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central to it, going on here in washington, around the country and around the world. angry, defiant and more, the president leaves no doubt about how he really feels about this weekend's deadly chaos in charlottesville. >> excuse me, what about the alt-left that came charging at as you say the alt-right, do they have any semblance of guilt? >> neo-nazis and white supremacists are celebrating the president's remark. the republican party is in full panic. >> this is ridiculous, the president of the united states needs to condemn these kind of hate groups, apparently now these folks are going to go other places and they think they had some sort of a victory, there is no moral equivalency between the kkk, the ne-o-nazis

and anybody else. >> a president what a long history of ignoring the facts and shooting from the hip, he made this response that made no mention of the hate groups. >> you don't make statements that direct unless you know the facts. it takes a little while to get the facts, you still don't know the facts. and it's a very, very important process to me. >> with us to share their reporting and their insights, our panel. the president is in a very lonely place today. and he can only look in the mirror if he bothers to wonder why. the republican speaker of the house, the senate majority leader, the party's 2008 and 2012 presidential nominees, scores of people rushing to disagree with the president. this last hour from senator lindsay graham of south carolina. mr. president, i encourage you

to try to bring us together as a nation after this horrific event in charlottesville, your comments are dividing them not healing them. the criticism is global. >> i see no difference between those who practice fascist views and those who -- >> now white house talking points today insists the president was dead on yesterday when he equated counter protesters in charlottes with neo-nazis, kkk members. >> i'm not putting anybody on a moral plane. but there is another side. there was a group on this side, you can call them the left, you've just called them the left. who came violently attacking the other group. so you can say what you want, but that's the way it is.

>> jeff, as we get to you today, team trump saying he was exactly right. we just came out of a very emotional memorial service. emotions are raw in charlottesville, emotions are raw all across the country. it but some people think because of the president's comments that they're right. >> reporter: talking to a variety of people i'm struck by a couple of things, one silence, you do not hear a public comment from ivanka trump, jared kushner. privately, all wincing, all wishing the president wouldn't have done this. the official line is, look, we're going to focus on our agenda, focus on the work to do, but the complicating factor of that, john is this has indeed made that agenda more difficult. today was scheduled to be a turn

the page day, a lot of senators were here yesterday to talk about the legislative agenda. president trump went into the trump tower talking about infrastructure, how he wanted democrats to work with him on inf inf infrastructure, of course that is all lost in what he decided to do. the staff didn't know he was going to do this. they didn't believe he would. look at the chief of staff john kelly, the look on his face was apparent. the president has been silent today, he'll be going to bedminster in new jersey in a little while. and the white house has added something later in the week, he'll be going to camp david this week to talk about his afghanistan policy. again, the president and the president alone decided to go off the rails today, and now it's cleanup duty once again in this white house. >> it just begs the question, we'll go back to yesterday,

we'll spend mosts of hour going back to yesterday and what it tells us about the president of the united states and what he really thinks happened in charlottesville. i guess that's the answer to my question, because we just left a very emotional memorial service for heather heyer, the one who was killed in the incident. why isn't the president sitting in the front pew at that memorial service? >> president obama after cha charleston, he showed up at the funerals and he actually sang from the podium. the president certainly couldn't sing that way, and i don't think he has the capability or may.

i think he tweeted just recently about the memorial service and talking about heather's life and what she meant, obviously to her family. but that is not the kind of president we have now. one that can do that. >> that was evident yesterday when reporters asked him if he was going to go to chartsville, and he started talking about having a winery there, i have a home in charlottesville, so is that the first place your mind goes? >> lindsay graham saying mr. president think again, and two former presidents of the united states named bush, issuing this joint statement today. saying america must always reject racial bigotry, anti-semitism. we are all created equal and endowed by our creator.

now they don't specifically name donald trump. but this is again another shot across the bow of this white house saying, mr. president, it is your job, it is your job to stand up for the, quote, decency and greatness of our country at a moment like this. >> and republicans were quick after saturday to sort of offer these same suggestions. and then you had on monday, the president actually saying words that, you know, many people had wanted him to say right out of the gate on saturday. and at the time, you heard all sorts of people saying, you know, it's too late after saturday, we know how he really feels. now it's really too late. and it's hard to see where the president goes the here, other than perhaps hoping that the page just sort of turns on its own. >> because we know how he feels now, he delivered a statement on saturday, he will get through this in the hour ahead, he said well i didn't have all the facts, and then he delivered the statements at the white house on monday. everybody knows he was pressured to do that by his staff, no, mr.

