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fared much better than harvey. after years of trying to get in touch with the general. >> who them boys over here? who that? >> finally the opportunity to thank the man in uniform who had shown them such compassion. and for the general, a chance to see how those tiny babies who were once so close to death are now thriving. >> boy, you guys grew up in 12 years. >> thank you for saving our lives. >> god bless you. >> a bond forged in devastation, unbroken by the passing of time. you are live in the "cnn newsroom." i'm cabrera in new york. great to have you with us tonight. a side of president trump the public never sees, more compassionate, and embracing his role as skoaler in cheech.
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he was on the ground in storm ravaged parts of texas and louisiana today. taking pictures with first responders. images like these of the president giving out food and loading up supplies, all the more striking because it was just days ago that he was criticized for a lack of empathy. the death toll from this storm reaches at least 50. the president told the crowd today he thinks the cleanup aca happy quickly. >> you look at the neighborhoods and we just rode through this and yesterday they had water and today it's all swept up and cleaned up. they say two years, three years, i think because this is texas, you'll probably do it in six months. i have a feeling, you know. [ cheers ] >> here's the reality, though. flood waters are receding but
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the damage is staggering. pregnancies now trash on the we're in lake charles, louisiana. ryan tell us about who the president met on this trip. >> the president spent the day meeting with a variety of different people from all walks of this tragedy including people waiting to go back into their homes. he met with military members. here in lake charles, he met with louisianans who once went through hurricane katrina. this national guard behind me was one of the staging areas for the troops to helped,
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particularly in east texas which was hard hit. he also met with the volunteer group of folks who got in their trucks and boats and came to the aid of so many of those people who were in need of help me. the big message from the president today, ana was that the federal government will be there to help, and not just after the flood waters recede, but for the months and perhaps years that it takes before this recovery is complete. one of the things he promised today that she is beginning the process of requesting billions of dollars of aid from congress. that work will begin next week. the president wanting to make sure he's going to be there to help them for the long haul. >> thank you. meanwhile we have other breaking news out of north korea. the regime now claims its able to attach a hydrogen bomb to an intercontinental ballistic missile. pictures were sent out today. this is apparently of kim
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jong-un a short time ago showing the leader npinspecting the new weapon. u.s. officials have not confirmed that north korea has this new capability or that these pictures are authentic. i want to bring in cnn's ian lee in south korea. he's joining us from seoul. this is latest provocative move from the regime. >> yeah. significant development, ana, if it turns out to be true that they are able to put a hydrogen bomb on top of an intercontinental ballistic missile, an icbm, for experts for a while now have wondering when they would reach this stage. this comes a lot sooner than most experts has predicted that they would have this capability. but what they also say, is that they have capability of making many more. so we're waiting to hear any
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response from the americans, from the south koreans to this latest development. experts on both sides, japanese, americans, south koreans, are going to be studying these pictures very carefully to see if they are authentic, what they can glean from them, but also, ana, this comes as president moon of south korea and president trump have a phone call they said they want to put more economic and diplomatic pressure on north korea so that they abandon their nuclear program but from these pictures it doesn't look like that's working. >> ian lee in seoul. thank you. i want to bring in jonathan crystal. jonathan how much credence should we give this new claim? >> i think there are a lot of ifs here. without question north korea would like to develop such a weapon, but we don't know if they have the capability to put any sort of nuclear device onto an intercontinental ballistic
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missile. we don't know if they are able to fire that missile with the degree of accuracy. we don't know if it would be able to survive reswentry, and don't know if they have a hydrogen bomb. i don't think the hydrogen bomb really changes the political situation around it, doesn't change the policy a their capab destroy a significant part of an american city wouldn't change based on the science behind the weapon itself. there's a psychological element there, but it doesn't change the political aspect of it. >> did do those pictures surprise you? >> it does surprise me a little bit that they are making the claim, particularly so soon after the missile flyover of japan. >> which happened on tuesday. >> right. seems like they're ramping up more quickly than i or a lot of people would have thought. it also comes on the heel of president trump's statement about the south korean u.s.
