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everything around it is now all white. the stores, the people, the everything is now all white. even my boy mike here he's from cambridge as well. he moved over to places like mission hill which used to be a place of color and now it's turning into a whole bunch of other people, the rates are going up. it's difficult, very difficult. >> reporter: can i ask you about what happened here today and how you would describe the people and the numbers? were you surprised at the numbers of people who came out to stand up and say, we don't want any sort of racism to continue in this city and also stand against this rally that came? >> to be honest with you, no, i was not. it's sad at the fact i was not. the reason why because sometimes when it comes to things like this, it's unfortunate but it takes a white woman dying to get the national attention. this is a problem. police brutality is a problem. the pain. just the disparity between the men and women is a problem.
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all these different things are a problem. black lives matter even though they do. this protest happened in charlottesville, a white woman dies, we got everybody's attention. it's like -- i knew that once that happened, crowds would show up, the allies would show up, and people are like oh, my gosh it's always a problem. will smith said, racism has always been here we're just now recording it. >> reporter: because there is more attention because of what is happening in america right now and obviously because of the kkk and these groups trying to recruit and -- >> i don't think it's a cause and reaction. because they exist and they need a reason to exist so therefore people -- there is racism. what i think it is, is, people don't believe us. people don't believe us.
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we say it's happening and it's just like -- we keep throwing the evidence at them. it's happening. >> reporter: you're hearing someone with a passionate plea that there are issues that need to be worked out. back to you guys. >> thanks for his perspective as well. let's bring back our panel. welcome back to all of you. so michael, i want to ask you as you listen to that gentleman and here from a number of people who have descended on and walked through boston today. is this sort of a micro-causim in your view of a type of awakening in this country? >> there is certainly an awakening that's happening of people being active and mobilizing and not sitting on the sidelines. let's be clear, you know. charlottesville, boston,
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new york, chicago, wherever it may be in the country, we should all be absolutely denouncing immediately when we see what's happening here. let's make sure we're not continuing to promote a false equivalence between the two. these are one side, neo-nazi white nationalists that are fearful and displaying hatred on one community and everyone else that's saying, we want to stand up for equality and justice and opportunity in that manner. i'm a black young man in bronx, new york, who is an elected official. had to endure the challenges on a repeated basis last year of being tossed against the gate myself. if it wasn't for my name and title i don't know what happens in that moment. the conversations are not just about a statue, it's about what are we going to do at this moment in history. the reason why people are mobilizing and saying it's time to rise and organize is saying there have to be changes across the board and changes in our policy. when you think of doj standing
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up for minimal sentencing and his absolute appropriate silence in sending out two tweets about steve bannon. why don't you send out a tweet about the people on the ground? we need leading not tweeting. the president is going to stand up for all of us. this is a moment for us to understand. this is bigger than one day and bigger than what happened last week. i want to keep going back. for some reason our continuing to speak negatively about the people of virginia in saying, the people of boston have been responding better in terms of law enforcement. let's be clear. the reality is, we need to be mindful of the three lines of lives lost in virginia last week. we need to be cognizant of what's happening across the country. how do we move forwar people are standing up in a way that we may have not seen before and this is an opportunity for us to do something differently but we cannot ignore, we are in this position in large part, not just because of the tweets and the rhetoric that is coming out
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of donald trump, it has been a continuation of people feeling like in all different communities they are being disrespected and they want something to happen. they want a better deal for justice and a better deal for equality and an opportunity for awfully us. niger how do you see this -- point of renewal or a starting point off michael's thought there? >> well, i actually contrary to my colleague, i want to applaud very much like deputy mayor alexander who is been in law enforcement, his remarks were on point and spot on. i agree with them completely. i said something very similar. it seems like unlike virginia the people of boston and the people of massachusetts, the law enforcement, the political leadership decided that we will allow free speech but we will not allow violence and we will not allow extremists from the left, from the right, from whatever point of view politically to express their first amendment rights violently and so i want to applaud that
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and i think the lesson that the president should get from this is to applaud law enforcement ain the way that they deployed peacefully and deployed the peace. michael and i have dramatic different points of view. i think most people are celebrating the fact that donald trump or during the donald trump era so far, 1 million jobs have been created because at th end of the day, we can talkolitics all we want, but most people, black, white, hispanic, asian want a good job, good wages and a good future. >> absolutely. that's the reason why under president obama the last six months of president obama more jobs were created than the first six months of donald trump. that's the reason why we've been standing up for criminal justice reform and saying that more people should have opportunities as opposed to what donald trump and jeff sessions are promoting of expanding minimum mandatory sentencing. so for whatever reason, if we want to talk about the policies we can do that. we can talk about how we are standing up for a kberl deal for everyone. that's why people are saying about rise and organize.
