a much more constructive rapport. the. >> i think -- i don't know when the memo was drafted but remember when he was making the pitch to the president, that was part of it.

media strategy isn't working, stop being hostile. >> on that note, gentlemen, thank you very much for all the conversation. we're following a lot of news this morning. let's get right to it. >> i don't think the economy will be well served by cutting the number of immigrants in half. >> i can't understand how anybody wants a pro growth in america -- they can vote with the interest of u.s. workers. >> i don't think it will pass the senate and i will do everything i can to prevent it from passing. >> even the president of mexico called me. >> they were direct conversations. >> i wouldn't say it was a lie. >> he continues to do things like this that cut at the core of his credibility. president trump lashing out at congress after reluctantly signing the russian sanctions bill. >> president putin has done something that nobody else in america could do, unite the congress. >> this is new day with chris cuomo and