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trade agreement that he's thinking about withdrawing from that. and so while it may not have been timed for that, it is part of the north korean strategy to create tension between the u.s. and south korea and show the divisions in policies on a wide range of issues. >> let me read you a statement from north korea kcna, their state runn state-run media. we will take a more powerful counteraction. what are me to take of that? >> i think they are once again trying to show that if the u.s. launches a military strike of some kind that they will retaliate with some kofrt devastating force. the reality is that it doesn't take this particular weapon to
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mount a credible deterrent capability on the part of north korea. there are artillery which can produce tens of thousands at minimum casualtie south korea, their ability to target u.s. forces in south korea, and in japan as well as that country. really makes it very difficult for the u.s. to have any sort of serious military option against them. they know that. and they're kind of sticking it to us a little bit and saying, look, you might be talking the talk about this, but we're going to keep needling you and showing you what we're capable of, and what are you really going to do about it. >> the president this week saying maybe the time for talking is not the answer is his direct quote. jonathan crystal, thank you for giving us your expertise and helping us assess the situation. the justice department announced they have found no evidence to backup president trump's claims that trump tower was wire tapped by president
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mccarthyism. in another, president trump called obama a, quote, bad or sick guy. the white house has never said what president trump was basing these claims on only that the president was confident. let's discuss this. joining us cnn presidential historian and time mag contributor. >> i don't think it surprises anyone. jim comey testified before the house intelligence committee committee he had no knowledge whatsoever of any wire tapping at the direction of the obama administration of the trump transition team. it sort of confirms what we already know. it should be noted, though, that the report did say by the fbi that they would not confirm or deny anything that was top secret and that involved national security. so there's a sort of little mini loophole to say if there is any existing wire tapes that have to do with national security, those
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would not be disclosed in this case. it's not that surprising, frankly. a lot of trump's claims don't end up turning out to be true. his crowd sizes weren't bigger than obama's in 2012. melania did plagiarize that speech. he did fire jim comey because of the russia investigation. so this isn't that surprising. >> tim, you're a historian. when you think barks can you compare that situation where the doj is directly contradicting the president? >> i can't. the historical precedent i want to talk about has to do with the president's ability to find out if someone has wire tapped someone else. the reason why president trump's tweet was never credible was that as president of the united states he has every right to ask the fbi to give him a list of
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the requests for national security wiretaps. >> it didn't take an investigation. >> he could have requested it. we don't know why he thought this happened, but let's say somebody whispered in his ear what turned out to be bad information, he could have immediately requested from the fbi a list and could have determined it. he didn't have to tweet to the world and accuse his predecessor. maybe we can understand this better by looking at what had happened just before the tweet. march 1st, "the washington post" reported that there had been two undisclosed meetings or at least one between jeff sessions and a representative of the russian government. this led to jeff sessions recusal on march 2nd or 3rd. donald trump was angry. donald trump was worried. donald trump sends out a tweet
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that deflects from the bad news he's getting on the russia front. that tweet resulted in a lot of spent time and a lot of words with people talking about how this would be horrible if the president had done it, the former president. >> it would be a federal crime, right? >> but it wasn't credible at the time. i'm not saying that presidents haven't done this. i know they have. but the world has changed since the '70s. you have to work through the fiza court. so president obama would have had to go to the fbi and request for the fbi to go to the court which works means all kinds of people would have heard about it, you would have had all kinds of documents. we don't have that kind of system where a president can order a wiretap on someone. it's just not the way it was in the '90s. it's not credible in terms of
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the structure of wire tapping and it doesn't make sense because he could have requested the actual information. he's allowed to see that as president of the united states. >> a lot of people saying this is not surprising information. it doesn't move the ball forward in terms of the conclusion, but jay, what tim just brought up was the timing the attorney general jeff sessions involvement in sparking this emotion, this rage inside the president. he's made it clear he's not happy with attorney general jeff sessions. and we know he doesn't like that sessions recused himself from the russia investigation, and the "washington post" reported that president trump asked sessions about dropping the federal case into former sheriff joe arpaio, which led to the pardoning of him. now the doj led by sessions still says president trump's claims of wire tapping are completely false. do you think the president will fire the attorney general? >> well, certainly jeff sessions has been on thin ice for months
