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welcome to "inside politics." i'm jake tapper. john king is taking a well deserved vacation. president donald trump will speak to an american legion convention in nevada, we'll bring that to you live when it happens. are we going to get more of what we saw last night in phoenix, 77 minutes of unrestrained, unadulterated, occasionally unhinged donald trump, untethered to the truth and unshaken, driving a wedge into his own party. the president spent some time during his speech attacking the media. >> i'm doing this morning anything else, because you know where my heart is, okay?
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i'm really doing this to show you how damned dishonest these people are. >> the president's ride or die defenders gave his rally rave reviews, but one former intelligence chief says the nation needs to be concerned. >> i really question his ability to -- his fitness to be in this office. i worry about frankly, the access to the nuclear codes. plus, do you feel that? that's washington, d.c. bracing over the president's latest demand, money, for his big beautiful wall on the southern border, money he says he needs now, or he will bring the government to a stand still. and why? seriously, why? the president's relitigating the charlottesville response, that response that pushed many republicans to question his c p
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competence. and in doing so, he completely glossed over where he gave hope to the alt-right, the white supremacists looking for an ally in the president. omitting how he blamed many sides for the violence and hatred that exploded as those hatemongers marched on a college town making anti-semitic and racist chances. >> i hit them with neo-nazi, i got the white supremacists, kkk, we have kkk, i got them all. so they're having a hard time, so what did they say, right? it should have been sooner, he's a racist. it should have been sooner, okay. >> with us to share their reporting and their insights we have julie davis of the "new york times", the wall street journal's michael bender and mary catherine ham of the
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federalist. the felt like 2016, all but hearing the chants of lock her up. calls for unity. loyalty to our nation demands loyalty to one another. a sentiment we should all take to heart. but in the intervening minutes he focussed very little on the divide in the country and even within the president's own political party. trump rocked wildly, rift after rift, all intended for one audience, his base. >> it says i love all of the people of our country. i didn't say i love you because you're black, or i love you because you're white or i love you because you're japan. all week they're talking about the massive crowds that are going to be outside, where are they? they show up in the helmets and the black masks and they've got clubbed and everything.
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a antifa. it's time to challenge the crooked media's deceptions. and those cameras are going off, wow. why don't you just fold them up and take them home. do the people in this room like sheriff joe? one vote away, i will not mention any names. very presidential, isn't it? very presidential. >> the performance left some rattled. >> i found this down right scary and disturbing. i really question his ability to -- his fitness to be in this office and i also am beginning to wonder about his motivation for it. how much longer does the country
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ha have, to borrow a phrase, endure this nightmare? >> that is some pretty stark language, james clapper, a retired general who served as director of national intelligence for president obama. not giving up to partisan politics and fairly sober. and it also comes after senator bob corker, questioning trump's competency and ability to do this job. >> it's true, and i do think that president trump the more he allows himself all these rifts to go out and vent himself. he said you heard what i said, they're targeting me. it wasn't about racism or any of that. he barely mentioned the woman who died in charlottesville. i think the more people see this, and this includes
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republicans and democrats and people in the national security realm, i think on all sides, the more people are worried that this president is not going to be able to salvage any part of a functional presidency. and we know mitch mcconnell has talked about that, and i think that the more people are willing to say that publicly, the more we're going to hear it. >> i think we have reached a tipping point where americans are starting to give voice to this. >> they not only stuck by this, but trump won the nomination with one endorsement from his own party inside the senate. he got to where he is without help from basically any republican senators. and i think the end of that, julia's point that was really important, this speech last night was not for the james clappers of the world. he's lost democrats. he's all but lost republicans and inside the white house, there's a real fear that he's on the verge of losing his own
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base. so if he's going to back to republic republicans, he's going to stop this need for a free for all. >> maybe this wasn't such a bad idea and it's a picture of president obama speaking at a classroom with two teleprompters there, kind of funny about how controlled president obama was with the joke being, maybe, sticking to telepromters not such a horrible idea for presidents. >> all the grief that president obama got for sticking to prompter. and now donald trump is getting praise when he sticks to prompter. yesterday's rally, as michael pointed out, it was all about his base, the eight out of ten republicans who do still support him. the republican voter right now, who's out on the streets, who is
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energized is not driven by convictions about the proper amount of government and it's anger about immigration, it's anger about trade. anger at the so-called globalists who they believe are supporting the diversification of america, which they think is harming their economic prospects. that is the fuel that is driving this party right now and i think the republican members of congress who came up under president reagan, they're supporting -- >> is the hatred of the media and hatred of elites more motivating to the republican base, or should i say the trump base, than is trade, for example? >> i think you can see it in the breakdown of that speech, that actually little of it was about immigration, or as you pit it native issues and trade and a lot of it is about the media. and there will be be a reacce re
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autd yechx audience and many people don't -- that being said, the president's job is not to be a media critic. his can make these points and he can give a speech to his base, which might be useful, if he talks about how he plans to pass an agenda. he did talk about health care, he did talk about winning those few votes that he needs. >> the president seemed to throw a 2,000-mile long -- if congress does not fund the border wall. congress and speaker ryan want to move on to tax reform. others say, stop, pay attention to the best. laura ingram wrote last night, listen to the reaction, build the wall, are you listening?
