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on state tv. she announced the nuclear test. >> she's one of the most familiar faces, has been on the air for 40 years nearly there in the country. >> we're going to continue the conversation, and all things politics. thank you for sharing your morning with us. "inside politics" with john king starts right now. \s a major provocation from north korea. pyongyang conducts a nuclear test and claims progress on a smaller warhead for its long-range missiles. plus an up-close look at harvey's impact and an emphatic promise. >> we're going to keep it going that way. i don't know if it gets better, but we're going to try to make it better. and back to work in washington, tax reform, knew riggsa meddling wrinkles, and a
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major initiative. >> we love the dreamers, thank you very much. the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters, now. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. to our viewers around the world, thank you for sharing your sunday. north korea says it has successfully tested a hydrogen bomb, rattles its neighbors in asia. just moments ago president trump responding on twitter, writing north korea has conducted a major nuclear test. their words and actions continue to be hostile and dangerous to the united states. plus the president gets an up-close look at harvey's impacts, saluted the spirit of the victims and those lending a hand, and the president promising the first installment of billions from washington will be coming soon. >> we're signing a lot of
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documents on monday. 7.9 billion. we signed it and now it's going through a hopefully quick process. >> can the dreamers stay? or will president trump at the time young undocumented immigrants he's kicking them out out? a long-promised decision on a controversial obama-era executive action. >> what about the dreamers, people who came here with the children? >> it's a tough situation, but they have to be legal. >> do they have to leave? >> they're with that parents? it depends. it sounds cold and hard. we have a country, our country is going to hell. we have to have a system where people are legally in our country. we begin this morning with breaking news. north korea's latest provocation to the world, a nuclear weapons test in pyongyang. will ripley is standing by in tokyo. he's just out of north korea. first kim jong-un inspected what
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he said was a small warhead that's capable of delivering a nuclear warhead. now give us the latest. >> when i was in pyongyang, it seemed that things were calming down, but when i saw their leader inspecting a miniaturized warhead, i started to get nervous here in tokyo, and later the 6.3 earthquake, the strongest ever created by a north korean nuclear test. last year was a 5.3, even a second seismic event in the mountains pet nuclear test site, some believing it might have been a tunnel collapse resulting from the size of this explosion estimated by seismologists in norway as 120 kill own tons, in perspective, 15 kiloton was the bomb here in hiroshima. other have a slight her smaller
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estimate. unless it's the biggest bomb they have tested yet, like the one they laurchled in twice, north korea also just testing an intermediate range ballistic missile last week on tuesday flying it over hokkaido here in northern japan. north korea is sending a defiant message to president trump and the united states. despite the fiery rhetoric and the military exercises that wrapped up last week and the show of force after that missile launch, fighters jets from the u.s., north korea not backing down and they're continuing to test these weapons of mass destruction at a frenzied pace and they refuse to accept the united states claims that north korea will not be a nuclear power. they say they must recognized as a nuclear power, and the pressure will only prompt them to develop further. north korea is not afraid by
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threats that perhaps china could punish the regime economically. they say they survived the great famine in 1990s, and yet the regime stayed firmly in control during that time, and they continued to launch missiles, north korea is more self-sufficient today than it really has ever been. no signs of this de-escalating it anytime soon, the fourth test sing he took power in 2011. >> will ripley live for us in tokyo, thanks, we'll keep in touch. south korea south korea was among the first nations to condemn the blast, the south korean for president calling it aban surmistake. paula hancock is in seoul. south koreans are obviously the closest to this, and it's fascinating to watch the rhetoric of the south korean government. >> reporter: absolutely moon jae-in came in saying he wants
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dialogue. he may still feel that way, but certainly the dialogue is much stronger at this point. he spoke about the absurd strategic mistake that's going to further isolate north korea from the international community. we know the joint chiefs of staff chairman and from south korea have phone twice on the phone, talking about what kind of combined military measures they could carry out. could we see another show of force or bombers flying across the peninsula. up to this point, it hasn't seemed to have an effect. i think there will be surprise and raise ed eyebrows. and talking about appeasement of t t the north koreans. and james mattis saying there's
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still ways of doing diplomacy, which makes people close to the border much more relieved. they don't want military conflict, knowing just how catastrophic it would be. john? >> paula just mentioned the president tweeting this morning one not likely to be well received in south korea. here are some of president's tweets, saying north korea is a rogue nation. and as paula just noted, south korea is finding, that their talk of appeasement will not work. they only understand once thing. general joseph dunford has been on the phone with his south korean counterpart. let's get perspective from admia adadmiral john kirby. north korea says it has a smaller warhead to put on an
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icbm. how did that affect the conversation. >> certainly this test, the size of it increases the sense of urgency, not that there hadn't already been a sense of urgency, but clearly the size of this. they will try to confirm that, and that will certainly drive a new level of discussions about possible actions in the short term. i think the ambassador should be involved in those discussions, i would expect an emergency says of the u.n. security council, and sanctionings maybe increasing sanctions that are already in place. from a military perspective, i would suspect that the u.s. and south korean combined forces in an alliance, ena demonstrable show of force like flying aircraft or and perhaps including some sort of exercises on the ground, some sort of
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quickly called and quickly executed missile defense exercises, something like that. i think you'll see a military response to this, but thirdly, you hit on it, john, it's important to figure out a way forward diplomatically. this does not change -- this test does not change fundamentally the situation on the pet anyone lan than yesterday, it reinforces for us the knowledge that kim jong-un, a, wants to develop a nuclear ballistic missile program and is not likely to be deterred, and there's no initiative for him to talk. he has the momentum and he's not going to give that up. that doesn't mean there won't by diplomatic for that measures to be pursued. >> admiral john corily, we appreciate it. thank you for sharing your insights. michael sharon, and cnn's sara murray.
