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the u.s. navy is searching for ten sailors missing after the "u.s.s. john mccain" collided with a merchant ship. >> this does not look good. the longer the time goes the less the chances are. >> you now have ten families who are going through hell. they don't know where their young sailors are. what does success look like in afghanistan? that's a question the president is going to have to answer. >> it's a whole lot easier to get into these wars than it is to get out of them. >> president trump giving his first major national security address amid growing fallout over his charlottesville remarks. we would never allow any other president in the country to act and behave that this president has. >> it will be very difficult for this president to lead if, in fact, that moral authority remains compromised. this is "new day" with chris
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cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning. welcome come to your any day. an intense search is under way to find ten missing sailors. a u.s. navy destroyer collided with an oil tanker east of singapore. this is the fourth crash involving a u.s. navy warship in recent memory. >> president trump is back at the white house from vacation preparing to address the nation tonight. the president will unveil his strategy for the nearly 16 year long war in afghanistan. he is expected to send more troops to the region. let's begin with cnn's ryan brown live at the pentagon for us with all of the breaking details. what have you learned? >> reporter: we're learning a little bit more about the circumstances of this crash, again, taking place just east of singapore, just east of the straits of malacca, a heavily trafficked area, the john mccain colliding against a much larger oil tanker, suffering severe damage, a hole being for in the side of the ship, compartments, a sleeping compartment, a communications compartment flooded, the crew had to battle
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the flooding, conduct damage control to keep the ship going and they were able to safely bet it back to port, but as you mentioned earlier there are ten sailors missing, five additional sailors suffered injuries, four of them were evacuated via helicopter they're being treated now, we're told none of those injuries are life-threatening. with regard to the ten missing sailors there is a large mission under way. u.s. aircraft are looking for them, also aircraft and navy ships from the republic of singapore conducting a search in the hopes of trying to locate these sailors. their families have been notified, beginning to be notified that these sailors are missing. this all comes just two months after a similar collision with the uss fitzgerald which cost the life of seven u.s. sailors. there was fallout from that coalition and the leaders of that vessel from relieved of duty in the recent weeks. several of these instances, the u.s. navy definitely going to conduct an investigation as to what went wrong there.
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>> we have the antidum that ran aground but the other three including what just happened with the uss mccain all involved other ships, private vessels, i'm sure the navy is looking at this pattern as well. so the president is going to have a chance to address you and the entire nation about what happened with these sailors in prime time tonight but he's really there to give you his long awaited strategy for the nearly 16 year long war in afghanistan. cnn's sara murray live at the white house with more. a lot of political implications with this one tonight. >> reporter: that's right, chris. a big moment for the president. it's one of the rare addresses he will be giving to the nation since taking office and it comes at a point where his credibility, his character, his ability to lead the country has all come under question, under criticism. he's going to have to stand up in front of the american public tonight and make the case that they can trust him and his path forward when it comes to afghanistan. >> it's a very big decision for
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me. i took over a mess and we're going to make it a lot less messy. >> reporter: president trump set to outline his strategy for america's path forward in afghanistan. a major test for the new commander in chief, one that could put more american troops in harm's way. after meeting with top administration officials at camp david on friday, the president announcing saturday he had made a decision after months of deliberation and delays. >> the president has made a decision, as he said. he wants to be the one to announce it to the american people. it is a south asia strategy, it's not just an afghanistan strategy. >> reporter: the president has been presented with a wide range of options, everything from a full withdrawal to the deployment of up to 4,000 more soldiers, adding to the more than 8,000 american forces already there. that's an option recently ousted chief strategist steve bannon opposed. the founder of the controversial security firm blackwater has
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also lobbied the white house to begin relying more heavily on private contractors. defense secretary jim mattis remaining tight lipped about the details, but he gave this sobering assessment in june on the state of the nearly 16-year long war. >> we're not winning in afghanistan right now. >> reporter: trump has questioned the purpose of america's continued involvement in afghanistan. repeatedly advocating for full withdrawal on twitter, before running for president. officials say he remains deeply skeptical, but his doubts have come up against hawkish generals in his inner circle. any troop increase sure to meet at least some resistance from democrats. >> i don't believe putting more american soldiers in afghanistan is the answer. >> reporter: this crucial national security decision comes amid questions about the president's leadership capability and mounting backlash to trump's defense of white supremacists in charlottesville last week. >> you had some very bad people in that group but you also had
