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dealing with russia whatsoever. >> i was looking to hear your finances and family. >> the president can't set red lines for bob mueller. >> if you think there's another shoe to drop, it's going to be a size 18. >> new leaked transcripts sho contentious conversations between president trump and leaders of mexico and australia. >> i am worried about the way this president is conducting foreign policy. >> we need order out of chaos and start firing people. >> this is "new day" with chris kwoem mo. >> good morning everyone welcome to new day. august 4. >> i win the lotter are i this morning. >> you're so lucky. >> take that cuomo. >> we begin with several big developments in the russia investigation. special council problem bert mueller issuing grand jury subpoenas seeking documents and testimony for
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people involved in the meeting between -- >> on the money trail zeroing in h on possible financial ties between russia and the president and his family an associates. it crosses what the president considers to be his led line. the the president blasted the latest developments as a total fab ration. evan perez live in washington. >> reporter: john special counsel robert mueller is following the money as the investigation into russia's meddling into 2016 election enters its second year. cnn has learned new details about what investigators are digging into, including the finances of the president and his family. >> in a clear sign that the russian investigation is advancing, cnn has learned that special council robert mueller has issued grand jury subpoenas.
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seeking both documents and testimony from the people involved, according to a source familiar with the matter. this, as the probe widens with federal investigators exploring the potential financial ties of president trump and associates to russia. the sources tell cnn that final links to offer a more concrete path to any potential prosecution. investigators are looking into possible financial crimes, including some unconnected to the election. for the president, that's going too far. the he's warned that delving into his 's is a "violation." trump has maintained there's no collusion and he has no final ties to russia. >> i can tell you speaking for myself. i own nothing in russia. i have no loans in russia. i don't have any deals in russia. >> reporter: now, one year into that complex probe the fbi has reviewed financial records related to the trump organization. the president himself as well as to his family members and campaign associated.
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cnn is told investigators have combed through the list of shell companies and buyers of trump-branded rel real estate properties and officials familiar with the investigation tell cnn mueller's team has examined the backgrounds of russian business associates. connected to trump dating back to the 2013 misuniverse page gent that trump hosted in moscow. cnn could not determine whether the re-sue has included trump's tax returns. but, even investigative leads that have nothing to do with russia, but involve trump associates are being referred to the specialty council to encourage subjects of the investigation to cooperate. trump's team seeking to limit mueller's investigation. >> the president's point is that he doesn't want the special council to move beyond the
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scope. the president has been very clear as have his accountants and team that he has no financial dealing with russia so i think we've been extremely clear on this. >> reporter: cnn has learned no details about how mueller is running his special council team. experts in investigating fraud and financial crimes. broken into groups focused separately conclusion and obstruction of justice. there is also focus on key targets like paul manafort, and general michael flynn, his fired national security adviser. cnn learned they became more suspicious of manafort. among suspect the russian operatives discussing their efforts to work with manafort. to coordinate information that could hurt hillary clinton's bid for the white house according to u.s. officials. in flynn's case the focus is on his lobbying work for the
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turkish government which he failed to initially disclose as required by law. while both men deny any wrongdoing the approach may offer a template for how the focus by investigators on fine shalt crimes could help gain leverage and cooperation in the investigation. >> and the president's attorney jay sekulow told them the president's outside legal team has not rereceived any request for documentation. any inquiry that goes beyond the mandate specified in h the appointment we would object to. >> thank you very much for all of that joining us now is a guest well versed in special investigations, ken star. the he is a former judge and solicitor general. he was the upt counsel who investigated president clinton. mr. star thank you very much for being here. do you think it's beyond the scope and mission of what it was originally stated to do, looking
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into collusion, possible collusion between the trump campaign and russia? h. >> it's really uncertain. the mandate bob mueller received has some broad language, including related to type language, which tends to open the door. but there are checks and balances the president said here's the red line. but he has a great defense team and what they can do is they can go to first, of course, bob mueller, who i think everyone agrees is a man of great integrity as well as enormous experience, and say i think you've gone too far here. there may be litigation in the courts with respect to the scope of the grand jury subpoena. and then, the defense team can go to rod rosenstein, the department attorney general and say this is far beyond the mandate that you gave him. he's in business only because of your appointment. the so there are checks and balances in the system and those