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it is not just about a protest. niger, please answer, what does this mean in this moment of time? this moment of time is that people are tired and sick and tired of what they have seen over the last six and a half months? >> that's interesting -- that's interesting that you're sieg that. >> more jobs were created in the last six months of president obama than the first six months of donald trump. even this week when we talk about policies, the trump administration moved forward on a policy so that young children that have parents lawfully and legally here from honduras now cannot come here. doubling down on the unconstitutional muslim ban, doubling down on against women, doubling down about what's going on in this community. this is an opportunity to say what do we do from here? elections matter, everyone from the school board to the senate from the city council to congress from the state house to the white house. that's why you have to be engaged in what's going on in new jersey, virginia, and massachusetts and all across the board. elections matter. why? because a year ago today donald
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trump said, what the hell do black people have to lose? when you see what's going on in the country right now, all of us have something to lose if we don't stand up and unite around a positive direction. it is time for us to recognize we can't keep ignoring the rhetoric out of the trump administration. it has to be something positive and -- >> it's hard to overlook not respond, not assess what transpired in boston today and a week after what took place in charlottesville. what do you suppose or what is your hope in hring from the president of the uteates on boston, even though his remarks initially and then his later remarks on charleston -- on charlottesville made for a very bad week for the president of the united states. we've heard from the president as it pertains to steve bannon in via tweet today, we heard a
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statement coming from the white house as it pertains to the kennedy center honors, but what about this issue right here on boston and the collection of hundreds, if not thousands of people. how important is it that the president say something? >> i think it's absolutely important and i think the guest that sarah had on earlier on the ground in boston said something really important and -- people don't believe us and i think people of color marginalize communities have felt that for quite some time. racism isn't new. it didn't develop in charlottesville last weekend. it's not developing this week. this is part of the foundation unfortunately of our country and so for the past couple of decades, people have been saying there's something wrong. this administration, people of color and marginalized communities have been saying there's something wrong and i think the guest that sarah had on when he said, people are not listening. that's one of the first things that i think when the president
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takes as long as he does to respond to these issues when -- it's not white supremacy isn't something you shake off. it's -- the separation of power with steve bannon and all of these other folks that people have been calling for to leave the white house, that doesn't remove an ideology. we saw the president today tweeting about how he thinks breitbart with steve bannon at the helm is going to be a good counterfor quote/unquote, fake news. that relationship how much of it was how much of this firing shall we say was actually meaningful and whether or not that relationship -- was that just for show or something at'soing to have an impact on the esidt's views i think remas to be seen. i don't think a lot of people won't believe much that comes out of this. i do want to mention something that the other panels were talking about. we often toss around the word jobs and the economy and that's one of the things i study and
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economics. i got to tell you guys, i'm sure you're aware of this. there are jobs and there are jobs and so when -- and this has been studied by the economic policy institute. african-american men and women, black american men and women who have the same experience and the same education as their white counterparts are often paid less. so when we talk about jobs, are we talking about pay equity, are we talking about jobs that have benefits. a lot of people in color and poor people in a lot of communities are struggling with low-paying jobs. jobs that have shift works or don't have benefits. jobs are the solution. everyone wants a job, everyone wants to be able to contribute to the society and to work, but i think at the end of the day it's really easy to look over the discrimination that the culver discrimination that often shows up in a lot of our -- >> takes reminder. it was at the core of the civil rights movement. as soon as you talk about that and make that reference, i can't help but envision the placards
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that i am a man on one of the demonstrators. it was about equality and what behind martin luther king's n social justice plan here was about equality and leveling the playing field. we're not done with this topic, thank you for now because of course this is -- we don't know what juncture this is but this is a continuation of a conversation and a crisis in america that seems to be ongoing. thank you so much for now. appreciate it. these protests in boston are coming just one week after the deadly march in charlottesville, virginia. now police are adding new charges against the man who drove his car into the group leaving one woman dead and dozens more injured. details next.
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with second-degree murder. cnn rosa flores is covering this story for us. what more are you learning? >> reporter: we are learning more about those five felony counts which include two counts of malicious wounding and three counts of aggravated malicious wounding. these new charges are added to the slue of charges that james fields already faces which includes one count of second-degree murder, three counts of malicious wounding and what count of hit and run. fields is in custody. no bond has been set pending a bond hearing and he has been appointed an attorney and that attorney just happens to be the former county procutor and his next hearing is set for august 25th. >> and you also have new reporting about christopher cantwell, that's the white nationalist prominently featured in the special that came from that rally.
