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president trump's first six months in office. the president's job approval rating now at just 38%, its lowest point in cnn polling. enthusiasm breaks against trump, with 47% strongly disapproving of the job president trump has done compared with just a quarter in among his base is getting stronger. >> republicans conservatives and trump voters is down slightly. it needs to go up. they are telling him just enact your program. >> reporter: but the most alarming figure shows the white house's growing credibility crisis, an astonishing 73% of americans do not trust most or all of what they hear from the white house. nearly half of republicans
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agree. americans also weighing in on the president's use of twitter. >> it is a very effective form of communication. i'm not unproud of it. >> reporter: while 45% of americans think the president's tweets are effective, 72% believe his tweets send the wrong message to world leaders. >> i don't think it's helpful in terms of legislation moving ahead. >> reporter: 70% say the president tweets too often in response to television news, an issue that played out in real time on monday when president trump tweeted about senator richard blumenthal after he appeared on cnn's "new day." the president repeatedly attacking the democratic senators war record in a series of tweets throughout the day. >> i have no idea about what is by this bullying. >> reporter: the president also going after the "new york times" after they published a story
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about vice president pence positions himself for a possible run in 2020 if trump bows out. trump also falsely accusing the media of not covering u.n. sanctions on north korea, after cnn covered the story extensively all weekend. the president's tweet came at the same time jake tapper was reporting on the story. and the president seems to be taking no time away from cable news or tweeting. he tweeted a total of 13 times just yesterday, and today for the first time during this working vacation we do expect to see the president in front of the cameras, it will be a briefing on the opioid crisis. chris and alisyn? >> joe, we'll watch for that. thank you very much. let's bring in our panel. we have cnn politics reporter chris cillizza, cnn political analyst john avlon and cnn political commentator errol
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lewlie louis. his approval rating at 38% approval, 56% of respondents disapprove. that is the lowest level in the cnn poll. let's look at what happened to his approval rating in the past few months it dipped from where it was in february march, 45% and now it's 38%. here's context of where other presidents were, every president in recent memory was higher, some of them much higher lix kennedy, eisenhower, and president trump at 38%, the closest was clinton with 44%. >> these are historic lows in terms of the top line and the bottom line the polls when you dig in is devastating. only a quarter of americans right now believe what they hear from the white house is true, a
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quarter, and barely 50% of republicans. so that isn't a credibility gap. that's a credibility chasm, one of their own making and speaks to the ways he's diminished the office at this point. people don't believe what's coming out of the white house. that's a national tragedy and he's responsible for it. >> errol in terms of looking at trust, the quantification of what john is saying, 24% say they believe what's coming out of the white house. on though he has support you have over eight in ten republicans still say they back the president, which you should get the home team, 80%, 90% not uncommon but to only have half believe you, how do you make sense? >> this is the trump effect. we watched it through the campaign. you ask people do you believe what this man is saying ? no. do you support him? yes. this is in some ways an indication of the kind of partisanship we've seen going on, the polarization of the
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country. they like what he's doing, they approve of the tweeting or that they believe what he says, you know, if all of those things are gone but you still support the person, you've got to start asking what his poas politics t into in this country. >> the president talked about how his base is stronger than ever. those i've spoken to on panels they confirm that, feel just as strongly about him as they did on election day but the numbers tell a different story. so in terms of strongly approve, in february 73% of republicans
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strongly approved, then it was 69%, today it's 59%. let's dig in more in terms of the different demographics his approval among white non-college voters is at 53%. a couple months ago it was at 59%. >> also have to remember he got two out of every three of those voters during the election. that was a really sensitive voters that we have, and the reason i bring that up is, job numbers used to be pillary by the president and now touted. >> chris, your thoughts? >> to add one thing to chris cuomo's point, i looked at the jobs number yesterday because the president tweeted we ignore his successes. i wanted to look at job creation, it's easily measured. over the first seven months of
