invented by the chinese to not really understood and maybe there's something to it. he's vacillated at best. it's become a little bit of a pet for the right fringe of his party playing with the realities of science. you now have government scientists in a report approved by some 13 agencies that suggest what most in the scientific community say is obvious at this point, climate change is real. the temperature change in a positive direction is real, that it is more than a statistical anomaly, and that human behavior is central to this incident. they leaked this report through the "new york times" because they were afraid the administration would suppress it. >> yes. the magic word, chris, came at the end of your statement there, the word "leak." i'm an intelligence guy. i oppose an awful lot of leaks, certainly any leak of classified information, but what bureaucracies do when they feel as if their views cannot, cannot get a fair hearing, is you

create pressure, and this kind of information comes out one way or another, and now you've got the "new york times" with the entire report out there. i think largely because, as you suggest, these folks felt this would not get a fair hearing. not that it had to be accepted, chris, but that it would not get a fair hearing within the government. >> 13 government agencies, it will be interesting to hear the white house -- i never heard of the white house debunking something that made its way through that many agencies especially with that process. general hayden, thank you so much, as always. appreciate the perspective. >> thank you, chris. all right and thanks to you, our international viewers for watching, for you "cnn newsroom" is next. for our u.s. viewers there is a lot of news in this new cnn poll. what you say? let's get after it. >> since we've had polling there's never been a low this low this early in the presidency. >> thishis approval rating is d slightly. it needs to go up.

>> you're dealing with three-quarters of the country not trusting you. >> general kelly is the chief of staff, president trump is the chief of twitter. >> richard blumenthal has been in his cross-hairs basically from the beginning. >> i will not be distracted by this bullying. >> it's impossible to overstate the dangerous associated with a rogue, brutal regime. >> kim's regime is lashing out at the u.s. for pushing through a tough round of economic sanctions. >> we hope north korea will realize the best path forward is to cease the testing and negotiate. >> welcome to your "new day." president trump's approval rating hitting a low point in a brand new cnn poll. 38% of americans approve of how the president is handling his job, six months into his term. even more alarming there is widespread mistrust of what they hear from the white house. >> the poll numbers also suggest the president is not doing himself any favors with his

frequent tweet storms. case in point, the repeated attacks on a democratic senator's war record, after the senator appeared here on our show yesterday. the president also falsely claiming that the media is not covering the sanctions against north korea. we have all of this covered for you,. joe? >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. call it what you will. this poll appears to paint a bleak picture for president trump after 00 days in his administration. for most presidents this is a period of a honeymoon with the voters, but this poll appears to show or at least show some evidence that the russia investigation as well as the sparse record of legislative accomplishment is taking its toll. sobering assessment from the american people of president

trump's first six months in office. the president's job approval rating now at just 38%. its lowest point in cnn polling. enthusiasm breaks against trump, with 47% strongly disapproving of the job president trump has done, compared with just a quarter who say they strongly approve. despite the president's insistence that support among his base is getting stronger, our new poll shows otherwise. 59% of republicans strong lay proving of the president, down 14 percent since february, a reality senior adviser kellyanne conway acknowledged this week >> his approval ratings among republican and conservative trump voters is down slightly. it needs to go up. they are telling him just enact your program. >> reporter: but the most alarming figure shows the white house's growing credibility crisis an astonishing 73% of americans do not trust most or all of what they hear from the white house. nearly half of republicans agree. americans also weighing in on the president's use of twitter.

>> it is a very effective form of communication. i'm not unproud of it. i have all these millions of people and it's a great way to get a message out. >> reporter: while 45% of americans think the president's tweets are effective, 72% believe his tweets send the wrong message to world leaders. >> i don't think it's hefg moving ahead. >> 70% said the president tweets too often to response to television news an issue that played out in real time monday when the president tweeted out about senator blummenle that after his appearance on "new day" the president attacking the democratic senator's war record in a series of tweets throughout the day. >> i have no idea about what is in his mind. i will not be distracted by this bullying. >> reporter: the president also going after the "new york times," after they published a story about vice president pence positioning himself for a possible run in 2020 if trump bows out.

