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. we saw two different displays, one trump using the teleprompter. the night before we saw the real trump. >> we are defined by the love that fills our hearts. >> i hit them with neo-nazi. i hit them with everything. >> so what did they say, right? it should have been sooner! >> i don't think most people want to see a government shutdown, ourselves included. >> president trump has sent a good message to the congress. >> if he's going to continue to criticize the republican leaders, he's not going to get very much done. >> who won the massive powerball jackpot? >> this person who won may or
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may not have known that they have just become a millionaire. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning everyone. welcome to your "new day." president trump's poxes giving supporters and critics whiplash. here are this morning's med-lines in major papers. they say three personas in three speeches but the same president. another reads different day, different crowd, different trump. the president swinging between uniting and dividing the country as the president watch the president continue to battle senate majority leader mitch mcconnell and other gop senators. >> we have two reporting exclusives. congressional investigators have uncovered another e-mail from a top trump aide. this one revealing another attempt to set up a meeting with russian president vladimir putin. cnn also tracked down russia's former top diplomat in the u.s. and pressed him about contacts with the trump campaign. so let's get after all of it.
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we'll start with cnn's suzanne malveaux live at the white house. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, chris. president trump again starkly displaying how he can be very different on and off script, delivering a national speech of unity following the fiery campaign rally. this is leaving some members of congress to question whether or not they can do business with this president as they get ready to go back to work. one day after delivering an angry and divisive speech at a campaign rally. >> they're bad people, and i really think they don't like our country. they're trying to take away our tul tour, take away our history. >> reporter: president trump delivering a different tone when reading the teleprompter. >> it's time to heal the wounds that divide us and seek a new unity based on the common values that unite us. >> reporter: the president's
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speech prompting this. >> he'll make a scripted teleprompter speech which is good and turn around and negate it by unbridled, unleashed, unchaperoned trump. that to me that pattern is very distushling. >> reporter: it comes as a new national poll saying '62% of americans think the president is dividing the country and 59% say his behavior encourages white supremacist groups. the president's riff with members of his own party growing in the of a math of tuesday's unhinged rally. >> believe me, if we have to close down the government, we'll build that wall. >> house speaker ryan responding. >> i don't think a government shutdown is necessary and i don't think most people want to see a government shutdown, ourselves including. >> reporter: president trump reiterating his claim that republicans are wasting time if they don't get rid of the
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filibuster rule, an idea mitch mcconnell has already rejected. mcconnell releasing a statement insisting he and mr. trump are committed to advancing our shared agenda together, amid reports that the relationship is rapidly deteriorating and they haven't spoken in weeks. this as cnn learns the president has begun efforts to inseat one of his top critics, huddling with challengers to jeff flake before taking the stage tuesday night. >> nobody wants me to talk about your other senator who is work on borders, weak on krooim. >> reporter: politico reporting president trump called senator tom tillis earlier this month to discuss a bill that tillis had designed to protect special counsel robert mueller from being fired. in a separate phone call in july, the president expressed frustration with the russia
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sanctions bill, voicing his concerns about the president's temperament weeks later. >> the president has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability, nor some of the confidence he needs to demonstrate in order to be successful. >> president trump today meeting behind closed doors with director of office and management budget nick mulvaney expectied to be a fierce debate over raising the debt ceiling. also reporting the president is ready to roll out the military ban on transgender individuals. joining us is cnn political analyst maggie haberman, white house correspondent for "the new york times." maggie, isn't the questianswer question of which trump is answered by the president, when he said they don't want me to say. when he's on the teleprompter --
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obviously tied to it. lucky if he can move his head from panel to panel, he's reading someone else's words. when he is there in front of people, he's telling you what is in his heart and how he feels. the divisiveness is who he is. >> i think -- look, i think a couple of things. i think he has a formula that he loves doing in front of the crowds. one of the interesting things about his address on afghanistan, it did not take place at an oval office desk, which some aides wanted him to do. instead it took place with hundreds of troops surrounding him. he loves a crowd and feeds off it. we saw this throughout the campaign. the tighter aides try to push restrictions on him, the more he rebels against them. the problem is i don't know what's in his heart, chris. it can't speak to this. but certainly what he is willing to say is very alarming to a lot of people. what you saw him do at the rally, i would say that's the most intense we've seen since he became president. we saw some pretty caustic -- >> you mean tuesday night where