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this year about 1.25 million jobs have been created. in the last, in the seven months of 2016 1.35 million jobs had been created. there is positive growth but we are not, this is not a surge unlike we've seen before. one thing on the poll i want to touch on and alisyn you mentioned this, the strongnumbe the strong disapproval number. i look at that, what you're seeing in a lot of ways is base intensity. that's how much do the people who love you and hate you love and hate you. there's a huge disparity there, strong approval numbers for the president, broadly speaking not just among republicans but broadly speaking are very low. right, 24, 47, good graphics, people. that's a big problem and it's not necessarily a huge problem right now for donald trump. you know who that's a big problem for? every republican on the ballot in 2018 because if the base of
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the republican party is not excited and enthusiastic midterm elections are almost always a battle of the two bases, and if you have a lot more enthusiasm among democrats than among republicans that kind of enthusiasm gap creates big turnout problems, and losses in midterm elections. >> the big headline from this could be if you want to be rosy about it, i guarantee you the president's people are going to be rosy when they're looking at it, there is opportunity within this poll, because it does seem that most of the problems are self-inflicted. when you look into the numbers, the tweeting is hurting him, not that he tweets. one of his advisers said yesterday they believe it's the most powerful political tool of the moerdern era, no president s had a bigger hammer to swing. however how he's swinging and what he's swinging at it hurting him. look at your screen, too much about what's going on in the media. remember he blames us. he says you don't cover what matters. look at his tweets, he sets the
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tone on things that people say 70% of the time he shouldn't be talking about. >> yes, look, he's tweeting more about attacks on the media than about jobs, the military and other categories. >> almost combined sometimes. >> so this is a bit of wanting to play the victim. >> a correctable error. >> sure, of course it is, but first, look, anyone who is trying to find good news in this poll it's like ronald reagan joke, there must be a pony in here somewhere, you know, this is a bad poll in almost every way and yes, you can say if we're down to 38% in six months, only way to go is up except maybe if you fall down another five, ten points. there's probably a floor here somewhere is the more accurate metaphor. chris, one second. the other point i make it's easy to say the president shouldn't be tweeting. if from a national perspective and administration perspective that's the right thing. i argue from a citizen perspective we want the president to keep tweeting. >> absolutely. >> it's a way for us to see exactly what he's thinking in real time. >> never had access to a
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president's inner workings. >> even'results are disturbing it helps us in the media and as citizens to hold him accountable. >> chris, you have a point? >> to chris cuomo's point about this is a correctable problem. in theory it's a correctable problem but we know -- donald trump isn't going to change his stripes. he is not suddenly going to stop tweeting. he's not suddenly going to take the high road in all these situations. he is a 71-year-old man. this is who he is. i mean, i think we need to -- should he? clearly the polls suggest he should tweet less about things he sees on cable news but that's not new. it's not as though most people said i love tweets about cable news prior. he could change it, he's not going to. >> i'm saying within the poll you're doing these things that are getting you in trouble. you have people who are relatively sanguine about their
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lives, the confidence base within this poll for people is pretty good. it's nice to have a positive status quo as a president and you have a big hunger for change, a nice combination of effects but these are self-inflicted wounds. >> even if you gave the feed over to other people to add more stuff, he could continue tweeting about rosie o'donnell, whatever he wants to talk about but make sure the story of the day, the week, the good stats you want to promote there's a coherent story being told. >> the story of the day yesterday if you followed his tweets seemed to be his feud with senator richard blumenthal, democrat of connecticut. >> it has been an interesting
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background in terms of deferment, four or five deferments, lack of military service. why go after an opponent who did end serving in the marine reserve, when you did not do that yourself? >> well, this is the trump style, right, this is how he dispatched, you know, over a dozen republican opponents in the primaries last year. what he does is try and get inside your head, try to make you sort of brand you as something very, very negative, sort of make everybody believe and make you maybe half believe it yourself, try and quiet you down a little bit and the fact that he appears to be a hypocrite the fact that he got these deferments and it seems to have not impeeleded his ability to walk every golf course in america whenever he wants doesn't seem to make any difference at all. that's not what this is about. he's not trying to lay out a factual case against senator blumenthal or anybody else. >> it spins him in the wrong direction. i get it. blumenthal is vulnerable. you laid about something. >> so is president trump. >> didn't lie about his service record.
