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hurricane harvey brings life-threatening floods and strong winds. president trump faces his first natural disaster test. plus a presidential pardon. >> i'll make a prediction. i think he's going to be just fine. okay? >> executive powers in play with sheriff joe arpaio. back at works and back at odds. >> one vote away. i will not mention any names. very presidential, isn't it? very presidential. >> why trump is going after members of his own party while looking for a legislative win.
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"inside politics," the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters, now. welcome to "inside politics." i'm nia malika-henderson. john king is off today. thanks for joining us. we'll get to politics in a moment. first, tropical storm harvey. texas is dealing with continuing downpours and widespread flooding because the storm has stalled even though harvey's sustained winds are down to 45 miles an hour, it's forecast to continue dumping rain for days. at least two death vbs confirmed and houston officials say at least 1,000 people were rescued overnight and more requests are coming in. a short time ago, the local sheriff told cnn the floodwaters are getting deeper. >> we're receiving information that the rainfall totals over several hours -- this, of course, is not dated but has already eclipsed the 500-year
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rain level mark. a few hours ago, we're hearing six feet of water going into homes and some of the southern part of our area. so, of course, with it happening overnight, it's kind of difficult to really put eyes on everything and assess the damage. whenever possible, try to do some aerial assessment to get a better lay of the land. it definitely seems catastrophic. unfortunately sad to say we may be getting more rain coming our way. >> rosa flores is in houston. rosa, what's the situation you're seeing now in houston? >> reporter: nichlt a, it is ov overwhelming how much water has ponded here. an area where we were live two hours ago, we can't go there
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anymore because the water has completely covered the that area where we were. it's probably about a block from where i'm stand iing. yesterday, we were doing lives beyond that. if you can imagine this. where you see those -- the tree tops, that's actually a hill that goes down to the banks of the buffalo bayou. it's now a gushing river, rushing toward the gulf of mexico. the streets are now ponds in areas. in other areas, they're gushing like rivers as well. there is a ramp that goes on i-35 north towards dallas. that ramp is completely covered in water as well. there are people with power outages. we just saw center point energy personnel here checking the building that's to my right. this building to my left, we'll see residents in this apartment building of about 100 units,
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they're creating a dam to stop the water from going into the first floor, the area we are park their vehicles. they've been working on this for about an hour now. they keep on adding height to that because the water keeps on creep iing up closer and closero their building. nia, it is just difficult to fathom how much water is accumulating. this city is a city of bayous. they meander through neighborhoods like they do through downtown. imagine these bayous creeping through neighborhoods and getting closer and closer to homes. 911 center is at capacity. that's the last i saw from the city of houston. advice from city leaders here is that people needed food and water for four or five days because this was going to be a marathon. it really took a turn for the worst last night when it started
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raining. as you can see, nia, around me, it is still raining. very bad news for houston as the water continues to accumulate, continues to rise and become very, very dangerous. i'll leave you with this picture before i toss over to you. you see floating debris. floating debris as it rushes through these bayous that have now turned to raging rivers, nia. >> unfortunately expected to be pretty heavy for the next coming days. you be safe out there. god speed to the residents of houston. thank you, rosa. we'll have another live update on the texas situation in a littleby. let's turn to the political fallout. saturday, president trump sent this tweet, closely monitoring hurricane harvey from camp david, we are leaving nothing to chance. city, state, federal governments are working great together. as hurricane harvey moved in friday night, the white housemaid quite a few headlines of its own. first, president trump blocked an obama-era plan that allows
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transgender recruits from joining the military. and he also pardoned sheriff joe arpaio, who became a treatment of prisoners and undocumented immigrants and critics have accused him of unfair ll ll lll profiling. trump praised arpaio and took an interest, once he became president, in his legal troubles and the admiration is clearly mutual. >> he's a big supporter of law enforcement. i know it came from his heart. two years ago, i supported him
