two other agents were in front of us chasing after matthews. and matthews turned inside this house and he was waiting for the first guy to come across. as soon as that first agent came around the corner, he spotted matthews and went into a slide like they did in baseball. when he did, matthews opens up with his .45. the bullet went through his foot. >> "declassified" is next. thanks for joining us on this saturday night. good night. in this country, we have fanatical, violent people based on right wing, white se people -- supremacy. >> we'll kill, march, anything we have to do to stop them.

>> these people want a pure arian nation. >> they'll do anything to punish and kill people that aren't part to have white race. >> there will be a lot of blood running one day. america will be white and christian. >> i've never encountered a group with a goal to eliminate jews from the face of the earth and ultimately overthrow the united states government, until we discovered the terrorist organization called the order. >> as a former fbi agent, i had oversight of all 16 of our nation's intelligence agencies. my name is mike rogers. i had access to classified information gathered by our operatives. people who risked everything for the united states and our families. you don't know their faces or their names. you don't know the real stories

from the people who lived the fear and the pressure, until now. >> i first went undercover in the fbi at about -- i think it was 1967. i had specialized in the fbi in domestic terrorist cases, organized crime, and undercover. and in 1984, i was working with the mafia when an opportunity came up in idaho. it was a one-man office, and the agent that had been there had left and nobody was there. it's a beautiful, idyllic spot. and so i jumped on that, and

along with a lot of other people, i threw my hat into the ring and i was fortunate enough that i got selected. i packed up my gear, left the family, headed out there and i found my office, the door was a little 8 x 10, nobody has been there in months, cobwebs going across there. i shook my head and thought, well, what did i get myself in here? this is not quite what i expected. but i was in a beautiful place. i think perhaps the reason that i was selected or one of the reasons is because i had domestic terrorism experience, a lot of it. i worked with the klu klux klan in alabama. so i was a likely person to step in and look at the group located in that area called the arian nation. they were the political arm of

the church of jesus christ christian, a religious organization that believed the jews were the biblical enemy. >> the plague known as jews, this plague is poisoning our people to death. >> the agent that had been there before i got there suspected but didn't know that this organization might be involved in criminal activity. there were rumors they might involved in terrorist type activity, as well. we had nothing really to go on. i commenced my investigation on a somewhat full-time basis in about march of 1984. that was just me. nobody else in the office, nobody else working the case. one of the very first things i did is i met with larry broadbent. he was undersheriff in the

county, which is the county that cortelane is located in, and he was conducting a one-man investigation into the arian nation. i said larry, show me all the criminal activity that we may have some suspicions they're related to this group. we pinpointed about five or six different crimes and probably 30 or 40 different people. that was sort of the beginning. and after he left, i was convinced that there was more than just moesmoke, there was a real fire here. but i didn't know much. i didn't know anything about what ultimately we were going to discover. that was the fact that there was a different organization than the arian nations that had committed all these crimes. later, we would learn that it was a religious and political

terrorist organization called the order. led by a man named robert matthews. >> bob matthews was very charismatic. he was a young man, in his 30s. he had been involved in the right wing movement, especially the white national alliance, for years. >> jews, get the heck out of here! i didn't come down here to hear you! >> he believes that the jews were subverting the american cause, and that the jews controlled the finances, the government, which he called the zog, the zionist occupied government. and he thought i've got to do something. he wanted to eliminate jews from the government within the united states. and ultimately overthrow the united states government. he wanted a pure arian nation.

he begins to recruit arian warriors. he finds about seven people within the arian nation organization and he drafts those people and he reaches out to the sword of the lord and he pulls some of them in, and he goes to the klu klux klan and gets some of them. people like gary lee yarboro, david lane and others. and now he has dedicated, core members, which was ultimately the group known as the order. these were the people that bob matthews was going to depend on to carry the war against the jews in charge of the united states government. in september of 1983, the order had taken their first efforts to f

finance themselves as arian warriors. initially, they tried counterfeiting. they did a terrible job and managed to get one of their primary leaders, bruce carol pierce, caught in their first cert to pass this counterfeit money. so after that failed, bob ma theus felt as the leader of this group, he had to do something to show the others they weren't a failure and they were going to continue forward. so he robbed a bank in december. it was a successful robbery, and it gave him a tremendous amount of confidence. and he was able to tell the others look, i did this. we can do this. following right on the heels of that, gary and bruce decided well, yeah, bob did that, we'll do it. so the next month, they robbed a bank and they're successful. they look at the take of their money, which is about $40,000, and they think we're on the