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he just didn't serve. certainly that doesn't give him high ground. it's a subjective argument. again on a day where he could have been celebrating 200 days as president and flagging all of his different pluses, he attacked a senator, who isn't even really highly relevant to the president directly, and he did it and he did it again and and again. it's not the first time. the last time he attacked a senator for coming on the show he got it wrong about whether or not we asked him about his military record. yesterday he was upset about the senator and he got it wrong about us covering north korea. it gets him out of sorts. >> of course it gets him out of sorts but that's his natural mode. look -- >> out of sorts? >> when he's in his zone is when he's out of zone. it's great to know the president is watching. we're well beyond hypocrisy. on vietnam the president said sex in the 19 70s was his own personal vietnam. >> avlon loves that line. he'll use it any chance he can
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get. up next, much more is in this cnn poll. americans feelings about the president, and why he has fallen short on his biggest campaign promises. the big question will be will the president do anything different? will he follow kellyanne's advice and get back to his agenda? we'll discuss next. i make it easy to save $600 on car insurance, so being cool comes naturally. hmm. i can't decide if this place is swag or bling. it's pretzels. word. ladies, you know when you switch, you get my bomb-diggity discounts automatically. ♪ no duh, right? [ chuckles ] sir, you forgot -- keep it. you're gonna need it when i make it precipitate.
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poll, and by the way, these aren't even the worst numbers to come out in a poll recently. cnn's numbers put about a middle to better picture of reality for the president. 36% of americans consider the administration's first six months a success, specifically they say president trump is lagging on the key issues that propelled him to the white house, immigration, taxes, health care. let's bring back our panel, chris cillizza, john avlon, errol louis. chris cillizza, i didn't say it but it looms large in this poll, don't talk about the job numbers say his base, talk about wages and the economic reality is wage growth is stagnating. trump hit that heavy and often in the campaign. it is haunting him right now. >> i mean, i always say that if the economy is not great or people don't feel like the economy is great, every other issue doesn't really matter.
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that's been the case well before it's the economy, stupid, in the 1992 campaign, but that i think crystalized it for folks, so yes. issues that hit people every day, day in, day out, we know politically speaking we have the biggest ramifications on how they vote. so the economy the other number i saw there, chris, that i'd be worried about if i was donald trump or republicans. 31-62 on health care, approve/disapprove. health care is an issue. barack obama learned that lesson in 2010 and frankly in 2014 as did a lot of democrats who lost. health care is an issue that touches people daily, weekly, monthly, it is an issue they are affected by in ways that foreign policy, for example, they don't feel affected by day in and day out. that number on health care particularly given what his mandate was, get elected, he ran every single speech, had at the top of it, repeal and replace health care. i think it is very unlikely that comes to pass. polling would suggest people
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don't even want that to come to pass at this point, so republicans are kind of caught betwixt and between there. but economy and health care, jobs, wages, pay attention to polling on that the most, because i think those are the things that people we know historically vote on as opposed to tell a pollster how they feel about. >> erroll here's what i believe the white house would say, health care is congress's fault. he wanted repeal and replacement. that's what he hits hard in his tweets and in terms of the economy what the white house would say is the stock market is going gangbusters breaking records every single day and the jobless numbers are at the lowest that they've been in decades and they want credit for some of that. >> that's right. look he's got a story to tell, the administration has a good story to tell at this point, whether or not they actually made this happen or not we'll let everybody else figure out. what they do have to worry about though is if the downturn happens you're going to see a cascading effect because a lot of these issues you go through
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them one by one but they're really the economy, asked four or five different ways. if you're not making enough, all of a sudden health care goes from bad to catastrophic, housing from difficult to impossible. immigration starts to trickle in because you start to wonder hey maybe i'm not making enough because of those immigrants or something like that, and then you start to see a much deeper sort of political problem. so the fact that they're at parity, the fact that the stock market is at record highs, the fact that they are in fact creating jobs, that's the way the pollsters ask it, but really what they're asking about is are these good jobs? is it changing your life? does it enable you to cover the bills, help your family, and do all the things you always wanted to do. >> is it what you promised? the context matters. we know the white house is going to say that about congress because they did. kellyanne came out and said his numbers are down, we blame congress. you had congressmen come on yesterday saying it ain't us, show some leadership. they have their own political battle there but the economic reality i think is much more pushing. they tried this immigrant