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for his rally and i always said, regardless of pardon or no pardon, i'll be with him to the end and i say that. >> trump hinted at a pardon earlier this week at his rally in phoenix. >> so, was sheriff joe convicted for doing his job? he should have had a jury but, you know what? i'll make a prediction. i think he's going to be just fine. okay? >> cnn's manu raju, margaret talov and cnn's jeff zeleny. i'm going to start with you, jeff, on this. this news dump that started on friday, why did it happen? some say maybe donald trump wanted to get buried by the news
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coming out of texas. others said maybe he wanted the eyeballs clearly on the news because of the hurricane. what's your take on it? >> it's so interesting that the president wants to do so many things at one time. i'm not sure he didn't want to sort of hide this news. he didn't want to draw attention to it for his base. one thing we learned as we near the very interesting month of august, you can change the people in the offices of the west wing. you can change the staff. you can change a lot of people. the president is going to be exactly the same. and he is going to directly after his base. that's his strategy. that's this entire arpaio situation. yes, the new chief of staff that john kelly can have effects on the margins. that's one reason sebastian gorka is not there anymore. however the president is sending a message that he will be the same as with steve bannon there or not there. throwing his full support behind
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sheriff joe arpaio, he is sending a message to his base that they are the most important. they are the people who brought him to this dance. has he so alienated himself from republicans? we're ending this month in a very different position than we started and it's harder for anyone who works in the west wing to get anything done. >> you mentioned alienating fellow republicans. paul ryan came out after this decision and said, through a spokesperson, the speaker does not agree with this decision. law enforcement officials have a special responsibility to respect the rights of everyone in the united states. we should not allow anyone to believe that responsibility is diminished by this pardon. also, john mccain, who hasn't been a fan, obviously, of this president, came out and said the president has the authority to make this pardon but doing so at this time undermines his claim
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for the respect of the rule of law, as mr. arpaio has shown no remorse for his actions. margaret, donald trump doing what he has been doing for a while. that is poking the establishment wing of his party. >> both of the republicans from the state of arizona. and jeff flake came out in favor of the political issue, a pardon. the president not only signaled to the base that he's going to live up to his promises but he also -- and we don't know yet how deliberate this was, how incidental it was, but signaled to anyone who might be in trouble, who is a loyalist, who will stand by those people who stood by him. there's speculation about whether there's any intention to signal anything to the folks in the mueller probe. that's speculation at this point but explains why this is such a
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controversial dynamic. it's a situation where the president certainly has very broad powers. every presidents do. it's interesting to do it presentencing. a lot of the things about this case are unusual and therefore subject to discussion. unless somebody wants to challenge it in court -- i know there's been discussion about that, too, but i'm trying to see the upside of that. >> yeah. i think the ryans and mccains of the world do have a legitimate gripe of the process of how this pardon came down. what do john mccain, jeff flake and paul ryan all have in common? a fundamental difference with donald trump about what they see as the future of the republican party. they want a party that's more inclusive, that's expansive, that is big hearted, that basically is in the spirit of the party of lincoln that welcomed all people and that, you know, goes beyond the,
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frankly, older white male base of the party. especially arizona, increasingly pn hispanic state. mccains and flakes of the world look at demography and think double down on sheriff joe -- political gaf in the long run. >> do we expect other also come out? i understand mitch mcconnell hasn't won his comment on this so far. >> he has been excellent. referring questions on this to the white house. >> conveniently. >> speaking at a kentucky republican event, he did not speak about this issue there. he has avoided most public comments about trump since that august 9th speech when he gave that rather mild criticism of trump, saying he excessed in
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expectations coming in. of course, that set off trump and led to jonathan's article this last week. >> we'll get to that in the next block, yeah. >> i think republicans are happy that they're on recess this mon month. >> right. >> a lot of them could avoid talking about these controversial issues. arpaio pardon was so controversial even if the president did try to bury it in the hurricane, so many questions are outstanding. washington post reporting yesterday about potentially the president discussed this issue with the attorney general. >> months ago. >> months ago to back off prosecuting sheriff joe. arpaio supposedly will talk to the press tomorrow, too. a lot of questions still remain. >> republicans won't be able to avoid those questions once they come back to washington. the president is up and tweeting, praising the first responders. up next, it's the president
