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cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> welcome, it is 8:00 in the east, al zin is off and becoria keilar joins me. >> good to be here. >> we're out with breaking news two stunning statements. nuclear tensions are said to be at a new high. north korea's news agency is saying that. they say president trump is driving the situation on the north korean peninsula to, quote, the brink of nuclear war. >> president trump responding on twitter saying, quote, military solutions are now fully in place, locked and loaded. we have these breaking developments covered around the globe starting with cnn's will ripley, he is live in beijing with the latest. will. >> reporter: brianna, there is this new statement coming out of north korea just within the last hour or so from kcna, their state media. i want to read you two portions of it.
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the first one says president trump is driving the situation on the korean peninsula to the brink of a nuclear war making such outcries as the u.s. will not rule out a war against the dprk. and then they talk a lot about the history because in north korea, the korean war from 1950 to 1953 influences nearly every aspect of people's lives. 3 million people died on the peninsula in just three years of fighting before the armistice agreement that ended it all. but north korea tells its citizens that the u.s. is ready to attack again at any time. the second portion of the statement reading, quote, all these facts go to prove that the u.s. is indeed the master mind of the nuclear threat, the heinous nuclear war fanatic. so president trump's remarks play into the longstanding north korean narrative that the united states is their enemy and their government is justified in spending much of its money developing missiles at the expense of things like electricity, nutritious food and clean water for their people. also, here in the region tensions continue and really
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harken back to the cold war in some ways as you look at this headline from the pacific daily news, the newspaper there in guam. 14 minutes, that is the time that guam homeland security says it would take for a north korean missile to travel 2,100 miles and reach that 210-square-mile island home to more than 160,000 american citizens, homeland security in guam also putting out bulletins for people telling them advice about what to do in the event of a missile attack such as do not look at the flash or fireball. those are chilling words, but we need to remember at this point this is only a war of words. this is escalating rhetoric, but we have not seen any indications as of this morning of north korean preparations for a missile launch, at least not imminent, chris. >> what are you picking up in terms of the response to the president's tweet just this morning on hour watch saying that military options are locked and loaded? >> reporter: north koreans will take that seriously. and what we really need to watch
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is other actions in the coming days. because north korea said earlier in the week they will present a plan to pull off, if they actually go through with it, it would be their most provocative missile test ever launching four ballistic missiles simultaneously flying them over japan and down within 20 miles of guam. if they did that, fwoub highly provocative, certainly escalate tensions in the region in a month that's already a tense month because of the regularly scheduled joint military drills between the united states and south korea. not as a result of the latest tensions, they were due to kick off anyway, but they always enrage pyongyang and it's usually a time when that country likes to show force. but we have to reiterate north korea has this arsenal as a deterrent, officials there have told me repeatedly they don't want to use these weapons, chris, but they say they're not afraid to do so if the united states were to strike first. >> all right. will ripley, thank you very much. appreciate it. brianna. >> president trump is ratcheting up his rhetoric against pyongyang making another threat of military action against north korea in a tweet this morning. and cnn's barbara starr is
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joining us from the pentagon with more on this. barbara. >> reporter: good morning, brianna. let's get right to it. what the president has just tweeted, and i want to quote him, he says, military solutions are now fully in place, locked and loaded should north korea act unwisely. hopefully kim jong-un will find another path. i want to leave those words up for everyone to look at for a minute. locked and loaded, those are key words for the u.s. military. what does that mean? well, what we do know is there have been military options in place for weeks now. this is not new. and they are very much focused on the u.s. being able to conduct a rapid response against a north korean provocation or attack. so, again, locked and loaded, the military always ready to go. and they have been for some time regarding north korea. what would they use? there are aircraft, aircraft in guam, aircraft in south korea, in japan, ships with missiles at
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sea, submarines, they don't talk about those very much, but there are always submarines submerged of course off korea ready to launch missiles in a very covert way. all of this has been ready for some time. so what the president may be referring to here is simply bringing a little more out in public, a little more of a message to kim jong-un that if ordered, the u.s. military always ready to go, brianna, chris. >> all right. let's bring in cnn politics reporter and editor at large chris cillizza and richard grinl. richard, let's start with this. all the generals say the same thing, the might of the united states unquestioned, the superiority versus north korea unquestioned. what do you do if north korea takes the wrong path, to paraphrase president trump,