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argument last week. they tried to say the immigrants are taking your jobs. there is no strong domesteconoma to suggest that but not for minimum wage in the administration speaks to that, not pushing businesses to deal with wage structures, that speaks to that. >> and look i think you're making a point that given the president's populist tone, beyond the demonizing of the other create coalition, he said he'd focus on wages. those haven't grown but let's just, you know, the president's impulse has been, it shows something in common sense that has to resonate with the white house. first of all the only thing he's not underwater on is national security. second strongest is the economy. objectively these are the two areas where he seems to be getting the most credit from the american people and he's doing best. his national security team even senators who disagree with him will acknowledge has been excellent. jim mattis at defense, mcmaster
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at national security council second time around and kelly he was in homeland. that's a strong line-up and he's getting credit from the american people. the economy also doing well under this president but it shows still he's underwater. it shows the strengths and many weaknesses of this administration. >> chris that brings us to this new report about climate change, described as sweeping comprehensive, it has been signed off on by 13 federal agencies, it shows one of the conclusions that climate change is happening p, it's happening faster than some models t is dangerous the amount much temperature that will increase over the next years. >> we're doing it. >> that human activity is conclusive conclusively behind it. that's not how the trump administration sees climate change, at least not from what they've shared with us. as you know the president said he believes there's some connectivity to human activity, whatever that means. >> yes. >> so this is only a draft report. the "new york times" obtained a
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copy of it. we have the reporter on our program later on in the show. so the question is, what does the trump administration do about this new report? >> two things, alisyn. one, he's been very vague about his views on it on climate change and whether it's manmade. he has sort of said i don't know, it could be, might not. i think it's telling that this report was leaked out for fear that it would be suppressed otherwise. i think that speaks to the chilling effect that you see in some of the fearfulness that you see within the broader government bureaucracy as it relates to the ideology and belief system of the trump administration. we don't usually focus on stuff like that. we focus on the president and his inner circle, but the way in which they conduct their business has a broad effect on agencies that we don't hear about every day, and issues like this, that are obviously of critical import. how do they handle it? well, it's now out there, so it
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makes it more difficult for them to not talk about it. you know, my guess is to say they will say well, we were always going to release this, that this is a problem with leaks, and they'll go there, because that's ground that is very consistent with what he believes and wants to focus on. >> i would listen for the phrases "deep state" and "obama scientists" to be used to explain some of this. >> all right, panel, thank you very much for all of the perspectives. also north korea seething over the latest u.n. sanctions accusing the u.s. of trying to start a nuclear war. we have a live report for you next.
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north korea's foreign minister telling -- foreign minister saying that north korea will not put its nuclear program on the negotiating table under any circumstances. will ripley is live for us in beijing with more. will? >> reporter: alisyn, here in beijing china being north korea's largest trading partner by far have said within the last few hours they are prepared to pay a financial price for this punishing round of economic sanctions, a $1 billion economic assault on the north korean regime led by kim jong-un and big diplomatic win for the trump administration, a 15-0 vote by the u.n. security council, even here in china which never approved sanctions after missile tests, only nuclear tests. they are ready to go all-in but the north koreans also doubling down, promising a physical response against the united states for what they consider a violent violation of the national sovereignty. these sanctions cut off their main exports, and their access to international financial institutions. they could cut north korean
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exports by as much as a third but i can tell you i was in north korea back in june speaking with officials about this. this does not come as a surprise. they will find ways to get around the sanctions and continue to test the weapons which experts say could potentially reach much of the mainland u.s. in a matter of months with that icbm. >> it's gotten to be a very dicey situation, the thing that matters most to the united states is the thing that north korea wants to discuss the least, its nuclear capabilities. will ripley, thank you very much for that entrenched reporting. so these new poll numbers bring up a lot of themes the ability to believe, be believed by for this president, and why that is. the tweeting, the social media comes to mind. his supporters will say it's his most powerful tool, but is it also what's holding him back? we discuss it next. (class) ewwww! (boy) sorry. (dad) don't worry about it.