trump also falsely accusing the media of not covering u.n. sanctions on north korea, after cnn covered the story extensively all weekend. the president's tweet came at the same time jake tapper was reporting on the story. polls be what they may the president continues to watch cable news as well as tweet. he tweeted 13 times yesterday, so far twice this morning. we do expect to see the president for the first time during this working vacation and a briefing on the opioid crisis later today. chris and alisyn? >> joe, thank you very much. let's discuss with the panel, cnn politics reporter and editor-at-large, chris "the point" cillizza, cnn political analyst john avlon and associate for "real clear politics" a.b. stoddard. a.b. what pops out to you in the poll numbers? >> it's interesting if you look inside the numbers on the credibility crisis, what was so interesting to me was looking at

older voters 50 and over and non-college whites, the base of the president's support, who he could sort of dupe into believing whatever he says, he uses his twitter feed to tell them that everything he doesn't like on cnn, the "new york times" or whatever it is, is fake, the polls that are showing, not looking good for him are fake, and if you look inside this poll, at the base of his support, those voters i just mentioned, they're not buying it either. they're there in the twitter, the tweets are misleading. they're there watching him knowing that he's tweeting after he watches too much tv. they think that the twitter is, his tweets are potentially a liability in terms of the signals that it sends to world leader. what do you believe coming out of this white house? the numbers are low with them as well. so it really is, he thinks it's a weapon in his arsenal to try to continue to tell them that bob mueller is dirty or

conflicted or all this is a witch hunt or fake, but they know that the don jr. meeting took place that that email said the russian government was interested in helping his father, and that he ultimately dictated a false statement to defend his son. they actually, some of this is really seeping in, that what they're being told is not true. even if you buy that looking at this polling, chris, that he never promised to be presidential, he wasn't going to be an honest president, and all this stuff, upheld the stature of the office, if you look at all those numbers, the numbers are sort of, this businessman manager are staggering. can he bring effective change to the country by 12 points the change the country needs? can he manage the government country? no, by 20 points. this is really going to hit home with this white house that he >> john i don't remember him promising not to be an honest president. but i take -- >> effectively.

>> i take a.b.'s point perfectly. so all of the details she just gave in terms of the credibility erosion lead us to our headline and the overarching issue of his approval numbers. so let'su.s. remind people one more time it's at 38% approval. disapprove is 56% of the country, of respondents, and if you just put that, you can look at where he himself has been over the months, and that's his lowest. he was at his highest at 45% in march. s' hung around 44% and now it's at 38%. what's next? >> something a good bit lower, because his strongly approve numbers are even lower than this. what seems to be at this point his floor. he's got a core group of around a quarter of americans who strongly support him and that's a solid support. to be underwater this entire time, to be consistently at the lowest historic number, that's something you can't spin your way out of. this poll is disastrous for the administration if you dig deeper

into it. three-quarters of americans don't believe what they hear from the white house, including over 50% of republicans, that only a majority of americans are basically embarrassed to have him as president. only 34% are proud to have him as president of the united states. these are gut check emotional numbers that have to do with trust worthiness about honor, about decency, about dignity in the white house, things that you'd hope could be personified by the president, and instead you've got the opposite. these are deeply troubling. >> let's look a little bit more at the trust issue. 60% say trump not honest, not trustworthy. eroding base, the president was tweeting a lot yesterday about his base is stronger than ever, not so, says the numbers. 59% of republicans strongly approve of trump. he still has 70, 80% of people within his party who want him but that is not unusual. home team percentage is usually

90 or better. 58% of non-college whites feel trump can bring needed change. that's a pretty decent number but remember, he got two out of every three of those voters in the election. they were for him like 150%. he needs them. it shows it softening. 50% of non-college whites say trump can manage government effectively, same point there. chris cillizza? >> that's the issue is this is the difference between campaigning and governing. is easy to say i will make america great again. it is more difficult to make america great again. right? this was in some ways frankly although his poll numbers were a lot better this was the challenge that barack obama ran into, when you run hope and change, those are what amorphous qualities to translate into actual governance. donald trump has not done a heck of a lot candidly. he talks about his successes. i went through a bunch of them

yesterday sort of fact checking his tweets. stock market a success, supreme court without question a success, more murky on jobs, more yurk i-en the fight against isis, ms-13, these sorts of things. i think that's how he'll be judged. a.b. makes an important point which is he was elected as the world's greatest deal maker businessman manager, right? people, look at the exit  polling. people didn't think he was honest then. people didn't trust him then. if you look at the exit polling, the exit polling of someone who you would assume lost the election 60% of people not honest and trustworthy, 60% don't think he was presidential. why they zvote for him? change and they thought he'd bring about a management style, a way of doing this because he was a businessman. if he cannot deliver on that fundamental promise, he doesn't have anywhere else to go. >> john, you know, look his supporters here, they have a