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is this for republicans to fund the border wall, or you need to get democrats in order to pass that resolution, is it just kind of a wasted effort? >> i think republican leaders in congress understand that this is not going to be an issue for them. and a shutdown, there is never a winner, that there would be a government shutdown with the majority republican in the house, if they can't even keep the government running, whatever issue, whether it's the wall or anything else, that's not going to be good for them. if it's a question for donald trump, where he may be warming up his base, but that's a separate one. donald trump needs a legislative win, he needs tax reform to be able to hatch. and if they're locked in this fight over keeping the government open and the wall, it's going to be very difficult to do. it's going to be difficult to do anyway, it's going to be almost
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impossible if they're grappling over these other issues. >> president trump also talking about last night, how he might pardon sheriff arpaio. a winning issue for him? >> it's a winning issue within the base. >> it shows a pattern. >> and the white house should be glad that trump couldn't pull out of his pocket former law men convicted of criminal contempt. that was debated. he definitely wanted to do that on stage, it would have been great television, it's hard to understand why -- what the line here is. as raw of a performance that was last night directed really at his own base, to me a live pardoning of arpaio would have fit right into that. >> this is starting to feel a lot like 2013 before the fight
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over obama cacare led to a government shutdown. meanwhile you need eight democratic senators to get anything through, there's a fill b buster there and they don't have those votes, less than 10% of democrats favor a border wall. trying to set the record straight, so to speak, on how we reported his charlottesville response, of course the problem is what he left out. stay with us.
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defiant and in denial. president trump used his big rally in phoenix to read
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verbatim almost to his responses to charlottesville. there were a few key words that were missing and they happened to be the ones that caused all the outrage in the first place. the people who were at the rally did not hear him blame the hate and silence. what they heard was a president trying to rewrite history. for context, here's what the president said last night and what he said 10 days earlier. >> here's what i said on saturday, we're closely following the terrible events unfolding in charlottesville, virginia. this is me thinking, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violent. that's me speaking on saturday. >> we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious
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display of hatrehatred, bigotry violence on many sides, on many sides, this has been going on for a long time in our country. >> kind of an important omission. this morning the president tweeting, last night i read the things from my speech that the fake news media didn't cover fairly. if he believes what he said on many sides, on many sides and there were fine people marching alongside the klan and the nazis, and you're not a spokesperson for mr. trump, but why the attempt to rewrite history? >> because he's ticked off at the way it was covered and he's trying to say, well, look, i did say all these things, here's the problem, he did say many things on many sides. >> on many sides. >> this is a characteristic of donald trump, the question is
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whether what he says is on the good side of the ledger, totally eclipses, oops, everything he said on the bad side, right? he gives the first statement and a different, and i think more thorough statement later and that was eclipsed by the protest, which the media should be covering quietly. that wipes out all the things he said about racism being evil. and you have to understand that dynamic and then we have the president's afghanistan speech. so he has a point on whether he's being treated fairly all the time. but he can, when he performs well, get some credit and then the rally, which in many ways eclipses what happened with the afghanistan speech. and this is going to be a pattern over and over and over again as it has been until now. >> i think it's simpler than that. i think he knows attacking the media is going to get a lot of applause, and rallies up the base, this is something that the
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media has covered pretty extensively and for good reason. >> if you're a twitter follower of donald trump and a big supporter of his. you're going to look at his twitter feed and pay more attention to that than anything that's said here or anyone else. and he is to his people saying, this is ma you should care about. that is what his core supporters really do care about. and he doesn't see anything wrong with any of the subsequent sa statements he made. and even if he sticks to the prompter, he doesn't like that donald trump. he likes being himself and he knows his supporters like him when he's being himself. and that's basically the point
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here. >> some repoof his supporters a i'm not saying most, but some of his supporters are horrific, horrific people. trump has never denounced the alt-right, nor will he, #ariz a #arizonatrumprally. >> you can see what you want to see in donald trump. particularly with--it does make it hard for donald trump to say that this is all on the media for mischaracterizing his version of events, mischaracterizing his comments when that seems to be how the alt-right and the white nationalists are interpreting it. this is also politics, right? this is not new. fact checking didn't start under