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haven't been triggered yet. >> let me read you the key line so people know what you're talking about. it included that number 2. the any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation. the now, evan per rez who's broken many details, that they don't think they're anywhere near the outer limits of this. at the financial matters they're looking into, they say, relate to, or arose from this investigation into possible russia ties. it does seem like a fairly wide berth there, judge star, with that statement. any matters that arose or may arise from the investigation. >> it can be read in two ways, three ways. it can be read different ways. i think the gravamen of the original complaint was, was there collusion, to the extent you're moving beyond collusion with russian operatives or russian interests or the russian government itself, and into that
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which doesn't seem to have a direct tie to russia, then these questions are in fact raised. it becomes a litty gabl question that people are going to sidewalk about and disagree about it. i don't think it's clear one way or the other, but i do think it is a certainly a serious matter. when a special council is accused -- and i was accused of that -- of exceeding his or her authority. that's a serious matter because we do not want investigators and pro cuters out on a fishing expedition. >> look, by definition, aren't you always casting a wide net? let's say we've had other lawyers on this morning who have said if donald trump, before he was president, did some sort of business deal, let's say in the 90 z, and it was a real estate deal with some sort of russian millionaire. the couldn't in a find its way for motivation to what's happening in the campaign now?
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>> you used a key word there. you said russian. that's my point. does this relate to russia's activity, which i think we all agree was absolutely unspeakably horrible in the state election efforts and so forth. so the russians are to be condemned and the russian government is to be condemned. the now the question is was there collusion with the trump campaign. so, if the investigation goes beyond the russian mandate and say just look into the financing, of trump tower but no russian connection to it, then the argument is there, as i see it, that the investigation has gone too far. >> just to be clear, what you were saying about yourself is you came under criticism during the clinton investigation. cory lieu endo you ski, who was the president's campaign manager was referring to this the other day. said bill clinton was not impeached over a land deal. it was about lying about monica
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lewinsky under oath. so the argument the that you hear from a lot of people is look, look what happened with your investigation. if started out as one thing and you found instances with you you believe at the president broke the law. >> no. but there was a check and balance there, john. which is the lewinsky phase of the investigation was specifically authorized by the attorney general of the united states. that's the key. the lewinsky phase was not simply something that we thought we should look into. when the information came to us. we went to the attorney general, janet reno, and said here's what we know. or the information that we have. and i think here, we need to have the same kind of check and balance in place. the president has a terrific team of defense lawyers. the they are fantastic. the and they are saying they're going to cooperate. well part of the cooperative mode will be to go to mueller and then rosenstein and say
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you're going too far. the special council has gone too far. it became a political issue in the lewinsky issue but never a legal issue that we'd gone too far. >> since you brought up the president's red line, the you one he he said that would be a personal red line for him. now we know. that's happening. bob mueller, it's been confirmed is dealing with the president's financial dealsings before he was president. if it's crossed a red line for the president, what's his recourse. >> yes. his lawyers then say to bob mueller, you've gone beyond the scope of your mandate. >> is and then it's up to bob mueller to say okay i'll back off or no. i think it is mart of it. >> that's exactly right. they may litigate in the district court. this will all about confidential because of protecting grand jury
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secretsy. it needs to be secret and confidential. this is a stay tuned. we're probably going to have some real battles ahead, but a lot of them may be off camera. >> it's great to have you here because we can get a look behind the scenes at how these information investigations work. phil mudd made the point that subpoenas are issued like this for document the and witnesses, unless the investigators already have information, already have some leads that they're following. the so some broad based fishing expedition might not be fair here. is that something you agree with? you don't think he would be having the grand jury issue these subpoenas unless he was looking for something specific. >> i agree with that. i think there had to be some predicate in bob mueller's mind and he is an extraordinarily a careful lawyer. i've worked with him and served
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along side him under president bush 41. the he's a total professional. you can say mr. mueller we disagree with this expanded scope as we soo it. he will listen to those arguments and make a determination, but i will also say that it's frequently said about grand juries they'll just do whatever the prosecutors want. that's not been my experience. i think it's not the experience of most prosecutors. those are 23 citizens. they are there, asking questions. and the prosecutors are keeping them very well informed or the prosecutors aren't doing their job. >> maybe you can't indict a ham sand wich. >> sa meeting that as far as we know, we don't believe that robert mueller and his investigators even knew about prior to june when this began