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even though hurricane harvey came ashore friday night, it's now a bit weaker, continues to cause torrential rains and floods. we'll have a live update in a little bit. those images coming in from rockport. more rain is expected over the next couple of days. here is where part of trump's agenda stands right now. the affordable care act still the law of the land. the border wall still not built. now president trump is also turning to tax reform. on wednesday he's traveling to missouri for changing the tax code. his list also includes other not so easy agenda items. $1 trillion infrastructure plan. as well as the looming debt
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ceiling and budget negotiations which could lead to gop infighting. tough words that the president has had for his fellow republicans probably won't help him get any of those things done during tuesday's phoenix rally, trump name dropped the senate majority leader and not in a good way. he also hit senators mccain and flake without even saying their names. >> one vote away. i will not mention any names. very presidential, isn't it? and nobody wants me to talk about your other senator, who is weak on borders, weak on crime. so i won't talk about him. nobody wants me to talk about him. nobody knows who the hell he is. >> in keeping the feud with leader mcconnell feeling fresh, trump tweeted on thursday, the only problem i have with mitch mcconnell is that after hearing repeal and replace for seven years, he failed.
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that should never have happened. he did say this about governing at last night's kentucky republican party dinner. >> so, governing is challenging from time to time. a lot of people look at all that and find it frustrating, messy. well, welcome to the democratic process. that's the way it is in our country. and it has been that way from the beginning. and the only reason people are so focused on it now is the 24-hour cable news and the internet. >> you have the story this week about the relationship between mitch mcconnell and donald trump. he talked about the process of governing there being frustrating, messy and hard. that could also be a description of the relationship with the president.
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>> well done. you couldn't ask for a better lead-in to describe the sharp contrast between leader mcconnell and president trump than that clip you just showed there. president trump, who is standing at a rally in phoenix, savaging the two senators of his own party before thousands of their own voters. literally mocking them, saying nobody knows who the hell jeff flake is. frankly, you wouldn't have a president from the opposite party say that about somebody in the past. this president is saying that about his own party. it points to how little connection he has to the institutional party. then you have mcconnell who says this is not easy. this is messy. and i think therein lies the challenge. president trump comes from a world of basically being impulsive, instant success and gratification, seeing things happen at the snap of a hand. it's not how governing works. mcconnell who first came to washington in 1985 knows that
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well. it's a long, drawn-out process. that has created this enormous tension in their relationship. trump wants to get things done. he wants to see success. he wants positive accolades. it's not happened so far. mcconnell is now feeling the brunt of that. president trump doesn't care about the fact that they share a party label. he doesn't want to take any of the blame, number one. that's the most important thing. second thing is when he's attacked, he hits back, doesn't care who is doing the attacking. it does raise questions about how much this marriage can be saved. twas shotgun marriage to start with. it was not based on love. it was based on sure convenience. >> right. >> i'm not sure whether this thing can last. if he does, by the way, keep doing this he's going to lose any capital he has left. if there are constitutional issues about this president and how he responds to mr. mueller, he's not going to have a lot of
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friends in the u.s. senate. >> look at who has attacked. we'll put this list up. he has basically picked fights with one-fifth of the republican senate. is he going for one-fourth at this point? >> possibly. that's right. the thing that fwchlt rates republican senators the most -- i talked to a lot of them about these attacks last week. trump gets into new controversy every day. it's the attack against their own party. its own members. the senate is very much a clubby place. relationships are very close, particularly within the republican congress. they overwhelmingly support mitch mcconnell. unanimously re-elected as leader and no threat to his leadership even as president trump suggested earlier this month that perhaps mcconnell won't be leader next year, next congress. and flake, too.
