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media strategy isn't working, stop being hostile. >> on that note, gentlemen, thank you very much for all the conversation. we're following a lot of news this morning. let's get right to it. >> i don't think the economy will be well served by cutting the number of immigrants in half. >> i can't understand how anybody wants a pro growth in america -- they can vote with the interest of u.s. workers. >> i don't think it will pass the senate and i will do everything i can to prevent it from passing. >> even the president of mexico called me. >> they were direct conversations. >> i wouldn't say it was a lie. >> he continues to do things like this that cut at the core of his credibility. president trump lashing out at congress after reluctantly signing the russian sanctions bill. >> president putin has done something that nobody else in america could do, unite the congress. >> this is new day with chris cuomo and alisyn. >> there she is, lady liberty,
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really a waiving symbol. is that about to change? good morning, welcome to your "new day" thursday, august 3, 8:00 in the east. president trump facing bipartisan backlash over support of a bill that im as to slash legal immigration to american by 50%. english speakers would be favored. >> meanwhile a new national poll haze president trump's approval rating h itting a new low. his credibility now taking hits. the white house says two phone calls he said he took never actually happened. he hopes for a boost from his base with a campaign style rally. another busy zay. >> reporter: apparently when things get tough, the president is going to play to his base, as you said, he's headed to ruby
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red west virginia tonight for a campaign rally. he also had the chief of staff make a phone call to jeff sessions this week assuring sessions a favorite among trum's conservative base that his job was in in fact safe. all of this on top of him throws his support on the controversial immigration plan. shift the country to a so called merit based system. >> this competitive application process will favor applicants who can speak english, financially support themselves and their families, and demonstrate skills that will contribute to hour economy. >>. >>reporter: the rollout of the bill accompanied by a combative press briefing. steve p miller facing off about whether the policy is in line with american values. >> the statute of liberty says give me your tired, poor,
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huddled masses. doesn't say anything about speaking english. >> the statue of liberty is a symbol of american liberty lighting the world. the poem that you're referring to as added later. it's not actually part of the original statue of liberty. >> a line of questioning that quickly turned personal. >> this whole notion they have to learn english before they get to the united states, are we just bringing in people from great britain and australia. >> that is one the most outrageous, insulting ignorant and foolish things uf he ever said and that's still a really -- the notion that you think this is a racist bill is so wrong. >> the controversial plan also sparking fierce debate in h congress. >> to take all the green cards and put them in one end of the economy is just, i think ill advised and i can't support that. >>reporter: the growing rift between president trump and his own party also on display
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wednesday when the president reluctantly signed the russian sanctions bill away from the cameras. before slamming congress's veto-proof bill as seriously flawed and unconstitutional, claiming that he can make far better deals with foreign countries than congress. senator john mccain striking back, noting i hope the president will be as vocal about russia's agris i. behavior as he was about his concerns with this legislation. can comes as the president's approval numbers hit a new low and mounting credibility issues are straining his political capital. the white house conceding two phone calls the president recently touted never happened. >> specifically said he received a phone call from the president of mexico. >> they were actually -- direct conversations, not actual known calls. >> so he lied. >> i couldn't say it was a lie. that's pretty -- bold accusation. it's -- the conversations took place. they simply didn't take place
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over a phone call. he had them in person. >> >> reporter: as for the president's claim the boy scouts called to tell him last appearance was the greatest ever, the president secretary said this. >> the multiple members of the boy scout leadership following his speech there that day congratulated him, praised him and offered quite, um -- i'm looking for the word. le quite powerful compli emted. >>reporter: now the boy scouts have denied a phone call between members of their leadership congratulating president trump or lavishing praise. in fact they put out an apology for president trump's address for the group for politicizing which supposed to be a non-political event. >> what a turn of events, could you have imagined in any other time, sara, the words huddled masses and those that tired
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being dismissed as words added later. the as if they weren't a signature of the invitation to america. let's bring in our panel. ron brownstein. director david chalian and julie pace. ron brownstein, on top of what miller said, kind ever dismissing what america means to the entire world, what do we see in these poll numbers of specific concern? >> look. the if you're talking about the poll numbers, quinnipiac poll probably the lowest but the general trajectory is clear. the striking thing in this survey is the erosion, not only among the groups that were skeptical of him from the beginning, miserable numbers among millennials, minorities college educate the whites but seeing significant erosion even among the groups that were the cornerstone. in 2016 he won a higher share of
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working class white of either party since 1984. the he's now net negative in approval. and strong dits approval among them has moved up to 43%. similarly adults 50 to 64. the look at that. his strong disapproval has doubled since he took office among voters in that age group. and i think it's worth noting that both those blue collar whites and older working adult the were by all analysises the biggest losers. the people were paying attention. you see now this kind of dangerous erosion. one last point, if you look at the overall strong dits approval. 55%. that's more than double. and historically, that strong sentiment has been an important predictor of turnout. >> also his support among republicans. today 76% approve.
