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>> we will support the new president and give him every chance to lead this country into greater heights. i am very grateful to all of you. it's been a wonderful four years, and i think we've really contributed something to the country and maybe history will record it that way. thank you all very, very much. there are people in this country who are furious at the federal government. >> they have a right to believe whatever they want. they do not have the right to kill innocent americans. >> there has been a massive explosion in oklahoma city, oklahoma. >> police are descending upon it right now. >> it strikes when and where we least expect them to. >> what are your future plans? >> you'll see them and hear about them in the media. god willing.
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hostags held by pro-iranian terrorists in lebanon. >> in the beginning of the '90s terrorism was thought to be done. people likely to use terrorism to achieve political objectives were dead, in jail or part of the peace process. >> a syrian delegate is in washington today ready to talk about middle east peace. >> we thought the '90s would be a time of peace. not only was the cold war over, we had won. >> a world where the rule of law conducts. >> it was a time where they reallyal viewed america. but there were many people who didn't like that changing america. >> in maples, idaho about 40 miles from the canadian border federal marshals are surrounding a cabin where a white supremest
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is holding up with his family. >> he was of interest to the bureau of alcohol and tobacco and firearms because he had link tuesday the arian nations. they tried to pressure him to inform on his friends in the movement and he refused. >> he's summoned to court for a weapons charge. >> now a force of 200 police, federal agents and the national guard have surrounded the house. >> this is nothing more than a show of force to scare everybody who lives up here in idaho. we all have guns. >> northern idaho has become a home for people like weaver. >> he's not a terrorist. he's not endangering everybody. everybody that knows him personally has talked about him as a good family christian man.
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>> what should have been a relatively routine arrest went badly wrong. there was a shootout in which weaver's 14-year-old son and a dog and a marshal all ended up dead. shot his wife dead while she was carrying her baby in her arms. >> the rules of engagement for ruby ridge were rewritten. >> decisions were made within the fbi which allowed the snipers to shoot at anyone who was armed. it was completely unjustifiable. >> put a bullet in my head. hey, i'll make it easy. i'll turn my back on you. >> not everyone who lives around here says randy weaver is in the right. but they say none of this would have happened if federal authorities would have left him alone. >> ruby ridge was not a story that was on the front page of national newspapers. most people didn't know about it
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at all, but it actually did radicalize the right. >> there's all this tremendous firmant that's arising precisely because of the end of the cold war. this mind-set that the united states government is the enemy breeds almost the decade of violence. >> in langly, virginia today right outside cia headquarters a man open fired on a number of people who were in their cars. >> no one would think like a situation like the shooting of cia personnel would happen on their front doorstep. the shooter escapes. >> two employees were shot to death in virginia. a pakistani suspect is figured to be back in pakistani. >> they figure out his name. but they don't know how to peg him. who's he working for? what organization? >> in the 1970s, we were dealing
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with terrorist groups. in this case there was no group that could be identified. this was the action of one single individual. we did not realize that terrorism seemed to be moving in a new direction. [ sirens ] >> an explosion underground has spread spoke and terror throughout the gigantic world trade towers today. >> something terrible happened. >> counter terrorism sources tell cnn they now suspect the explosions caused by a car bomb. >> the bombing was designed to bring down the north tower and the north tower than falling into the south tower. >> that did not, of course, collapse the towers. but it did kill six people and injure over 1,000 more. >> i was very concerned. anything like that, any
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accident, tragedy, anything of moment you feel it very personally. >> the think most amazing is that more people weren't killed especially occurring in the hours it did and the place it did. >> president clinton had just come into office. i was in new york as the ambassador of the united nations. there's no way to fully explain how all of a sudden the mood changed. >> i'll use the full resources of the federal government, every law enforcement to put to work on this, we have. i'm very concerned about it. >> federal officials are beginning to focus more heavily on the possibility of the explosion being the work of foreign terrorists. >> the 1993 world trade center bombing was a signal of how the extremists were that had been limited largely to the middle east was coming to american shores. >> tonight one suspect is in custody. more arrests are said to be
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coming. >> the investigators found the vin number of the truck, and it found out the one of the collaborators had returned there to ask for his deposit back. >> they next capture most of the accompplaces. but the mastermind fled. >> ram ramzi yousef is smart and radicalized. his uncle is khalid sheikh mohammed. >> that will be our message to whoever did this. whatever you were trying to achieve, you fail. >> for the fbi was it these guys while dangerous, were not at the same level as the terrorists of the late '80s. they were wannabyes, that of course would be a complete misunderstanding. >> tower 2 will be open for business, two that was a testam
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this religious group, the branch duvidians have this compound. they have been buying parts that would convert semiautomatic weapons to fully automatic weapon, which were illegal. the atf decided it was time to go in. >> four federal agents died in the sunday morning shootout there in texas. 16 others were wounded. >> heavily armed cult leaders remain inside the compound. the cult leader curesh says he will continue. >> the waco tribune began to publish a series of articles of what they call the sinful messiah who loves music and will drink beer with you and who also has sex with underage girls and makes weapons for a business. >> guns are the right of