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he was going after the media, people said it was really o -- some people described it as unhinged. it was heated. >> it was intense and certainly a return to the us and them language that we saw throughout the campaign, to your point about being a divider. it was such a drawing contrast, we were told by the white house that this was going to be a unity focus. you saw that in the speakers, including the vice president and the hud secretary, who preceded the president. they all talked about unity. they all said that's what was in his heart and he took the remarks and ripped them up. the crowd loves it. then there's a next day where you have to start over as president again. it looks different from any candidate. >> maggie, you have had such stellar reporting throughout this and behind the scenes. if his aides want him to be teleprompter trump and he rips this up and becoming rally
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trump, then what happens? >> they are measuring levels of success i think differently than sought of his critics are and some people outside the white house is certainly some people in congress are. a bunch of white house aids i spoke to yesterday when i said what is the reaction to this, their response was essentially we know how much worse it could have been. you're hearing that increasingly on a number of topics. whatever you're seeing publicly is bad. there's all sorts of things that we kill internally. yes, this is not perhaps presidential but could have been worse. it is frustrating to them. it is a sense of groundhog day. it is also really at odds with what you're seeing john kelly, the new white house chief of staff, putting in place in terms of a more controlled system. again, as you know, we saw this repeatedly during the campaign. there is a lather, rinse, repeat quality. we are told he's going to give a prompter speech. to their credit, they don't really do that anymore. they don't really advertise these things as, this is going to be some new version of president trump. you do see people reacting that way sometimes in the media when
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he does a prompter speech. very little white house buildup ahead of his afghanistan remarks. there was very little white house buildup ahead of this rally in arizona. and i think it is because they have realized they're just setting themselves up. >> what is the elg foo about the war against his own, going after the party, going after the electeds. is there a strategy at play or is this just another manifestation of the president going against those who he believes are against him? >> it's a couple of things. i think there's a belief -- it is understandable that the president of the party that is controlling congress, you have this rare moment that he is the head of the party and that people should be a little more fear. of what he says. the problem is that people are not after repeated threats. he made threats that turned out to be sort of empty in terms of his ability to muscle people in congress in one direction or the other. some of this is certainly feel-good. some of this is enemy of my enemy is my friend. he gets encouraged by
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particularly the house freedom caucus members who want to see paul ryan targeted. that is not necessarily the same aim that the white house has, particularly as we are going into the debt ceiling negotiations, particularly as you're talking about tax reform. some of this is intentional, but he tends to take it a little far, not everybody in the white house agrees with the idea that he should be advertising a potential shutdown. >> new quinnipiac polling interesting to look at this morning. one of the questions they asked was, do you consider president trump level-headed? out of the total, 68% said no. 29% said yes. in independents, it's interesting how it breaks down. 70% of independents said no, 26% said yes. obviously he needs independence in the future. but you know the president as well as any reporter. he likes to be liked. so do they keep these polls from him? what does he think about his polling lately? >> they can't keep televisions
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from him. even if they're keeping materials from him, they can't really keep what he's seeing -- they're not with him at all hours. look, he continues to tell people -- one of the interesting things we have seen about him time and again is this ability, at least for himself, paint his own reality. that is part of what he does in these rallies, he paints a version of reality where he has done more than any president has in this amount of time, more serious legislation. the reality is they have not passed a major signature piece of legislation. but to listen to him, it sounds like they have. he has been telling himself ak dording to several people i've spoken to that these polls really aren't real. what he says about this is all fake isn't an act. >> he really believes it. >> he believes he's in good shape. he thinks this is all just his permanent critics and what he thinks of as permanent opposition. you can look at those numbers and we can look at those numbers, but until we see what it means either for legislation or the midterms, i think it doesn't matter. where he is very frustrated and