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people that were very fine people on both sides. >> it's going to be very difficult for this president to lead if, in fact, that moral authority remains compromised. >> reporter: the president's approval ratings, taking a hit. dipping below 40% in three key midwest states that helped trump win the presidency. with six in ten americans saying they are embarrassed by the president's conduct. now, tonight we will be seeing teleprompter trump, carefully crafted statements as the president takes on the somber role of commander in chief, but tomorrow we could see a very different president trump, that is when he's going to be traveling to arizona, he will be holding a campaign-style rally in phoenix. this is a state where both of the senators, john mccain and jeff flake have been harshly critical of the president. >> let's be honest, we don't know what we're going to get tonight. that's one reason people will watch. you never know what you're going to get with this president. >> cnn political analyst david drucker, coren dee murjer and
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april ryan. great to have you back in studio. >> great to be here. >> even better looking in person. >> indeed. >> charmer. >> just to get that matter of fact. >> stated out there. it's important. >> one of the first things that happens with the president heading in tonight is how is he going to deal with the tailers. let's play a piece of sound that he's getting heat for in his initial response to what had happened. play it. >> that's too bad. >> that's too bad, he said it twice. the question is this, do we believe that he knew what had happened and that was just his response or do you think that the president was hearing that for the first time? >> if he hadn't been briefed yet that i guess is a knee jerk response that he could make but you would assume something like this that the president would be briefed fairly quickly and maybe should have a little bit more to say in that situation, however, this is kind of a normal a sounding trump response to a lot of things, it's a little bit off the cuff and then he is leapt on
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for that because these are very serious things especially when you are talking about missing sailors that you would want him to take and say something a little bit more in-depth. this is what being president is, things come at you from all different directions and then you have to be able to have that sort of position where you can have that authority to say something that's informative. this has been where he has tripped up many different times. >> then he got it right, you know, analysts say then with the tweet, david drucker, the tone was more presidential, his thoughts and prayers are with the u.s. navy sailors aboard the "u.s.s. john mccain," where such and rescue efforts are under way. so, look, we've always seen the difference between teleprompter president trump and off the cuff president trump and that's what we're going to see again tonight with afghanistan. one of the questions about what he's doing tonight with afghanistan, why now? you know, it's long overdue, i think that mattis had promised there would be an afghanistan strategy mid-july, but why today? is there some sort of effort to
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divert from everything that happened last week in charlottesville, et cetera? >> i mean, look, that could be one of the reasons and i'm sure at the white house they'd like to have a reset and get past what happened in charlottesville, but the president has made a decision, they have been debating this for months trying to figure out what to do about afghanistan. i think the important thing here is that it appears as though the president is not just making a knee jerk decision based on a campaign promise, he has taken a look at the geopolitical reality of what we're facing in afghanistan, what pulling out of the country would mean in terms of giving terrorists a place to plan, giving them a haven which they could plot against the united states. the whole reason we're there and we forget this because it's been so long -- >> so does he -- >> the whole reason we're there is because of what happened on 9/11. this is where they plotted. so we could bug out and the last president and this president neither of them wanted to be involved overseas, they wanted to minimize that as much as possible, but if you pull out and you give the terrorists a
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place to plan, you're dealing with the same problem all over again. i think it's actually very interesting that the president has listened to his commanders and appears to understand what he's dealing with and is willing to go against a campaign promise when they have been so -- it's been such a big deal for this president to check things off the board in terms of promises delivered -- >> how he explains it, david, will matter. this is different than other things, april ryan, because he spent so much time over the last few years going on and on about what a mistake this was and it was a big deal, it was a big deal for bannon and now bannon is on the outside and he's going to be listening and it's important how the president changes this position tonight. if he just goes into it and says, well, here is what i've been told and here is what we're going to do i don't think he can ignore everything he's said before, can he? >> this president is so unpredictable, he will say one thing during the campaign but as president he changes his tune.