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one point that the senator made to me, for trump to legislate, learn about the senators, their states. that's how he gets things done not this bullying tactic. >> threatening a shutdown around the border wall. how serious is that? >> only as serious as republicans let it be. if you're watching mitch mcconnell, you don't understand what he's saying there. if you read between the lines, he's saying he's basically done with president trump. he will work with mike pence, the staff, the legislative team. there are things he still wants to get done, right? tax reform among them. what president trump is doing with his strategy is putting all the bets on that tax reform for himself. and if -- forget about the wall and the shutdown and the debt ceiling for a second. all the chips are now on tax reform, for himself, for his own power base. >> there's teleprompter trump and then off-the-cuff trump.
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>> welcome back to "inside politics." before we continue i want to get an update on the catastrophic flooding in texas, the result of hurricane harvey. even though the storm has weakened, it has stalled and continues dumping rain. in addition to the damage from the wind and storm surge, flood something a major and growing problem. houston officials say at least 1,000 people were rescued overnight. this morning, we are hearing still from people who were trapped in their homes. cnn's polo sandoval is southwest of houston in victoria, texas. polo, what's the situation there right now? >> reporter: this really goes to show that there is an added flood threat here for the smaller communities as houston
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continues to deal with issues. the city of victoria, partially submerged streets. meanwhile, some of the houses themselves still fairly dry. the concern here, a nearby river could overflow its banks in the coming days. all that rain water had ans to go somewhere. many people, though, seeking shelter in some of the shelters being set up, about 34 shelters throughout the state of texas here since much of the infrastructure in these communities has taken a hit, like their power systems, water systems as well. as you can imagine, those systems will likely grow as that flooding threat continues in texas. >> what are residents being advised to do right now? >> at this point, many people are being advised to simply stay home. as we mentioned the infrastructure took a hard hit in these cities which means there's no power. the irony there is very little drinking water. people are being asked to conserve water and there is an actual boil water notice in some
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of these cities. that is the main recommendation for folks as the cleanup is going to take days and getting back online, getting the power restored will also take days for several smaller cities. finally, i'll leave you with this. it's amazing. you can hear a rooster right now. very ominous, very quiet. the eye of hurricane harvey was whipping through here 24 hours ago. quite the difference here. >> polo sandoval, stay safe out there. now let's get back to politics. tale of two trumps or split screen presidency, it's been very much apparent over these last days. >> i think there's blame on both sides. was george washington a slave owner? so will george washington now lose his status? they show up in the helmets and the black masks and they've got clubs and they've got everything. antifa. we are not defined by the color of our skin.
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the figure on our paycheck. or the party of our politics. we are defined by our shared humanity, by our citizenship in this magnificent nation and by the love that fills our hearts. >> as you just saw in a speech on wednesday, the president sounded, well, pretty presidential, talking about unity and bringing americans together. just the day before, not so much. to president trump it's a fine of his great range. on thursday he tweet this had, fake news is now complaining about my different types of back-to-back speeches. well, there was afghanistan, somber, the big rally, enthusiastic, dynamic and fun and the american legion, respectful and strong. too bad the dems have no one who can change tones. but, really, it wasn't a matter of changing tones. speaking more than an hour to a large crowd of supporters in phoenix alaid any fears that a
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post bannon white house would be a moderate one. off-the-cuff comments, main concern are his base voters. we see two different trumps, one sort of appealing to the establishment but mainly the person concerned about the base. >> this is exactly what he wants to do, what he will do for the rest of his presidency. any thought that he will remain on message and on the teleprompter from here forward that's not going to happen. we're at a different moment here. we're at a moment where his presidency will be test bid the events, yes, happening in houston and the entire region but also what's coming up on the agenda in september. no presidential speech will be able to get him out of that. also we're at a moment, at a point where the importance and necessity of government will come into view here. the president is tweeting that things on the ground are going
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along smoothly. we don't know that yet. as the storm moves through we need government. this is reasons why the government exists at the state level, local level. he is being tested on that front but also the legislative test here. he can give as many rallies as he wants surrounded by his supporters but doesn't matter if he doesn't accomplish anything here. the tale of two presidencies. we also are going to see him tested this fall if can he accomplish anything. >> one of the things, margaret, that people talked about is sort of the need for unity, right? trump even himself making it seem like he was making a call for unity. most voters don't really think he's a unifyier. they see him as a divider. 62% believe that he is doing more to divide the country than unite the country. 31% believe he is uniting the