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becoming public. already, he's got a grand jury issuing subpoenas, asking for documents and witness on that. >> it means he's doing his job. the it also mean that is the information that the grand jury is finding is going to come from any number of sources including from ed media. let's also not overlook the fact that both the senate intelligence committee and judiciary committee are investigating again. the remember in watergate, the great break through came by virtue of the work sam ir vin and the watergate commercial committee. >> ken star, as you said, stay tuned. thank you very much. for sharing your expertise with us. >> thank you. >> president trump lashing out at the russian investigation. called it a total fabrication. our panel reacts next. when a fire is going on,
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the latest developments in a campaign rally last night. >> the russia story is a total fabrication. it's just an excuse for the greatest loss in the history of the american politics. most people know there were no russians in our campaign. there never were. we didn't win because of russia. we won because of you. that i can tell you. >> all right. our panel is here to discuss. the cnn justice former evan per res rez. laura coats and cnn politics reporter chris cillizza. >> i want to talk to you on something kenneth star just said, the independent counsel investigating bill clinton. ken star says he thinks it's possible that what robert mueller is doing right now might be pushing up against the limbs
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of the mandate provided by the deputy attorney general and perhaps he may need to get permission to expand further. just to be clear, your reporting on this is that the people involved in this investigation right now don't see that problem, have not gone to rod rosenstein to ask to expand it more. they belief this is connected to the original mandate. >> right of the they view this as exactly what they need to be doing. you start in the middle of this investigation. the you start with the central question. le right? which has to do with whether that -- whether or not there was any illegal coordination with the trump administration. you have to look at the finances. from the very beginning one of the peal we talked to in the story we published yesterday said that from the very beginning there's always been a concern about whether or not there was any blackmail possibility by anyone connected to the campaign, and so you have to look at the money. you follow the money to see
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whether or not going back five years, whether it's going back to some real estate deal that someone felt they had something on the president or someone close to him that they could have used to force them to help the russian security services. >> john, of course all of this is bathed in irony, particularly when you bring in ken star and what happened with bill clinton because that game a galloping runaway horse, many peelle felt, of an investigation that started in white water and ended all the way to a blue dress. that's what obviously the trump people fear could happen here. >> right. and you've got republicans who would have been cheering fishing expeditions in the case of ken star now saying this is inappropriate and outside of bounds. obviously where you stand is a matter of where you sit. it was stunning to see ken star in that interview. the he's 0 got more personal expertise than most in this.
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prosecutors and investigators shouldn't engage in fishing expeditions. i think a lot of folks at home think that's -- and all the differences along the way from ken star being a partisan republican, appointed to special prosecutor situation to people the fbi director under clinton and ag allowing if not encouraging that investigate to go forward. there's just an enormous in number of differences. the if that's the standard they're going to have a hard time holding their happeneds up saying stop. >> how does that change this investigation as we know it? what stage is in now? >> well, the grand jury is necessary to be able to wield one of the most effective powers that a prosecutor has or special counsel has. that's subpoena power, access to
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records, documents, access to witness testimony. right now they're trying to obtain documentation about they believed they have. bank records, perhaps land deals perhaps real estate transaction, as you move closer to subpoenas for actual people to testify, it will show you're narrowing in the focus on what potential charms are being explored. they're trying to have it narrowed to the fact they'll have actual evidence to present. remember there's no reel time line for a grand jury investigation. we may be at the stage where they're just trying to use that subpoena power. make no mess take, john, that's extraordinarily powerful to have access to documentation. it also tells you about why sock a low talked about the fact that they haven't seen the document the or requests, they may not receive it. it's the bank, and different
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organizations. >> chris, on to your area of expertise, politics. politically speaking wasn't it smart what he did last night in front of his west virginia rally. they all talk about the russian investigation and they're taking away your votes, you all voted me in. you made this happen. to let people know that somehow, the russian investigation is delegit miedsing them, the regular people because he knows that he won thanks to them. >> yeah. politically smart. i think intellectually some what dishonest. the russian investigation for the average person is amorphous thing out there. don't think donald trump's being totalitily truthful but not sure. the to connect it to democrat the, to connect it to the they donald trump kept saying which is stand in or the media, elite the, establishment, 2krdemocrat
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is smart because it will rally people to his side. they believe fundamentally that donald trump is speaking truth to power. i would say despite evidence to the contrary in terms of his truth telling. that's something that they really get behind. and to connect that to russia, gives it a way to say look, this russia thing is just part of the broader argument. they hate me. can i just make one other very quick point? no one has said russians were involved, worked for donald trump. they were on his payroll. no one has said rouvs in west virginia or ohio or michigan infiltrated. it's creating these vstraw men. he's making arguments nobody's making. >> just quickly, we can say that's a smart frame, an attempt