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17% disapprove. that's obviously down from inauguration day. i remember seeing polls i think were 90% approval among republicans and certainly some at the time he only had 3% disapproval. what's happening there? >> that is a real warning sign. the it gets to what ron is saying about pieces of the coalition. it seems like -- again, his most die hard supporters, when he goes to west virginia tonight you're going to see folks there who are going to love him but maybe he can't stand on fifth avenue and shoot someone and not have any effect. there is this notion that 76% number among republicans, every operative i speak to that's working on the mid term election, that's a danger sign for them. that's where they begin to start figuring out strategies with the potential of president trump being a negative weight on the rest of the ticket that is actually on the ballot in november 2018.
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le right when you start dropping bow low 80% approval in your own party that is when folks get more concerned about their own fortunes than necessarily the whole. >> things that are true people find them outragious and offensive. most of the time they find what he says to not be true. 62% say he is not honest. >> it's a pretty astounding figure there. the best defense that you hear from trump supporters and folks in the white house is that the numbers were pretty similar during the campaign and he still won. i don't know if that's a great defense but it's what they lean on there. le i think there is a different between how americans view the character as a candidate and president. once you're president, the things you're talking about and trying to gain credibility with the american people for are things like their safety, economic security of the
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country. we're talking about bigger picture things than the types of insults that you might throw at a political rival during a campaign. so i am not sure saying say, just because the numbers look bad now, they were bad in the campaign and he still won is a great position to be in as president of the united states. >> let's talk about the policy now. about immigration. there are a couple of senators who want to cut legal immigration in half over the course of the next ten years. the president seems to be embracing this policy. . america first, give jobs to americans, all of that kind of rhetoric despite the fact that the vast majority of kmieconomi say immigrant the contribute to our economy. 18 kmi they said et' terrible idea to cut legal immigration. but it also seems it wouldn't pass. the there are a enough people like lindsey graham who say it
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would deaf state their state. so, is this president trump's just being able to say what he thinks the base likes to hear and he'll get props and credit from the base for just even talking about it and sort of channelling them. >> it is part of a systematic elevation of tour alley polar rising issues, the ban on trands gender soldiers, seemingly welcoming of police brutality on friday. a up can many point the on the immigration. last time they tried this was 1996 and only got 20 votes in the senate and among those voting no were mitch mcconnell and john mccain. of just file that away. the question to me, really, is whether this even benefits the people it is targeted at. the fact is over the next 35 years, the estimates are we're
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going to add nearly 40 million seniors, virtually all the project the growth in the work force is from immigrants or their children frm the estimates have been done by the project that shows under this bill there would be no net growth in the work force, which means that the same amount of workers would have to bear the burden of roughly 40 million more retire res. what that translates into is either social security and medicare benefits or much higher taxes at a time when 80% of seniors are white. what you're talking about is putting more strain on the programs that trump's own voters are relying on if you go down the road that tom -- they're talking about. it is impossible to get to 60 votes in the senate. i doubt this would gret a majority. if you look at the last time they were only able to get 20 senators to go along. >> it's interesting. the president is tweeting saying business is looking better than
