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campaign trail trump is back, trying to keep his base on his side. >> reporte >> we need to drain the swamp. >> as he takes step to deliver on immigration promises. >> you're going to see jobs pouring back into the country, factories and plants are coming back into the country. plus, white house reset. a general at the helm. >> general kelly has the authority to operate in the white house and all staff will report to him. >> but with kelly as boss, the president's old twitter habits die hard.
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and following the money trail. investigators looking at any trump cash ties to the kremlin. >> the president's camp set red lines for bob mueller. >> the headlines sourced by the best reporters now. welcome to "inside politics." i'm dana bash. john king is off today. to our viewers in the u.s. and around the world, thanks for sharing your sunday with us. president trump is not at the white house this morning but west wing turmoil and brewing trouble with his shaken base are following him on his working vacation. the latest quinnipiac poll shows the president's job approval at just 33%. he's so under water that 63% don't approve how he's doing the job. look closer at the survey and there's even more important danger signs for the president. support from a key part of his base is slipping. since his inauguration, is he
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down 10 points with white voters who don't have college degrees, 43% approval and 50% disapproval. a different set of numbers, however, monthly jobs report is bringing some much-needed good news to the white house. on the president's watch, unemployment is down to 4.3% and 1 million jobs have been created since he took office. now, when employment was on the rise at the end of the obama administration, donald trump dissed the data. now that he's in the white house, he's praising the better-than-expected jobs report. many say it's their pocketbooks that will tell the story. >> reporter: you feel he has accomplished quite a bit? >> tremendous. laying the groundwork for the future, for us. people have got to have jobs so they feel comfortable and when they know the military is strong, they feel safe they just want to make sure they have a paycheck and nobody is threatening their life. >> still, trump's approval drop inside a key part of his
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coalition is real. that could be why he's trying a bit harder to tend to his bruised base. channeling 2016 trump, with some of his campaign's greatest hits. >> i love our coal miners. and they're coming back strong. and as you've seen, i've kept that promise. as president, we are putting our coal miners back to work. >> then there's the more modern red meat, slamming the russia investigation as a partisan witch hunt. >> have you seen any russians in west virginia or ohio or pennsylvania? are there any russians here tonight? any russians? they can't beat us at the voting booths so they're trying to cheat you out of the future and
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the future that you want. they're trying to cheat you out of the leadership you want with a fake story that is demeaning to all of us and, most importantly, demeaning to our country and demeaning to our constitution. >> that calls for a quick fact check before we get started. special counsel robert mueller is not a democrat and he was appointed by the president's own deputy attorney general. with that, let's go around the panel to get reporting insights from our wonderful journalists here, michael shear of "the new york times". caran dimurjin. michael, you were at that rally. did it feel like a throwback?
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>> i didn't see any russians. >> not that you know of. >> not that i know of. it felt like the antidote to that survey that you talked about. i mean, it was as -- the people in that arena were as passionate and supportive of donald trump as any time that you might have seen on the campaign trail. you know, that said that's a, you know, small slice of the electorate, people who come out for a rally for a sitting president. it's in a place that, you know, is kind of core to his base. he obviously won west virginia by huge margins in the presidential campaign. so, you know, it's -- i think what's always been true, despite the survey, is that he has this rock solid base that's not likely to go anywhere. and what he has done since being president has sort of played to that base over and over and over again with russia slamming investigation stuff and everything else. so i think what we'll really have to watch is not so much that base but that sort of folks
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on the margin, who supported him in the campaign gave him the edge over hillary clinton. >> i'm glad you brought that up. i want to look at some of the issues that were also in this survey that are very important to people. even on those from health care, immigration, to terrorism, he is also under water. terrorism, he seems to be doing the best. and it's probably margin of error there. what do you make of that, julie? >> i think what we see is the failure of president trump's agenda so far in congress really starting to hit home with his supporters and certainly with those who were giving him a chance and haven't seen much in the way of progress on the issues they care about. the major thing of the gentleman interviewed in that clip just before we came on is jobs and people having a paycheck and as good as the job numbers look, as good as the stock market is doing, people are not yet
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feeling the change in their lives, in their paycheck. they don't see these jobs coming back. donald trump has been very strategic about making all these announcements, a factory here, factory there, foxconn is going to build a factory in wisconsin. people don't have those jobs yet. this is a timing issue. they can be doing a lot of those things but even if they were doing all the right things, they need to get this train moving in time to get those people re-engaged and reenergized on baf of president trump but also republicans in congress if they want to be able to maintain a majority. >> that's one of the main reasons president trump won, the job numbers were looking good but people weren't feeling it. they were feeling left behind, isolated. wages weren't as good. so, that is why, clearly, they understand, because that's the playbook they use to get into office or that the president used. i want to go back to the base. and it wasn't just the west virginia rally this week.