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i don't think this has gotten enough attention, he has not paid a governmental price yet for what happened post charlottesville, but he is paying a personal business price. >> the idea that there's going to be more turnover at the white house. andy hemming in charge of rapid response and he is out. what's that a reflection of? >> one of the biggest issues you heard about right before the shakeup over the last couple weeks at the most senior levels, there was a swelling communications department with a lot of duplication. nobody knew exactly who did what. you're seeing john kelly trying to streamline things. this is one of those departures where you hear it described as a mutual decision. >> this is redundancy, not that his rapid response wasn't working. >> his rapid response was pushing out positive stories about the president. i don't think there's any rapid response anybody can do that's going to change what the
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president does. >> nobody is more rapid than he is. he would be overwhelming your own message. >> maggie, always fascinating to talk to you. thank you for sharing your reporting with us. a cnn exclusive. congressional investigators uncovering an e-mail from a top trump campaign aide revealing a previously unreported attempt to arrange a meeting between campaign officials and russian president vladimir putin last summer. the source of this e-mail is this man, rick dearborn. he is the president's deputy chief of staff now. our jessica schneider is live from washington with more on this. jessica, what have you learned? >> reporter: this is part of an e-mail disclosed to congressional investigators in a batch of about 20,000 documents from the trump campaign. it is from then campaign aide rick dearborn. in it he explains an individual was seeking to connect top trump officials in the campaign with the russian president. that individual looking to make that connection is identified only as being from wv. one source saying that's a reference to west virginia.
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in the e-mail dearborn did appear skeptical of the request to set up that meeting with putin. it's unclear if dearborn ever acted on the request. what's notable in this e-mail is it was sent in june 2016 around the same time of that trump tower meeting involving donald trump jr., jared kushner, paul manafort and rupgss who promised damaging information on hillary clinton. it's unclear if this e-mail now had any connection to that meeting, but intelligence experts say this does fit a pattern of russians trying to gather human intelligence from the campaign and get another attempt to gain an entry point into the campaign. rick dearborn who wrote the e-mail is now the president's deputy chief of staff. he didn't respond to multiple requests for comment, and the white house is only saying they also will not comment on potentially leaked documents. chris? >> all right, appreciate the reporting, thank you very much. we have more breaking news, and this is of the good variety. there is one winning ticket for the massive $758 million
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. special investigators have uncovered an e-mail that uncovers another attempt to arrange a meeting with russian president vladimir putin and the trump campaign. the source of the e-mail is rick dearborn. he is now the president's deputy chief of staff. joining us now to talk about all this and more, democratic senator richard blumenthal who serves on the judiciary committee, one of the panels investigating russian meddling. senator, thank you very much for being here. >> thank you. >> what can you tell us about this e-mail between rick dearborn and some unidentified person that appears to be trying to connect the trump campaign with vladimir putin himself. >> this e-mail is part of a vast collection of documents. the judiciary committee will be reviewing lots of them. we're investigating obstruction of justice that may have occurred with the firing of jim
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comey and others that involve overseeing the department of justice. what we know for sure is the special counsel is conducting a vigorous penetrating investigation involving exactly this kind of documentation, also interviews and the special counsel needs to be protected against any political interference which is why i have joined with republicans in bipartisan legislation that would protect against any kind of firing of the special counsel or any other oh. >> special counsel cannot be fired? >> well, right now our fear is the president might well seek to fire robert mueller. >> you're trying to pass legislation that would prohibit that. >> what we've seen over the past days and, in fact, weeks is a zigzagging, a boomeranging, the president dividing and the kind of behavior we've seen and the
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overt threats about red lines being crossed with financial dealings, complaints about a witch hunt, indicate that the president may be intent on firing robert mueller. >> so where are you with the investigation into any sort of russia collusion or meddling? how long did you're done? >> my hope is that it will be done sooner rather than later. but we want to make sure that there's no kind of inconsistency or contradiction with the special counsel campaign or investigation. and that's why this is important. here is the important point. the special counsel is investigating potential collusion between the trump campaign and the russians in their interference in our last election and potential obstruction of justice by the white house and specifically the president. that investigation has to go forward unimpeded without interference.