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ever. continuing to get rid of costly and unnecessary regulations, business will grow. not in you have this bill become low because you're going to loose the necessary low skill labor base you can't fill with american jobs. your business owners know that best. the brown steen, chalian, pace. who's people would have made it under these criteria? would all of you be here? did your ancestors have money to pay for health care? h were did they all speak english upon entry? how many of you? that's a simple test of what miller was doing on that podium, brushing away as words added later the promise of the poem. 9 president during the campaign. i love the uneducated. but you can't come in h. the david chalian, how big is this? >> is what i think steven miller was doing there when he did sort
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of push aside that larnler values conversation that jim acosta was trying to engage him on, he was saying, no, no, no we are putting this national agenda first. this is it part of how we see america first and what that means. it's in policies like this. this, again, as with so many things, time and again in the last six and a half months with this administration, i always scratch my head and say what is it, where, here are they trying to appeal to 50 % plus one? where are they trying to bring in a majority of the country to their position? time and again i think this administration fails that test. the you can keep up with rhetoric and policies that are geared at what 33% may like, but then you are going to go down in history as a failed president. the. >> panel thank you very much for all of your perspectives. another big move, the president signing the sanctions
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ch's authority to negotiate. congress could not negotiate a health care bill after seven years of talking. by limiting the executive's flex exhibit this makes it harder for the united states to strike good bills for the american people and will drive china and north korea and russia close together." >> he serves on the foreign relations and health committees. >> thanks for having me, chris. >> so is the president right you forced him to sign an unconstitutional piece of legislation. the. >> chris, im proud the president signed this piece of legislation. he listened to the american people. as he pledged he would. the pass the overwhelming out of both the house and senate. 98-2. the this is legislation that will assist in h future negotiations with the russians to ensure that we correct their bad behavior and i think it was the right thing to do. >> the reporting was resoundingly that part of the consensus, the 98-2 that you
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refer to, was dissatisfaction and you guys wanted to make a move to check the poir of this executive. >> do you agree? h. >> i campaigned on a platform ensuring we fulfill our response tugs nal responsibility the as a unique distinct branch of government. whether it deals with sanctions, policies or use of military force, it's essential congress does its job. >> next subject. the immigration bill that the white house is behind creating a mer ret-based criteria, do you sport it. >> i haven't read it. i am aware of the press release. i think we have a lot of work to do in a bipartisan fashion here in congress. i've always thought if it we can
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secure the border first which is a humanitarian and national security imperative, that's going to make the rest of the reform a lot easier. as a marine i was stationed on the southern border. i know how to get it secure through a variety of different mechanisms. it will just come together. take care of that. then move on to things dealing with the labor market which i think this new bill is designed to address. >> we'll get back to that. have to switch back to russia for a second. rour relationship is at an all time and very dangerous low. you can thank congress, the same people that can't give us health care. response? >> my response is it is at an all-time low. vladimir putin has grabbed criminal mi criminal -- crème mia. as sasser baiting a horrible humanitarian and national security crisis there. so it's important we stay
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vigilant with respect to russia. it's also important congress continues to act boldly on other areas. contemplating sending more forces and becoming further engaged in different areas of the world and so congress need the to speak with the unified and loud voice with respect to those matters, including the authorization and use of military force. the i recently drafted and perhaps we can get into that issue. >> let's do exactly that. at the aumf. it's from 2001. the you could argue this is one of the most obvious abdy occasions of pour we've seen. congress has been letting presidents take their power of declarations of war in effect for a long time. as you know very well for serving your country and thank you for that service -- the world is so different now than it was in 2001 and what we were trying to protect against with that last vote on that aumf.