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to refocus and deflect and distract but let's not lose sight of the big per picture. the president of the united states at a campaign style rally decrying an ongoing investigation is something that is well outside the norms of american politics. it's something we've seen in our countries. with bad overtones, but not here to date. >> panel, thank you all very much. so, up next, they vote ed against the senate's effort to repeal obamacare and now susan merkowski is talk defying the party, what that meant ant what the president has said. >> he tried to intimidate you on twitter, very directly. specifically. maybe having his interior secretary call you. >> did you feel he was trying to intimidate you? >> dan into bash's exclusive interview next. because tripadvisor searches... ...over 200 booking sites - so you save up to 30% on the...
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backla backlash. they've been in politics a long time but i do sense they feel like they learned something. they came out of this somehow a little bit different. >> very different i totally agree. the susan collins and lisa merkowski were the only republican senators to go against their leadership as obamacare replacement plans all the way through the process. the two women were close before this but this high profile and high intensity experience took their bond to a new level. >> watching you with your desks next to each other and you could sort of sense a bit of relief that each of you had that you had one another. dy read that right? >> i will say that i was very happy that lisa was literally sitting next to me, as we were voting from our seats, which as you know is unusual. the and is used to are only very important votes. >> to have that weight, that
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responsibility, knowing that your vote really is that pivotal, it does help to know that there is another kindred soul close by. >> you are both heros to a lot of people. and her re: ticks to a lot of people. how do you see yourselves? >> i see myself as someone who has an obligation to represent the people of maine. and sometimes that means casting uncomfortable votes, voting that will make my party uncomfortable, and even angry at me. >> you want to vote to do the right thing. and so worrying about the consequences, are you fearful of repercussion from your party, a tweet from the president, a
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backlash from your leadership. i don't believe that we should be motivated or discouraged from taking the positions that are important to the people that we represent, and our respective states. >> can you give me a sense of the kind of pressure you had. >> phone calls, meetings. i had a private meeting with the vice president at one point. >> is it hard at that point? you ran on repealing obamacare. this is the time. the bell's ringing. go. >> i had an opportunity when we were at the white house the second time we were over there, and it was a very directed appeal that we need to come together as republicans. i made a statement to the
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president with my colleagues and with his team there, that i'm not voting for the republican party. i'm voting for the people of alaska. the. >> i remember being so proud of you for saying directly to the president what your obligations were. and that's the way i feel too. the people of maine don't expect me to be a rubber stamp. >> you both are opposed to any cuts to planned parenthood because of what it means in your states. if you were male senators, do you think that it would be such a priority for you to make sure that planned parenthood is not cut? >> that's a really good question. the issue of family planning services, cancer screening, well women care probably does resonate with us more than with our male colleagues. and to me, it was so unfair to
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singing out one medicate provider and say to women in particular, you can't choose which health care provider you want to go to. >> i want to borrow a phrase from the first female secretary of state. who talked about ca hone es. the a lot of people say you two have more cahones than a lot of the guys around here. do you buy that? >> every senator has to make his or her own decision, so i wouldn't judge my colleagues. >> i absolutely agree. >> you guys have some pretty stiff spines. >> that i'd go with. >> did that's rigsenator miccca you. >> i remember when we were talk the about john mccain on the
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senate floor and he pointed to both of us and said you two are right on this issue. >> and to have the conversation ta we had after the vote, we had one of those conversations that you'll think of years down the road, where he said people might not appreciate what has happened right now as being a positive. maybe our colleagues are not going to be viewing this as a positive right now. but the time will prove that having a pause, having a time-out for us to do better is going to be good for the country. and it was a good, good strong john mccain message. >> i've seen congress and congress people when they have some political fear of their president and he tried to intimidate you on twitter, very directly, specifically, maybe
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having his interior secretary call you? >> you can't live in fear that the direction that you're going to take, that you believe is truly in your state's best interest. >> did you feel he was trying to intimidate you? >> i will just say the president and i had a very direct call. >> do you think there's been a shift among your republican colleagues as it relates to the president. >> many of us are still have interested in the president's agenda. finding those areas where we are working together, partnering. this is what we should be doing. if there's rhetoric that's out there that is not constructive to governing, i think it's important to speak up and i think you are starting to see a little bit of that. >> another area where these senators particularly susan collins, who is on the intelligence committee, where they're investigating the russia situation where they kind of separate from the president is on -- special council.