right track, but we're not thinking big enough. we have to plan bigger. we need to hit armored cars. the first armored car robbery they did with four people. then he grows his group and bob has seven people for the second robbery in seattle. and they get away with about $200,000. >> these are certainly not ordinary bank robbers. they robbed the armored car to enable them to fund their battle, not to put in their pocket or buy drugs. they're stealing for the cause. >> the more money the order had, the bigger threat they were to the united states government. as a result of armored car robberies, they were able to go out and purchase firearms, a lot of ammunition. they were becoming a very, very strong army. >> by this time, bob has become inspirational. and people are drawn to him. he's made them believe that they

will be successful. at that point, they were well ahead of me. look, i'm playing catch-up. all these things have happen and i don't know how it ties together. i'm still trying to put together a report that i can send to the department of justice that will show another probable cause that they will allow me to do a full scale investigation. otherwise, i'm limited. my hands are tied. i need a team of agents. i want to develop informants and get this going so i have real information on what's happening. but i'm not allowed to do that until the attorney general says okay. now, i sent my report off in june, and while i wait for the justice department to say okay, robert matthews decides it's time to strike out against an enemy of their race. we're talking about the killing of a jew, that would be the

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they came together and said who are our greatest jewish influenced enemies. and the names came up like norman leer, a prominent producer of some comedy shows. and morris deese, the head of the southern poverty law center. and then they looked at a man named alan berg. he was a very prominent personality in denver, colorado, and becoming a very prominent personality throughout the country, because he had his own radio show widely broadcast. he was a jew. and he was a very, very obnoxious individual. >> i'm fed up with you. you never let me get a word in edge wise. >> alan berg got on the radio and called white supremacists on his talk show and continually

talked down to them, insulting them, laughing at their beliefs. every time the person got ready to answer, berg cut them off and said insulting to them. >> i'll hang up on you. >> both of you hang up, cowards. >> one of the guys in the order, who was also head of the klan in colorado, was a guy named david lane. david lane called in and berg ate him up like a cheap sandwich. he went after him. >> i think they're the responsible of the murder of 15 million white christians. >> i think you're sick and pathetic. >> berg has insulted him, so they decide, we're going to take him out. >> in june of 1984, rob matthews made the decision to have alan berg assassinated. so he pulls together his team,

he takes charles pierce, richard, and david lane, and they go to denver, colorado. once they got there, they set up surveillance at his residence. and they wait for im. >> berg opened the door and they opened up on him with a fully automatic machine gun. berg was hit multiple times and he died at the spot. >> is the order a terrorist operation? >> absolutely. absolutely, 100%. it didn't matter if there were mass casualties. they were willing to do everything to achieve their goals. >> these were dangerous people and were becoming more dangerous as time progressed. which, if you looked at the timeline, after they did the first two armored car robberies, bruce carroll pierce leaves with richard kemp and they go to

boise and bomb a jewish synagogue. that was an act of terrorism. there was no money to be had. there was no criminal game. it was punishment. >> they felt emboldened, and things escalated rapidly. in july of 1984, we learned about the armored car robbery of a brinks truck in ukiah, california. >> it was on the last day of the democratic convention in san francisco in 1984. we're waiting for convention to be over and a phone call came in say thing's been an armory car robbery. when we got involved, we had no idea about the order, and all the players that people involved at the time. that was a separate criminal case. so i get to the scene, figure out what hatched and it started growing from there. we discovered they scoped out where the truck would be most

vulnerable and decided to hit the truck on highway 20 outside of ukiah. they bought cars, trucks, a 30-pound box of roofing nails and thank you them on the road. the truck gets flat fires and they surround the truck. they actually shot at the truck, and the shotgun blast went through the glass, hits the people inside. they claimed out and someone in one of the pickup trucks held up a sign that said get out or die. and then they were able to get into the back and start pulling money bags back. one of the guys was calling out time marks. eight minutes gone. nine minutes gone. they were very disciplined. in and out of ten minutes and got north of $3.5 million.