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unknown. they'll say there are no good options. so here's the question, how do you balance the device of tough talk and what it may motivate by china, north korea and others, versus the need to act on that talk? >> well, first of all, let's remember that president obama said we could destroy north korea. it was a very provocative statement. and his policy was strategic patience. so i don't really think that the rhetoric has anything to do with the fact that 12 missile tests this year alone have been conducted by north korea. they've miniaturized a nuclear warhead. they have been able to successfully put a missile into orbit, which the significance of that means that it can travel very far once you get it into orbit. so they are clearly working on these pieces. that all happened over the last eight years of strategic patience and a very clear message from president obama that he could destroy north korea. so i think we have to take a step back here and understand
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that diplomacy is really -- there's still room for diplomatic muscle here. we just saw north korea resolution at the u.n. it was tough. it's the toughest we've seen. but there are still more things to be done diplomatically. so i'd like to dial this back in terms of the military talk to recognize that we are still now trying to implement the resolution at the u.n. there's still room for oil sanctions, which were thrown out by the chinese in this last negotiation. and i still think that if we really wanted to do something that would grab the attention of the chinese, who really hold all the cards here, that we should do unilateral banking sanctions on china. that doesn't come without pain. there's pain for americans, there's pain for wall street, we're going to see higher prices. however, we need to remember that diplomatic action can still rule the day. we still have room here.
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>> so a very measured suggestion there, richard. and i think, margaret, a lot of people in the trump administration should share this, maybe you can't tell it from president trump's rhetoric, but when you have him going from fire and fury to then locked and loaded, is he taking some of that diplomatic possibilities off the table? does he either get himself into a situation where he's going to look weak, or into a situation where he feels like he has to take action that could end in something that is ultimately catastrophic? >> you know, brianna, this is going to sound counterintuitive because when i saw the latest tweet i thought, whoa, but there's another way to read it too which is he's still saying the u.s. is ready to act if north korea does something unwise. so the president is not talking about initiating action at this point. the president is talking about the possibility of responding to action, and that is really important. and when you talk across the administration to a spectrum of
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foreign policy and military experts, everybody says there's a series of both sort of military and diplomatic, call it military-diplomatic, hyphenated, steps that would be taken that still have yet to be taken that could ratchet up the diplomatic pressure through those military channels. whether it's forced appointments or positioning of planes, a series of steps if the u.s. wanted to send increasing military signals as well as some of those diplomatic options we're talking about like more secondary sanctions, more pressure on china. so the rhetoric is definitely attention getting and is making some people very nervous. but the subtext of the rhetoric and the space that's left in between is probably still quite significant. >> do you think that's the way it's read? i mean, chris cillizza, we were talking earlier, does that mesh with diplomacy using language that sound like the title cards for ufc fights? fire and fury, locked and
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loaded. >> right. i think what richard said and laid out in terms of a policy i think is right. i think what's hard is that rhetoric from the president is hard to ignore or just write off to, well, you know, north korea always says stuff like this, we're just saying it back at this point because of fire and fury the likes of which the world has never seen, and locked and loaded. now, as barbara starr points out, this is not today locked and loaded, right? there's not any sort of thing that happened just now. but that rhetoric has real power, particularly when it comes to the president of the united states. what's difficult here is donald trump did get elected. i was on tv last night with fareed zakaria who made a great point, donald trump did get elected because he's willing to say and do things like this. he's willing to engage when asked questions in ways that most politicians would say,
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we're monitoring the situation closely, their provocations are obviously unwelcome -- right? political speak. that's not donald trump. that's how -- that's what the people who voted for him want, at the same time how is it perceived and read in north korea or anywhere else. because i guarantee you though margaret is right on the nuance point there that we're not going to make a preemptive strike, but if they do something, we're locked and loaded, locked and loaded is what you're going -- is going to be the big takeaway, right? and what does that mean? that's always the difficulty with trump. does the rhetoric overtop the policy or what he meant, what his administration meant. >> is it harmless rhetoric, richard, or do you have concerns? >> i don't have any concerns at all. look, political types are going to say keep trying to message locked and loaded, but they're missing the rest of the sentence. and i think it's really
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disingenuous and shameful to not continue the rest of the sentence. as margaret pointed out, he's talking about a missile defense program at this point. he's talking about playing defense. he's saying if they should act. i want to ask chris cillizza, what does he expect the president of the united states to do if north korea should act? should he not use language that warns them? i mean, look, we have to remember that barack obama used language like we could destroy north korea. that seems to be lost here. that seems to be lost on the left that we had fiery language from president obama when his whole policy was strategic patience. that failed. we have to understand that over the last two administrations, three administrations really, this policy has failed. we are now at a situation that is a very serious threat. we have seen them gather the three pieces that are needed to launch a nuke.