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>> one of the central figures, as you know, in this investigation is the russian ambassador sergey kislyak. he is a hard person, a hard man to pin down, at least by the media. however, our intrepid reporter, matthew chance, found him in moscow and had a conversation with him. so listen to a moment of this. >> what about this allegation that you're a spy master, a spy recruiter -- >> nonsense. >> did you attempt to recruit any members of the trump administration? >> you should be ashamed. cnn is the company that keeps on pointing to this allegation. it's nonsense. >> u.s. security officials, intelligence officials made that. >> i heard that in statements by them, also by former head of the f fbi. i had no reason to doubt that he knew what he said. >> what do you think of his response, sort of scoffing at it and saying people should be
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ashamed for even suggesting it? >> there was clearly indisputebly russian interference on our last election, an attack on our democracy. some would regard it, and i believe as well, an act of war. the potential collusion or conspiracy involving the trump campaign is very much a topic of these various investigations, and for the russians to scoff at it or belittle it could be expected, especially from the former ambassador who himself may have participate d. >> back here at home, what do you make of the public spat with mitch mcconnell, and others, the latest being jeff flake and john mccain. you have been on the receiving end of the president's criticism and eyre on twitter and insults, what's your advice to these
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senators he's going after now? >> my hope is these internal divisions within the republican establishment, that is between the president and senate republicans, will give us an opening for more bipartisanship and cooperation, for example, on raising the debt ceiling without poison pill amendments or achieving a budget. my fear is these divisions are just a short-lived personal spat or feud that will be papered over and, in fact, the republicans will come together, perhaps on efforts to defund central government programs as a price for moving forward on the budget or lifting the debt ceiling. >> you think there's a possible opportunity with the president going after his own that then they come to democrats and need your help? >> i'm finding among my republican colleagues that there is an appetite for bipartisan cooperation on infrastructure, for example. we know we need to rebuild our roads and bridges and highways
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and ports and airports and va facilities. there should be no question about it. we know we need to lift the debt ceiling, the full faith and credit of the united states is at stake. we know we need a budget without holding it hostage. >> do you need the president for all those things? can't congress do those and box him in in the way you did with russian sanctions? >> i think we can create a compelling narrative and momentum that really enables the president to do the right thing and maybe even take some credit for it. >> interesting diabolical plan, senator. thank you for sharing it with us and being here on "new day." great to see you. chris. >> a tale of two trumps, maybe. we see him on script sometimes, straining to read the word of others and then, the way he is when he wants people to know how he really feels.
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so which is it? does the president want to put the country first and heal wounds and unite or be trump, flame throwing and divisive? the answer may be clear to you, but others seem to be confused. six different times he's flip-flopped on the moral mandate raised by the alliness in charlottesville. here are the facts. the first response was saturday, the 12th. >> we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, big stri and violence on many sides, on many sides. >> the "on many sides" mitigating moral monsters like the kkk was not liked. two days later those "many sides" were gone. >> we must love each other, show affection for each other and unite together in condemnation of hatred, bigotry and violence.
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>> when pressed by reporters about his initial error, trump did what he does most, he doubled down. >> i think there's blame on both sides. you look at both sides, i think there's blame on both sides. >> then when his own party finally came out to beat back the president's divisiveness, trump spoke of unity and said we owe it to the troops. >> when we open our hearts to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice, no place for bigotry and no tolerance for hate. >> just a day later, literally a day later the country that the troops deserve gave way to the political reality trump wants. once again saying he did nothing wrong. >> i hit them with neo-nazi, i hit them with everything. i got the white supremacists, the neo-nazi. i got them all in here.