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it was also a very big announcement about a new immigration plan that the white house is backing, congressional plan about curbing legal immigration i want to play a sound bite from stephen miller who was kind of front and center and pushing it. >> it's the divide between how. >> mark: americans think about immigration and how washington thinks about immigration. so to every day americans this is the most rational, modest, common sense basic thing you can do. of course you shouldn't have foreign workers displacing american workers. in washington, this represents a sea change from decades of practice. it depends what lens you're looking at and through. >> it's related. jobs is related. many people in his core base believe to the immigration question. >> right. it goes to the medium of feelings. this is the problem. that's why there's a disconnect between the trump administration and a lot of republicans in washington, because it's not
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like those immigrants are necessarily taking jobs away from american citizens who would otherwise go for those jobs. whether it's, you know, highly specialized workers who come with skills or seasonal workers doing agricultural work that a lot of americans don't want, you have these immigrants filling in not to mention the emotional argument of we've always had legal immigration. it's not the crackdown on illegal immigrant. >> it's different but the same notion of they're the other and they're taking our jobs. i'm just talking about the political rhetoric. i'm not talking about the actual facts. >> that's why it works well for the base to talk about immigration in general. he's going to have trouble to get any actual support to do these things. members of congress know that their local economies thrive off
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immigration. >> lindsey graham saying this would be terrible for south carolina. >> and not just lindsey graham. no, because you end up hurting american workers more than having to take the bottom out. it's a good thing to say at a rally but that's about it. >> a different part of the president's base was very upset, and those with maybe the loudest voices, on talk radio and very influential conservative websites like breitbart. i wanted to put something up. this is about general h.r. mcmaster, national security adviser, who really angered the base by telling the former national security adviser, susan rice, that she could keep her security clearance. this is just one example. claims he's very pro-israel. upset that the president supported him again. in the corner it actually says president defies base. if there's not a message for the
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president -- right. is this a problem for the preside president, this churning against the national security adviser is real? >> i don't think this particular issue -- i don't think people are worried about mcmaster's job status. >> no, but maybe people closer to the mega phone? >> definitely a fight between the bannon and mcmaster wing. i would say on the poll numbers, to jump back a little bit, one thing we know, this president won with very low approval ratings. i think he knows he has done lots of things to anger people, the tweeting particularly, i would say. i think they're running a base white house, trying to do things that motivate the base. they don't sit around worrying about being really, really popular. >> exactly. this is why you sort of think huh? i mean if we're going to talk about the infighting a little bit, but the notion of the
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president having to defend his national security adviser when maybe he's not that thrilled with him. >> tending your base is about tending it with the actual base and voters but also about the sort of people -- >> conservative media. >> that's right, conservative activist types. and you need to do both. and this is one of those warnings that maybe he's letting part of that slip away or at least there's some frustration. >> and they were already upset about his targeting of jeff sessions. >> that's right. >> the attorney general, which he has dialed back a little bit. we now see him praising jeff sessions and i think they got that it was not going over well with the base. >> can i interrupt you for a minute right there on this subject? i want to show our viewers what you're alluding to, what president trump tweeted yesterday on a saturday, after many years of leaks going on in washington, it's great to see
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the ag taking action. the tougher the better. that is a relationship that appears to be onned mend, thanks in large part to the attorney general friday doing base building of his own in the oval office and making a big announcement, an audience of one, i'm going after the leaks. it's been three times more aggressive than in the past. >> i think perry is right. this churn of the bannon wing against everyone else in the white house will continue and it is a real concern to parts of the base that don't necessarily see the ownness on the issues they want and going after the wrong person in the administration is not helping trump with his core supporters. >> we'll talk about all of this after the break, about general kelly taking over the west wing. changes he has made his first week to put military-style organization into a free-flowing white house. first, comedians say the dar
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there's no time for vacation. we're not going to be big on vacation. if you're at the white house and you have so much work to do, why do you fly so -- why do you leave so much? you know, you think you would want to work, work, work. straighten it out. get it done. fix it up, make it great and when you're finished you could be proud. >> that was candidate trump during last year's election promising, you wouldn't be seeing him jet set off on vacation. but that was so last year. now that he's actually president, he is on a 17-day working vacation on his property in bedminster, new jersey. he said don't call it a vacation. working in bedminster, new jersey, as work is being done at the white house. this is not a vacation.