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americans to have. >> cult members continue fortifying their compound, an indication there's no plan to surrender anytime soon. >> this is day 20 of the standoff. >> this is day 32. >> negotiations between the cult and fbi agents have stalled. >> it was all waco all the time. every new cast, every newspaper, every radio new cast is filled with this showdown. >> david corash becomes this household name, and many people are inspired by him. he's taking to the u.s. government. he's not standing dune, and people drive to waco to show their support. >> things had reached a point partly because of the publicity. >> an update on the 51-day standoff, earlier this morning armored vehicles entered the compound and began punching large holes in the walls. >> it was decided to inject tear
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gas on steroids. all of america and law enforcement on-the-scene is waiting for inpeople to come out. >> suddenly out of one of the second floor windows, flames burst forth. and at this point it looks like the entire compound is engulfed. >> i'd never in my life seen anything burned that way. it just went up in this massive fireball. >> there are no signs at this point of any people coming out-of-the building. >> the images are horrible. you had the federal government of the united states using a tank to deal with a compound that has children. it's not what we do in the united states. and yet in many ways the clinton administration felt the korash had left them no alteative. >> i d not think the government of the united states is responsible that they decided to
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kill themsives, and i'm sorry they killed their children. >> there were millions 067 americans who absolutely believed the government had murdered those people. >> this whole situation started with violence. it ended in violence that was not justified and not provoked. >> waco was proof this was an aggressive predatory federal government and now we have to fight back. like the minute men in 1776 to bear arms to defend their own rights. >> this is the michigan militia, a self-proclaimed fighting force of ordinary citizens preparing to defend themselves against the federal government. >> you will be receiving live fire over your heads this morning. >> there's also an armed mupublisha here in louisiana other states. >> gun shows became an extremely
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important venue. not just for selling guns, but they're selling real life nazi literature along with survivalist handbooks and those kinds of thing. >> so your prepared to fight the federal government? >> yes, we're prepared to defend our home, our rights, our property, yes. >> there's this extremist element of this which would not have been on anybody's radar and that's what made them so dangerous. >> we do have a special report from nbc news. there's been a massive explosion at a federal building. >> we have no way to tell at the moment how many casualties there are though it was an explosion felt 30 miles away. >> rescue workers desperately trying to save any lives. you can see the side of the building is all down. >> on april 18th, the building
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was still on fire and a whole lot of cars around the building that had also exploded. it was unbelievable. >> it is the dead and wounded children that have angered and stunned the nation. >> the motive behind it is unknown at this hour. the governor says two things is known for sure. those who did this, knew what theyere doing and whoever did it, the guchbner said, is some kind of aninal. >> i am pleased to announce one of the individuals believed to be responsible for wednesday's terror attack in oklahoma city has been arrested. timothy mcveigh age 27. >> the shock around the country was huge. this was an act of terrorism by one of our own citizens. >> a second man was charged today with blowing up the federal building. terryal nickels who's been in custody since after the bombing. >> timothy mcveigh and terry
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nicols met in the army. >> he left very disillusioned. the one thing that sustained him was his reading about the radical far-right. >> his plot to blow up the federal building took shape over the course of a secret yearlong odyssey. >> he went to the waco compound when it was under siege. on april 19th, two years to the date after the waco incident, oklahoma city was bombed. >> mr. president, there are tens, maybe more -- tens of thousands of men and women dressing up on weekends in military garb going off for training because they're upset about waco. despite what you say, we're talking about thousands of and thousands of people in this country who are furious at the federal government. >> well, they have a right to believe whatever they want. they have a right to say
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unibomb. >> it stands for university airline bomber. >> the fbi says it cannot find a pattern and admits the long investigation has been frustrating. >> the '90s bring on a whole new challenge for law enforcement, lone-wolves. it really was the proverbial needle in a haystack. >> he wasn't the only bomber we had investigated before. but his lone solitary operation as a serial bomber was so unique. >> so far thousands of tips phoned in have led nowhere. >> we began an entirely new look at this, an entirely new strategy. we brought in a crew of analysts from fbi headquarters. they worked 24/7, but sadly it
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happens again. >> the killer known as the unabomber says he will stop mailing package bombs if the newspapers will publish his political theories. >> when we received the manifesto, we felt very strongly we should publish this. we think someone out there will actually recognize these words. >> the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. so begins an 8-page. >> someone does recognize this writing and turns him into the auorities. >> it's zeroed in on a prime suspect just outside lincoln, montana. >> the big concern was are there booby traps, explosives on the property, so we had to be very careful. we start knocking on the door of the cabin. as he did that, one of the
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agents pushed the door in. and on the morning of april 3rd, kaczynski was taken out of his cabin. >> the on-site investigation has yielded a cashe of evidence. >> we knew this long journey of 18 years was over. >> mike wallace and i together on 60 minutes interviewed the man who turned him in. >> it was a deep sense of unease, fear. >> because of what you read? >> because of what i read. >> because it sounded like ted? >> because it sounded like things i could not say to myself or linda this was not ted's writing. >> what can you do? you can't risk more lives. they couldn't. none of us could.