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we cannot just sit back and have the typical kind of rhetoric and preparations and policies that we've had in the past. washington may be very comfortable with those. they like the status quo, they may freak out when it comes to somebody doing something new. but what washington has to understand is the last 20 years this policy has failed. >> richard may not have heard what i said because i agree with him on the fact that donald trump -- >> what i didn't hear is you finish the locked and loaded part. you keep saying locked and loaded, but you're forgetting the major part which is if north korea should act unwisely. >> right. >> that's a key point. >> i don't disagree at all. i just think that you're -- >> well, then say it. >> do you want me to read the tweet? i don't have it in front of me. >> no, i want you to stop saying locked and loaded without finishing the rest of it because you're being very political with a serious policy.
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>> i guess i disagree obviously. but i do think you have to look at the fact that not every person is going to read every word of that particularly given what donald trump has said fire and fury and that sort of thing. don't disagree with you about rhetoric and donald trump wanting to -- being elected to talk differently, as i said. but i do think that you -- to assume that everyone around the world is going to read that entire thing, we just showed it again, to assume everyone around the world is going to read the entire thing doesn't have to do with me. i think misunderstands the way in which rhetoric and words matter. >> look, what i hear you saying is people are only reading half a tweet. and i find that to be crazy. i find that to be what politics and political people in washington, d.c. try to do when they're partisan. this is a serious policy. >> wait, richard, isn't that the
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part of the tweet that donald trump wants people to read? >> right. >> i mean, he's not putting that there to say look at the back half of the tweet. that is the part he wants read. >> i've been watching your show all morning. i haven't heard you talk about president obama saying we could destroy north korea. >> that's because that's not the imminent situation, okay? and i don't know where -- you want to talk about logic -- hold on a second, richard. you talked plenty. the idea of bringing up what a past president said when you're dealing with an imminent and breaking situation is silly. you don't do that. you deal with what's on the table before you right now. and we both know you may choose to ignore it willfully, but we both know that president trump uses inflammatory language on purpose. he sees it as a show of strength. so to say that every part of the tweet must be weighed equally is naive at best and misleading at
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worst. but there are other points to be made here. margaret, what did you want to come in with? >> i was just going to say that, you know, i think first of all president obama is not the president anymore. president trump is. and the situation has changed somewhat dramatically in just the intervening six months in terms of what we now know or believe about north korea's capability and how far along they are. and so for a long time the conventional wisdom has been even as the u.s. tries to prepare for a set of not very good options, it's important just not to inflame the situation. and president trump has taken a different tack. he's still sort of poking the stick a little bit, that's what's making a lot of people very uncomfortable. what the world is trying to figure out who is his message to. is he signaling to china to try to get china to do more. is he signaling to north korea to say you're such a tough guy, you're not a tough guy, calling his bluff? is he signaling to the base at home saying i promised i was going to be tough and do things
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differently? maybe he's doing all three, but helps you to understand what the risk and reward calculus is. and because north korea's so unpredictable, it's that in addition to the president's unpredictability that's making the world very uncomfortable. but i think underlying all of this you have got now a serious and very engaged set of discussions involving not just the president up at bedminster, you have the secretary of state, u.n. security advisor, ambassador nikki haley coming to meet with the president today, probably a lot of people wish it were earlier today, but she is talking to u.s. allies and not always allies but partners in this all over the world. there is a real concerted effort underneath the rhetoric to try to get a handle on the situation and to try to exercise all of those diplomatic and military kind of considerations that we're talking about. >> also, richard, what's your take on this, the president is using different language than