>> it was one of the greatest armory car robberies of all time. for everybody else, this is a bad thing. for me, it was a breakthrough, because bob matthews made a huge mistake. >> during the armored truck armory, matthews was holding a gun, and he left that gun on the front seat of the truck. when we recovered the gun, it took about a week to trace it. it originally had been produced by andrew barnhillen in montana. >> we traced him to idaho. we went inside and found lots of information. >> they found automatic weapons, large quantity of cash, receipts, i.d.s, and other information that tied him into the order. >> well, so any milk carton had some personal items and buried down in the bottom is an article

on a bank robbery. why do you keep one article like that in your personal possessions? because he had something to do with it. >> at this point, i feel like we've got enough, let's expand our case. but i've got to wait for the justice department to say okay. i sent my report off in june. now we're in july, and i sat and i waited until they finally came back and they said, yes, it's a go. now the case was about to greatly expand once we had this authority to do the full-scale domestic security investigation. the fbi is going to pour into this investigation and we did. >> at the time i was on leave, stationed in providence, rhode island. i got a call from the office. i was to report for duty the following day and to bring a rifle.

i've never worked domestic terrorism cases to that point in my career. my general impression from reading everything was they were very sophisticated and they were very dangerous people. >> initially, when we arrive there, we realize we were investigating things that happened last month, that we had finally realized had been done by the order. the first thing i did is call back to fbi headquarters and say, send me 20 agents. they're getting bigger, it's spreading all over the western united states. >> now i had a team. the ball game had changed. we were now in the game. ♪

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these trucks come from? we started backtracking and the guys say hey, i met a guy and sold him a truck and he was staying at the motel 6 and started pulling those records. we discovered they all stayed in the santa rosa area, at a super 8. so the fellows in santa rosa pulled all the phone numbers from all the phone booths and put them into a database and we started coming up with numbers. >> that was amazing intelligence. and so when i got a call telling me that calls were made to a jerry in sand point, i drove to where that phone was located at that residence, and we took up a surveillance position. after a few hours, a guy comes walking out of a residence. i looked at him through the binocul binoculars, i said that's gary

yarboro, the same guy that's in photographs that we acquired of individuals that belong to the order. and we needily directed two teams of agents for observation of gary yarboro. what we had to do at this point was patiently wait. we had gathered a great deal of intelligence information, but i still wasn't in a position to arrest anybody. >> we had evidence that linked certain members of the group to criminal activities, but we didn't feel like we could go to a grand jury and get a warrant and indict. >> we were looking for a break to get through that log jam, and the break was thomas martinez being arrested in philadelphia, pennsylvania, for passing counterfeit money. >> robert matthews had been

counterfeiting money, and matthews at the time was trying to recruit additional members. one of those members was an individual he knew from the national alliance which the name of thomas martinez. martinez lived in the philadelphia area and provided with counterfeit u.s. currency. he was instructed by matthews and others in the order to take those bills a and to pass them. when he did, he got caught. he was paid a visit by the secret service and arrested. >> after they had their initial interview with martinez, they recognized this was something bigger than this few bills of counterfit that had been fis pa. so they called the fbi. >> they said, i've got a guy here in philadelphia arrested for counterfeiting, do you want to talk to him? >> damn right we want to talk to

him. >> once he decided to cooperate, he opened the doors and supplied a lot more pieces of the puzzle. >> who was responsible for the armory car robbery in seattle. who participated in the ukiah robbery? all of these questions could be answered by thomas martinez. he told me without all these things they had done and were doing, and it was martinez who basically introduced us to the book "the turner diaries." it's an account of a group of people just like we're talking about that manage to overthrow the united states government. >> september 16, 1991. today it finally begins. after all these years of talking and nothing but talking, we have finally taken our first action. we're at war with the system,

and it's no longer a war of words. >> they're not talking about overthrowing the government, they're overthrowing it. >> and bob matthews took this book at his bible, and he followed it. so in "the turner diaries," armor car robberies, executions. and that's what the order did. so martinez was a wealth of information. you might say we had a lot of little pieces and he was able to move them around for us and show us where they fit. once we had the agreement made with tom martinez that he would help us, we knew we had to be patient. like the hunter, we had to wait for bob matthews to invustruct matthews. we were moving at lightning speed, and we greatly increased our surveillance of gary

yarboro. >> so we let a couple of agents go to his house and he fired three shots up. by shooting at those two people he committed a crime called assault on a federal officer. that gave us the ability to get arrest warrant for gary for shooting at the two agents and a search sarn search warrant for gary's house. >> he saw us coming and bailed out of his house. >> xwgary escaped that night, b the evidence of information we got upon searching gary's house was unbelievable. >> we found all kinds of documents written by the order. command structure and all the members. and their code names. now we've got the whole story.