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>> apparently some lives were saved. but when the fbi arrested ted kaczynski, they said they found a live bomb wrapped understand his bed ready for mailing. the only thing missing was a name and address. >> get your usa flags, everybody needs to have a flag. >> hats, t-shirts. >> in july, 1996 when the olympics were being hosted in atlanta there was a tremendous concern about terrorist attacks. the security for the park was carefully coordinated. >> it's all taking place in the midst of security that america in an earlier generation could not have imagined. >> they're willing to put up with that. >> there was one place officials decided people should have to go and not worry about check points and that was centennial park.
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>> this morning thousands at an open air concert in centennial park. >> all of a sudden i felt a big boom, blast, heat came and it knocked me off. >> it blew my pants off here. >> authorities said the device appeared to be a pipe bomb with nails and screws designed to penetrate human flesh. >> before this bag explodes, a security finds it and alerts law enforcement and begins to evacuate the area. if not for his quick thinking, there might have been many more injuries. >> the only thing i wish we could have done is got everybody out-of-the area. >> fbi has a suspect. read all about it. >> almost immediately richard jewel was suspected. they thought he actually set the
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bomb so he could be the hero. >> did you do it? >> no, sir, i didn't do it. >> the fbi agents arrived at his apartment. >> in the hurly-burly of trying to understand what had happened, richard jewel became the face of the olympic park bombing until it was made clear he wasn't, but by then a lot of damage had been done. >> they did not find any physical evidence linking him to the crime scene. >> in their mad rush to fulfill their own personal agendas, the fbi and the media almost destroyed me and my mother. >> he was fed to the wolves and they fed on him for days. it was if he was offered up to us in the hopes that the blood we draw would somehow solve the crime. >> if richard jewel was no
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in 1997 the same bomber strikes again. >> you're basically shocked. you really didn't know what was going on at the time. >> where were you in the building, and where was the explosion. oh, my god. >> this second explosion injured a photographer, an agent, and at least 14 others. >> there was a second bomb, the intention of course being to murder as many law enforcement people as possible. >> second and third bombs are classic techniques used by the irish republican army and middle east terrorists. but this is the first time it's been used as a tactic in the united states. >> another explosion. the third major bombing in this city since last summer. >> over time there's more bombings that are similar to the atlanta bombing. abortion clinics, lesbian nightclub. >> federal agents are asking for
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your help in locating this man. >> not much is known about rudolph. >> eric rudolph is described an anti-ebortion terrorist. eric rudolph goes on the run. >> as we started looking for him, we became more and more convinced his comfort level is in the place he was born and raised in the woods and mountains of north carolina. >> this truck was found yesterday. we believe between thursday and yesterday this truck was being driven by eric rudolph. >> agents are now systematically picking their way through. >> american law enforcement
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discovers that you can be on the fbi's most wanted list and actually hide in this country. this guy disappears for five years. >> do you think that he's getting a big kick out of out smarting the feds? >> well, sure. i think he is. i think it's part of his hide-and-seek game. >> and he thinks he's winning. >> he is winning. >> in the end he got caught in this pathetic moment where he's rummaging around in a dumpster looking for something to eat and this rookie cop arrests him. >> there was this sort of unbelievable quality to all of this. eric rudolph was part of this internal terrorist moment. it's like a worm that was eating away inside of us. >> welcome back, everybody. we want to bring you up-to-date of a breaking story out of denver. apparently there's been a school shooting at a high school in the town of littleton.