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do you believe there is the courage in congress now to take up the issue and own the decision of when we go to war? >>en why, i think a number about of republicans and democrats have demonstrated the constitutional fortitude to not just speak but act on this issue. i command tim cain and jeff flake for having produced a very thoughtful authorization for the use of military force. i produce my own that provides greater discretion to the commander in chief to fight and win battles and ultimately keep the american people safe and secure. this is a long war unlike previous wars we've fought so from time to time it's essential congress, the people's branch reaffirms our support for the men and women in the field and their families who are putting everything on the line to keep us safe and secure. aside from the legal issuers, that's what this is about. it's a strong message of support. secretary mattis has indicated
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it's not only appropriate, it's essential that congress shows we support people not just by providing military equipment, and ensuring military is sufficient funded but also indicated in an unambiguous way that her' behind them in this ongoing fight against radical islamic extremism. >> decision ises have consequences, we just lost two more lives in afghanistan. >> that's right. >> you guys in congress should have to vote. you should have to say you're behind it in these decisions and there's accountability for them should you not. >> we should. the we should. which is precisely i put forward an aumf. under the president's article 2 authority as commander in chief of our forces he has the ability in times of imminent danger to engage in limited conflict. but i think that presidents in generations past have overstepped those bounds. the congress has delegated its
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responsibility to the executive branch and it's time to be more assertive. that's why i introduced an aumf. i think we have an opportunity in this environment right now where there's a heighten the emphasis in recent days on renewing bipartisanship to come together to support our troop the around this issue. >> i'm glad to hear you say that, senator. this talk of bipartisanship, it couldn't be more welcome to americans. at least from what we're hearing from your audience. it's time to get things done. thank you for your service and being with us. >> chris, that is not the only plan. congress is it considering on authorizing military force. former democratic senator jim king joins us next to explain his bipartisan proposal. ♪
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can't even give us health care. joins offing us now democratic senator tim cain. the good morning, senator. >> great to be with you. thanks. >> are you and your fellow lawmakers to blame for the u.s. russian relations right now. >> that presidential tweet is relick douse. the relationship is at a low because vladimir putin is invading sovereign nations, attacking american mon ten nation gran french elections, is violating missile treaties and doing all kinds of negative things. for the president to not call out russia on that and say the relationship is low because of congress, why does he keep thinking he needs to be vladimir putin's defense lawyer and take pressure off him and not call him out for bad behavior and pretend it's congress's fault is a head scratcher. >> why do you think he does that. >> it's clearly deeply insecure
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about the ongoing russia investigation that's being conducted by the special prosecutor mueller and the investigation that the intelligence committee especially here in the senate is conducting. these investigations clearly he finds them very threatening so he's always pushing back against them one way or the other. it's kind of a -- i got something to hide attitude, if you've ever dealt with your kids and you asked hem who took the cookies out of the jar and they come up with a million explanations, usually they've got something to hide. the investigation will get to the bottom of it. but the president, can you just count on him to try to deflect attention away from russian misdeeds at every opportunity. the for him to say it's congress's fault that the relationship is at a low point is just flat wrong. >> let's talk about mairhealth . there's a lot of talk that people on capitol hill are open to some sort of compromise,
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bipartisan compromise. we hear a lot of talk about that. but i want to test you on what really you would be willing to give up to help work with republicans. as you know, you're on the committee that is trying to tackle all of this. you're chairman, he has some ideas. let me see which ones you're cup table. funding he would like for the cost sharing subsidies this is the one et present doesn't like. this is where it sounds like president alexander is crossing the divide to agree with democrats. >> and it was what the law required. there's an argue. is it required or is it vol unteu untear. we need to do in a. >> republicans say a court decided that was actually not constitutional or legal. so, there's the debate. reinsurance. the one i want to get to here.