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they collins in particular said she believes that, according to cnn's reporting the fact that the special koin council is expanding the probe to the president's financial situation. she believes that's okay. the i said what about the red line? and she laughed. she said the president doesn't get to tell bob mueller where the red lines are. >> really interesting, dana to hear all of the thought process and the exchange with john mccain. so president trump continues to tout a strong economy. we have the numbers next.
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trump took office. although you look at the trend, it's not quite trending to the 25 million he promised to add within 10 years. the if you want to see that you need to see an average of 208,000 jobs added per month. what else? what are the other takeaways, unemployment falling 4.3%. the this is the lowest level in 16 years. we're approaching this level of unemployment that economists like to call full employment. the interesting phenomenon going on here is it's a double-edged sword. you're seeing a ton of job openings but ploy employers are having a hard time filling them. wages rose only two and a half percent compared to last year. the that's the wunl sticking point we're seeing with the jobs picture. those wages aren't accelerating fast enough. >> thank you very much. the lowest in 16 years of the thank you for all of that. so, tonight, on cnn, there's a new special report called fatal attack shn or fatal mistake. and this is the carolyn warmus
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story. tell us everything. >> you remember the movie fatal attack shn, right? this was a trial. that was a blockbuster at the time. everybody had seen that movie and then this trial was billed as the real life version fatal avk shn and carolyn warm us was this beautiful 20-something-year-old school teacher having an affair with a married man and his wife ends up dead. she goes on trial for murder and there's a hung jury. then before the second trial, her lover finds a bloody glove. sound familiar? this was found in his closet, just like a bloody glove acquitted o.j. simpson, this convicted carolyn. 25 years in jail. here's a part of her story.
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>> february 2nd, 1990, more than a year after of the brutal killing of betty jean solomon, carolyn warmus was charged with her murder. >> i didn't find out until the newspaper called me. >> that's how you found you out you were ra spect. >> yeah. i didn't know what they were talking about. what could i have possible done? h and they said for the murder of betty jean solomon. >> it's been the subject of front page magazine story, tabloid head lines for months. the day a long awaited trial opened up in westchester county. >> i would say the westchester community's state of mind about carolyn was that she was guilty almost immediately. there was implicit judgment against a woman who was having an affair with a married man. >> a tabloid sensation. the chased by dozens of reporters.
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described as a murder es home wrecker. warmus tried to comoh floj herself with sunglasses -- i said i'm a school teacher and i want to go back and be a school teacher. the and i said if i keep letting them take photos of me, i mean i'm never going to be able to teach again. its a going to be tough enough as it is with this case. >> tell us more about the groovgroovlove. >> the blood on the glove was only months old when it was discovered but the murder had happened three years prior and the blood was never tested. so whose blood is on that glove. the dna is different than the past. she insists it's going to prove her i oh sense. she has a course of defend ders
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right now. the specialists in misconduct. it was interesting to sit down with her and interesting to put this together. the that's for sure. >> it looks fascinating. i can't wait to watch. the thanks so much for sharing it with us. the you can joins for our cnn special report fatal attack shn or fatal mistake. the tonight at 10:00 eastern. >> fan tas ic it. age 14 cnn hero was living alone on the streets after years of struggle. she managed to create a stable life and for the past 32 years has dedicated that life to helping vulnerable newt u. youth in israel. >> to be homeless in a young age, it's very lonely. when you don't have your family, you will always have this black hole. i know exactly what they're going through. the i want children to breathe, feel alive. i want them to feel secure. that they can be hugged and they will not be in danger.