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>> the '90s bring us the first mass school shootings. there's something disturbing about premeditated murder by young people. >> police and law enforcement are descending upon the school now. >> they believe at least two people inside with automatic weapons and pipe bombs. again, unconfirmed by police. >> it h tv very quickly. i happened to see this on television and got in my car. i saw a wing of shoppers and knew instantly this was so much worse than i'd imagined. >> mass gunman in trench coats start shooting into the cafeteria. kids scatter. students are hit. >> they're just like spraying across -- >> they just start shooting. anybody walking, talking, whatever, boom you were shot. they didn't care. >> there's blood on you. >> everybody around me got shot. and i begged them for 10 minutes
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not to shoot me. >> it was horrific, beyond unthinkable. and yet we were watching it as it happen. >> you can see in the upper part of your screen, a student, a badly bloody student hanging out a window. >> the emotion was incredible. it's hard for a parent to see the parents who came. >> they went through the school shooting classmates, shooting teachers. 13 people died and 28 were injured. the police had arrived. they didn't want to be arrested. so they took their own lives. >> tomorrow morning denver post-identifies the suspects as 18-year-old harris and 17-year-old dyn. >> local authorities searched the homes of the two boys and say they found the makings of a pipe bomb and other explosive
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devices. >> the search for a motivation, the calls for tighter gun control, the counseling sessions at school, and the endless, endless grief. >> there'd been school shootings before, but none quite like this. it put the school shooting in a whole new and darker category. it also raised a flood of questions of well, what is happening to our youth? >> i believe some of these kids are drifting deeper and deeper and deeper into rock music, violence and that subculture. >> the biggest question is why did they do it. they were completely different people, opposite personalities and opposite motives. dylan was suicidely depressed. he really wanted to die. eric harris was the ringleader. he wanted to show how powerful he was. >> on his internet page harris wrote pipe bombs are some of the easiest and deadliest ways to
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kill a group of people. >> columbine wasn't intended as a school shooting. it was primarily intended as a bombing. >> they hoped they would kill as many as 500 people. in the end a lot of their homemade bombs did not detonate. >> school bells have an ominous ring to them. is it about to happen in our schools? >> what columbine did is in the ark of terrorism open a pandoras box. what eric and dylan decide is why don't we just do this terrorist stuff for our own g n grandizement, and they did. we're giving them the platform to do this. we provide the coverage. they do the act, and then we make them the stars. [upbeat music]
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a lot of terrorism threats were dealt with as law enforcement cases. the department of justice and the fbi would find their guy and they would prosecute him. it isn't that wasn't essential, that strategy. it's just we weren't perceiving the threat as something bigger. >> this is the new face of terror, osama bin laden. elusive, mysterious. >> bin laden's economic training was in public administration. so he brought the sensibilities of a businessman to terrorism when he creates al-qaeda. >> he gives orders via the internet. >> when it comes to issues like motive, money, network he's one of the few in the world that has all the various components. >> bin laden who'd been a de facto, turned on the united
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stes. >> he w angry at the lingering american presence in saudi arabia. and the war was over. it was seen as this great insult to have non-muslims in the country defending it. >> i first heard the name osama bin laden in "the new york times." >> amidst these remote mountains of afghanistan are the various hiding places of one of the world's most wanted men, osama bin laden. >> the correspondent and peter and the cameraman, myself, we traveled with bin laden's associates into the mountain. >> a year ago they took refuge here in afghanistan. afghanistan is probably the only country in the world that will accept them. >> for his first television interview, he figured he'd have a world audience. >> you are declared a jihad against the united states. can you tell us why?
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>> the arrogance of the united states regime has reached the point they occupy arabia, the holiest place of muslims who are a billion people in the world today. >> what are your future plans? >> translator: you'll see them and hear about them in the media god willing. >> on the eighth anniversary of the u.s. deployment in saudi arabia, osama bin laden's forces bomb two american embassies in africa. >> it was mid-morning in nairobi when a powerful bomb exploded outside the embassy. the building behind the embassy crumballed in concrete and steel, turning the sidewalk red. people onboard incinerated. >> almost simultaneously 415
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mile away, another deadly blast. the target a u.s. embassy in dar es tansania. >> 5,000 people were injured. >> this attack was very sophisticated, very coordinated. this was an enemy we were not prepared for. >> overseas today spent it in east africa. >> and went to we began to be able to trace that to osama bin laden. >> we will not be intimidated or pushed off the world stage by people who do not like what we stand for. >> bin laden's group is suddenly a real player. and the clinton administration decides to do something about him. >> american military struck
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targets in sudan and afghanistan. >> the unmanned tomahawk missile was the pentagon's weapon of choice for surprise aerial attacks aimed at sending a pointed message to accused terrorist kingpin, osama bin laden. >> america has battled terrorism for many years. we have quietly disrupted terrorist groups and foiled their plots, but there will be and have been times when our very national security is challenged and when we must take extraordinary steps to protect the safety of our citizens. >> within minutes of today's attacks in afghanistan and sudan, some in washington were openly questioning the timing of it. >> it was the wag the dog question, about the movie where a president fakes a war to distract the country from news of his sexual dalliances. >> many people believe clinton is trying to distract americans with a shiny object from what really matters, which is his impeachment trouble. for the remainder of his time in
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office. he wouldn't authorize attacks unless the information was absolutely perfect because he anticipated that criticism. >> we came within yards, literally, of taking out osama bin laden himself. >> and he got away, obviously? >> well, by, you know, happenstance, luck. >> bin laden at war with the united states every second of every day. according to counterterrorism officials who tell nbc news, his terror network now operates in 50 countries, training camps in 20. >> we had entered a different era. you had an enemy that's completely a morphus. they can be in yemen, saudi arabia, in paris, london, they can be everywhere. ♪ when heartburn hits fight back fast with new tums chewy bites. fast relief in every bite.