longer list than what chris cillizza just pointed out. they think he's rolled back regulations harmful to business and small business. they think illegal border crossings are down. in fact they are down. they think -- there's veterans affairs i remember one of the veterans on the panel said she felt that the wait times were shorter because he was bringing accountability. they see all sorts of things. one thing that seems universal according to our poll even his supporters now feel he could change is the twitter habit. 70% say his tweets are too often about tv news. 72% say his tweets send the wrong message to world leader. we saw this case in point yesterday when richard blumenthal, senator from connecticut, democrat was on our show critical of president trump and president trump was tweeting in real time about richard blumenthal, not about other news that voters would have wanted to hear. >> yes on his 200th day. it's flattering that the president's watching "new day," but i mean, he clearly is so

attached to his social media habit, that poll numbers overwhelming numbers of which saying you know, dial back the tweeting mr. president, focus on doing your job, even though that's the new message from the white house chief of staff he's addicted to it and believes that's the secret to his success are he is to social media what fdr is to radio. we want the president tweeting because we have real time insight into what he's thinking and any sort of edifice of administration tries to project with scripted speeches and all that falls away when we get the ability to hold the president accountable as citizens and journalists as to what he's thinking about. unfortunately it's on the ephemeral, on the attacks against the media and other things he should be looking out for, jobs and the military and it -- >> you're seeing it reflected in the numbers, a.b. stoddard to your point, that the president

talks about what he wants to talk about. sometimes it works for him. we'll see if there's a shift. the tweet that he's put out this morning, first he retweeted something from fox news that was weird because it was like the president following fox for information about his own intelligence agency, but now he just tweeted i will be holding a major briefing on the opioid crisis, a major problem for our country, today at 3:00 p.m. in bedminister, new jersey. >> great. >> bravo for the president. they have the opioid commission, you got christie on it, kellyanne conway on it, it's a huge problem. we have a documentary coming out about it in the fall, poppy harlow is doing some reporting. this is the kind of stuff if he did more of this, that 70% don't tweet number would change. >> i agree. i think he was watching "new day" closely yesterday and he probably paid a lot of attention to poppy harlow devastating reporting on this out of ohio, and it is good news that he's going to get to a policy, an urgent policy matter, an actual

crisis today. but i think that if you look at those numbers on the tweets, are they misleading? do they happen after he watches tv? are they a good signal? are they a bad signal to world leaders? the numbers in the poll, the cnn poll are so high on that, it shows that even his base believes this. they believe it's a liability, and that's the kind of thing that really has to -- john kelly, general kelly the chief of staff, he isn't pretending he can stop this. he's trying to curb it or make it more focused but you know, the president's most, you know, most loyal enthusiastic allies in the white house do not want us to know he spent all of yesterday thinking about senator blumenthal. >> good point. on that note, thank you very much, panel. another top story we're following, north korea is not backing down and vowing revenge in the face of the toughest sanctions yet. what are the options to deal with north korea? we have a member of the house foreign affairs committee with his ideas, next.

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north korea lashing out at the u.s. vowing retaliation over the new u.n. sanctions.

president trump just tweeted moments ago about this. he says after many years of failure, countries are coming together to finally address the dangers posed by north korea. we must be tough and decisive. but north korea says its missiles and nuclear weapons are not on the negotiating table and never will be. joining us now is democratic congressman gregory meeks, he serves on the house foreign affairs committee. thank you for being here in studio. >> thank you, good being with you. >> so the president is pleased at this unanimous 15-0 u.n. security council vote to impose tougher sanctions on north korea, but north korea it appears has only gotten more bellicose as a result of those and you heard, they say they will never negotiate about their nuclear program. where does that leave us? >> first of all, let me say compliments to the president in that hopefully he's understanding what president obama understood that you can't do this america alone, and you've got to work with nations. that's what president obama did when we talked about the iranian