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everybody else, that's probably not an accident either, right? mattis is using different language, tillerson is using different language. what do you think that is? do you think this is orchestrated carrot and stick, or do you think this is action and reaction, that the president says something and then those around him do what you were suggesting which is shape it more towards diplomacy regardless of the hyperbole coming from the president? >> well, i think they have different jobs and they have different responsibilities and they're focused on different things. certainly secretary tillerson is focused on diplomacy. and he should be pushing diplomacy all the way up until the very end. there's a dual track with military issues and with preparation and that's secretary mattis. and so what president trump is trying to do is watch both. and he's got to decide when one stops. look, my whole point here is that we're focused, and i think washington is hyperfocused on rhetoric. and that's not the solution
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here. we are where we are with a very serious situation because we've had a failed policy. so what washington needs to focus on is policy. we need to focus less on the rhetoric. the rhetoric did not get us here. my whole point in bringing up president obama's rhetoric is to show that even tough rhetoric from a different person is absolutely not working. the policy is not working. >> uh-huh. understood. richard, thank you very much. chris cillizza, margaret talev, appreciate it. so a little bit of this no matter how you feel about it does come down to the central issue of approach and the president's approach is different than what we've seen in the past. even if president obama said he could destroy it, it wasn't a constant narrative of threat in response to threat. so is this the best way to go? we have a republican senator from the foreign relations committee with his take next.
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president trump continuing with the strategy of tough talk when it comes to north korea, responding to the latest statement from pyongyang on twitter in the last hour with this, military solutions are now fully in place, locked and loaded should north korea act unwisely. hopefully kim jong-un will find another path. that's the tweet from the president. is that the right approach? let's bring in republican senator rob portman of ohio, a member of the committee on foreign relations. always good to see you, senator.
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several boxes to check with you this morning. let's start with north korea. do you believe this is the right approach to have with north korea, the rhetoric from the president? >> i think the right approach is to be strong and that will have a deterrent effect, i believe, that's certainly what all of us hope for. ronald reagan said famously you get peace through strength. i think that's what secretary tillerson and secretary mattis and president trump are all saying is that should there be a preemptive strike upon north korea, the response will be swift, it will be forceful and that should deter them, one would hope, from taking any actions against guam or south korea or japan or certainly our shores. >> so if good fgod forbid something would not happen, the president would not have to go to congress for any power to act because it would be in defense of the united states, but if it did become an issue, would you back the use of military force
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against north korea if they sent a missile into waters near the u.s. territory of guam? >> chris, we have to see, we have to see of course what the north koreans do and we'd also want to work with our allies. i've heard earlier some conversations about unilateral acts. we just got the united nations to agree on a unanimous basis. >> right. but you get why i'm asking, right? if they were to do what's being threatened, senator, this talk has to lead somewhere because otherwise you wind up getting hoisted on your own petard so to speak, you talk tough but not act. i'm not encouraging military solution to the situation, don't misunderstand me. i'm trying to follow through on the strategic thinking here. if you say you're going to hit me if i do something and i do that thing, you then have to hit me to follow through on your talk. is that something you'd be comfortable with? >> well, i think we do need to honor our red lines. and as you know ntd last administration we failed to do
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that on occasion and that had a tremendous effect not just on our enemies but our allies. i think we do ave to followthrough on our threats. i would say what has not worked over i would go beyond the last administration and say the last few administrations is not using hot rhetoric and not taking action. right now we have a situation where north korea continues to export about $3 billion worth of goods, as an example, china continues to do business with them, about 80% of trade is with china, provide dual technologies to north korea meaning used in the nuclear sector but also the nuclear weapons program. there's a lot more to be done. again, the step north korea took recently by threatening a u.s. territory escalates it, no question about it. but the u.n. sanctions also help escalate from our point of view. it was a unanimous decision, help tighten sanctions.