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but, chris, one thing we have to remember, we know that this president will bash former president obama and his efforts in afghanistan. we also have to remember, chris, that then president obama did diminish al qaeda in afghanistan, but right now afghanistan is still a place where it's a breeding ground for terrorism, for reconstituting, for having new people come in, possibly to wreak havoc somewhere in the world and maybe the united states. so president trump is actually right to think about and focus in on afghanistan, but the question is what is the motive? what is the motive for now? why now? >> one thing i would just add is as much as it is certainly going to take the tension away away from charlottesville which the president definitely needs politically, i think it's important that you're seeing mattis looking fairly satisfied with this. so if he sticks to the teleprompter, if he really does talk not just about troop
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numbers but a regional strategy which is important, you've seen spillover into central asia, why aren't we focusing on back stand, too. if mattis is satisfied with what the script is and he sticks to that script it could be a legitimate thing. the country does need questions as well as it's advantageous for the president to look presidential when a lot of people are telling him he really doesn't right now. >> i think the policy here, chris, is what's most important and the fact that he's doing this in a conventional way. you cannot have the country's support for military action if all you do is tweet. you need to lay out the stakes for them, explain why you're investing and give them a reason to follow you. obviously trump has been compromised in the past ten days, but he's still president, he still has a job to do, with he still have things to deal with overseas and the way he's choosing to address this -- we'll see what he says but at least for now this appears to be a good course of action. >> what about the backdrop of charlottesville, though? >> the backdrop is not pretty at
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all. and i'm thinking about the military action and these men, you know, possibly ramping up, putting more troops in and these men fighting for the rights of everyone in america when the president just a few weeks ago talked about it was everyone's fault. as these men go to -- possibly go to afghanistan, there will not be a military win, there will be fighting, there will be attempts to try to help the government there sustain and just support of the government and also try to stabilize the situation there, but charlottesville still hangs over the president's head. charlottesville is an albatross around this administration's neck. this was the breaking point for republicans, many who hadn't really spoken, to come out publicly against this president. this is a nation that is still hurting and we are wondering what he's going to say because' so unpredictable. >> it was charlottesville that allowed some people who hadn't spoken out publicly against the president or not as forcefully
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to begin doing so, and there was a new -- well, i don't know how new it is, but certainly people were talking for the first time publicly, more loudly, about the president's mental fitness. >> yeah. >> let me give you an example. jack gee spearer congresswoman tweeted out this, potus is showing signs of erratic behavior and mental instability that place the country in great danger. time to invoke the 25th amendment. that went further. >> right. that is definitely going further than people like bob corker who questioned trump's stability and competence, which are fighting words, and i think adam schiff questioned his cave ability as well. neither of them went so far as to say we should try to invoke the 25th amendment and force the president out of office. there is a question for democrats about how hard to play this and are you going to overplay your hand if you start to paint trump as somebody who is mentally unstable. there has been a debate about whether that's even fair to diagnose somebody from arm's length like that. certainly you're seeing this
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come out at all points of the political spectrum. corker has tried to work with the president before. the discussion is out there and it's happening. how far they take t i don't think there's enough support in the democratic pa ert to actually try to oust him from office over these impressiones. >> they couldn't do it alone anyway. they don't have the votes. >> there are a lot of people that want impeachment but certain leaders are saying don't touch it. stick with what we can control which is that the president doesn't look good right now and let him keep not looking good. >> panel, thank you very much. >> but there is a real -- >> go ahead, april. >> but there is a real question here. how many republicans really believe that he will be the candidate for 2020? it's not about 2018 for a lot of people anymore, it's about 2020 and that's a whole new story or a whole new story line we have to talk about later on. >> impossible to know. that is a lifetime away in this news cycle as is tomorrow. but thank you, guys, very much for all of the analysis.
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because of what happened before and all of the extension of what will happen after, tonight is a big deal. we're going to bring you live coverage of president trump's address to the snags tonight at 9:00 eastern, and right after it, 9:30 p.m., you will have a live town hall event with house speaker paul ryan, one of the people who has been conspicuo conspicuously absent from scrutiny of the president. jake tapper will be hosting that. >> with president trump's add depression tots nation tonight members of his own party are questioning his ability to lead. what about the president's moral authority? has that somehow been compromised? we have a debate for you next. where are we?