now we can see everything. >> we saw guns, dynamite, ammunition, swastikas on the wall, and both me and my partner suba mack sub-10 machine gun, the type of weapon to kill berg. we both said, you don't think they're stupid enough to have kept that weapon, do you? the next morning i get a phone call from the firearms examiner that said that is the gun that killed alan berg? >> how did you feel? >> total exhilaration. total. gotcha. talk about physical evidence. they kept this gun that killed alan berg. >> here we are chasing one crime after another and finally we've got caught up. we felt like we had enough information to successfully bring forth criminal charges and receive a conviction.

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after we had the confrontation with yarboro in okay of 1984, we gathered a great deal of intelligence information that finally started to put together the little

pieces of the puzzle that were missing. and now we felt like we had enough information to successfully bring forth criminal charges. there was no more cat and mouse game. we were right on their heels. and i wanted to take them all down as soon as possible. because they were growing in numbers with a goal of overthrowing the united states government and eliminating jews from the face of the earth. >> they were headed wrong and they were headed wrong fast. they robbed these armored cars, shot this talk show host. they were following "the turnei. the principle character in "the turner diaries" blew up fbi headquarters. so we had to take them down. >> we knew that our informant, tom martinez, was our link to matthews and his followers.

in about october of 1984, a phone call came in to martinez with instructions as to where to go to meet bob. and that was what we were waiting for. so the real purpose is to hope that matthews is going to bring martinez into the core of the group and we'll habe able to ma significant arrests. we're going to arrest whomever he meets with. >> the day before thanksgiving in 1984, martinez flew there. we had agents inside the airport that were doing the surveillance. when martinez arrived, matthews walks up by him. martinez sees him and follows matthews out. our gthere was a guy hanging back, he was watching martinez

and matthews. he went outside, this guy gets in the car. that guy was gary yarboro. >> as they're driving, martinez said i made a reservation at such and such holiday inn. matthews said don't worry about that, we made reservations where we're staying. that turned out to be the capri hotel. >> that scared tom. that was a kink in the plans and he's thinking they're going to take me a place where the fbi doesn't know i'm at. but we managed to get a call to him to let him know we knew where he was. a raid was planned on the motel. martinez was told to stay in his room, not to leave for any reason. >> daylight comes and we were getting ready to make the bust. all of a sudden i hear this commotion. >> as it happened, matthews walked out just before the raid

was to take place. >> i don't know what he saw, but something spooked him. >> and he jumped and ran. >> matthews ran down the stairway and takes off and runs across the parking lot. didn't have a chance to get to his car. he was on foot and he was boogying. in the meantime, i could hear noise coming from the back. i look out and there's yarboro hanging from the window sill. since he hits the ground, he's got pistols jams at him from all angles. >> one thing i noted, there was hand grenades sitting on a night hand with some long weapons in there, as well. so the agent had seen matthews run down the street. so we start chasing after him. two other agents were in front of us chasing after matthews. and matthews turned inside this

house and waiting at the corner. as soon as that first agent came around the corner, he spotted matthews and he went into a slide like you do in baseball. when he did, matthews opens up with his .45. the bullet went through his foot. >> the next pursuing agent with a shotgun fired back at that thousand -- matthews and only hit his hand. matthews hand looked like a cartoon thing where you hold your hand up and you could see through it. it was just mangled. >> i start tracking, and at that poichlt, all i could think of is the hand grenades i've seen at that point. i'm thinking he's going to lob a grenade at us. so you do what you got to do. >> he goes into this heavily vegetated area, and i'm following him. >> the last i saw of matthews

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in the fall of 1984, the last i saw of matthews was his blood trail, and i had no idea where he went. >> bob matthews escaped through us because we had no idea where he would go next. >> somebody like matthews, he might be hiding out, but he's waiting to get his army together. so we had to locate him and take him down, fast. >> fortunately, within a matter of a few days, through some informants that developed, we were able to locate the whereabouts of bob matthews and six members of the order to his hideout in washington.