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i think we should go further. we have legislation to do that as you know, it's bipartisan. it's entitled stop the new york enables and china is an enabler. we could do more. about $1 billion of $3 billion, let's broaden those sanctions. be sure to use the u.s. financial system which is our biggest leverage to stop companies from places like china from doing business with north korea because they also want to do business with our financial institutions. chris, i think there's a lot more that can be done. >> absolutely. >> and we should move quickly. >> absolutely. that's why there's talk about should you just be down the military track, hopefully they're following a lot of different paths. we'll see what develops. there's something else we want to talk to you about. we have a documentary coming up about the explosion of sex trafficking here in the united states and not the way people think about it where young girls are taken from abroad and shipped into the united states. there are estimates that as many as 70% of the victims in the u.s. are u.s. kids that are brought into what we familiarly see as prostitution, but it's way more than that now across
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state lines, you know, kids being taken all over. you see this problem, you want to attack it. how? >> chris, first, i appreciate you guys putting a spotlight on this. we've talked about it before, but tragically we've had a big increase in sex trafficking, human trafficking. and all the experts look at it come up with the same conclusion which is that the internet is the reason. in other words, the dark side of the internet here is that groups like backpage.com, which is a website we have investigated, are selling women and children online. and really doing it without any ability for prosecutors or the victims to be able to stop it. they have an immunity under federal law. that immunity is something that we are now looking at in terms of legislation we've introduced very targeted specific legislation to take away the immunity for entities that facilitate sex trafficking and do it knowingly. in other words, intentionally. and to me this is the only way we're going to be able to slow this down and begin to turn the
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tide. so it's bipartisan. we have about 25, 28 co-sponsors now. it's something that i think we have to put into place to be able to allow the prosecutors at the state level and the federal level to go after these groups that are selling girls and women online. the exploitation continues. and also to let the victims get the justice they deserve. >> no question it's a 50-state problem. kids as young as 10. and, again, u.s. kids, american kids, being sold into basically the new slave trade. senator, we're all over it. we have the documentary coming out this fall. let us know what happens legislatively. we will stay on this story. thanks for joining us on "new day". >> that's great. thanks, chris. always great to be on with you. >> be well, senator. brianna. >> president trump not backing down, but does his brand of tough talk go too far? we'll ask democratic congressman eric swalwell of california next.