president, you have to be specific about denouncing the kkk, white supremacists and white nationalists. the president says both sides are to blame. now there were violent counter protesters without a doubt. any president the above for should certainly call out those people, but you can't equate them. this is the problem for the president. he equates them, he essentially calls them equal to people who were marching around town saying jews are evil, blacks are evil, there's a difference mr. president, but he doesn't seem to get it. >> it i will tell you something, i washed this very closely, much more closely than you people watched it. and you had a group on one side that was bad and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent. and nobody wants to say that. but i'll say it right now you had a group on the other side that came charging in without a permit, and they were very, very violent. yes, i think there's blame on

both sides. you look at both sides, i think there's blame on both sides. and i have no doubt about it and you don't have any doubt about it either. and if you reported it accurately, you would say it. >> let's report something accurately. after that statement from the president yesterday, republicans are shocked and in horror and wondering about the impact on their party and the person celebrating among them is david duke, reporting accurately, mr. president, thank you president trump for your honesty and courage to tell the truth about charlottesville and condemn the leftest terrorists. >> that's not the one person you want in your corner, really. >> great character witness. >> it's not just republicans, it's basically almost former living president, it's almost every joint chief. the military normally does not come out and make statements like this, but everybody in a position of authority is saying no, we absolutely reject that.

and as to what the president was saying that there's culpability on both sides. marco rubio said it very well, if you build a movement based on hatred or bigotry, you're using any means necessary including violence. this is now a major problem for how everybody -- clearly nobody is swallowing this episode, but does this spit out and how are they going to swallow the president down the line. >> we sort of overstate the condemnation from republicans. because if you look at the numbers, there are over 300 elected republicans on the hill and governors, some have come out and haven't even been brave enough to say the president's name, it's just this kind of generic way, so there isn't any kind of bravery for sticking up

for this woman who passed away and going against white supremacists and this sort of private wincing, all of these people privately wincing, they have been privately wincing for the last several months. >> they winced and then they endorsed him and then they winced and endorsed him again. so anybody who was shocked to hear the words coming out of his mouth yesterday, have not been listening to the words coming out for the last two years. but i think one of the things which is not to justify the president's mindset, but to explain it, is that when he looks at these groups, when he looks at these two sides clashing, and he sees the left, he doesn't see the left in terms of just those people who were at that march in charlottesville,

when he looks at people, he thinks about people who are waiting outside his rallies, he is thinking about those who attack and kill cops, he lumps these people together when he talks about what he calls the alt-left. he doesn't understand the difference between decrying someone who shoots a police officer, versus someone who grows outraged because they're in the face of neo-nazis. in the past, we had people who stood up against neo-nazis and they were heroes, those were the soldiers of world war ii. >> you can't do that when everybody's equal. but essentially he says he didn't have all the facts. that's his fault, the facts were available to him. >> at what point are we going to say, oh, well it's too bad we didn't understand the difference. >> he should understand the

difference. >> you're well into your seventh month, it's not a good enough explanation. at the same time, what you were saying a minute ago, there's not that many republicans who have been brave enough to come out. it's really weird that we're applauding a brave thing, neo-nazis are a good thing. that's an interesting point. >> the last to speak was the majority leader mitch mcconnell who said in the last hour that there's a planned march in lexington, kentucky. he said there are no good nazis and those who espouse their views do not represent american freedoms. there were people in charlottesville, there to support keeping the robert lee statue there, who are not neo-na neo-nazis, who are not white nationalists. the president is right about that. but you can say that after you strongly condemn the neo-nazis,

the kkk and the white supremaci supremacists, but is that what you mean in the sense that mitch mcconnell's statement does not mention the president of the united states, does not say mr. president you got this wrong, make it right. >> the strongest statement lindsay graham and he's been the stronge esest voice in many way his statement was pretty bland as well. people are praising marco rubio for calli ining out president t. but he also had criticizing words for president obama. >> if you're a democrat, you're watching, it may not be as specific as it should be, but they're watching republicans run from the president and the republicans take issue with the president. democrats don't want to make

it -- >> at some point you have to stop cheering him on. it's taking it's own -- >> hold the thought, because this is more than a crackling political consequences, giant consequences for the president, his ability to get things done, what people think about him around their dinner tables around the world. some republicans asking if leading the party is preferable to fighting the president for what it should stand for.