agreement with other nations. so we've got to do that, but now how do you do that and how do you maintain and make sure for example that china locks in and stays with the sanctions because we all have said china is key. >> what is the answer? >> the answer to that is we have to make sure, diplomacy is multilayered, and so we know china does not have an interest for the united states to stay in the region but china does have an interest to be a world player. we have other allies that we've got to work with and china has been trying to deal with them. so we've got to talk to those allies, and we've also got to look at on a long-term basis, i know a lot of individuals were critical of say for example tpp, but those kind of engaging those countries in the region to make sure that they are continually working with us and not just doing separate deals becomes important. >> has china shown any appetite or openness to really doing something critical on north korea? >> well, no, this is the first,

well another indication of what china can do, but what you have to do is to put enough pressure on them and i think not just pressure from the united states. >> how? >> we talk about it's multilateral prussia but other nations saying to china this is important. if you want to continue to do business with us as we're doing we need you to also be strong on north korea, and i think they get that this then hurts them on the world stage also, because they want to stay on the world stage. and we've got to focus on that. >> this wasn't the first tweet that the president sent out this morning about north korea. he also retweeted apparently spotting these anti-ship cruise missiles being loaded onto a patrol boat days ago in north korea. that's curious on a number of levels. why is the president tweeting a fox news story when he could, i

mean this is arguably intelligence he should know from his own administration efforts. why is he using that to get word out to the american people? >> i could never justify what this president is doing. to me he's playing "apprentice" in the white house, and -- it >> meaning what? >> meaning that you know, he's trying to make folks guess. he tells lies. that's what "the apprentice" qu was all about. if you didn't do something you're fired. that's a game show. it's supposed to be real i have tv. it's not real, and he's utilizing that same format to try to govern this country, that is dangerous, and so i would hope that my colleagues particularly my democratic, republican colleagues understand we can't play "the apprentice" game in the white house. i mean -- >> the other confusing thing is that the president is well-known for sig for saying he never telegraphs

his thoughts to his enemies. this comes from what he would call a leak from the u.s. intel agencies sharing it on fox news it's confusing on a bunch of levels. >> if you talk about fake news the only news he seems to want to report is fake news, those that are not verifiable, but when you have networks like cnn and cbs and abc and nbc and all of whom, the "new york times," "the washington post" credible notable press, he says that's fake news. well he goes to things that are clearly not verifiable and it seems to me he is playing a game and he should stop doing it. >> congressman i know you wanted to tell us where you think you're headed on health care. what's happening on capitol hill with health care? >> what i wanted to talk about, because i think what senator mccain said is very, very true. we need to go back to regular order, where you have hearings and ideas being discussed, and working things over in a

bipartisan manner, because health care is too important for us to continue to play partisan politics with. >> and you want medicare for all, yes? >> i would want medicare for all, but i understand that there's got to be an agreement that's worked out. so i don't believe that you wipe out the affordable care act, that you got to work collectively to fix it so that people have quality, affordable care. i remember too vividly, too many americans going bankrupt when they've had a family member or someone within themselves got sick and they couldn't afford it. they thought they had health care but they didn't when they need it, and we have to make sure that doesn't happen. life is so important and we shouldn't play politics with it. >> congressman meeks thank you for being here. chris? president trump and the truth are being put to the test. new cnn poll shows a majority of americans, three in four, don't trust what they hear from the white house. so this is a big deal, a president cannot survive this

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a new cnn national poll really gets to the heart of the trump administration's credibility crisis. one in four, not even, say they trust most of what they hear from the white house. 36% say the president is honest and trustworthy. how big a deal? what do you do about it? we have ana navarro and matt schlapp, chairman of the american conservative union. matt, what do you do about this? >> nobody likes to see these types of numbers chris but i think it's important we're at a point in politics where i didn't get a copy of this poll so i haven't read it thoroughly but if you look at the numbers of congress they're abysmal, the fact we had six republican senators switch their vote on obamacare approval, there's great concern out there amongst democrats and republicans. you have a lot of democrats who are looking at the this strategy of hashtag resistance and they know that's not a good strategy but if you're the president and

looking at these numbers, you know that you've got to steady the ship on these messages that come out of the white house and you have to make sure that you're pushing back on false stories about what their agenda is, and number one, you've got to get accomplishments through congress. you have to repeal obamacare and get a big tax package down. >> how does the president lift his own credibility by attacking the others, the credibility of others, ana? >> i don't think it's about attacking the credibility of others. i think the solution is very simple. start telling the truth. start telling the american people the truth. start taking your job seriously. stop making things up. stop exaggerating. stop outright lying and then repeating it over and over and over again and i think the people around him instead of justifying it, instead of spinning it instead of defending it need to tell him, you are no longer the host of "the apprentice." you're not a used car salesman.