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president watches a lot of tv, sees it as his strength, tweets a lot, some of his advisers believe it's his most powerful political tool but what he focuses on and ignores is
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just as important. great example yesterday. we had senator richard blumenthal on the show talking about the russia investigation. the president didn't like it, and we know that because he started tweeting during "new day" about senator blumenthal, not what he was discussing but the senator personally talking about what a liar he was, about his vietnam record and how brave he said he was, and now he gets to judge collusion, and the twit ear tacks just went into the entire afternoon, and all of them were basically off topic. remember, it was -- he wasn't. senator blumenthal has replied to this. this isn't the first time it happened, the first time the senator was on the show the president attacked him the same way. the senator said he was bullied. we should point out blumenthal was in the marine reserves during the war. trump was draft eligible as well but he sought multiple deferments, never served. that's a little bit about the
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intrigue there. how do you feel about trump's obsession? we've got some instincts in the new cnn poll. seven out of ten of you say he does it too much. on top of it, trump's tweets about what he sees on tv news are often wrong. proof, monday at 4:15 p.m. he tweeted his frustration the media wasn't covering the u.n. sanctions against north korea. we covered it all morning. jake tapper was covering it when he tweeted that. >> north korea is seeking revenge against the united states led by nikki haley unanimous lay dotted the toughest sanctions yet against that country. >> the most famous inaccuracy so far was trump blasting the media for mischaracterizing his conversation with the prime minister of australia. then transcripts leaked out showing that the conversation was everything the media said it was, and in fact worse. so let's discuss his tendencies on his poll numbers. we have cnn senior media
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correspondent host of "reliable sources" brian stelter and cnn media analyst bill carter. so bill, you're out there in los angeles, what do you make of the tweeting? do you like it it? help him or hurt him? >> personally think it's great in a sense we get unfiltered view of his point of view on all these topics. i think it's interesting, yesterday it was raining at the golf course and so he had time on his hands and -- well when he has time on his hands he does two things. he watches tv and he tweets. and really if you think about it, he probably could be getting information on other topics, learning more about north korea, he could be learning about climate change for example, but he's more interested in topics that are about him and so he's watching news, he reacts to that, and he comes across in a very personal way in attacking blumenthal which we get a view of what he's really like there. he reacts when someone tweets
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him. he hases to come back at them, and we know what that means, and maybe that means something in the future when an international leader comes at him. we get insight from it. >> brian what's really instructive in the cnn polling is 70% as chris just showed us of people think the president tweets too much about what he sees on tv news. and so that suggests that if he could stop, if he could somehow control the twitter compulsion he could turn around all of his poll numbers. if that's something that's really bugging people that's an easy one to fix. >> i don't know how he can improve the huge portion of the country that believes his white house is not honest. that would take a long time, but you're right, there can be gradual improvements if his tweets were more on message then again we get into the issue what does on message mean? the message is the chaos and the fighting and the battling that is a lot of the message. he could have been tweeting about that ied at that mosque, the target in minnesota, he
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could have tweeted about poppy harlow report on the opioid epidemic. lot of topics he could have been tweeting about that were on television. as you said, bill, it comes back to what the personal issues are. >> we lost three servicemembers, he could have been tweet being that. you have the "new york times" reporting on this climate change examination, 13 different federal agencies. that is going to be good test for this administration, bill, because it's going to go to the credibility factor. you got all these scientists from the government, the white house, the sur fwats are going to spin it deep state, obama scientists. it's going to the credibility. if you can't believe your own scientists, what are the people left to judge this administration by, if they can't believe their own reports? >> well, if you already have decided before the science comes in, their policy is based on a decision they've already made and the fact that the scientists have come out and said this because they're afraid it will be suppressed says an awful lot about what's going on. it's not really about the facts