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country. >> i think the issue on the message is not tonality when you're talking to different audiences about different things. it's consistency itself. national tragedy, national disaster or some important issues we'll hear at the u.n. general assembly next month, international issues, which world leaders are looking for consistency. it's the consistency message that has become problematic for both fellow republicans who want to know how is the white house going to steer on an issue like tax reform? if they go out on a limb and agree to vote on something is that still going to be the same thing they'll be asked to vote on a few weeks later? if you are a democrat who is thinking you're in a tight race, maybe you're thinking a vote on taxes is something where you should go across the line ordeal that involves the debt ceiling is something that i should think
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about voting on, is it a consistent ask? can you take it to the bank that if you do x, the result will be y? >> and republicans obviously worried about their branding. if you go to "the washington post" danforth, former senator, says donald trump will be associated with the republican party in general. if people feel that the republican party is donald trump or like donald trump that may have implications immediately for 2018. >> and remarkable statement by a former respected senator. and i would like to emphasize former. you're not hearing current senators saying that. current republican leadership certainly staying away from the criticism. the challenges they have, as jeff was saying earlier, they have to get stuff done still. they need presidential
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cooperation on basic essence of governing. the president threatened a government shutdown over funding for the wall. funding for the wall is not going to get approved by the senate. there are not votes to approve it there gl and republicans don't want it? >> republicans don't want the shutdown. lot of republicans don't want the wall either. they'll need to work with the president to figure out a way out of standoffs to raise the national debt ceiling, keep the government open, let alone tax reform, infrastructure, where they're nowhere close to getting something done. >> the two fast points, nia. the base of this party will blame congress before they blame president trump. >> which he knows that. >> the party of one. >> they're blaming the media first, congress next and before we get to president trump's advisers. he will be the last person they blame. my second point is they share the right enemies, right? the real reason they love this
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president is his style and affect but also because he has the right enemies. whether or not they get tax reform, infrastructure, border wall, yes, that matters to some voters. this cultural solidarity of being on the right side of media and the so-called liberal elite, that matters so much nowadays to the bedrock of the conservative base. i think president trump, with at least 25% of the party, is going to be in good shape here for a while. to blame congress first. >> they feel good about trump and feel like he put in a good faith effort maybe that's enough. in a newly published op-ed former vice president joe biden is slamming trump. he writes if it wasn't clear before, it is clear now. we're living through a battle for a soul of this nation. today we have a president who
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publicly claimed equivalency between nechlt o nazi and the klan to those who would oppose their hate. that's from joe biden. it shows that this isn't done yet in terms of the fallout of charlottesville. >> jonathan is right. we're also ending august in a moment of a culture war that did not seem to exist at the beginning of the summer. that is by design here. yes, there are some external events happening. this is part of the president's strategy to build his base here. this divisive culture war is perilous for both sides and politically damaging, too. as steve bannon said we want democrats to talk about race every day. the white identity politics here work in this administration. so, this is something that we have to keep an eye on. >> indeed. latest commander in chief
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test, leading the country as the gulf coast braced for hurricane and its aftermath.
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with humira, remission is possible. monitoring a dire situation. stay with cnn for a live update at the top of the next hour. now back to politics. one of the many commander in chief challenges that president trump is facing. the administration is conveying an all hands on deck approach. pence monitoring the situation from the white house. for presidents, natural disasters can become defining moments, particularly if they are handled poorly. it's a warning that senator chuck grassly pointed out friday when he tweeted keep on top of hurricane harvey. don't make the same mistake that
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bush made with katrina. trump tweeted chuck grassley got your message loud and clear. we have fantastic people on the ground. got there long before harvey. so far, so good. this is an ongoing storm, obviously, margaret, and we have this tweet from the president. many people are now saying this is the worst storm/hurricane they've ever seen. good new sthas we have great talent on the ground. what do you make of how he's doing? >> not shockingly, he is using twitter. >> and exaggerating, too. >> we don't know. >> we certainly do not. federal officials have tried to be prepared and to that extent it's good that the president wants to support his federal staff.