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the trump presidency. but politicians on both sides of the aisle, sitting members of congress, you pick your facts that make your best argument, the difference a lot of times is how much credibility you have in order to sort of pick and choose what facts you want to use. >> he also has a talent for ending up actually where on some of these issues the american people end up. which is to say when it comes to who to blame for political violence, the recent polling shows it's split, like 40% sort of agree with him. and even among democrats that is the case, they don't believe it is just one group of people and it is delusional nonsense that there was not some kind of political violence in this. it secrets a situation where a lot of america goes, that's not what i have seen in real life. but that's where he ends up
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getting credit from folks. >> that tweet you read, jake, is precisely the problem, because he's sending signals while he's technically checking the box and condemning it. that signal was the first thing he said, the many sides thing, then he got a lot of criticism for that and then he ended up saying i condemnee neo-nazis and white supremacists. i think people are asking does he really condemn it or is he checking the box that he disagrees with all of these forces. >> coming up next, if the president hopes to push his agenda through congress, he needs a whole lot of help from the republican party, so why is he not speaking about that? coming up after this.
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there's a new cold war between president trump and mitch mcconnell. mcconnell has privately expressed uncertainty over whether it may be too late to save the trump presidency now. >> this has always been a very uneasy alliance. these guys couldn't be more different stylistically. but one thing in particular that has irked the president. he went after mitch mcconnell on an august 9 phone call, saying he wanted the majority leader to
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do more to protect him from these investigations that are happening on capitol hill, but the russia sanctions bill that congress overwhelmingly passed and the president reluctantly signed into law, i'm told that the president erupted about that issue, even dropped obscenities while speaking to mitch mcconnell. he needs mitch mcconnell during this fall session, to keep the government open, even though that trump is trying to raise the debt ceiling, they're going to get back on speaking terms, they have not spoken the two weeks, largely because of this tension over the russia issue, jake. >> mike, i'm kind of surprised, i have to say, leader mcconnell, during the campaign was far less out there than, say, speaker ryan was, speaker ryan withholding his endorsement for a month, expressing more serious reservations, mcconnell much more quiet on the subject, and
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yet this relationship is really is worse one between the two. >> mcconnell was critical of trump during the campaign, but in his own very dry, subtle way, that the white house picked up on, but trump has a certain president for mcconnell. he's an age peer, he's roughly the same age, he had a long record of accomplishments, trump admired his political acumen. he punched through gorsuch, which is one of the main accomplishments of this administration. but the moment that, you know, he comes up short for trump, it's, you know, it turns into this. and this relationship has been one of the more fascinating ones to watch, mcconnell is one who brings in notes of a conversation, has a checklist of what he wants to be on the
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agenda. and he has had to wait out trump on the phone, while he kinds of winds out news of the day, talk about the office, while mcconnell sits there quietly on the phone waiting to get back to the bill. >> i think it's very telling that the russia probe, really according to manu's reporting seems to be the real source of the intention. although trump wanted to repeal and replace obamacare, alienating republican senators as he did. but wanting to be more protected. >> if you look at how donald trump wept after jeff sessions, his own attorney general, who was supportive of him during the campaign and very outspokenly so, he clearly feels like this is a responsibility of a senator majority leader, you're a republican, you should be protecting me, i'm the
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president. i think what pushed it to the fore, in addition to a number of things, including the failure that the, you know, the latest failure of the health care effort, was mitch mcconnell making a speech in mississippi saying he didn't really understand how this process worked and that he was setting expectations that were impossible to meet and donald trump does not like to hear that. he likes to hear, i asked you to get this bill, you get me this bill, i need you to defend me on the russia investigation and you're going to do that. and those things together have made it impossible for him to feel like he can work with mitch mcconnell even though he has to. >> take a look at what he and r other members of the republican caucus have stayed in the past two weeks. >> of course our new president has not been in this line of work before and i think had excessive expectations about how quickly things happen.