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expanded state waivers. this is interesting. which might include relaxing the essential health benefits. would you go along with this? >> i do think flexibility for states is a good thing. i was a governor so we all think it's a good thing. the what i would be inclined to look at is there are areas where the statute itself says states should have flexibility, but it's turned out when states have applied to hhs to get the flexibility, they've been turned away or it's so honorous they just give up. let's take the flexibility they were nts grassed and make sure they actually have it. if you get into talking about relaxing the essential health benefits, you've got to get into put a proposal on the table and let's look and see what the benefit is that you want to relax and how would it affect people. but i do think many states have a really good argument that they were supposed to have flexibility under the act but in practice it hasn't worked that
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way. we should respond to their concerns on that. the. >> i keep hearing people, no the on capitol hill, outside of the beltway, saying maybe now's the time for single payer. for single payer system. is there any talk of that on capitol hill? >> sure. alisyn i think you're going to see one introduced by senator sanders. he's indicated i think publicly that he wants to. i have a different view. the i want people to have more options, no the fewer. the so i would like to -- this is a longer-term discussion, not the immediate discussion we need to have. the i would like to explore circumstance under which there would be a public option like a medicare option for everyone that you have to buy into. you have to pay a premium that would completely cover the cost of a policy but you could buy into it. if you didn't want to buy into medicare you could buy from aetna or anthem or anybody else. we wouldn't force you to but i think if you provide another
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option it would bring prices down. since medicaid operates in every city in the country you wouldn't have situation where there was no competition. i think what lamar alexander said, we will then try to take the immediate steps necessary to stabilize the individual market place. the let's do something significant but not compre hence tiv. then build and explore bigger options. >> sounds like you are going back to the drawing board but there might be an opportunity for work to be done by republican the want something to show their constituents as well. >> absolutely. >> next topic. this aumf. so i know you have proposed a bipartisan proposal. what do you want to see happen
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with war authorization? so jeff flake and i have an authorization pending. had a really wonderful hearing yesterday with secretaries tillerson and mattis about it to hear the administrations perspective. here's what we would do. authorize action against the non state actors, taliban, al qaeda and isis for five years, have a fairly tight definition of who could be considered an associated group with those three entities. that the president would have to list the group before congress and saying they're connected to the three and engages in hoz tilts against the united states. if the president does that, we can take action against those groups too unless congress disapproves. the we set a specific geography which is not contained in the current authorization. if it needs to be expanded the president is ask for expansion and act unless congress disapproves. the and finally, this expires at the end of five years and for it to be extended there would have to be an affirmative vote of congress. those are the three guardrails.
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none of which exist in the current authorization. there's no time limit, no geographic limit and the definition of associated groups is completely open ended. we had a really good dialogue, democrat the and republicans, jeff flake and i have this proposal. but the nice thing was that secretaries tillerson and mattis, while they maintain, as did the obama administration, the current authorization covers what we're doing, they both said to send a message to our troops, to send a message to allies and adversaries, it would be good for this congress to get back into this 16 years after the 2001 authorization was done. >> okay. thank you for all of information. i think we've talked more about bipartisanship in these seven minutes than a while. >> i hope it rubs off. >> thanks so much. look, it's good. we are hearing it. we just heard it from the republican senator: this is a good thing. no matter what you want you should want them to work
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relationship with russia. >> the u.s. travel ban to north korea will kick in in september 1st. the state department will say exceptions will be made for journ journalists and hiumanitarian workers. >> boy scouts deny they never called him to praise him. white house says they were direct communications. >> ousted communications director anthony scaramucci wants to tell his story in h an on-line event tomorrow. >> for more on the five things to know you can go to cnn.com/new day for the latest. >> so from calls to repeal and replace to a bipartisan fix for obamacare. the can democrats and republicans really come together. one democratic senator gives us her take next. >> but first, what are the best foods to eat after a workout?
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since 1985, selectquote has saved over a million families millions of dollars on life insurance. can republicans and democrats come together to stabilize some of the insurance markets and fix what's broken in the affordable care act? if they can do that, what else is possible. joining us now senator from north dakota. >> so i don't believe you about the bipartisanship. make the case to a skept tick
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where there's actual proof that the left and right may come together. >> let's start out. you had a great segment about what has the president gotten done and you list all these things and a lot of people forgot it. forgot about all those things when they happened. right after that happened because the drama interceded. but let's take a look at what the senate has gotten done. we've repealed no child left behind in the huge bipartisan vote. we were able to amend the toxic substance control act which hadn't been amended since 1970. and so, there are things that actually happen in a bipartisan way. the because they usually happen in a bipartisan way they don't generate a lot of drama. they don't generate a lot of controversy and go along unnoticed. and i've got a grade example. one the most contentious issues we face is carbon constraints and co 2 regulation. right? so i have a bill that literally has sheldon whitehouse in sport and mitch mcconnell.