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let's see. yeah, kkk. we have kkk. >> then again literally the next d day, back on prompter reading someone else's words in nevada we heard this. >> it is time to heal the wounds that divide us and to seek a new unity based on the common values that unite us. >> what is the deal? let's debate this with cnn political commentators. we've got ana navarro and ben ferguson. good to see you. he believes what he said with those crowds, antifa, kkk, they're both bad. you don't want to say it but that's what he believes. every once in a while somebody says, look, you're putting us in a hole. say this, and he will literally be tied to the prompter. he doesn't even really move from
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screen to screen, that's how tied he is to somebody else's words. it's clearly not where his head is on this issue. isn't that just a fear of reckoning? >> i disagree with you a little bit. i think there's different settings where you have different things you can say. when you're talking to your base, you'll have much more blunt conversation. if he's in his rally which is a place that he loves and literally that's probably one of his happiest places to be, he's going to be him. he's going to be donald trump. if he's going the next day and talking to a different group of people, whether it's the military or more formal setting the day after that you saw yesterday with the teleprompter, i don't think it's fair to say those are not his words. he goes over that, goes over with a speech writer. everybody has somebody that writes for them. if donald trump doesn't like it, he will go off that teleprompter and people criticize him for it. >> he does exactly that, 24 hours later, ana, he says the message that's supposed to be given that's presidential, and then he fights it. it's not just the same as saying i'm going to give one set of policy ideas to you because
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you're the texan, and i'll give another one to you -- yes, politicians do that. this is about morality. this is about who is bad and who is good or what is bad and what is good. it's not something like just selling different items to people. >> i think you just hit upon it. look, if he was reading a teleprompter and giving an off-the-cuff speech about policy, none of us expect donald trump to be albert einstein, none of us expect him to be a tenured professor at harvard. he doesn't know policy. this is a basic moral issue, condemning white supremacy, condemning hatred and racism. if you can't have a consistent message on that, then you have a real problem. we are not asking him for consistency on details. we're asking him for consistency on right and wrong. it's not only that he was inconsistent. he was inconsistent over and over again. he said one thing on saturday, he said another thing on monday, another thing on tuesday.
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it is one day after the other. so this is very simple. it is the real trump versus the scripted trump. it is dr. jekyll and mr. hyde. >> i think it's an issue of donald trump trying to navigate and trying to ig if your out how to communicate, not as a candidate, not as donald trump who goes out and connects with a lot of people that voted for him and made him president. sometimes you have to talk differently when you actually are the president of the united states of america. i think what he's learned is you've got to get certain issues right every time. you've got to have a clear and concise message. what he had the other night when he talked about the war in afghanistan, there was no ambiguity there. that's where i think the president can probably learn from that. that was a good night for the president. that was a night when people walked away and said i feel comfortable with this, i feel like he has an understanding of the issue. i think the president has to start doing that more often. i agree with you, you don't want to have when you're whacking out
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there, one thing you want to say on a tuesday that looks like it's different than what you said on wednesday. i think donald trump should have the right to be donald trump and not have everything -- some people i think focus so much on certain little words and things. he cleared up -- when he was in his rally the other night. he didn't say both sides. most people say he shouldn't have said both sides. >> he did say it. he said they are trying to take away our history. that's both sides. he is pitting american versus american with those words. and he lost the right to be the victim the day he became president of the united states of america. he is not the president of a divided state of america. he lost the right to pit one american versus another the take he took that oath of office. >> i think you can have a real conversation about people that become violent, and that doesn't mean that you're necessary the head person -- what he did was saying you can only say this, can't have a real conversation about this. when we're watching on tv people that are literally being
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violent, it is insame to imply that somehow the president shouldn't be able to talk about this, literally they're wearing a gas mask, throwing urine at police officers. >> the only time he's making a coherent message is when he's on teleprompter. you almost get the feeling that john kelly is behind him operating a shock collar. >> he got elected not being on teleprompter. >> he got elected not being on teleprompter. >> lindsey graham ought to beat him if he was on teleprompter all the time. >> a lot of positive attributes that got him elected for the group of people that et voed for him. there's no question about that. it isn't about how you do it. it's about what's in here and what's in here. you either think that nazis and people fighting against nazis are different on a moral basis, or you don't. it's not about the violence. violence is wrong. if you are violent when you