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bush was equally harsh. this is a time for moral clarity, not ambivalence, urging the president to think again. he must leave no room for doubt that racism and hatred will be tolerated or ignored by his white house. tough global criticism too. >> i think it's important for all those in positions of responsibility to condemn far right views wherever we hear them. >> and here at home, check out this exchange on twitter, donald trump ally, kaley mcnamee, president donald trump once aga again -- i have stayed in the party because i figured staying and fighting for it was better than leaving, but the lord is testing me. i found that interesting, i have known kristen a long time, often

when these things change, it's the younger people who force the grown-ups to change their ways. you made the point, i think governor romney was very clear in criticizing the president. but you're right, a lot of people are saying to say, preside you're wrong in not naming names. essentially saying she works for a congressional candidate, she works for a campaign, saying maybe i don't belong here anymore? >> it's difficult to paint with that broad a brush, because a lot of the alt-right movement came from the younger generation and affiliated themselves where the republican party. it's not just old white men and their antiquated views or what have you, and also because a lot of people lived through the 1960s and 1970s and don't want

to go through that again so they're hearing these things and saying this is wrong. but when you have young people sayi saying this isn't the world we're living in anymore. it's a real marker to have someone say i'm considering leaving the party. >> i thought that hugh huet made a great point when he said that people who think they can pipe up whenever they want. it's important for main stream leaders such as the president to very forcefully and clearly denounce hate groups when they rise up like they did last weekend. it. >> to this point, the president came into that room prepared to do combat with the media. and some other networks seems

look they're in fantasy land when they covered this. i would like to say amen to charles kraut hammer and others who calls it like he sees it. >> to critique what he did today on the grounds that it detracts from the agenda or that it was a tactical mistake i believe is a cop out. this is a moral disgrace, what trump needs to denounce is white supremacy, kkk and naziism, yes, there are bad guys on both sides, but this was instituted, the riot began over a nazi riot, a nazi riot. >> there's no gray here, often there is gray, often there are points of debate.

often there are differences in policy or perspective, there's no gray here. >> i think the republican party has some real soul searching to do on issues of race and racism to put it very pointedly, mitt romney coming out and saying the sort of anti trump sentiments but he may have also been responsible for main streaming donald trump for 2012. he was in full birther mode at the time. we have seen these points in gop history. bob dole for instance, showing the racists the door, 2005 ken melman who was the rnc chief at that time, goes to the naacp and apologizes for some of the racial politics they played to gain an advantage in the ballot box and then you have colin powell saying you have a dark

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welcome back. remember the president's event yesterday was supposed to be about infrastructure, but he made the decision to take questions and it's clear he wanted to revisit charlottesville and do combat with reporters, bringing along a copy of his saturday comments to he could defend it. first let's go back to donald trump tower, jonathan lamere was one of those reporters on hand yesterday. take us inside that room, the president's both language, his anger, his sort of back and forth with the reporters, but also some of the stunned, if not nervous faces of the senior staff? >> reporter: yeah, that's exactly right. as you just said, the plan was not for the president to take questions yesterday. he had signed off on the plan by his staff, come down the elev e elevato

elevators, peek for about five minutes and then he was supposed to return up to the penthouse and leave his advisors to talk about his infrastructure plan. as soon as he started talking and relitigating his statement on saturday about charlottesville, the reaction of his staff is instan tanous. it wasn't just him. the new press secretary, sarah sanders was looking around the room, trying to make eye contact with other aides and another staffer, her mouth just dropped when the president talked there. the president's both language, he was agitated. at one point his face was flushed red, as he went back and forth verbal jousting with the reporters in the pool. and it was very clear he believed in his initial statements, we have from reporting that he thought he addressed the situation then, he fumed about it over the weekend,