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meetings and calls, his tweet said. general kelly gave the white house communications director the boot. it's all part of his strategy to stop the white house infighting and control who is in the president's ear. that military cut and dry approach is definitely apparent now in trump's west wing with "the new york times" reporting mr. kelly cuts off rambling advisers' sentences, listens in on conversations between cabinet secretaries and the president. he has booted lingering staff members out of high-level meetings and ordered the doors of the oval office closed to discourage strays. the reporter who wrote that is with me, luckily, michael shear. i want to ask you more about this and show you a picture tweeted of john kelly, addressing the staff, from the president's social media guru, dan scovino sent that out.
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the white house staff has moved since the white house is in renovation. they're not all in bedminster. that was day one. do you feel in covering the white house day-to-day that things have changed? >> i guess a little bit. this has happened before where president trump has been encouraged by aides or advisers to sort of tone it down and we haven't seen any sort of really remarkable tweets in the times since general kelly has been in here. but that has also proven to be fleeting in the past. we'll see. the kinds of things that you read and shout out to my colleagues, glenn thrush and colleen sullivan. what's remarkable is that they took six months to implement. that we had a white house that did none of those things, that people were coming in, going out
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of the oval office willy nilly. >> which is not normal. >> which is not normal in any white house prior to this one and that he would get something from fox news or a bre. tbart article. and that's what's changing. the big question is can it last? >> and the bloomberg reports this morning that kelly is telling west wing staffers to put country first, the president second and own needs and priorities last. i hope the president doesn't read that. i would think he would want those first two flip ped. some of the infighting is about egos clashing but some of it is concern that the country isn't being put first. >> right. you could say that might be a source of the many reasons we're seeing different narratives out of the white house and sometimes information that trump doesn't
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want coming out because people are putting the country above what the president's inclinations are. >> you're talking about the leaks? >> whichever one you want to call it really. but exactly. you've seen that angered trump when his preferred narrative of the week is not dominating because other information is coming out of the white house through reporters that counters that. if that is -- but, again, you've got a situation where you have diven personali different personalities right now. trump seems to be okay to deferring some ego to a general who is not a camera hog. it sounds good to say country first, president second, and self interest thi third. it's something that trump could get behind and say at rallies and from behind the podium. he has to feel not personally threatened in that. can kelly manage him that way? >> i want to play something for you, perry, that rush limbaugh
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said about this whole notion of white house chaos, and talk on the other side. >> this white house chaos, i have said from the get go that the one way past all of this is to simply march this agenda through. if that means trump has to get up to speed on every line and every piece of legislation and be able to sell it to the american people in appearance after appearance, that's what it's going to take f it's going to require trump doing the heavy lifting because there's nobody better at trump being trump, then that's what it's going to take. >> that's a really nice thought but i'm not sure how realistic it is. >> the tone he said is right. if the health care bill had pass bid now or tax reform had passed we would not be talking about white house infighting. he's right. >> sure. >> this tea that the information flow has to change that's probably true. will kelly stop "fox & friends"
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from being aired? >> do they have to take away his tv? >> take away some of the friends he calls. the idea that information is being handed to him is wrong is probably not right. he's seeking out information that confirms what his views already are. >> what is his agenda? trump is not a details guy. how is he going to sell that in sound bites? it's not his thing. >> we'll talk about a lot more when we come back. in your piece, you said he's not even trying to tame the president. he's just dealing with the staff which tells you a lot. the president has a new twitter target, speaking of twitter. his republicans who run congress. plus my exclusive interview with two of those gop senators he's not pleased with. the women who defied him on health care.