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protest, you're a rioter, not a protester. whether it's antifa or blm. that was never the issue. it was that people like heather heyer who were there to fight against white supremacy were somehow equal to them because they both got violent. you know that's not true because you condemned it. >> absolutely. >> but you're also defending the president as if somehow this is about picking audiences and learning how to be president. it's about what is in your heart. >> here is what i'll say. i think there's many americans that watched what was going on on tv and seeing people violent over here and violent over here. there was a real conversation the next day about that. because when you watched it, you knew there were people on both sides that were being violent. >> the analogy a specious
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analogy. when the blacks were fighting against police with fire hoses? no. when i get in the white supremacists face and we start going at it, are we morally equal? >> i'm going to say right side and wrong side. >> you said that in the aftermath. >> i said that and i agree with it now. when you're the president of the united states of america, there's certain issues you have to always get ride. the issue of race is definitely one of those. >> it's hate. >> hate, race, bigotry, whatever it may be, you have to always get that issue right. i totally glee with you. at the same time i do not think there is a problem having a real conversation about the fact that there are certain people that show up at these events to become violent and act as if there were people there that were not there solely to be
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violent. >> but ben, what happened that saturday at uva -- we cannot say that about the people that showed up, the brave young uva students who showed up to counter protests on saturday. they didn't show up to be violent. they showed up to defend american values. we have got to talk about just how reprehensible this rally speech in arizona was. he spent minutes after minutes relitigating his response to charlottesville. it was all about him. then he was in arizona, miles away, john mccain, a national hero hanging by his thumbs for five years when donald trump was getting five draft deferments. he leads the chant against john mccain. he fosters an environment where people show up with signs that says john mccain is a traitor, and john mccain who should die. a man going through chemotherapy. that is reprehensible.
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that is reprehensible. he gives a passing mention to heather heyer. that's reprehensible. >> i don't know if someone showed up with a sign that said john mccain should die. that's reprehensible. >> it's on video. >> i'm saying it's wrong. john mccain knows in politics you'll have a vicious debate. i love john mccain. i really do. john mccain i think understands that when you're in politics, it's going to get heated. john mccain doesn't mind that. let's not act like he's somehow -- >> i'm sorry, but donald trump is not fit -- >> you're allowed to have political fights, it's about it. you don't like my policy, that's one thing. you wouldn't insult my father, say i'm not a hero because i got captured. there's decency and politics. ben and ana, you did a good job.
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lawmakers must raise the debt ceiling before then to pay the bills in full and on time. steve mnuchin has used special accounting tricks to stay under the debt ceiling, but the gimmicks tap out sometime between september 29th and mid october. there are big consequences if washington doesn't raise the ceiling in time. a downgrade for u.s. credit. federal employees and contractors wouldn't get paid and world markets could tank. the debt ceiling will be hit exactly as congress needs to pass a spending mosier to keep the government open. the president is now threatening a government shutdown if his border wall is not funded. by the way, the last shutdown cost the u.s. economy $24 billion. chris? >> good to know, christine. when they hold up those payments, it's the people who pay the price. >> absolutely. the streets outside the nfl offices in new york are filled with colin kaepernick supporters. andy scholes has more in "the bleacher report." kaepernick was, of course, the guy who started these protests in this most recent spate of not
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standing during the national anthem. what's the latest? >> the nfl season kicks off two weeks from today. kaepernick remains without a team. and because of that, a number of civil rights groups organized a rally outside the nfl's offices. people wearing kaepernick jerseys and shirts with his face on it. many believe kaepernick is being blackballed by teams because of his social activism. >> the nfl is 70% people of color that's not this their best interest. >> obviously the nfl thinks he's bad for business. he's not yelling and screaming and being disrespectful. >> organizers from the united we stand rally requested a meeting with the nfl by september 7th to discuss methods to support and protect players who are socially active. alisyn they say if they don't get that meeting they will call
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for a boycott. >> thank you very much. so we all remember el on-gonzalez and the day he was taken forcibly from his home, a gun pointed at him in this infamous photo in this custody battle that gained international attention. well, now, 17 years later, cnn goes one-on-one with elion gonzalez. that's next. is this a phone?