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or the information. they want a political point of view they're selling, and you know, it becomes really risky for us, you know, in the media because we want to get information, we want to trust information and they are not particularly interested in giving us straight information. >> let me offer a note of optimism about this. this document, there's concern about it being suppressed. what happens? it gets out through the "new york times" and publishes it. the new cnn poll the data showing the lack of credibility in the white house, the media is operating as a check and balance and the american people are hearing the coverage and hearing the reporting and understanding i think what is being said and heard and written about. there's a lot of awareness of the lack of credibility, of the credibility chasm that john avlon referred to earlier this hour. i think it means the journalism that's happening is being interpreted, it's being appreciated. it's not being dismissed by the american people as fake news. >> so bill, let's talk about something that does appear to be fake, that the president has fallen for, and that is this twitter account. a twitter account experts believe was a russian bot
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masquerading as a trump super fan named protrump45. >> we have no idea who this is. >> this is really confusing. >> look at what nicole also known as russian bot said, trump working hard for the american people, thanks, heart. now that does sound somewhat robotic, frankly. >> it does. >> now in the light of day. >> it does. >> twitter has suspended this account because they say so many people complained that this appeared to be some sort of bot, not a humanoid, not a real human. however, president trump retweets it regularly and says thanks, and false words. >> again, it's because it's about him. he wants to jump on top of it before he gives it any thought, and we see this, you know, pure
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id from him, it comes out. it's another example of that. >> the super ego is that what you're saying? >> maybe it is, yes. >> president obama read ten letter from americans. president trump could reply to ten americans on twitter every day, real americans. some claim she's real, others claim she's a bot. he could be replying and engaging with voters as opposed to tweeting insults about democratic senators and the media. >> thank you, nicole. >> that's my point of all the people he's engaging with it could be this strange account. he's not suggesting he's going to help that person if it is a person. that's what's so confusing. >> brian, he's not answering questions at all as you pointed out. really not answering questions. >> not ours, that's for sure. >> gentlemen, thank you. >> thanks. all right, some big sports news, quarterback jay cutler, he was supposed to move into the broadcast booth. now he's back in the game. what is behind his return to the
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so this is an interesting story. when you think about professional football players, fitness comes to mind, they're amazing athletes. but this quarterback who has been in the league for a long time, he's now back in the game, supposed to be a broadcaster. the miami dolphins brought him back, he's raising eyebrows
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because of his apparent lack of enthusiasm, coy wire with the "bleacher report" at least for cardio. he doesn't seem to have a lot of enthusiasm >> that's right, chris. retirement was looking pretty good for jay cutler. he and his wife had a vacation plan they talked about as a game analyst, but then he was offered $10 million and accepted it to play the game he loves, for about five months. so you'd think he'd be really excited. here he was yesterday. >> come here to help and you know, get back into football. we'll kind of see how it goes. the good thing is i play quarterback so i don't have to be in that great of cardiovascular shape, but i'll be fine. >> see how it goes. don't have to be in shape. i'll be fine. excited is not the word one would describe to use the impression cutler gave fans yesterday about potentially taking over for the injured ryan tannehill there in miami. 11-year vet has 33 days to get in shape for the dolphins season
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opener. two-time super bowl champ vince wilfork is excited. he does not have to make weight anymore. announced his retirement yesterday with an epic video. check this out. >> hey! no more cleats, i'm moving on to smoked meat fellows. peace out. i'm out of here, later! >> wilfork used this video to announce a farewell tailgate there at foxborough ahead of the patriots regular season opener september 7th, wanted to share that with you and bring some levity to you. >> thank you very much. you accomplished that. great to see you. one of our top stories north korea refusing to give up its nuclear weapons and threatening the u.s. what's next in this showdown, general michael hayden joins us. it's not a question, it's a thing. take on summer right with ford, america's best-selling brand. now with summer's hottest offer. get zero percent for seventy-two months
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the war of words escalating between the u.s. and north korea, in the wake of strong economic sanctions unanimously approved 15-0 by the u.n.