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time these two gentlemen talking about the border wall and it is something that president -- he said basically it is unacceptable for mexican people to pay for the wall but he also used this language and i want to read it to you. he said -- this is from the mexican president. the for both our governments this could constitute a win win situation. let us look for ways to safe this to we can remove this difficulty and be creative on this. is that the to enthat you would have taken with president trump? >> that's exactly that. i don't think it's right to speak or by un lateral imposition to another nation is through dialogue. and we did that with president bush administration. we came to an agreement that is a bill presented in congress that deals with how to handle the border, how to handle
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migration. civilized people is what we do. and if you notice in that conversation, what trum is trying to do is to save fies ac front of his voters. he's not looking after america. he's just him trying to save face. >> what i'm struck by is how diplomatic the mexican president is being. you have not minced words about what you would have said to president trump and i'm just wondering if you think president -- this was a very long transcript. it's hard to just take one moment, and not give it context. but, do you think that the president of mexico should have been more forceful in saying it's never going to happen? >> well, you can use my words. the we'll never pay for that
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wall. would that fall f wall, that makes it more clear. but it's still -- who can think about a country paying for a wall that is going to be built in the neighbor's territory? why should mexico pay for the wall? what's the reason? we don't need a wall. if trump wants to build that wall, he have to go to congress, u.s. congress, and he has to tell the truth to u.s. taxpayers, that they're going to pay for that. the. >> yeah. perhaps i should have taken that offer for the 5-second delay. president foxx, let me play for you what the then president of mexico said. the moment where you're talking about where president trump explained what his real motivation was for wanting the president to say that mexico
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would somehow pay for the wall. listen to this. my position -- this is from the president of mexico. the my position has been and will continue to be very firm, saying that mexico cannot pay for that wall. le president trump says but you cannot say that. to the press. the press is going to go with that and i cannot live with that. your thoughts? >> that is a dictate for's position to shut up press. that's incredible that united states people -- it's accepting a president that doesn't want media. that he calls media all kinds of heavy words and trying to shut him down. that's exactly what med dur row did in jnz venezuela. that's the attitude of dictator. trump has to use that united states is a democracy where you have three branches of power. >> but this is different. the this isn't him here
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sensoring the press. this isn't him saying i want to shut down the press. le this is saying we can't be honest with the press because -- further than that, i mean we learned today, three months after the conversation, that he had been denying and denying, so he's always lying to the american people. that's incredible. i mean how can he get some trust what he's going to do? what about the rest of the world? is how can we trust a u.s. president that lies every minute of the day? i mean we are shocked outside here in the world. we're absolutely shocked. we have never thought we will be in a situation like this with a leading nation of the world, the greatest nation of the world united states, the most fair and
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just nation now begins to use -- we seem to be watching the ugly american coming back, the gring go that we never would like to see again intervening in nations, acting with lying to people. >> well, let me play for you what this moment is where president trump says that mexico and the united states basically need to be in this together. this is another bit of the transcript. the president of mexico says we have to generate jobs and we have to be stronger and be growing. i share that position with you. president trump says it is you and i against -- it is america and mexico together against the world. >> it is american mexico in favor of the world working for a better world. building a better world, building better our --
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possibilities. the this is what has worked throughout the 22 last years with nafta. everything is going fluently, now he's changing migration laws. i mean it's -- he think that he needs labor, he needs man power in h united states is badly needed. the otherwise we've going to pick up the apples in washington estates. or har sequevest the fields of california. it's incredible. we have to work together. that is the message that we have to get in his head. >> president, always unpredictab unpredictable. thank you very much for joining us with the ever surprising interview moments. we appreciate you being here. >> thank you. thank america. let's move on. the let's just stand up and
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