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what more? >> reporter: cnn has learned from a senior law enforcement source familiar with the investigation that other warrants have been issued including for christopher cantwell like you mentioned. he's the white nationalist who was featured in that vice news special report and among many of the racist things that he mentioned, he also mentioned that the killing of heather heyer was more than justified. as you know, heather heyer is the 32-year-old woman who died after a car rammed through a street full of counterprotesters. she died and 19 other people wounded. but again as for those warrants from this senior law enforcement source, those warrants have been issued but at this moment they have not been served, fred. >> all right. thank you so much. all right. up next the growing debate over the removal of confederate monuments and statues across the
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u.s. the southern poverty law center says, there are at least 1,500 that dot the nation. last night in winston, salem, north carolina a confederate soldier statue was defaced. eight have been arrested for tearing down memorials there and the mayors of baltimore or birmingham removed or colored confederate statues in the week. the nation's largest confederate memorial is at stone mountain, georgia. remember let freedom ring from the stone mountain of georgia. today it's a place of many uses and points of view. >> reporter: with a bird's-eye view of atlanta, the 90 foot tall carving of jefferson davis. robert e lee and stonewall jackson prominently on the north face of georgia's nearly
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900 foot high stone mountain. the centerpiece of a state park attracting 3 million tourists, bikers, joggers and hikers a year. >> seeing the world from god's eye view. >> reporter: and now, again, the carving here making it a centerpiece of discussions as hot as the august sun. >> i'm conious of them. >> reporter: is it comfortably ignoring it. >> pretty much. >> reporter: why is that? i believe that stand for the old way the united states was now we're more a melting pot, more than ever now. >> i don't think you can erase history. it happened. i think people have to learn from it because if you erase it, people don't know. >> you can voice your opinion but don't force it on somebody else. >> reporter: passionate views following the disturbing images 500 miles away at the white nationalist gatherings in virginia involving a confederate monument. the death of antihate protest demonstrator heather heyer laid to rest this week and following
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the u.s. president's comments about removing confederate symbols. >> you're changing history, you're changing culture. >> reporter: and his teets, the president asking whose next? on stone mountain, among those we talked to a resounding feeling that actions speak louder than symbols. >> you know, it's a really sad issue. i don't think the carving taking the way of carving is going to change the heart. >> reporter: while this nation's largest monument may abe high point for other individuals for groups like this one. >> god bless america. >> reporter: posing with confederate flags atop the mountain posting on facebook and later saying they would defend the monument. >> is it etched into the consciousness of everyone who comes he? >> not necessarily. a lot of the people that take advantage of what the park has to offer really didn't come in this area. >> reporter: john bankhead the public information officer says this sher for the first time in a long time it received a cross burning request by a group
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identifying itself as the ku klux klan, a request denied this month. >> reporter: how much of that is true? >> this request was made in may and we had to go to the legal people here in georgia, attorney general's office to get opinions on what we can do to deny it and we never intended to allow that to go on here, giving, you know -- we know the history of this park, we know the history of this mountain. we're just not going to allow that to happen. >> reporter: as a request like that happened often? >> no. first time it ever happened other than 1962. >> part of the memorialization was an effort to remember these men who had sacrificed during war. it happened at the same time that a much broader political project was going on in the south in which the south southern states had passed laws that were disenfranchising african-american and restoring white rule.
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>> reporter: in georgia despite a flurry of tweets urging the removal or sand blasting and the georgia naacp stating. >> we as the birthplace of the civil rights movement must act in accordance with true american values. >> reporter: any change at stone mountain is complicated. georgia state law has a clear mandate for the memorial saying, it should be, quote, preserved and protected for all time as a tribute to the bravery and heroism of the citizens of this state who suffered. the carving of this monument was a 60 year project, initially involving a sculpt tour of south carolina's mt. rush more. it would be completed under richard nixon's administration. 45 years later, under the nation's 45th president, stone mountain's carving and confederate monuments like it, both landmarks and lightning rods. underscoring under perspective on americans of the
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removal of statues in the, are 62% of those polls believe they should remain. thanks so much for being with us. "newsroom" continues right after this. this is joanne. her long day as a hair stylist starts with shoulder pain when... hey joanne, want to trade the all day relief of 2 aleve with 6 tylenol? give up my 2 aleve for 6 tylenol? no thanks. for me... it's aleve.
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police attempted to push back protesters. some of them there for a free speech rally. others there to counter them. take a look. >> unite and fight the right. unite, unite and fight the right! >> now this was earlier in boston wave after wave of people rejecting extremism, embracing unity, determined to stand up to hate after last weekend's deadly violence in virginia. cnn correspondents are in boston right now. sarah, there were fears obviously that this was going to be a repeat of last weekend in charlottesville, virginia, but it certainly was not. tell us what you've been witnessing and hearing on the ground. >> reporter: we have seen thousands of people and i'm talking a very diverse crowd. a lot of those marching along chanting black lives matter were caucasian. they were white folk in here. i'll give you
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