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remains compromised. his comments on tuesday that erased his positive comments on monday started to compromise that moral authority that we need the president to have for this nation to be the beacon of light to all mankind. >> joining us now to talk about this is cnn senior political commentator and former republican u.s. senator rick santorum and former democratic ohio state flared nina for row. do you think the president's moral authority has been compromised? >> if tim scott is out there that's serious. tim is a terrific man who has a pretty good barometer, pretty good feeling for these types of things and the fact that he has expressed that should cause concern to the president and to the white house and it just shows the imperative that this president, you know, get back on message, get back tonight obviously on afghanistan very
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important speech -- >> but -- sorry to interrupt you, senator, but what do you think? i mean, do you feel that the president has lost some credibility? >> well, obviously the firestorm from charlottesville has been probably more intense than anything we've seen and that obviously raises serious questions. the fact that he continues to sort of go through staff, there's a lot of instability there, i think people are -- people are very concerned about this president right now and he's got a window of opportunity to try to right the ship here, obviously tonight he's going to try to do that with afghanistan, he's also got some things he has to do when we get back -- when the senate and house get back in session, he's got a healthcare bill i know they're still working on trying to get something done there to pull that out of the fire. >> right. >> he's got to start having accomplishments, he has to start showing that he can govern and can bring people together to get things done. >> nina, what do you think? in terms of what senator tim scott said about the moral authority, the credibility to
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lead us through international crises like we will see on stage tonight? >> well, senator tim scott is absolutely right, alisyn. this is not just about filling the void with the other things on the president's to-do list. he has got to be unequivocal about being against white supremacy, neo nazi, kkk-inspired type demonstrations that we saw in charlottesville, virginia. he can't equivocate on it. senator scott also had a strong recommendation which i think the president should follow which is to sit down and talk to people who have endured this type of racial pain and bigotry in this country. it's not a lifetime ago. it's not people like congressman john lewis and others who lived through that are still here today. he can sit down and talk to them. it's also about cultural competency, the ability to learn and grow, the ability to understand your own culture and that of other folks and how they intersect and intertwine and what that means in america.
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and the president has not done that and he still -- i mean, i'm still holding out hope that he will do the right thing, i'm probably among very few democrats who do that, but in order for this country to be successful, in order for us to move forward this president has to understand that and not go backwards on that and also push policies that then lift people in this country. that is his moral imperative, that is his duty as the president of the united states of america to not just brush this kind of pain aside. this is real. the trauma that african-americans and other people of color, our native american sisters and brothers have faced in this country at the hands of bigotry and racism systemic racism and bigotry, not just what we saw in charlottesville was real. >> rick, do you think the president was brushing aside the pain that nina was talking about? >> look, the president clearly made a huge mistake last week in the way he address this had issue. there are -- there's only a few
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ways to go about resolving that, number one, you do what nina suggests which is go out and talk with people and then talk about that experience, but it's also to try to show that he can bring people together. this is -- you know, this is not just about what happened in charlottesville, this is a broader issue for the president. he has to show that he has the ability to coalesce and bring people together on a variety of different areas and having some successes would i think help in that regard. i don't mean to equate the two, but, look, the president has not had a whole lot of successes here in capitol hill and unless he starts to show that he can lead in that way -- people will take the president's mistake at its face value, but if it shows that he can't move from that point and actually be a productive president, that's going to have more longer term impact on him than last week's press conference. >> nina, let me read for you and
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everyone what congresswoman jackie speierer of california, democrat is saying. she thinks potus, the president, is showing signs of erratic behavior and mental instability that place the country in grave danger, time to invoke the 25th amendment. does that go too far? >> yeah, i think it does. i mean, unless that she -- i mean, we shouldn't play games with mental illness. many people either have family members, i do, or know someone who has a mental illness and so this is serious business. but if there is a real concern about the among of congress in both the senate and the house that this president is not mentally capable, then they need to have that conversation, a bipartisan conversation, but for democrats or for anybody to cavalierly use mental illness as some political football, it's wrong and it shouldn't be accepted. so a real threat, yes, have that debate, but to play political games with this is not acceptable. >> rick, go ahead.