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when things get quiet here in washington and traffic gets lighter, you know it's august. congress and the president have both skipped town but republicans who control washington left a pretty lengthy to-do list behind when it comes to the gop's signature promise of repeal and replace, they get an f. tax reform, incomplete. infrastructure, incomplete. raise the debt ceiling, also incomplete. and pass a budget, incan complete. president trump says if you're looking for someone to blame for that abysmal report card look no further than his republican brethren on capitol hill. >> nothing in life is easy. but congress must not give in. they must not give up. but instead congress must get to work and deliver americans the
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great health care that they deserve. call your congressman. call your senators. call everybody. get them to have the guts to vote to repeal and replace obamacare. >> per usual, the vice president took a more diplomatic approach saying this to a group of young conservatives, that the gop will deliver on health care reform. >> my fellow conservatives, let me be clear, this ain't over. this ain't over by a long shot. and president trump and i are absolutely committed to keep our promise to the american people. we were not elected to save obamacare. we were elected to repeal and replace it. >> so, you know, not just the back and forth over health care, which obviously is going to happen, but just even this past week, congress really pushed back. republicans in congress against the president on everything from
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trying to start the process going of making sure that he can't fire the special counsel on a bipartisan basis and maybe the biggest was the russia sanctions that they passed overwhelmingly that the president had no choice to sign. the president tweeted about this this week. our relationship with russia is at an all-time and dangerous low. you can thank congress, the same people who can't give us health care. then john mccain, in cancer treatment, couldn't even take that without responding. and he tweeted the following. our relationship with russia is at a dangerous low. you can thank putin for invading neighbors and threatening our allies. >> when the president says something that they disagree with, and particularly this
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comment he made about the russia sanctions bill, which was extraordinary. he, in fact, blamed congress in his official statement. not just the tweet but after he signed the legislation, which the white housemaid it pretty clear he wouldn't have signed if it weren't for the fact that it passed by a veto-proof margin. how can you expect them to make a deal with russia when they couldn't even make a deal on health care. the point is that they don't want the president to be able to. as the calendar, you know, marches on and they see their re-elections coming closer, i do think that republicans are in a mood to be a lot more circumspect. and given the report card you just showed, he needs them for a lot of very important things and poking them in the eye -- which all presidents do. let's make -- when they don't get what they want, presidents
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do blame congress. ready foil for a president who has not seen progress on his agenda. but for this president, who has not seen any legislative victories, to do that at a point when he needs them the most -- >> i spoke to the two female senators who were opposing the president from soup to nuts on health care, and talked about what it was like to defy all of them. in particular on this point about what it's like for them and for their fellow republicans in congress, vis-a-vis the president. take a listen. >> if you come to washington with the idea that people could intimidate you, threaten you or force you to cast a vote that you don't believe in, then you might as well go back home. >> he tried to intimidate you on twitter very directly, specifically, maybe having his interior secretary call you. >> you can't live in fear that
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the direction that you're going to take -- >> if you feel that he was trying to intimidate you? >> i will just say that the president and i had a very direct call. >> do you think there's been a shift among your republican colleagues as it goes and as it relates to the president? >> i don't think that the caucus is ignoring the president. but there may be ignoring of his rhetoric which at times is over the top. >> if there is rhetoric out there that is not constructive to governing, that is just distractive to where we are, i think it's important to speak up. and i think you are starting to see a little bit of that. >> you are.