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in the democratic process. >> the president has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability nor some of the competence that he needs to demonstrate in order to be successful. >> we have got to get away from calling our opponents losers or clowns, things that make it difficult to sit down and work with them. >> it's far too early to tell now, there's a long ways between now and that point. >> do you think he will end up the party's nominee in 2020? >> it's too difficult to say. >> too difficult to say that donald trump will be the republican nominee in 2020. >> republicans in congress deserve a lot of blame for not having pushed these things. to the point about ryan versus mcconnell, i think ryan showed him something on health care, he was surprised that he was able to get that there, he was like okay, that's a mark in your
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column. that's a very big issue, that being said, he makes it very hard to work with him. sort of in back rooms and having these discussions. i have said this many times and i apologize for repeating it. the preside the. >> the division, i think is not between conservatives and moderates as it has been traditionally, it's been between pluralists and nativists.
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allegations that he was a spy. >> hi, mr. ambassador, did you discuss sanctions with any members of the trump team when you were in the united states? >> with your respect, i'm here to talk to russian people. >> reporter: did you discuss opening secret channels with the kremlin with jared kushner, for instance? >> i have said many times that we do not discuss the substance of our discussions with our american interlocinterlockutors. >> reporter: that was a long convoluted story, it takes 15
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hours to get here from moscow own on a train. the local administration they basically lied to us. they said he eat not here, he's in a village 3 1/2, four hours' drive from here, but we waited in this central location where he was meant to be giving a press conference and we had an opportunity to ---asked him about those allegations of collusion, and also asked him about that meeting in may with president trump alongside the russian foreign minute stister. when you met donald trump the president, were you surprised when he disclosed credit information to you about syria? >> i don't think there was anything secret disclosed in that meeting. >> what about this allegation that you're a spy master, a spy recruiter. did you recruit any members of
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the donald trump administration. >> you should be ashamed, because cnn is the company that keeps on pointing to this allegation. it's nonsense. >> reporter: but it's u.s. security officials, intelligence officials that made it, of course. >> i have heard that said, and also former times when i was a diplomat. there was no reason to divulge that he knew what he said. >> reporter: what's your prediction for the future of u.s.-russia relations skm. >> i think it's going to be difficult. and it's not because of us, it's because of the u.s. political dynamics, the anti-russian law certainly isn't going to help russian-american discussions. >> reporter: all right so it was interesting to get some face
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time from sergey kislayak, he's not an ambassador anymore, but he was definitely following all of the kremlin's lines on all the answers to those questions, jake. >> let's get back to the panel here. of course we wouldn't expect a spy master to admit to being one. but u.s. intelligence sources do say that kislayak was a spy and not only that, an excellent one and a spy recruiter. >> he was playing -- i think when you look at the two broader aims that intelligence officials believe that putin had, one was to achieve political chaos inside america, he as achieved that, but to have russian sanctions removed. i would love to look inside putin's mind right now and see how he really feels about that.
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>> mary catherine, we heard from manu's reporting that one of the things president donald trump is mad about when it comes to mitch mcconnell and the senate, is that one of their big signature achievements is a bill that ties his hands when it comes to russian sanctions. >> this is something that trump brings on himself by making it seems as if he needs his hands tied. and also his public statements about collusion, which is to say, if you're not hiding something, you look like you' ' hiding something and then there's a black email. there's things i have no problem with as a right leaning person because he was acting as if he needed his hands tied. >> one other thing that republicans have said to the president about the russian probe is if stoppabli
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stop acting like you're guilty. >> and that's one of the reasons that the senate took that action, is they needed to distinguish themselves from trump in that he has seemed to cozy up to putin, and he has pushed back in a strange way over some of the collusion allegations that makes him look like he had something to hide. they needed to take that vote, and mitch mcconnell needed to take that vote, so that republicans and democrats can say no, we are not friends with russia and maybe there's some undisclosed relationship with the kremlin and the president. republicans on the house side probably did more in trump's mind to try to protect him from that. but there's no really rolling that back, because there was a sense that they needed to go on the record if the president wasn't going to. >> and a lot of the russia hawks are in the senate and also hardcore in particular.