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there is a danger where a storm worthy impact is supposed to be felt days after. the hurricane came and went. we'll see in the next few days both how bad this storm is and how good the federal and state and local response is able to be. there have been reports or speculation that the president may go to texas. this is something that presidents always weigh in. you don't want to draw resources away from what's happening. john kelly may be able to use his experience as a general and having led homeland security for a plan. his efforts to control the president's message are sort of elusive and hit or miss. >> you may see the fingerprints
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of john kelly and that's something that sarah huckabee sanders alluded to. >> you may. and this is almost exactly the same time of the month and so no president will be caught as flat footed. it shows why government is needed and there will be funding bills for this, which will impact things in september. we'll see how these conservative senators, congressmen vote on that as well. it's tough. >> great point. >> we'll watch for everything. a quick note, texas governor greg abbott is among jake tapper's guests at the top of the hour in "state of the union." coming up, our reporters share from their notebooks for a bipartisan push for health care compromise. the senators crucial to that deal, up next. because i get a safe driving bonus check every six months i'm accident free. because i don't use my cellphone when i'm driving. even though my family does, and leaves me all alone. here's something else... i don't share it with mom. i don't. right, mom? i have a brand new putter you don't even know about!
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let's close by asking our reporters to share something from their notebooks and help
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kooev keep you ahead of the curve in the coming weeks. >> congress returns to session next week and there may be a bipartisan effort to return to health care, believe it or not. patty murray of washington. they're working on a narrow health care fix to try to shore up the individual insurance markets. this, of course, after a bunch of big insurers have left key state exchanges, something that could look alone the lines of insuring subsidies that go to insurance companies. continue, provide more flexibility to states. that's something that republicans want. of course, we know how difficult health care is. if there is a possibility of getting something done, they're trying to do something in september. something to ensure there's some certainty before the enrollment period begins for these insurance companies and presumbpresum
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presumably roll it into something that can pass. >> hope springs eternal on that one. jay martin? >> it's worth emphasizing how powerful jack danforth's op-ed was. he looms large on political landscape, mentor for a lot of folks in the gop, including josh holley, the attorney general who may run against claire mccaskill next year. the fact that he has come out and called president trump a hateful man, leading the party to ruin, it puts the current members of the party in missouri in a tough spot. who do they side with, the godfather of the party in their state or rank and file who like trump just fine? that gets to the larger split. the rank and file are just fine with the president. the elites in the party increasingly believe he is a perilous figure for gop. >> we'll keep an eye on that. margaret? >> i'm going to double down on
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missouri. the dynamic inside the republican party is clearly fascinating but we'll also get a chance to see next week how president trump, live and in person, deals with red state democrats, claire mccaskill, who may be facing one of the toughest re-election bids for the senate in the coming year. staunch clinton supporter and has talked herself of bipartisan outreach and wishes that the president would engage in more bipartisanship, whether it's tax reform, infrastructure. the state senator democrat state senator who posted on facebook, glorifying assassination attempts against sitting presidents. not okay and is under tremendous pressure from both sides to step aside. we're going to see a lot of democratic/trump politics play out of missouri. >> jeff? >> about that trip to missouri, one of the reasons we're talking about it so much, the president
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still has not traveled that much, doing events like this. this is what administration officials say now is the beginning of a new phase of his presidency, that's going to start after labor day as well, about campaigning -- traveling across the country to push the agenda. tax reform, of course, is front and center on wednesday in springfield. but there's some skepticism. i have some as well as administration officials who say they don't know how much he will actually travel. i was talking to a senior administration official who say they have tried to put events like this -- not these big rallies but agenda-focused event on his schedule only to have it fall off because the president simply wants to do large rallies, not more presidential, smaller things. they say that the -- this is going to be one of the new themes of the president's travel, trying to do more target events. we'll see if it actually happens. that's wednesday in springfield. >> we'll see if it's a trend.
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