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now. he's been clearing out enormous amounts of his staff and there's been a huge amount of turnover and turmoil in this white house. you have to have some continuity in this time. jeff sessions has been able to cling to his job so we'll see if he continues to live on. i do agree with tim, by the way, that a lot of this is just donald trump and he's got this amazing ability to wag the dog. instead of talking about health care reform. instead of talking about hurricane harvey last weekend, a lot of people spent time talking about the pardoning of sheriff joe arpaio or the transgender ban at the pentagon. he's good at using these tweets to kind of really draw the
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public attention away from policy and from serious issues of what's going on and focus them on completely side show things. >> jane newton small and tim, thank you for joining us. the hidden dangerous lurking in harvey flood waters from snakes to chemistry and debris. our cnn crew is on the ground with a public health warning. it's time for the biggest sale of the year with the new sleep number 360 smart bed. it senses and automatically adjusts on both sides. the new 360 smart bed is part of our biggest sale of the year where all beds are on sale. and right now save 50% on the labor day limited edition bed, plus 36 month financing. ends monday! when heartburn hits
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coliform. as many in houston return to see what's lefts of their flooded homes, they could be
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exposed to health risks in the waters. streets remain filled with a toxic stew of chemicals, sewage and debris. officials are warning the water could be the biggest threat to public health at this time. i want to bring in senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. elizabeth, you had a chance to test the water. you were collecting water samples. what did you learn? >> ana, we went out on these waters with folks from a professional testing lab here in houston. we did sampling in three different part of this little area. here's what we found. when they looked at e. coli, the first sample had 8,600 cfus. the second sample, 3,700 a, and the third sample, 6,300. and the folks at the labs tell us that this is way above the epa standards for recreational
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standards. let's take a look at the coliform that also indicates fee cal bacteria. the concern that the folks at this lab had was not just for fecal bacteria, but when you get numbers like that it increases the likelihood there's something called vibrio vulnificus. they're concerned it could be here and they're concerned about what that means for people who send hours waiting in these waters. >> it's not just the bacteria. there could be chemicals, all kinds of things that are potential hazards. when you think about what else could be in the flood waters, what is the message? what does it mean for people? what do they need to do? >> it's interesting.
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our test results showed this. it did not show anything of concern for either chemicals or for heavy metals like arsenic or lead. the worry is for people who are immune compromised or in federal government that could be a serious health concern. but even for very healthy people, if they have a cut in their skin and it's large enough and the bacteria gets into it and it doesn't get cleaned out quickly enough, it could be a life threatening infection and that concerns the doctors we spoke with. >> meantime, i saw from some of your video and the crews out there, it's just not what you can't see in the water. here we have video of those fire ants. >> i know, it's pretty horrorifying. we saw snakes.
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those are obviously something that you would want to avoid. so that's why officials keep saying stay out of the water. i've seen families walking through this water. they say it's the only way to get to their homes. when i told an official about this, he said they shouldn't go to their homes if they have to wade in the water. you just can't see anything. you just don't know what's lurking underneath whether it's e. coli bacteria or an alligator. >> that gets me, no doubt. thank you for that important information. hurricane harvey took a devastating toll on many families. but i want to tell you the story of one houston family. six members of the salva the car family drowned when their van was as we wanted off the road as they tried to escape the rising flood waters. two great grand pafrpts and four great grandchildren ages 16, 14, 8, and 6, all perished.
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one of the sons of that family was able to get out of the van as it disappeared under the water. twunts water receded and the van was found with the family inside, another son, rick, talked with alisyn camerota about their unimaginable loss. >> i see your hall of photos. tell me about some of them. >> this is mom when she was younger. she sent this picture to her mother, actually. that's what's written there. >> beautiful. >> dad was in the air force. >> this is during the the korean war? >> yes. >> when you knew the hurricane was heading here, your family came up with a plan? >> the day before i said what are you planning on doing? and he said that i'm going to stay up and if the water starts coming up, i'll put them in my truck and take them to your house. >> but then something went wrong with that plan.