you are the president of the united states and the american people deserve to have to believe you at some point. you know look, matt worked at the bush white house. he was there during -- we had 9/11, we had katrina. in this country of 300 million plus people of 50 states at some point we're going to have a grave natural or manmade disaster. we need to believe our president when he stands behind that podium and speaks to us, and today donald trump has no credibility because he's been president for 200 days and he has lied practically every single one of those days. >> matt schlapp, do you think the president can change? >> i disagree with this whole premise that he's not truthful. i disagree with what ana said there. i actually think we have a very polarized country. we are divided on almost every major issue, and there are people that really despise donald trump that they hate him, and there are big sections of this country that are rooting for him. let me tell you about a the people who are rooting for him,

chris. they don't like everything about him, and they don't like politicians generally and don't like it when things don't get done in congress and the president's going to bear some of the responsibility for that, but the part of trump of president trump that great sections of this country do like is that he is authentic. he does tell you what he thinks. he doesn't put a fine polish on everything. he says it very bluntly. >> how do you square three out of four people thinking he's lying? >> well chris like i said, i haven't delved into your poll. all i will tell you is you got to take some responsibility, all of us do, on the coverage of this. when you call the president a liar, other people do, for 200 days, which i think even on climate change, to hear the coverage to say people like me, who are skeptics over the idea that man is causing the globe to put itself in a position where it's so warm that human life will not be able to sustained,

i'm a skeptic of that. i'm not a liar on that issue. >> you're also not a scientist and -- >> so what? >> when you have 13 agencies from the scientists from the government saying it's a credibility issue. >> it's wrong, chris. >> that's why people don't trust the white house. >> it's wrong for people in the media to say on issues of abortion, on climate change, on the -- >> how is abortion and climate change the same thing, matt? >> it's about science. guess what? you're wrong on the science, many of you who believe that people on the pro-life side aren't looking at the science of it, come on, the science is on my side on the unique human nature of every unborn child. >> it's about ethics and morality, it's not about science. >> just because someone's on the other side please don't call them a liar. >> who is helping -- >> it has -- can i tell you something? >> hold on i get a lot of this. you like to throw a label on something you don't like. i get it, politically persuasive but it's also b.s. a lot of the

time, matt. nobody's making aborgs about science. i didn't bring up the issue. you did, abortion the idea of when life begins guess what? >> is science. >> nobody knows. you can believe it begins at conception, you can believe it begins 40 days after the way the jews in, you can believe in viability. >> i'll just believe in the science. >> that's not what the science is behind climate change. >> each unique life -- >> they're not the same thing. >> the science of when life begins is unquestionable and the question on climate change actually there's a diversity on the science, and we to have political disagreements but i think it's wrong in this country when we call people who have a contrary position a liar, and that's what's dominating the coverage. >> ana that's a fair point. just because you disagree you call someone a liar. i agree with matt. disagreement, but that's also not the case with a lot.

>> matt is very able and we are now chasing this rabbit and talking about abortion and policy disagreements. this is not about policy disagreements. you don't call somebody a liar because they disagree with you. 5 million illegal immigrants he lied about. it's about the crowds at the inaugural. >> it's about the birther thing. there's' pattern here matt and you know it. it's not that people with his heartfelt beliefs about abortion or climate science. >> let me give you something on this. i think your question in the poll said that people are about some of the things they hear about the white house, it's an overwhelming number, nothing anybody who works in the white house wants to see and i think some of the communications chaos that has come out of the white house over the last six months that was front and center with

the white house press briefing, i don't think that helped things and i think the president and his team have to be awfully careful with how they do think we're in a big fight. we're in a big political fight in this country. there are divides, ana and i are both republicans, we have a strong disagreement on the trump agenda. i'm totally for president trump and his agenda. i want what's going to make america better. as we fight, let's have a fair fight on a disagreement on the issues. i think president obama was wrong on a lot of things. i think it was wrong for loretta lynch to use an alias in her email. i think that was duplicitous. >> i don't see the legitimacy of your premise. nobody's coming at president trump because ana navarro of what he believes about abortion. i don't think we know for sure what he does believe about abortion or climate science. >> you just said that. you just said that the administration was going to -- >> you're trying to make this segment about something that it's completely not about. >> no, you.