he had to be talked into making a second statement from the white house by his aides, and as you saw, he pulled his remarks out of his possibility, he wanted to go back to the original message. >> where a seventh ceo is leaving the manufacturing council, he criticized them, do they understand that these people are walking away because they don't want their brand anywhere associated with this president's brand? >> reporter: i think it's also been striking how silent his usual defenders have been today. very few people on the hill have stepped up and defended what the president said, despite talking points the white house distributed last night. pretty much radio silence from the white house itself. no one is out there saying that this statement from the president, from the white house

is good for the president. they know it's striking, they know it will not go away, i suspect they will try to change the subject the best they can the next few days, whether it's foreign policy or something else. what happened yesterday feels bigger than the sort of run of the mill trump crisis we have gotten used to. >> that's more than a fair statement, appreciate your time today and your insights on what was going on in that room. now what? does team trump have the right instincts? as the nation processed the charlottesville horror, trump announced plans for a rally next week in arizona. this just yesterday, when a reporter at that event mentioned senator john mccain. >> reporter: john mccain has called on you to defend your security advisor h.r. mcmaster.

>> i did it last time. senator mccain? >> reporter: yes. >> senator mccain who voted against obama care? you mean senator mccain who voted against us getting good health care? >> reporter: senator mccain condemned the attacks in charlottesville. >> i'm sure senator mccain must know what he's talking about. >> it's not so much about senator mccain or just going to arizona, but this -- he's-he loves sparring and he's good at it, and is that all he wants to do? >> his loves his rallies, they make him feel good, and again, he's going to be surrounded by supporters who are going to be re-enforcing him, i can see this crowd being explosively positive

toward him if he calls out senator mccain or senator flake from that stage. so this is a way. >> as we sit here today, we do not believe he has reached out to the family of the victim. they lanch campaign ads and they go have political rallies with a crowd of people they know are going to tell him how great he is, he has 35% in the polls, is there anyone around him that can do the math? >> i'm not sure necessarily at this point that there's a move he can make to correct the math in this moment. he needs a bigger thing that's not really on this topic. >> but he has to want it and he has to mean it. we keep talking about some technical political decision, here's the file, it has to come from him. >> i think that's right, and when we talk about the staff and the staff kind of gives blind

quotes to cnn they're kind of blind hostages. can you imagine at some point they could have cut that press conference off? >> i'm not sure about that. you're exactly right. somebody should have cut the power to the building or something. >> or just ask a question, that's something that press people sometimes do in those situations and there's john kelly, and he was supposed to be the great savior and bring order and discipline and focus. this idea that they didn't know that this was a possibility, apparently the president has been fuming about this for days, the idea that they didn't suspect that he would go out there -- he was ready for it. >> to borrow a phrase, he was locked and loaded when he walked into that lobby. to add to that, we have hope hicks who has made it clear she views her job to defend the trump brand, she's the interim communications director. that job at the white house is normally the president's about to give a big speech, here's the

themes we want talk about and now i'm going -- 28 years old. comes out of the new york donald trump organization, maybe they hired the right deputies for this. but she is not by training and experience anything close to a traditional white house communications director. this tells me that the president is saying, the people who wiork for me will protect me and that's their job. >> hope hicks, she's not sitting around on panels, she's not telling you what the president's policies are, she's just creating this megaphone so the information gets out. but in the white house, she's really been the trump whisperer. we know john kelly is trying to streamline that, so in that sense giving her a more defined role with more defined

responsibilities may take her a little bit further afield from the role of trump whisperer. but you have to remember how the president is watching all of this play out. he had really bad poll numbers during the campaign. there were, i can't even count the moments where our jaws d s dropped and said this is going to be the end of trump. and there's hope hicks sitting around in trump tower saying you guys were wrong and you're going to be wrong now. >> i wish her the best. but there's still nobody, nobody, if you go through the top ten or 15 people in this administration who have ever worked in the white house. that's part of the problem, i know i could list for the next 20 minutes who have reached out to him in the last 18 months and they have gotten knows from them. but the president says facts matter to him before he makes a statement. sorry, sir, but since when?