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new cnn documentary airing tonight that breaks down what life is like for the most identifiable people in cuba. 23-year-old elian gonzalez. >> speaking foreign language ]. fascinating. >> cnn correspondent patrick sat down with illielian joining us from havana. what does elian mean to the people there? >> he means so much. people went out in the street,
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and fought for his return. a lot of people never thought he would get back here, that the im pire, imperial was going to keep him. they feel many of the people including fidel castro until he died last year that elian belonged to them and was somehow their child. you sure got the chance walking around yesterday. people walked up hug the him. people that live in his town grab a hold of him. he's incredibly fine with this. he's a very confident man sure of his opinions, and i says that he has not been brainwashed. i was in his home. it's a nice house but hardly the mansion that people in south photo array said florida said he would get by coming back here. he's engaged to be married and says he has no doubts that his father had made the right choice in bringing him back to cuba. the. >> what do you think your life would haven about like if you had stayed in the united states?
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[speaking foreign language]. >> the most striking thing, though, was both elian gonzalez and his father said they have no ill will towards the miami relatives despite the bitter family f family foo family fooud. tearing up at that thought. he was concerned about his well-being but elian said it's his decision now. he think bs the u.s. all the
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time. he wants to go back and says thank the people who supported his father in his desire to return to cuba. he also says that he would like to meet with those miami relative that is the bad glad is gone for too long and both he and his father said it's time to reconcile the gonzalez family fight. >> what's his life like? >> so he has trained to be an engineer. he graduated last year, chris, from a military academy. people saw him in his military uniform and said no, he's become a spokesman for the government here, but he's now working for a company that make the water tanks, which are a very important facet of people's lives. he's got a very nice girlfriend. he was serving us lots of cups of cuban curve. he lives with his dad like most cubans do here. he says he's just kind of a regular guy. but he's so well spoken, so sure of his opinions. he wants to learn english.
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he says he's got big hopes for the future. i don't think this is the last we've heard from him. >> patrick it is so fascinating to see where he is now. thank you so much for bringing that to us. cnn films will air that couldn't. the story of a cuban boy caught between two nations 10:00 p.m. eastern. we are following a lot of news, let's get after it. >> it's time to heal the wounds that divide us. these are bad people. and i really think they don't like our country. >> he'll make a scripted teleprompter speech and then turn around and undo it. >> before to even toy with it is dangerous for our role in the world. >> we wanted a president to break the system. break washington. >> don't make it personal and remember these are members of your team. you need every vote you got. >> get the tickets out. >> this is the largest win ever
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by a single ticket. >> the lucky winner walked in not knowing they purchased the ticket that could forever change hair life. >>announcer: it is "new day." >> welcome it is thursday, august 24, 8:00 in the east. if you look at the head lines, they are all just hitting on one theme. presidential whiplash. three personas in three speeches but the same president. different day, different crowd, different trump. the wild swing from uniter to divider. it has to threaten his ability to get anything through congress. >> all right on another subject, also this morning, who won the massive power ball jackpot. one winning ticket was sold in water town, massachusetts. $758 million. that is the largest jackpot won
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by a single ticket in american history. the we will speak with the owner of the store where the ticket was sold. let's stop with the top story. cnn political analyst jonathan martin and amy parnes. >> let me start with you. it's hard to get our bearings sometimes with the whiplash of the past week where we saw president trump in all sorts of different personas and modes. teleprompter trump and political rally campaign style trump. so, what are we do make of all of this? >> well, look. i mean i think you see kind of the struggle between a more conventional white house that puts words in front of him and gets it into the teleprompter on time, and that can, on a good day, get him to read that, and then trump's own instincts, which are much more toward bei
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