. you just want to prosecute the president. >> you've talked abortion, you tried to make it about science. it's about the fact the president of the united states goes out and lies either by twitter or in person daily. last week he told us he had phone calls he did not have with people who did not call him on the phone! who he claimed told him things they did not tell him! that is a lie! some of you may choose to believe alternate facts and live in an ultimate universe. some of us choose to believe in a factual universe. >> i don't. let's just do this. the one thing i would say is the following, which is i think, hold the president accountable. hold the white house accountable. i don't have any problem with that, but let's be awfully careful when you throw around the word "lie" on all these positions that the president and the people who support him are taking -- >> give us an example of the president called a liar where it's unfair, matt. >> i watched, i listened to cnn on the drive in, chris, and i heard you characterize those folks that are critics on

climate change as lying about the science, and i think you should take that back. i don't think that's accurate. there's a great diversity of views from scientists, true climatologists, not just people with ph.d. who are liberal professors across the country or embedded in bur ras crassy. auto' not a scientist and neither are you. >> matt it's inherently misleading. i'll say it again. >> that's the same thing as a lie. that's the synonym. >> what you're saying -- well call it what you want. i see the definition of lying as being pretty plain. factual inaccuracy done with intention to deceive. >> right. >> that's the definition of a lie. it's a good one. i think you show own it. >> i like that definition. >> when it comes to how much temperature is changing, when will big shifts happen, that's going to be soft. they don't know. the predictions and the contentions vary. but you have again 13 government agencies, scientists from each

and all saying there are real problems in an absolute effect that is human driven and needs to be addressed. >> right but you're taking one -- >> you attack that premise with nothing other than your feelings about it, that you're skeptical. that starts to take you into the realm of gross deception. >> please, don't -- >> just because you disagree. >> don't insult i'm governed by emotions when it comes to the questions. >> i'm not a scientist. >> neither are you and you don't understand what the scientists are saying. >> 90% plus of the scientific community i don't put it on the basis of how i feel. >> are we here not talking about donald trump being a liar? >> ana -- >> you want to make this a debate about abortion and aabout science because you cannot defend the fact that the president of the united states is a compulsive ta pa thetic daily liar! you can't defend that. you are making us chase. you are down this bath of

abortion. >> you need to relax. >> no, you have thump kool-aid overdose! >> are either of those based on science? >> because it gives you access. >> are either of those based on science by the way i want to know? is trump derangement syndrome scientific? is the kool-aid thing science? >> i might need counseling after this session i'll tell thaw. >> i hear where you're coming from. >> i'll need a hell of a lot more counseling. it's too early in the morning. >> i've never called you a liar. >> when i have a political disagreement with somebody -- >> of course it's not lying. >> maybe some people on the other side -- >> are we doing this again? >> ana it's a legitimate point. just because you disagree with someone -- >> chris what we're talking about is that, no, that's not what we're talking about. we're talking about a huge list published all the time by people who keep track of what donald trump says. >> both are true. >> confirm that they are lies. >> both are true.

>> the "the washington post" politifact, the list is so long that they take out an entire newspaper page. >> ana i know. i developed parts of the list. we report on the list. we do fact checks all the too many. time. matt is making a valid point, is it a little off point but just because you disagree doesn't mean that somebody's a liar. matt, you're right about that. sfwlim' not calling matt a liar. >> i gotcha. matt is right what he's saying about disagreement in general. to ana's point that's not the specific context of our discussion. the president's credibility problem i would suggest there's certainly nothing in the poll that suggests otherwise isn't that people feel that his well-reasoned positions are m a mendacious but when he makes things up that work for him it is transparent and it has eroded trust in him even among his base.