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congressman eric swalwell tweeting, constituents texts pouring in asking should we worry about north korea, i've never seen anything like chaos donald trump has created. congressman swalwell joining us now. he does sit we should mention on the house intel as well as the house judiciary committee. sir, thanks for being with us. as you respond to constituents, what are you telling them about north korea and how concerned they should be? >> good morning, brianna. and it is troubling to see so many constituents asking me at town halls this weekend and asking me over direct messages on twitter or text message, you know, what's going to happen, are we prepared for this. i tell them, you know, fortunately around the president are experienced foreign policy hands, generals who know that the options militarily are not good ones and we just have to hope that they are asserting themselves for the sake of our future and the sake of our country. >> so when we look at what north korea has said this morning, the official word saying trump is
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driving the situation on the korean peninsula to the brink of a nuclear war, donald trump has said this morning on twitter, military solutions are now fully in place, locked and loaded. he does say should north korea act unwisely. so he is saying essentially this would be a reaction to something north korea does. does that give you any comfort in what you expect about how this will play out? >> no, no, i have no comfort in the way that the president is conducting foreign and military policy, brianna. mind you he's doing this from a golf club in new jersey. he would be well served to go back to the white house to assemble his team to talk to our allies. we're going to need a lot of allies if we're going to engage in a military conduct with north korea. and also continue to engage with china. you know, this policy is also very inconsistent from what i thought was a foreign policy success over the weekend where in a 5-0 vote tougher sanctions
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were put on north korea. that's what diplomacy first looks like. and now to a radically deviate from that, i think, puts us at a grave risk of a conflict with north korea. >> what should he be doing? >> talking to the experts. he does have generals and foreign policy experts. he needs to fill the south korea ambassadorship. right now that position is vacant. talk to our friends. i think, you know, missing right now is that scene of american leadership where he'd be sitting with our allies and telling north korea that we're not going to tolerate their continued escalation as far as developing nuclear capabilities. but he's not doing any of that. he's isolated at a golf club in north korea and just sending out bar stool threats. >> let me ask you about that. he's clearly railed against president obama for playing a lot of golf, but work can be done when you are on vacation. we know that. we saw president obama do that from martha's vineyard and from hawaii, big national security issues he had to deal with while
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there. so that aside, speaking not as a democrat but as an american, about how you want him to change what he's saying. and if you really think that will do anything, some people have made the point that he is sounding the bell at least on this. people are listening. and they believe that kim jong-un won't actually do something stupid. what do you say to that? >> i say that we've collected a lot of chips over the years through the leadership of american presidents. we have friends in the world. and so start talking to those friends. seek their advice, understand what would they be willing to do with us against north korea. but right now i think most americans sit at home, republican and democrat, and fear that this is going to be a u.s. go it alone strategy. and that we have seen in the past recklessly has led to chaos. >> you don't see what he's saying perhaps drawing china into doing something? what do you think about that? >> if he's doing it through back
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channels, you know, that's one thing. i don't think anyone though right now from what has been reported and the way that he is just tweeting and needling china sees that he's trying to constructively engage china on this issue. and china as we know is their primary source of food and fuel into north korea. they have a lot of leverage over north korea if they want to use it. >> it is certainly a scary time as your constituents have been discussing with you, congressman. congressman eric swalwell, we appreciate you being with us. >> my pleasure. >> all right. different category of news, the nfl's commissioner making a surprise trip to enemy territory. what happened? the bleacher report next. knowing where you stand. it's never been easier.
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deflategate saga, nfl commissioner roger goodell was in attendance at a patriots home game. andy scholes has more in this morning's bleacher report. and if he was thinking bygones be bigons. >> they haven't got to see him in person since he suspended tom brady for deflategate, but unfortunately no one really knew goodell was at the game. this was a surprise visit. the broadcast never even showed goodell. all we have really is this grainy picture of the commissioner in patriots owner robert kraft's box. but check this out there were at least three patriots fans aren't still mad at goodell. they took this smiling picture with the commissioner. fans in england will get a chance to see him again soon as he's scheduled to be at the season opener in foxborough. the fans in new england will get a chance to formally great the commissioner in a few weeks. >> greet with air quotes you
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military solutions now fully in place, locked and loaded should north korea act unwisely. hopefully kim jong-un will find another path. let's bring in cnn senior political commentator and former senior obama advisor david axelrod for the bottom line. you came up in a conversation tangentially this morning, a supporter of the president said, you know, president obama said we could destroy north korea, so don't blame the president trump for ratcheting up the fiery talk, obama spoke the same way. fair comparison? >> well, the president said the other day that obama didn't speak about it at all, so everybody better get on the same page over there. chris, my concern is the president dealing with reality or does he view this all as a reality show? is he a president with a strategy? or is he playing a tough talking president on tv because he likes
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the look? it feels a lot like he is backing kim jong-un into a corner giving him a choice between submission or war. and given the psychology of the north koreans, it seems like it's ratcheting up the possibility of war. i watched rob portman on your air a few minutes ago, a thoughtful republican. it was interesting because on the one hand he was supporting the president. >> uh-huh. >> and suggesting that this pressure could be helpful. but then he spent many, many minutes talking about all the tools, diplomatic tools, in the toolbox that should be exercised in the service of trying to solve this problem. and the question is the president thinking about all these things? what is the end game here? or is it just to him another tv show? it's very hard to know. >> you heard what congressman swalwell said, which to his constituents he's a democrat and he's telling them to comfort them in a way that there are
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good people around the president. so he's even saying that it seems -- he wouldn't say he was getting comfort, but it does seem that he does get a little from that fact. so as we've heard this morning if you just look at these words, they're so alarming and yet a lot of experts are pointing out kim jong-un isn't suicidal. >> right. >> so should we take something away from that? >> yeah. look, first, i agree with congressman swalwell. the president has a lot of serious people around him, jim mattis is a serious person. i think tillerson has been very responsible and general mcmaster, there are serious people around him, the question is whether this is a strategy that is being developed in concert between them or whether they are hustling at every moment to catch up with his latest tweet. which is a very, very dangerous way to proceed. it feels like they're trying to catch up with his tweets.