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>> yeah, i would just say that all of this talk, whether it's from bob corker or whether it's from the congresswoman you just suggested, donald trump -- let's just be honest, donald trump really hasn't changed. the donald trump you're seeing is the donald trump you saw throughout the course of the campaign and frankly throughout the course of his presidency. i mean, this is what the country elected, this he elected someone who was dramatically politically incorrect and off the cuff and crude and a whole lot of other things that i know a lot of folks on both sides of the aisle are very uncomfortable with, but that's who he is, that's what we elected, that's what we knew we were electing. the idea that somehow or other we have now arrived at the fact that this is a problem, no, this is who donald trump is and whether you like it or not, obviously i think comes back to whether he is going to be successful in getting things done as president. that's what they thought was going to bring change to washington, stir things up, and
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the request he is, yes, he's stirring things up but is he getting anything done? >> it goes beyond effectiveness, it goes to embarrassment. there was a new nbc mar ris pole and asked people in the blue wall, these were of the states he wasn't expected to win, michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, does the president's behavior make you feel embarrassed and the results here are surprisingly consistent, nina. 64% michigan, 63% pennsylvania, 64% wisconsin all say yes. what do you think this means going forward? >> i mean, there is a fine line between having a mental illness and lacking the discipline necessary to be the president of the united states of america. if voters are having buyer's remorse, then voters will have another bite at this apple in 2020, but if the members of congress really do believe that there is something wrong with the president then they have to address that, but this cannot be used as a cavalier thing because
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so many people are suffering from mental illness in this country and it's unfair to them. >> my two cents is if he had passed a healthcare bill, on the verge of passing a tax bill, had we passed an infrastructure bill none of those polls would be showing what they are showing. >> thank you very much for the analysis. what the president didn't do any of those things that santorum is referring to and that's why tonight is another moment that is heavy with importance for the president. he has spent years, donald trump, saying the united states needs to get out of afghanistan. what will i say tonight? we will ask former director of national intelligence james clapper next. i make it easy to save $600 on car insurance,
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president trump is going to unveil his strategy on afghanistan in a prime time address to the nation tonight. trump has always said the u.s. should get out, but it doesn't seem that's what the president will announce tonight. joining us is james clapper, former director of national intelligence and cnn security analyst. good to have you, james. >> thank you. thanks for having me. >> mr. director, what do you think we're going to hear tonight from the president?
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do you think he's going to say that the united states is getting out like he has said all along during the campaign? >> well, no, i don't or at least i certainly hope he doesn't say we're getting out. apart from the tremendous blood and treasure we have invested in afghanistan is its great importance as a counterterrorism platform not only for afghanistan but for the region. if that's part of the strategy, which i think it has to be, that then requires that we be positioned in several locations in afghanistan to optimize intelligence collection. a lot of this has to do with warning for our diplomats and military people in kabul, the capital. and that in turn requires a protection force, it requires medical evacuation, it requires logistical support and so that will i think engender the numbers, the math on how many people will be needed. and the other major mission apart from the counterterrorism
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mission which i view not surprisingly as quite important as the train, advice and assist mission and it's how many members of the afghan military you're going to dee my sourforc. those would be the two key pillars we have to follow in afghanistan because of the regional implications for kournl terrorism platform as well as the train, advise and assist. i think the aspect will be whether there is any hybrid mix of contractors which in my experience are quite expensive. so that's my prediction, i don't have any inside baseball actual insight. >> steve bannon who is now on the outside but is credited for forming a lot of the president's ideas about what should happen in this issue was a big fan of privatizing the situation there. your reference is noted. let me ask you about a different situation. we just got a new report that
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the van driver that they're still looking for, this remaining suspect from the barcelona terror attack may have stolen a car, there may have been more deaths as a result of his exit. he is still on the run and they're widening the search. what do you make of this task? >> well, he's i guess the key question is where is he and where is he headed. i don't know, but my guess is that he will probably want to stay within areas that he's reasonably familiar with and where his language wouldn't stick out so much. having said that i have no direct clue. i'm sure both the spanish and the french particularly are on the lookout for this guy and i'm very hopeful they'll catch him, but my guess is he's still in spain. >> there's always a question