that's a real problem and not nothing to do with any specific issue. >> can i try and answer that this? >> please, matt. >> my view is whether we call this fake news or as a conservative i believe there's a ali liberal slant to most national news outlets. if you look at the harvard study and the coverage of donald trump, it is 70, 80, 80, 85, 90% negative constant negative press on the president, and i do think that it comes down to a different world view on a lot of these folks. you can look at tweets, you can look at statements, you can look at things he has said that turned out to not be accurate, but by the same token, with much of this coverage there's a fundamental disagreement with the president's attacks on these major media institutions, on the swamp, with the bureaucracy in washington that comes out with these studies that you and i have spent too much time talking about. he is taking on these fights which a lot of us are applauding him for, and that his agenda is

a big threat to much of the folks who are guiding the coverage of it and it's overwhelmingly negative. give the guy a shot. the american people are fair. if they don't like his agenda they won't reelect him. cover the policy debate. auto i'll not saying that you don't on every case, i'm just saying it is always skewed almost always in this idea of putting trump in these basket of deplorables as a liar as someone who is unfit and you're not helping the country, because actually that makes people like trump better, because they actually have a lower opinion of many people in the press than they even do of politicians. >> the day the press is more popular than the president of the united states we have a problem. ana final word? >> that's right. >> look i think that the press has got a duty to scrutinize what politicians, what elected leaders say and do, and i think that part of the problem is not only that he lies constantly, but also his hypocrisy. when he goes and talks about

immigration, and yet his resources are calling out and putting out applications for foreign workers when he goes and talks about things made in america, and practically every item that he sold under trump brand is made in china, or somewhere else. >> not a single lie there. not a single lie. >> there is hypocrisy and there is lying in all of that because he wrote in the credibility. >> that's not a lie there. >> let's leave it there. we'll leave it on a difference of opinion. >> okay. >> but ana, matt, i appreciate the debate as always, welcome here. by the way that's an interesting component in the pursuit of truth. it's good to have you both. >> thank you both. >> the president said he would not have time for golfing how do we characterize that? >> it all depends on your definition of time. >> the white house says the president will be working on his 17-day vacation but he's also playing golf. and he has played a lot of golf. the numbers are in and the president spent one out of every four days in office at one of his golf resorts. cnn's brianna keilar is live in

washington with more. you've crunched the numbers, bria numbers,berry numbers, brianna what have you covered? >> what is confounding he said he never would play golf. donald trump not golfing is like donald trump not tweeting, it's just never going to happen. for president trump golf is more than just a game. it's a way of life. it seems he'd rather entertain world leaders like japanese prime minister shinzo abe on the links than in the white house, and trump casual, it's not jeans and sneakers, it's khaki pants and golf shoes, even for a visit to tour the u.s./mexico border as a candidate. in march the president held a meeting with several cabinet secretaries in his course near washington and he's spending a 17-day working vacation at his bedminister, new jersey, golf club, though he tweeted "this is not a vacation. meetings and calls," but also -- >> is my star doing a good job? >> reporter: trump golf greeted

guests of a wedding saturday at bedminister's clubhouse, all this time on the course -- >> president trump for the birdie. >> reporter: head scratching considering trump constantly hammered president obama for golfing. >> everything is executive order because he doesn't have enough time because he's playing so much golf. i'm going to be working for you. i'm not going to have time to go play golf. he played more golf last year than tiger woods. i love golf i think it's one of the greats but i don't avery time. i'm not going to be playing much golf if i win this. >> reporter: at this point in his presidency, obama had spent 1 dspent spentspent spenspent spent 11 days golfing. in 2012 trump criticized obama for playing mostly with close friends tweeting "he should play golf with republicans and owe point ens that way maybe the terrible grid lock would end." as president trump has played with senators but only members

of his own party. rand paul back in april, and senator bob corker in june joined by football great peyton manning. the president has teed it up with ceos and quite a few professional golfers, including ernie els, david frost, and rory mcilroy, who revealed in february he played 18 holes with the president after now white house press secretary sarah sanders told reporters trump had played only a couple of holes that day. the white house has tried to downplay just how much golf trump plays, and with whom, saying a trip to a golf course doesn't mean he played. >> just because you go somewhere doesn't necessarily you mean you did. on a couple of occasions he conducted meetings there, he's had phone calls, so just because he heads there doesn't mean that that's what's happening. >> reporter: but in the era of social media, even the walls of the country club have ears, and eyes. on instagram in march, check out that presidential golf glove, and in june -- >> the only place he could drive on the green, right, your own

golf course. >> reporter: busted on twitter breaking a cardinal rule of golf etiquette. but that's the norm, according to sports writer rick riley, who played with trump when he was writing his book "who's it's like parking on the steps of the church, like bringing your own ham to a great restaurant. it's just not done. it's the worst thing you can do. he also parks his cart on the tee box. i've witnessed this. people are like oh, no that was the apron of the green. when you ask him why, he says, hey, it's my course. >> reporter: trump has only visited courses he owns since becoming president. has '17. he takes as much pride in his courses as his game, so those trying to get on his good side do best to mention it. >> he's the most competitive person i have ever met.