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what happened? >> i fell asleep. my wife was texting with him. he said he was on his way. he sent us a voicemail, which we didn't hear because we fell asleep. he said i fell asleep, the water's in the house. >> it's just me. i guess we got to get out of here. the water's already coming in the house. all right. i don't know where we're going. okay. bye-bye. >> so then when he realized he had fallen asleep, it was too late. the water was encroaching on their house? >> yes. >> effected he could still get out. >> we called by brother. just get the keys, you can get in the house and clean up and whatever and you can take them though rick's house. that was the plan. so sam actually got in the house and dried up mom and dad's clothes, put them in the dryer,
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made them some breakfast, and then he got everybody in the van. at the same time, danny said could you go across the street because his grandkids were across the street. and sam said yeah, i can do that. i told him if you're going to leave, you better leave now because that neighborhood flooded and it's going to get bad and you better get over here now. so had he put them in the van and he was coming this way. and after that, i don't know, it was 9:00 or 10:00 in the morning, we lost contact with him for about two hours. nobody knew where sammy was. >> how did you find out what had happened across that bridge? >> well, my sister-in-law called me and said that -- she was hysterical and said sammy lost control of the van and mom and dad are gone and my kids are
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gone. what are you talking about? what happened? sammy lost control of the van and it went in the bayou and everybody's gone. i got a hold of sammy. he was barely able to talk and he was saying that he was going down lay road. or green river lay road, i'm not sure. they came up to a bridge and the bridge was overflowing. but dad said, go, you can make it, i can see the guardrail, go. sammy -- you listen to your dad, you know. dad was real demanding even at 84 years old. so he went, you know. i said, i can't see myself doing anything different. dad told me to go, i would have tried to make it. of course, like anybody else, he panicked. he said we're under water.
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and he got out of the van and didn't take off his seat belt. the window was halfway open. he grabbed a branch or twig. and the kids were screaming. he can her them screaming and crying. they wanted out of the van. and he kept yelling at them climb out the back. get out the backdoor. >> as that is one of the most heart breaking parts of this incredibly heart-breaking story is that your brother witnessed it all happening. >> yes. the van going down, knowing his parents are in it, his great nieces and nephews are in it. our brother danny and his grandkids. >> how did you get the word today that they had actually found the van? >> danny called me and said his son, andrew, found the van by
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himself. i don't know if he had anybody else. he just told me andrew was there. and he could see the van under the water. >> and he told you they had found the bodies? >> yeah. well, basically i knew then. they said a diver went down and they could see two adults in the front seat and they couldn't see in the back of the van. >> and so you were very close with your parents. >> oh, yes, all of us were. >> to lose them so suddenly is -- >> yeah. >> a bigger challenge? >> yes, but at their age, you start getting ready for it. you start keeping little messages that dad puts on your phone. >> but you wanted a memento of your parents? >> i wanted to hear like he was calling me on the phone. sorry. yeah, i just want to hear dad. >> so many people around the country and around the world have heard your story.
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it's really just gripped the whole country. >> my neighbors came over and gay gave me a hug. they can't imagine going through something else, you know. i told the lives i'm just so glad you saved my brother. i didn't want to lose my brother. >> it's heart wrerchlds to hear that story. our thanks to alson for sharing that. thoughts and prayers with that family for healing. we'll be back in a moment. how much money do you think you'll need in retirement? then we found out how many years that money would last them. how long do you think we'll keep -- oooooohhh! you stopped!