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>> and you are. and lisa murkowski did a little pushback against the president. her office would never admit to it, but she did keep all the interior nominees that her committee was supposed to vet. i didn't have time to do it when push came to shove and he started bullying her on the health care vote. in general, we have seen the health care issue certainly has shown that trump cannot be successful. just because they have all the votes in d.c. doesn't mean it can ride through. honestly to me it shows the biggest breaking point between members of congress and the trump administration. >> i agree. >> one, because it's a serious matter of the national security of the country, about election meddling, in general. trump has not been able to get on board with that because he has been so obsessed about the implications of his own personal links with the kremlin. you see people basically not believing him anymore. so many points of this sanctions debate that don't add up.
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he lobbied against that bill then tried to claim credit for it as a victory. blaming congress for doing things that are unconstitutional, citing case law that is grossly misapplied. >> the fact that he signed it shows you what kind of pressure there was. he did it kicking and screaming. >> immediately after you see the mueller bills come out. they are all protected. >> good news for the president and republicans in congress is tax reform is something that, if done right, can unite them and bring some democrats along and the conservative community, business community that has been luke warm on the president. >> health care is always hard. this idea of taking something away from people. i would say with r we started off was important here. the president has very low approval ratings. that makes it hard to move congress. they're often eager to vote against you when they don't think you're popular. that's what he has to adjust to. if he can build those numbers
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back up i think members will be more willing to listen to them i talked to staffers on the hill, their view is that he doesn't help us pass bills, he often gets in the way. why are we listening to him for advice? he can't pass a bill. his staff is fighting all the time. he's not helpful on health care. what is he doing for us? >> we'll see what happens when they come back on tax reform. again, if they can't get this together, this is really the core of republican credo and a promise that everybody made across the board, no matter what flavor republican you were running for the nomination. everybody stand by. coming up, the russia probe hops on the trump money trail. with the possible financial clue coming from one former trump administration official.
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a gut punch to north korea. the u.n. security council
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unanimously voted to punish north korea for its violations. haley says north korea is on notice. >> this was a day of action, where we stopped all the talk. this is the day where we said to north korea they have to stop their irresponsible actions. this resolution is the strongest resolution with sanction measures that we've seen in a generation. >> as for possible military action in north korea, both haley and h.r. mcmaster warned the ball is in north korea's court. >> are we preparing plans for a preventive war, a war that would prevent north korea from threatening the united states with a nuclear weapon? and the president has been very clear about it. he said he's not going to tolerate north korea being able to threaten the united states. look at the nature of that regime, if they had nuclear weapons threatening the united states. it's intolerable from the
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president's perspective. we need all options to do that, including a military option. >> michael, the fact is that the trump administration, nikki haley got all 15 united nation security council members, including russia and china, on board with these sanctions. that's something. >> it is. look, one of the things that all of the north korean news over the last couple of weeks reminds you is that when you juxtapose it against the stories about infighting in the white house and is mcmaster up or down with conservative base that it's not just sort of palace intrigue that we're all talking about. this is serious stuff. presidents, for the last, you know, eight, ten, 12, 16 years have been dealing with north korea's nuclear ambitions. it's all coming to a head right now. there is a sense of seriousness that when you see a kind of successful coalition being built
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around sanctions like that at the u.n. that it reminds you that this is all important for the white house to get past the infighting. >> the infighting is not just about personalities. it's about what policy is going to rule. >> they're struggling to figure that out. >> in this white house it's no small thing. nationalism versus more globalism. those are hugely disparate world views. >> it reminds you why the infighting is a big problem. it does put everything in perspective, right? communications director saying something off color. one faction being up, one faction being down. tase problem if they're not seen as a person who has confidence of the president and speaking on behalf of the president like important issues like north korea. we saw the president give a statement to peter baker that he does have confidence in mcmaster and trusts him.