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welcome back, president trump has faced harsh criticism for not coming out against the kkk and white nationalism. >> the first statement i made was a fine statement, but you don't make statements that direct unless you know the fact. this event just happened. in fact a lot of the events were happening while we were speaking. >> it was clear saturday night that the hate groups were stoking controversy, the charlottesville mayor confirmed

heather heyer's death before trump spoke. when did this president despite he needs the facts before speaking? >> you are not allowed to be a president if you're not born in this country. he may not have been born in this country. we had the biggest audience in the history of inaugural speeches, you take a look at the registration, you have illegals, you have dead people, it's a really bad situation. it's really bad. you look at what's happening last night in sweden. sweden. who would believe this? sweden, they took in large numbers, they're having problems like they never thought possible. >> i have covered the white house for nearly 10 years, i'm all for presidents who are careful about what they said. dud this president have any correct when he stands there and says i need to be careful about what i said? >> this would be the first time he ever actually waited for the facts before he spoke. and those are a lot of good examples of him stretching the truth. but just in terms of terror attacks, in terms of any kind of

attacks, he's the first to get ahead of local authorities or federal authorities when he believes it was a terror attack, there was an attack in the philippines and the president said it was terror when the president of that country said that it was a robbery gone awry. >> he also made that point several times during this press conference, it really seemed to be rehearsed to the extent he rehearses anything, because he returned to it time and time again, which really takes you back to this whole concept that no one on his staff seemed to know he was going to do this, you have to wonder can that possible be true when there was the speech in the pocket and a couple of lines deployed a few times in the press conference. >> all is though the contrary to that is he does think that he's his own communications director,

his own speech writer, his own strategist, and you can't do all those jobs, especially if he's going to say the things he said. >> the whole thing about he didn't have all of the facts. >> what additional facts th did need at that time? but he's the greatest consumer of main stream media news on the planet. you were paying attention you knew there were neo-nazis, he says he didn't know david duke was there, maybe that, but -- >> in some ways, it was an indictment of his staff or his lack of curiosity in asking the right questions and we know he was probably watching this on tv. he said at one point he was watching this very closely, david duke, he apparently thought that the people were

having a candle light vigil when they're standing there with tiki torches spewing nazi like slogans. he had the facts as he saw them, he had the facts to marshall a view of the world that he wanted. >> you saw the president read from a teleprompter on monday at the white house, three days late, he said the right things, could have done more, should have done more, don't associate yourself with me. if he said those things on saturday, we would be having a very different conversation. then we saw what happened yesterday, clearly that's what the president thinks. there's no dispute about that. how should we believe the president when on a big issue he's looking down at a teleprompter when he get such a to z from this man. >> we see the president's

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president trump condemned both sides, his reasoning, not all those who were there on the right were violent. >> a lot of people were there to innocently protest, and very legally protest. i don't know if you know, they had a permit. the other group didn't have a permit. so i only tell you this, there are two sides to the story.

not all of those people were neo-nazis, believe me, not all of those people were white supremacists. most of those people were there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, robert e. lee. >> there's a lot of truth to what the president said, and there's no doubt that the protest did turn violent and counterprotesters turning violent also. the president claims the media is not recognizing the role of the counterprotesters, the people he calls the a llt-left. while he claims some of his protesters were not there to cause trouble. the night before white supremacists did walking through charlottesville chanting this.

>> jews will not replace us. >> that's the circle the president can't square, the square the president can't circle in the sense that, yes, every leader has the right to tell everybody, calm down, back off, violence is not the answer. but this is not apples and apples. this is evil and some people who may have gotten out of hand being there to protest evil. >> every time i see that, i'm afraid. i mean i group up in the deep south, but to see that sort of level of organization and coordination and the numbers of those folks who look young, they sort of look like your next door neighbor, somebody who could work at a bank. it's frightening and horrifying. >> not to tout other people's reporting, but it was excellent reporting with these people embedded with the crowd. and people were saying we're not

violent, but if people need to die -- >> the president's job is i'm going to deal with that. we'll have a conversation about the other stuff, there were some imperfect people down there, but i'm going to start with that. >> the other disturbing thing is that if you do watch that whole document try, the ne-o-nazis an the white supremacists are -- you as president don't want your words to sound at all reminiscent of what's coming out of the mouths of the white supremacists. yes, you need to distance yourself to make it clear and also you don't want to hear echos, and there are echoes if you listen to both. >> number one, the president's critics will keep criticizing him, and number two, these hate groups are planning more of this. thanks for joining us for inside politics. wolf blitzer's up after a quick break.

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