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about what is it worth in terms of to use the resources and risk further conflict with these -- you know, with a person who is on the run, especially when you have others involved in the same plot. we saw that after the bataclan attack in paris. why is he so important other than his obvious criminal role in driving the vehicle? >> well, that's the main thing, i think. that and, you know, if they do capture him alive prospects are they won't, but if they do whatever additional intelligence they can gain from him particularly the extent to which he received any outside direction. >> one more issue for you. there's a report in the "usa today" that the secret service is strained budge tear i will that they've paid hundreds of agents more than they he expected to because of overtime, because of all the travel, all the different presidential residences all the different security that is required. what is your guidance on these
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types of expenditures? >> well, i think that's -- it's basically mandatory that those expenditures be provided and i think this is -- this is kind of on the congress first to make sure the secret service is properly sized for the mission they now have, which is much larger, much more complex probably than any other president they have had to protect and i certainly think if any secret service agents are owed back pay or any of that sort of thing that needs to be accounted for. so i think it's really on the congress to ensure that there is sufficient funding for the secret service. i might mention that we saw this problem coming during the last administration, even during the transition phase, just because of the multiple locations where the president would be engaged. just the challenge of protecting
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trump tower, that we saw issues there with sufficient funding for the secret service back then. >> there's going to be talk tonight about the backdrop of this, the presidential mandate, the use of the bully pulpit, addressing the american people but it's always within a given context. after the week that the president had last week, the way the country was wounded, the ideas of his moral standing, how does that play into what happens tonight? >> well, i think there is a lot of pressure on him and hopefully we'll see the teleprompter president trump tonight. i thought his presidency was seriously, seriously wounded by his unglued press conference there at trump tower and his basically abdication i think of moral leadership. i can't help but think about the
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impact on my former colleagues in the intelligence community and the many thousands of minority employees and how they must have felt with the ambiguity and a.m. by lens of the president when he had an opportunity and obligation to take a moral stand and he didn't. so i think that places even greater focus and emphasis on not only what he says tonight but how he says it. >> and he drew an equivalency with a group that people in your business spend a lot of time combating, violent right wing extremists. james clapper, thank you very much. appreciate your perspective as always. >> thanks, chris, for having me. we've waited 99 years to see an eclipse like this, but will the weather where you are cooperate? all of that's next. my experience with usaa has been excellent.
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threats as the u.s. and south korea begin their annual joint military drills involving nearly 18,000 u.s. troops. pyongyang says the ten-day drill is pouring gas on the fire. believing the two countries are gearing up for an invasion. u.s. military officials describe the drills as purely defensive. the u.s. embassy in russia says it will temporarily suspend issuing non-immigrant visas in moscow for eight days. this goes into effect wednesday, lasts until september 1st. the action comes after russia ordered the u.s. to cut its embassy and consulate staff in half in retaliation for new sanctions approved by the u.s. congress. russia's foreign minister says his minister will not react by taking it out on u.s. citizens. the eclipse of the century is just hours away, but some spots are expecting to see a total eclipse. they might not get the sight that they're hoping for. cnn's stephanie elam is live in st. joseph, missouri, with more.
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are you in the path of totality? >> reporter: i like that voice, chris. yes, i am in the path of totality. now, will we be able to totally see it? that is the big question. if you look behind me we totally have clouds right now, it's supposed to get more cloudy later on here in the kansas city area. we will keep our eyes on t as you can also see that is not deterring the expected 15,000 people who are expected to come to this one airfield where we are, cars are already starting to come in, we see they're making their way here. this whole eclipse will be about two hours over the united states starting in oregon around 10:00 a.m. pacific time and ending around 3:00 p.m. eastern time today. this group behind me traveled here from australia to be here to witness the eclipse. that's how much excitement there is. people planning so long. we saw some people taking off yesterday to go to illinois because they are afraid that the eclipse may not be seen here, but i am told even in a cloudy day it's still spectacular to
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see what happens as it gets so dark and also because it temperature may change, all of these things have people very excited here in the kansas city area we are looking at about 1:00 right after 1:00 and then we will have two minutes and 38 seconds of totality here. so lots of excitement about how that's going to turn out. and maybe, alisyn, maybe the clouds will play along with us and let us see it from here. >> very, very cool. we hope that the clouds clear and you can see the stars. that's another crazy moment during the middle of the day. thanks so much for that report. we'll check back. so the tributes are pouring in for comedy legend jerry lewis. dig can a vit will remember the laughs and the serious side of jerry lewis and he's here next. ? a basketball costs $14. what's team spirit worth? (cheers) what's it worth to talk to your mom?