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that is the other side of the coin with all the factionalism. who is speaking for the administration for the president? we've seen this with rex tillerson as well. >> speaking of rex tillerson, moving from north korea to russia, he is in manila and met with sergey lavrov, who asked tillerson about the measures we talked about earlier, the u.s. sanctions. this is obviously real, playing out on the world stage. while that is happening, the russia investigation is really full steam ahead. cnn reported that mueller
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expanded the investigation. he has these big foreign and domestic issues. >> right. the probe is expanding further than people thought it would. you can't address the issue without looking into some of the potential financial connections. that's already been alleged. the open question is how ably is the white house able to function? how are they able to impress the will of the united states around the world while this is all happening? north korea is an interesting test. your report something probably more -- better than mine on this but do we know how much the united states, you know, expertly played a good cop, bad cop scenario, to influence other countries or is this something they were always going to get to because russia and china also have an interest in not having north korea have an icbm? they don't necessarily want as much intervention as we do. >> no. perry it's been a big push and
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pull for many administrations. >> he talked about this as intolerable, unacceptable. u.s. policy going to affect them or are they going to keep moving forward? it appears north korea will keep moving forward no matter what military options they talk about but really we know we are elected to do. >> thank you so much. stand by. a lot more coming up. reporters are going to share from their notebooks next, including trump's plan to woo red state democrats and the issue he's hoping will seal the deal. to the city mini shadow palettes, new from maybelline new york. our purest color pigments inspired by the city. from concrete runway to rooftop bronzes. the city mini shadow palettes. make it happen. ♪ maybelline new york make it happen. yes, 9 o'clock works for me. bye. another referral. our customers love us. (nail gun firing) (glass egg shattering) when the unexpected strikes... don't worry we've got you covered. the hartford strikes back.
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let's close by asking our
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reporters to share a little something from their notebooks to help keep you ahead of the curve on big political news. michael? >> so here is something to think about. the president is on vacation up in bedminster and might think that means he doesn't have to do a lot this summer. august has always been a sort of curse for presidents. president obama had the tea party town halls in august. he had the syria chemical attacks in 2013. in 2014, isis beheaded an american journalist and the ferguson riots happened. president bush, of course, dealt with hurricane katrina in august. we don't know what's going to happen but the president might be good not to think he can relooks the entire summer. >> that's a very good point i was with president bush in crawford, texas, when katrina was coming and, boy, nobody expected that. how donald trump will be shoring up his base a little bit more. one thing that the white house
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has started to talk about very tentatively is the fact they might have to start courting red-state democrats to help them on tax reform, tax cuts potentially and other key votes this fall. his agenda has been stalled. they've had trouble getting to 50 among republicans. mitch mcconnell acknowledged that. increasingly there is a knowledge he will have to go after some of these democrats in states that donald trump won in 2016, in montana, indiana, places like that. and if he's going to even get close to a vote on tax reform. we might see him starting to travel to those places and target those senators by name. >> that would be nice bipartisanship, an issue if you could see bipartisanship, tax reform. fascinating. >> west of before we can get to bipartisanship the question is what the gop will be doing now. a lot of congressmen will be avoiding town halls. it's difficult to get an entire month off without doing some
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sort of interview. there will be some interaction with constituents. it will be interesting to see do they stand with trump or start to distance themselves from him? over the july 4th recess, susan collins heard that go, susan, go, stuff and never came back to the fold on health care. moderates who may not -- but we saw congressman come back and say i'm going to back a bill that would allow him to be fired without judicial review. does that continue? is it broader as they go home? that's when we'll start to see what happens and that has major implications. >> sure does. fascinating. perry? >> never say never. in terms congress, it seems the obamacare fight is over for now. a lot of things are happening in the administration. they have to decide if they're going to keep obamacare going or keep steps in which it would not
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help to implement the law. how trump and tom price handle the obamacare exchanges and law overall and how insurance companies react to them. they're nervous right now, withdrawing from obamacare and listening to what the president says, basically let the law fail or implement it and make it work better. >> letting the law fail means letting people get really, really hurt with regard to the thing that matters the most, which is their health care. thank you so much for joining me this morning. appreciate it. that's it for "inside politics." thank you for sharing your sunday morning with us. up next "state of the union with jake tapper." you can use whipped topping made ...but real joyful moments.. are shared over the real cream in reddi-wip.
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