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security council. north korea saying it will "make the u.s. pay dearly for all the heinous crime it commits against the state and people of this country. the u.s. is sadly mistaken if it considers its mainland a safe haven for being on the other side of the ocean." let's get reaction from the general michael hayden, cnn national security analyst and former director of the cia and nsa. first thing you can do for us, general, and thank you for being with us as always. >> thank you. >> is interpret the significance of the rhetoric. is this the kind of talk that you take north korea at face value or is this hype? >> no, you need to cabin that over here, chris. we've seen an awful lot of this kind of rhetoric from the north koreans, so i wouldn't attach any special meaning to it. now, that said, the reality behind it is gradually, inexorablely changing they are increasing their capacity to actually do some of the things they're saying. but the rhetoric is pretty
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standard. >> how do you reconcile what we keep hearing that there are no good options, it's very hard, these are the latest round of sanctions. sanctions don't seem to work unless china and russia pull back the labor and direct trade. you're not really going to woo north korea. how do you reconcile that with this obvious escalation by the u.s. government not in terms of the stakes but making this a priority. we're raising its priority but we don't seem to have better options. how do you reconcile the two? >> that's a great question, chris and frankly the obama administration deserves some fair criticism for their strat sick patience which was frankly paying this problem forward, not solving it on their watch and passing it forward to the trump administration, and the clock's ticking. the north koreans are becoming more capable, more threatening at least in their capacity to do things. look, chris, sanctions are slow moving.
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they're like rust as opposed to an explosion which are identical chemical reactions but one obviously takes a lot more time. we'll see if over time the sanctions -- the trump team deserves some credit for getting these sanctions. they are very tough. they kept the russians on side. they got the chinese to agree to them as well but this will be a slow-moving mechanism and chris, look, the range of available options are pretty much where the clinton, bush and obama administrations were. sanctions, diplomacy, leaning on the chinese, leading to some sort of eventual negotiations. >> that's the hope. the risk is the more you push the situation, if you don't have good options, you might wind up creating a flash point. so then there's another aspect that comes out today that is kind of a reflection of our bizarre new political reality. the president retweets an article from fox about
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intelligence from the u.s. government that spy satellites detected north korea moving anti-ship cruise missiles to a patrol boat. we haven't been able to confoirm th this but the president retweeted it. isn't it odd? why would the president retweet a fox article about something that comes from u.s. intel? wouldn't he know whether or not this is a reality without getting it from fox news? >> yes, that is most unusual to have the president do that sort of thing. chris, i mean, look it's an echo of what happened in february, when he retweeted, appears to have retweeted accusations that president obama had wiretapped trump tower. he's the president. can he get the answer with a phone call. the same with this. so i'm not sure what that adds to the body of human knowledge on what the north koreans are doing. chris, can i make one additional point, too. some really sage observers are now pointing out that we need a
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wholistic approach towards nuclear proliferation and if the president's over here discounting the iranian deal and frankly press accounts are suggesting he's telling his team to come up with reasons why he can decertify the iranians, what does that mean, do we have any hope for negotiations with the north koreans? >> and the linking thought is what? >> the linking thought is why would the north koreans seriously enter into negotiations with us if we are now backing away from an agreement with the iranians, with for all of its flaws the american intelligence community is saying broadly the iranian s are observing. >> interesting observation and leads us to a larger point reflected in the new poll, the idea of credibility, the word counting from the white house. as former director of the cia and nsa, what do you make of that, one in four americans trusting what comes out of the
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white house, only one in two of people within the president's own party believing what comes out of the white house. what kind of contagion can a lack of credibility become? we . that was one of the great fear of people like me, the announcements, tweets, positions taken by the white house on important and less important issues were going to erode overall confidence in what the president and the white house says, and when we come to that point where everyone's got to take america's word for something, a lot of people are going to be very skeptical, and chris, look. let me give you my personal conclusion. i take everything the president says seriously, but just because the white house says it now, that's not definitive in and of itself for me, and i think that's where most americans are now, too. that's a great sadness, and a danger. >> another example of exactly what you're suggesting, playing out right now. the president has called climate
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change, everything from a hoax invented by the chinese to not really understood and maybe there's something to it. he's vacillated at best. it's become a little bit of a pet for the right fringe of his party playing with the realities of science. you now have government scientists in a report approved by some 13 agencies that suggest what most in the scientific community say is obvious at this point, climate change is real. the temperature change in a positive direction is real, that it is more than a statistical anomaly, and that human behavior is central to this incident. they leaked this report through the "new york times" because they were afraid the administration would suppress it. >> yes. the magic word, chris, came at the end of your statement there, the word "leak." i'm an intelligence guy. i oppose an awful lot of leaks, certainly any leak of classified information, but what bureaucracies do when they feel as if their views

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