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lewis entourage, on the double. >> i'm laughing already. >> because that's what he made us do. >> jerry lewis leaves behind an incredible legacy of laughs. the comedian passed away this weekend at 91 years old. lewis raised nearly $2.5 billion to fight muscular dystrophy. comedy legend dick cabot, great to see you. share your memories of jerry lewis with us. >> i'm sorry, the audio is not good. >> what did you think of jerry lewis? can you hear us, dick? >> yeah, i heard that. i had a long history with jerry lewis. i first met him, oh, when he
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took over "the tonight show" actually for two weeks when johnny carson was still doing it. and he was smashingly off and onny every night for two weeks. and he was just -- killed everybody. he couldn't do anything wrong. and i remember it took me back to when i was a kid. and he first knocked me out. i liked him from the moment i first met him, actually. that was in my office at "the tonight show." he came in to me, a total stranger. and he talked so intelligently and so interestingly about his time with dean martin. that material all later became a book. and he was very much like an assistant professor or something. very articulate, not trying to
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be funny. and i thought this cannot be the same man who made me spit a mouthful of popcorn on the back of the neck of somebody in the theater years ago when i first saw him in nebraska. >> we heard that jerry could be serious. often very serious off camera, obviously the side that we didn't see, because he had all of these other life goals that he wanted. he wasn't just, you know, a slapstick, funny comedian. i want to play this moment where you were interviewing him on your show and have you explain this. pause for a minute and watch this. this is from 1973. >> you remember me at all? >> yeah. i stepped on you a couple of times. >> no. >> of course i remember you. >> you never stepped on me. >> we had some marvelous, marvelous times. we had a difficult time. to have the marvelous times we have had through that difficult time, you don't forget that easily. >> both marvelous and difficult.
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>> yeah, yeah. >> dick, do you know what he was referring to, that you had marvelous and difficult times together? >> say again? >> he was saying that you had marvelous and difficult times together. is there a backstory? >> well, yes. jerry, because of this gigantic talent that he had, the gods have played with him, it seems, over the years. they first gave him just about every disease you can have and still survive in time to get the next one. he was a magnificent manager of his own life and his own health. he came back and back from things that would have, as he put it, killed an ordinary man. i don't know if there's ever been anybody who has such a -- who had a bigger, bigger talent
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and able to do so many damn things, including camera things that he worked out himself and revolutionized parts of the camera and film. >> dick, why do you think he was so tied to muscular dystrophy? why did it matter so much to him? i covered for years this kid named maddy stepanec. jerry made him an ambassador of the cause. that seemed to be his true passion. what was it that drew him to it, do you know? >> i don't know. it might have been guilt over the fact that he had gone from making $50 a week with dean in clubs to $5,000 a week and then gone on from there to such spectacular financial success. he may have felt i've got to
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give something back. i don't know. also, of course, let's not forget it allowed us to see him for hours, often hilarious. you just looked forward to the muscular dystrophy telethon for weeks. and those two words, muscular dystrophy, put them on the map. i never heard of it before, i have to confess. >> he raised $2.5 billion. we should just let people know that all of his telethons became such a part of the cultural fabric. but $2.5 billion for the disease. it's just so remarkable. and, dick, just one -- >> it's a hefty piece -- >> one more thing to end on. he had that long collaboration with dean martin and then they had sort of a breakup when jerry wanted to go his own way. and during a telethon, frank sinatra surprised him. we'll end on this poignant
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moment when frank sinatra says he would like to bring out a friend. >> i have a friend who loves what you do every year and just wanted to come out. would you send my friend out, please? where is he? would you send him out here? [ cheers and applause ] >> that is such a beautiful moment, dick. do you have any last thoughts? >> that was stunning. i remember i was lucky enough to get to see that live. an interesting little sideline about jerry. he would have loved to have had an education. and we would talk about that. he had done pretty well. and one time i used a word that he didn't know and he made me explain it. and then he took out a little
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notebook that he kept because he liked to improve his vocabulary and wrote it in. it was an interesting sideline. have you ever seen a hilarious photograph, the great writer kept it on his wall, chessboard in the middle, jerry on one side in deep concentration at the chess board and in deep concentration at the chess board opposite him is a chimp. and they look like they parallel each other. they look like each other. it's a masterpiece of instant comic art. >> that's great. dick cavett, thank you very much for sharing all your remembrances this morning with us of jerry lewis. thank you for being here. >> well, you know, i'm always yours. >> we do know that and we appreciate it. thank you very much, dick. we'll see you soon.
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