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now. the president and the first lady just touched down at joint base andrews in married name as they returned from their trip to the storm ravaged area in texas and louisiana where they spent much of the day visiting with first responders, elected officials and most importantly perhaps with victims of the hurricane that happened in houston, a city that was just ravaged. again, live pictures here at joint base andrews as the president and first lady return to the white house. texans have stepped up in a big way to help victims of hurricane harvey. but today they got a chance to do it while enjoying america's pasttime, baseball. the astros donated and partnered with major league baseball to do not all the parking and ticket revenue from this weekend's three-game series against the the texas rangers.
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nick, at any astros have been excited to give back to their ci city. what are the players saying about today's game. >> for a lot of people, ana, this is the first normal thing they've done since the hurricane. and the players understand that this is in a lot of ways a distraction for the people of this city who've been through so much. we were in the clubhouse earlier before the first game of todayose double header. we spoke to a starter wearing cleats that are signed by some of the youngest victims of hurricane harvey in honor of what they went through and to show solidarity with the victims. >> it's cool to see how the whole city has come together, even the people from louisiana and people flying to contribute and do their part. i bought a pair of white cleats and let the kids design them and i said you guys are going to
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design them for me. if you want to sign your name or draw a picture on their, put whatever you want. i feel for these people. i'm going to go out and going to run through a wall for this city if i have to. i'll do anything i can to hopefully make these people feel better for a few hours before they go back to their situations and lives. >> our crew has been here all week, and i think it's safe to say this is the most that we've seen this many people smile. they've gone through really just so much. they astros won the first game of the double header. they meant on a show 12-8. we caught up with some of the fans with their predictions. >> we're excited to get back with the community and have a little fun and get behind the boys a little bit. >> i wanted to bring some joy today. that's why we're here.
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>> a return to something normal. >> something normal. to bring it back to the fundamentals of what life is about. just joy or hope. >> let's us get back to a bit of normalcy after everything that happened. >> this is the most we've seen people smile in houston in the last week. >> yeah. >> i mentioned that first game was a win for the astros. something that was striking to us, the pitcher for the new york mets in today's game, his name, matt harvey. the astros chased him out of the game. it was the shortest start of his career. right now the score is tied 0-0, but the fans optimistic they'll pull another win out today. >> any update on how much money they've raised today? >> so far we haven't had a chance to talk to the astros about that, but we know all those proceeds from the parking are going here. we've seen a lot of people stream into the game. there was a lot of empty seats as well. i mentioned a lot of people are getting back to normal here, but a lot of people are still going through it.
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ana? >> going to a baseball game was the last thing on a lot of people's minds who are trying to get their lives back together. nick, thank you. nice to see the silver lining to what's happening in houston. we'll be right back. clothing and shoes. and up to 70% off on outdoor life for him and simply styled for her! plus hot deals on jeans for kids, starting at 8.99. hurry - sale ends september 4th. at holiday inn express, we can't guarantee that you'll be able to contain yourself at our breakfast bar. morning, egg white omelet. sup lady bacon! fruit, there it is! but we can guarantee that you'll get the best price when you book with us. holiday inn express. be the readiest.
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is it salt lake city police department is apologizes after an officer arrested a nurse who was following hospital protocol. it was caught on body cam video and we have this crazy story. >> the disturbing video comes from the inside of an emergency
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room. the woman screaming a burn unit nurse being arrested by a salt lake city police officer. >> you're hurting me. >> then walk. >> the incident captured by police and hospital cameras happened in july. but now the district attorney says he wants a criminal investigation. >> if she doesn't -- >> alex wubbels says she was just doing her job, following protocol by refusing to let police take a be glad sample from an unconscious patient. detective jeff pane demanded a blood draw from a car crash victim. wubbels's calmly explains the policy for obtaining blood. >> three things that allow us to do that are if you have an electronic warrant or patient consent. you have neither of those things.