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so one hopes that at the end of the day that the group is making decisions and that the president isn't going to improvise or continue to improvise. but, you know, that's an open question. >> and there had been speculation that general kelly was going to monitor the twitter. i can't believe that that's going on given the productivity the president has had on twitter since then. let me get your take on something else, ax, while we have you. the president goes after mitch mcconnell, makes it public, makes it obvious. brianna pointed out earlier that he's retweeting articles on his feed that are negative about mcconnell. and i think we've heard a surprising number of republicans say, well, maybe mcconnell should go. if he doesn't get it done, the president's right, he's got high ground here, repeal and replace was the signature move. they got the numbers on the basis of it in large part and they didn't deliver. does the president win on this one? >> well, i think it plays very well with his base. the republican leadership in washington is detested by the
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base that is core trump support. and so, you know, there i think he's scoring some points. in a practical way though you look at mitch mcconnell, brianna's covered the hill, she knows, there's not a wilier character on capitol hill, and he actually has quite a bit of support among his own caucus. and there are a thousand ways in which he can be either helpful or hurtful to the president, many of which we'll never see that go to arcane procedural matters. so if you want to get your program across then it seems to me going to war with mcconnell is sort of mystifying in a way in the same way going straight ahead at kim jong-un leaves you with some questions. you know, this is donald trump, man. he doesn't have brakes on the truck. it's just going straightforward and there's no reverse on the gear shift either. we'll see if there's a cliff ahead. >> david axelrod, thank you so
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much. i suspect you and other democrats would be glad to see mitch mcconnell go because he is very effective. and we've seen that in so many ways. so, all right, david, thank you so much, sir. >> i would like to see the country get some stuff done too. >> of course. speaking politics of course. david axelrod, thank you. and "cnn newsroom" with poppy harlow starts after this break. ...positively radiant® 60 second in shower facial. works with steam to reveal... ...glowing skin in just one minute. aveeno® "naturally beautiful results®" i'm the one clocking in... when you're clocking out. sensing your every move and automatically adjusting to help you stay effortlessly comfortable. there. i can even warm these to help you fall asleep faster. does your bed do that? oh. i don't actually talk. though i'm smart enough to. i'm the new sleep number 360 smart bed. let's meet at a sleep number store.
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good morning. top of the hour. i'm poppy harlow. this morning, new pointed words from president trump and the north korean regime just hours after saying his fire and fury warning to north korea might not have been tough enough, president trump is declaring the u.s. military now fully prepared for action. in a statement this morning the president writing military solutions are now fully in place, locked and loaded should north korea act unwisely. hopefully kim jong-un will find another path. now, this tweet from the president just moments after pyongyang declared it was president trump who is driving the peninsula, quote, to the brink of nuclear war and vowed strategic nuclear weapons will hit the united states' mainland at the first sign of any preemptive move by the united states. now, yesterday the world heard from president trump directly in two really remarkable news conferences. he said this about north
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