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>> it wasn't just mitch mcconnell, he went after jeff sessions for not protecting him enough in the russia probe. i think these figures, these republicans and people in his administration, their job is to protect him and if you're mcconnell or you're sessions, you realize that you live in a constitutional republic and your duty is not just to the man, it's to the country. >> we have evidence that there was a willingness to commit collusion, even though collusion isn't in itself a crime, that whole email scandal that i guess has been blown away and forgotten about except not by bob mueller is the president's son, and campaign chairman and son-in-law, being told by the russians that the kremlin had dirt on hillary clinton. >> it's been a pretty news packed last week and a half or so, i'm sure we'll hear more about that soon.
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unfortunate unfortunately, kislayak didn't give us his version or any insights there. it was interesting to watch his back and forth. i thought it was most sort of telling that he's upset about the sanctions bill. he's upset about the sanctions bill. trump's upset about the sanctions bill. and i can't imagine mitch mcconnell is happy to be at this point heading into the midterms, having passed no other legislation, other than a sanctions bill that handcuffs his own president. >> in north korea, it seems that kim jong-un is starting to respect the united states. >> kim jong-un, i respect the fact that i believe he is starting to respect us. i respect that fact very much. respect that fastball. -- fact. and maybe, probably not, but maybe something positive can come about. they won't tell you that. but maybe something positive can come about.
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>> maybe something positive can come from that. i just told them that. reporter ben jacobs tweeting, after president donald trump said that, pretty sure president trump has been nicer to kim jong-un than john mccain tonight. and again, that fittings in with what we have been discussing, if the president feels like you  might like and respect him, h s e's inclined to say nice things about you, even if it's kim jong-un rather than john mccain. >> he's gotten this sort of legal of deference from him. kislayak going after the media and going after cnn. >> fake nudeews. coming up, hillary clinton talks about her debate with donald trump. she said she considered saying, back up, you creep. more from her book about the campaign knicks.
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we're now getting some sense of what might be inside hillary clinton's new book as it's out next month. at one point she describes an awkward moment during the second debate when she felt that donald trump was invading her space. >> this is not okay, i thought, it was the second presidential debate and donald trump was looming behind me. two days before, the world had heard him brag about women. he was following me, staring at me, making faces, it was incredibly uncomfortable. he was literally breathing down my neck. my skin crawled. it was one of those moments where you wish you could hit
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pause and ask everyone watching, well, what would you do? do you stay calm, keep smiling and carry on as if he weren't repeatedly invading your space, or do you look him in the eye, and clearly say, back up, you creep, get away from me. >> she was basically standing near his lectern. then candidate donald trump told a different stir story. here's what he said a few days after the debate. >> i was standing at my lectern, and all of a sudden she walks right in front of me. then the next day, it was i was in her space, i was in my chair, near my lectern. >> one of the things you
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practice for when you practice for a debate is where you're going to stand, and how in both in words and in physical demeanor you're going to try to outwit or put off balance your opponent during a debate. >> i saw that moment during the debate, and it was an awkward moment, and it is a little strange that out of all the moments of the campaign, this is the one she would focus on. if it went through her mind to say back off, you creep. >> there's a fancy word for this, where you think of a come back a year later. >> the jerk story? >> this is what she did.
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and i'm not surprised that trump acted that way on the stage, i don't think it was quite as dire as she describes it. and i'm sort of surprised that this, like you said, is the excerpt. it is something that happened, it's not the most exciting thing. >> and there's this whole russia probe and we know that trump claimed director comey a bit for the excerpt. >> there was a poll among counties that donald trump whereon. among those counties, hillary clinton's favorability, even now, eight months after the election was 13% or 14%. bernie sanders in that same poll was in the 40s. people just didn't like her, we have the election results that we do, there's a strong art to be made that clinton lost this just as much as trump won it. >> i'll see you back here at 4:00 p.m. for "the lead. see you in a little bit.
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hello, i'm wolf blitzer, it's 10:00 a.m. in reno, nevada, 1:00 p.m. here in washington. 8:00 p.m. in washington. in just a few hours, donald trump will give a speech in nevada. which trump will show up, will he stick to a teleprompter, or will he devofl into the man we saw in phoenix last night, delivering this campaign rally type of speech. it was a 77-minute rant, where the president was at times

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