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she gets her supervisor on the phone who wbacks her up. the tension only escalates. >> sir, you're making a huge mistake right now. because you're threatening a nurse. >> okay. we're done. we're done. you're under arrest. police chi said what happened was unacceptable. >> i was alarmed by what i saw in the video. i want to be very clear. we take this very seriously. >> for now wubls isn't file a lawsuit. >> i feel very strongly in giving people the benefit of the doubt, and i truly believe that he was honest in his apology and sincere in his willingness to try and make change and make things better. >> police released her without charges that day after she sat in the police car for 20 minutes. detective pain said in a written report that his watch commander
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advised him to arrest the nurse for interfering with a police investigation. he and another officer now on administrative lee as internal investigators look into this startling incident. >> our thanks to dan simon for that reporting. coming up, the untold story of how agents brought down a chinese hacker selling u.s. secrets on the black market. a preview of tonight's new episode of declassified is next. when heartburn hits fight back fast with tums chewy bites. fast relief in every bite. crunchy outside. chewy inside. tum tum tum tum tums chewy bites. i expect a lifetime guarantee. and so should you. on struts, brakes, shocks. does he turn everything to gold? not everything. at midas we're always a touch better. book an appointment at midas.com l'oreal's lash paradise. creating a buzz. a soft wavy bristle brush for a feathery-soft lash experience.
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when they discovered what was going on, u.s. authorities were shocked. a hacker in china selling u.s. defense software to rival nations and even terrorist groups. here is a preview of tonight's brand-new episode of declassified. >> january lee was highly responsive. he was extremely attentive to customer relations. he would do whatever we needed him to do as long as we first paid him the money.
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that's the thing we noticed about him is he was all about the money. >> so he downloaded the programs on to our lop top. we knew out to san jose, looked at a company and figured out this was a working copy of their program. again, he had cracked the license file to make it work. this software tested the structural integrity of airplanes of spacecraft, crack 99 was selling it as if it was, you know, a microsoft office suite. >> i was becoming increasingly concerned about the implications of the are crack 99 operation. the biggest question for all of us where did this come from? how did he get it? >> we didn't know if crack 99 was a large number of people hacking into u.s. servers. we didn't know if he had in-house crackers, meaning people who crack the licensing file to enable access to the software. >> i had no idea who i was
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communicating with, the originator, or if it was one of hundreds of sales recommends. >> it's an overseas target who is particularly difficult to identify because he's operating on the internet and is anonymous. >> joining us now, former federal prosecutor david lock hall. he helped lead the investigation into this cyber pirate. i can't even believe that one of the client's of this hacker's black market was a defense contractor who was working on the software used on the presidential marine one helicopter. >> that's true. he was an engineer and a chief scientist for a defense contractor, and he acquired software from crack 99 and he was, in fact, working on radar software for marine one. >> how did you figure this out? >> well, we figured out who the customers were -- who the customers of crack 99 were
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through a search warrant on the e-mail accounts used by the operator of crack 99. >> now, you say lee was the only software pirate lured from china to the u.s. for prosecution. how did you lure him to the u.s.? >> well, we had an 18-month undercover investigation involving hsi agents and dci s agents, and through that investigation we became -- we acquired software from crack 99 and became pretty good customers of january lee. and ultimately we told him that we thought that he could do better in the united states, that his pricing was too low. we could help him with that. and then we proposed a meeting on the western pacific island of sigh pan so discuss that. and he met us there. >> tell me about what has been described as the riskiest moment in this urchd cover at a hotel
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north of guam. >> we did meet with jang lee in a hotel on sigh pan and contact with the target is always the riskiest element of an undercover investigation because even though we had an 18-month relationship, we didn't really know exactly what he was thinking, and there's always the threat of a violent reaction from a target during a contact like that. >> well, we look forward to the episode. it sounds fascinating. david lock hall, thank you very much for your time. and of course, everybody should tune in for this new episode. it is declassified. it's coming up next right here on cnn. that's going to do it for me tonight. i really appreciate you being with me. i'll be back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern. have a great night.
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we are living in a cyber age, and it's the new theater of operations for the military and really for all of us. the future is now. i mean, what's happened is over the course of time hardware has given over to software, military functions are being performed by software that used to be performed by people. if an adversary wanted to harm the u.s., the use of stolen u.s. software could be helpful in doing that. many of us don't fully understand how digital our age really has become. for example, digital methods are used to control all kinds of

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