i've seen this guy throw a dead spiral through a tire. i've seen him at madison square garden with a topcoat on, hitting foul shots. he sinks three-foot putts. >> anthony scaramucci probably meant to say 30 had the foot putts. three had the foot putt -- >> most people give you a putt within the leather, that is the length of the leather grip. he takes putts within a driver, like the long drivers. he just rakes everything. everything is good, it's all happening quickly, and that can't have been good, but he's gone and wait a minute, what about that putt you just took? that moment it's gone, and now he's over here tipping some greens keepers and over here yelling at some people building his cart path. it's madness. >> it's also, though, according to rick riley and other folks who have reported playing with

donald trump a lot of fun. they say he's the consummate host, but there's a theme that he's faulkually challenged. he reportedly says he's a 2.8 handicap, someone who is shooting regularly in the mid 70s. ernie els says he's more like an 8 or 9 and shot an 80. till a great score. >> it is, and it's not a score you actually would need to exaggerate form that's what's very interesting. it's a great, great score. >> but i think the trump rules do make sense, it's his course. >> very instructive, a lot of different levels, is how do they deal with the golfing? that's what leads to the credibility crisis. they spin even when they don't have to, and they got themselves in trouble as the poll reflects. appreciate it. well done. there's this government

climate report. it's now awaiting the trump administration's approval, but it contradicts what president trump and his team seem to believe. we speak with the "new york times" reporter who is breaking this story, next.

the impact of climate change is dangerous and it's already being felt in the united states, according to a new government report obtained by "new york times." and it says in part -- evidence abounds from the top of the atmospheres to the depths of the oceans. many lines of evidence demonstrate that human activities are primary responsibility for the observed climbed changes over the last 15 decades. lisa friedman is the reporter who got this. >> thanks for having me. >> 13 federal agencies have signed off on this report. you got it, you've read through

it, tell us what you think are the big headlines. >> i think the main takeaway from this report is that scientists are saying that half of the warming over the past four decades can be linked to human activity. that directly goes against what is we've been hearing from many members of the administration who say that, while climate change is happening and there is some human link, it can't be determined how much or what left of human activity is responsible for warming. these scientists from across federal agencies in the united states say that's not true. >> what do they make of resistance from the administration which is couched as skepticism about the human link within the science, and their concerns about whether or not this report would be made public? >> sure. so, you know, this report has

been peer reviewed by literally hundreds of scientists. it's been outs there in the scientific community. in fact, drafts have been available online, but the final version we reported on has not been. this is coming to a head soon. the administration is poised to decide by august 18th whether to move forward with this report which would be pun accomplished be published and scientists told me this report could not see the light of day. >> you are not a science reporter, you're a political reporter and politics comes into play, because obviously president trump and his director of the epa have been on the report about being skeptical of climate change and certainly skeptical that human activity is connected to it.

what do you think will happen when they digest the findings and how they will release it to the public? >> a lot of scientists have been talking to me about the ways in which this is a test case for the administration. this is the first big significant climate science report poised to come out of this administration. it's really not clear what's going to happen. you know, in some ways this is a technical report, and different administrations might handle it very differently. you know, the obama administration you could envision with a big rose garden ceremony to present a report like this. maybe until the bush administration it would be just quietly released without any fanfare. scientists in this case tell me they are worried it wouldn't come out at all. whether or not it will or not is a wait-and-see game at this

point. >> it's when you look at why the administration, the president and many others are skeptical, it almost invariably leads to the consequences. it's not that they have a scientific basis independent of the one being offered in the report, but they don't like what it did to the oil industry, or caps on american business that will disadvantage them, you know, again businesses abroad. it seems to be more about the implications of the science rather than a rational reason for disputing the science itself. is it not? >> that's certainly an argument that folks have made, absolutely. the real concern comes when you say, if you accept this science, what happens next? there are, of course, many folks in the client community who say that addressing climate change, you know,