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introducing gig-speed internet from xfinity. finally, gig for your neighborhood too. what's the fear of bin laden today? >> if, in fact, he is trying to mount another attack and all the intelligence senior analysts have said publicly, before congress and on television, that they believe he is, then you end up moving toward american symbols, corporate symbols or tourism, or america stateside. >> by the end of the decade, the american and other foreign intelligence agencies were very much on guard. the chatter on intercepts was the turn of a certain tri, or in this case a millennium, would be historical. >> a man headed across the
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canadian border headed for seattle with a truckload of timing devices. >> the suspect aboard the car ferry from victory, yeah british columbia, but he's acting nervous, suspiciously. >> it was a border guard in washington state, she stopped the man who was the driver and asked if she could look into his trunk. >> authorities fear he was part of a plot to launch a new year's eve attack and that he was not acting alone. there may be a connection to saudi-born terrorist osama bin laden. >> as one u.s. official worries tonight, there's still a lot we don't know. >> it was a new kind of terrorist. the past al qaeda operatives have been given very specific orders and targeting instructions. he's given $12,000 in seed money, told to raise the rest of your funds, recruit your own, bomb, sell whatever you want. >> two quart jars of nitm
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nitroglycerine were in the trunk. >> the ingredients are the same used in the bombing of world trade center in new york. >> heven though authorities appear to have gotten their man, the threat may not yet be over. >> we ended the decade with the clear perception now that we were engages with a terrorist organization that had declared war on us and was determined to carry out more attacks. >> his interest is in achieving a large body count. that is the reality of today's terrorism. >> there's a sabotage have prompted tighter security at airports, border crossings, utilities and tunnels across many states. >> abc news released results from a poll that asks, how concerned are you about the possibility of a domestic terror attack? 73% said they weren't worried. >> the challenge sustaining
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counterterrorism as a policy priority. we shouldn't lose vigilance after january 1. we need to sustain these efforts because the terrorist takes the path of least resistance and strikes where we least expect hem to. >> people across the country have to be lucky every day. terrorists have to be lucky only once. >> if you look back at the '90s in their totality, there was a lot of violence going on in the united states on american soil. >> seek ting 1990s whole, if yo will, and looking at major pift points, columbine, shooting in schools in colorado, the bombing in oklahoma city, the davidian compound in waco were indicative of something deep within the country, something dark was moving in society. >> as the year 2000 approaches, groups that track the group's militia say groups that fear the
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government are growing. >> it's hard to thing of decades that match the 1990s in enormity of attacks directed and designed to get back at the u.s. government. >>hese very powerful subterranean forces were marshalling their strength to plunge us into a new era of violence in the new millennium. >> it was bad enough when all this horror happened somewhere else, but now that the world's become a global village, there is no somewhere else anymore. look out, america, terrorism's come home. >> i think we are in for a long time. you know -- >> of things like this? >> of things like this. this is the new -- the war, the battles of the end of this century and the beginning of the next one. and this country, when we put our mind to it, whether it was the first world war, the second world war or the cold war, we have an enemy. and the enemy are the terrorists who do not believe in what we do, open societies and freedom.
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they're out to kill plain, innocent people. we have to understand -- >> it is a war. >> -- that this is a sustained effort. is there a difference between parody and satire? obviously, parody is man. i don't know. >> well, you know, jerry, my brother, and jim abrams always have an answer for that. >> and i think of -- i don't know. i got to look it up in the dictionary. i'm sure they have wonderful, better descriptions of what the word is. >> parody is essentially a takeoff. >> parody is like what weird al yankovic does. >> i think we're done here.
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