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>> clean coal bill. >> bill that would provide tax credits for carbon capture out tillization and see questions station. we know we can't reach climate goals. co 2 emission control goals without carbon capture sequestration and outlization. and we know in the cool industry, to survive into the future, we have to be technologically able to do this. so, coming together with different motivations, but all towards the same goal, we've been able to put together a bill. we've almost had that bill pass three times. and i'm looking forward to getting it done this congress. >> what about health care? >> we got off on the wrong foot on headache because the process that was selected was too limiting in terms of what you could do. and we didn't start at the basic question. this is what drives me crazy here. i always say what's the problem
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we're trying to fix. we obviously know that the insurance markets have trouble and that we have a skewed system where younger people, healthier people pay a great deal for health insurance because they're in the same risk pool with older people with more chronic conditions. that's a problem i think we all can recognize and fix together. if we start from the starting point of what's the problem. the health care bill got off on the wrong foot because the problem they were trying to fix was a political problem. i have seen nothing but broad reach across the aisle on what are we going to do to stabilize the narcotimarkets and have a conversation with headache alth >> what about all the republicans who campaigned for years on getting rid of obamacare? that was a non-starter. the president keeps beating them over the head with that promise. >> i think that there was a big
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attempt, obviously, three bills, different structures, they all failed. i think that right now, there is an interest and a concern given the reaction of americans, to what happened in all of this, wildly unpopular bill that they kept trying to promote. the that didn't work. let's work at fixing the problems. it's not -- it's not about rhetoric anymore. it's about health care. let's fix the system and i think there is broad bipartisan support to do that. >> how about the immigration bill that the white house just got behind? h do you think it has a chance of passing and makes the words fr from the statue of liberty something that was just an add-on? >> i think the fact there were only two republican senators announcing with the president when he announced the support for that bill is a pretty telling kind of clue that this probably doesn't have a lot of support.
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i mean they're laying down a marker and i get that. but we passed a very highly regarded and bipartisan bill a couple years ago weren't able to get the house to take it up. the hopefully, now when we acknowledge on our side that we need to do more on border security, i've spent a lot of time on the southwest border. i know what happens down there and i know we can do better. let's acknowledge that. but let's also acknowledge we have a situation in this country where we need to address people who are here who aren't documented but we also need to address our legal immigration system. one thing i was thinking about is that when you watch the olympics and people watch it -- walk in in the parade of nations. there is no nation who is represented by more diversity than the united states of america. i'm always proud when i see that because i believe it's strengthens our country, not weakens it. >> diversity as strength, interconnected and isn't t.
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good stuff. we can all lorng something from this teenager. she's given up her last week of summer vacation to do what? spend time with kids in a local hospital. >> whenever i'd sing with them and dance, they were a whole other person. >> what a great kid. the 16-year-old dresses up like elsa from "frozen." takes time to lift the spirits telling jokes and reading books. >> i love you elsa. the i have poirs. i have powers. >> you know what they're going through. it's really nice to get them to smile and have a good day. >> that's beautiful. they seem to love her. of the. >> we get caught up in the negative. >> even 16-year-olds. i was not volunteering at 16. >> not for that anyway. >> i was a bus girl.
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anyway late night comics takes aim at trump. >> president trump today signed a round. the sanctions against russia to punish them for making him win the election. he's still very angry. they passed with an overwhelming majority. vladimir putin changed their relationship status to it's complicated. >> sources he talked to vladimir putin op the phone right before. that was inappropriate. trump said i agree. i wanted to face time. >> basically, donald trump wants to create what he calls a merit-based system that awards points to green card applicants based on such factors as english ability. yes, immigrants have to learn procedure english like bigly.
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cofee fee, and bing bing bing bing bing. that's funny. >> it is funny. but i'll tell you, it aalso a little scary. we would not be here if this merit based system was in place. our ancestors wouldn't have made the cut. >> absolutely. chris is filling in tonight for don on cnn tonight at 10:00 p.m. >> it is different and good. you know who's happy about anthony scaramucci having his big event? h mario can tone. he's going to be back on the show tonight to show his latest impersonation of scaramucci. >> we'll recap that tomorrow morning. meanwhile tomorrow for cnn news room with poppy harlow. >> great to see you guys, interesting programming. thanks so much. lot of breaking news. let's get to
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