when i got there, it was december 7, 1984. and i didn't know this, but on november 25th, bob matthews and pulled all of his people together and drafted a letter to the united states congress, and it was a declaration of war. so bob matthews was committed to fight to the end. but so were we. >> they were staying in two different houses. the houses were approached. people in one house all surrendered. when they approached matthews' house, he was given an opportunity to surrender, refused to do so. >> come out with your hands up. >> we did everything we could to try to get him out of there. and when we decided that bob wouldn't come out, we made a plan to do in and get him. >> dozens of fbi agents armed with automatic weapons and

dressed in full combat fatigues have been bussed to the scene. >> bob was upstairs and he had multiple weapons and lots of ammunition. so we moved in, and we used sound grenades and blew the glass out and then i heard the gunfire. he began to shoot indiscriminately through the building. i remember i was standing by the window with a weapon, and somebody yells from the woodline, look out, he's in the window above you. i crouched down and i looked up and i realized the bullets came out over my head and hit the ground next to me, but we couldn't get a view of him. so we pulled back and waited until that night. that night we put a flare into the bottom of the house so we could light up the bottom so he couldn't see to get out. and once again, tried to get him to surrender.

but he responded with gunfire. we had helicopters come over the house and he shot at the helicopters. all of this was going the fire was from the flare that was in the bottom of the house. the shooting continued all night. rounds being fired by bob. and then rounds just going off indiscriminately. it was a war zone. at daylight, i walked up to the cabin and i found bob's body lying in the rubble. and the buyer house was destroyed. whatever evidence was there was no longer there. he came to a fiery end just like the fictional character, turner, in the book "the turner diaries." once he done that, he was

exalted like the sainthood of the neo-nazis. he was a martyr. >> just like an isis martyr. that's exactly the kind of situation we had in the order. that dedication than kind of if he ever if he ever makes those people he recruited makes those people say to themselves, i'm going to be like bob mathews. >> bob deliberately sacrificed his life knowing that the blood of martyrs stirs the people. >> after bob died there was a belief amongst the believers of the order it would only take a spark to reignite the whole thing. we began an intensified manhunt to locate the others. if we didn't do it light and fast, a lot of good people were going to be hurt and affected by the actions of this group.

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>> everybody fled in a hundred directions. they scattered like cockroaches and we had hundreds of agents working 24 hours a day, seven days a week. >> they couldn't even plan to do a criminal act. they were just planning out how to stay out of our grasp. we were right behind them. >> when mathews burned up, they were looking for a leader. bob was dead and he was the absolute iron fisted leader. he made the decisions. he was gone. >> they not only lost their motivational leader but their operational leader. they became a group of fugitives scattered across the country and had to fend for themselves until we ran them down. >> as we starred making arrests, we would interview these people. some of them would talk, some wouldn't. but everybody that would talk, we would get more and more information. and we were successful in locating everybody. >> we really break the back of the order at that point with mathews dead and some of them already indicating that they

were going to testify against their friends if it meant they would get a smaller, shorter criminal sentence. >> in seattle, ten people all members of a white supremacist group called the order are on trial these days. the charges include murder, arson, robbery, counterfeiting and dealing in stolen property. >> prosecutor gene wilson decided i'm going to make this a risk cocase. a risk cocase say federal law that says if an organized group of individuals get together to commit criminal activities for a agreed upon reason regardless of when they joined or what they did was guilty of all of the crimes. and, of course, it ended up being a laundry list. bang robberies, armored car robberies, murder, and bombings. the trial lasted about two months. and slowly but surely different

order members who had turned against the group came in to the courtroom and testified for three, four, five days and would sit there and point out each one of them. >> in seattle today, ten members of a neo-nazi group known as the order were convicted on racket tearing charges. >> they were all convicted quite quickly and i mean literally within a day. their sentences varied. but everybody got pretty substantial time. prosecutors are delighted with the verdict which they believe breaks the back of the order once and for all. >> the outcome was so rewarding. taken down, some of america's

worst. i participated in the arrests of the unabomber. he didn't come close to the potential of these guys. this was probably the largest criminal spree by any gang in history for many, many years. and after it had all come to an end, there was a general belief amongst the followers of the order that the spirit of the movement represented by mathews and his followers was still very much alive. >> always blessing. we could have been successful. we will be ultimately successful. change will take place. >> lo and behold it wasn't long before timothy mcveigh came along with the oklahoma city bombing. and he had read the turner diaries and he had picked up where he saw bob mathews and his group had stopped. so we are able to say with confidence today that those

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