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you heard the admiral saying there could be exercises with south korea and the united states, and japan likely to take part, but we've seen these repeatedly. last week the president has been tweeting that the u.s. has been paying extortion money for 25 years, talking is not the answer. that was the answer a couple days ago. how does this change his dynamic? the policymakers can bring a long list of options, because anything you do. the fear is north korea will then launch an attack on seoul. these options we've known for years are horrible, but what is the president's mind-set when kim jong-un possession him. >> his reaction is to lash out. he was lashing out add china, blaming them for thought having solved the problem for him, and now he seems to be trying to lash out at south korea, trying to lay the blame on them.
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that's obviously an alliance that we need to be in very good shape to deal with this problem, but over and over, you know, he lashes out on twitter, he lashes out at our allies, he tries to get someone else to solve the problem. it's possibility there's no creative options, but we are not seeing some dramatic new approach arise out of this president's imagination. >> the president is in a situation that is as tricky as any president has encountered, more so because north korea has advanced its capability and resolve. the president says north korea has -- that one thing is probably strength. what does strength mean? a military option? that's a very dangerous option, if it means sanctions, draconian enough, you're going to hit the north korean people. that's the trick. you can do targeted ones when you talk about leaders who care about their assets overseas, but
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when you're a herm country, how can you actually target those leaders in a way where they release control? it hasn't worked in north korea, it could probably work without hurting the population, so what strength is is not the traditional definition of strepgt. that's why everybody is stuck right now. >> and is strength undermining your closest ally south korea? yes, he was elected on a platform of diplomacy, but in recent weeks he's been out in front of trump in more aggressive rhetoric. the south korean president has already moved and shifted. >> i was struck by the push and pull evident in those tweets. the first two weeks sounded like maybe general kelly's influence, a kind of typical leader, saying
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kind of cautious things in the wake of this dramatic nuclear development, and then the third tweet in which he, as molly said, couldn't help himself lash out. i think that's kind of been on display since that flurry of really aggressive rhetoric. i do think the question is, you know, how does the president manifest this debate going on inside the administration about all of the bad options. one last point, that's going to set the stage for the united nations general assembly later this month which the entire world's leaders assemble in new york. >> but they talk. >> they talk. >> they talk, as will ripley smartly noted north korea thinking it has the initiative right now. what's the circuit breaker. if diplomacy is the only answer unless we want a horrible and ugly war, the north korean regime is not going to say -- the trump administration is we will not sit down unless you say the conversation is about you giving up your nuclear program
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and your missile program. how do you break that? >> there was some belief of some close to trump if you're talking about fire and fury, making is seems like you're very serious, that would be more likely to bring north korea to the table, that would be more likely to send the signal that the united states is serious about striking back, and so now is the time for diplomacy. obviously that has not worked out. we have seen this latest missile test, so i think they're going back, scrambling and looking at options again. what's fascinating when you look at the president's tweets is the notion of going after north korea instead of china. he's been so critical about what china has done or failed to do in order to keep north korea in check. it's fascinating to me this morning he woke up, presumably was briefed at some point on the situation, though the white house as not confirmed who he's been meeting with this morning and he decided the country to
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take aim at was south korea, not china, who has pretty much propped up the economy of the north korea. interesting perspective. we'll continue to watch it. more details and reaction. up next, the president in the spotlight as his administration responds to the devastation caused by hurricane and tropical storm harvey. end yu money to cover repairs and - -they took forever to pay you, right? no, i got paid right away, but, at the very end of it all, my agent- -wouldn't even call you back, right? no, she called to see if i was happy, but, if i wasn't happy with my claim experience, for any reason... ...they'd give me my money back, no questions asked. can you believe that? no. the claim satisfaction guarantee, only from allstate. switching to allstate is worth it. i kept looking for ways to manage my symptoms. i thought i was doing okay. then it hit me... managing was all i was doing. when i told my doctor,
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quell cowelcome back. >> i want to congratulation the governor, i want to congratulation everybody who has worked so hard. it's been an incredible five days, six days. really i think people appreciate what's been done. it's been done efficiently and very well. we've happy with the way everything is going. there's a lot of love. >> reporter: what did the family tell you earlier? >> just a lot of happiness. it's been nice. it's been a wonderful thing. as tough as this was, it's been a wonderful thing. >> the federal response gets relatively high marks during the first ten days, but the biggest test is still to come. in 27 trillion gallons of water over just six days.
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as of this morning, the death toll attributed to harvey stands at 53. some areas are still flooded, others beginning to clean up, and a tally to what it will take to repair. gas prices up 24 cents a gallon, an impact well beyond the flood zone. the full price tag won't by known, being president trump is calling for $7.85 billion. early indications there's bipartisan support for moving that package quickly. >> i'll give you another congratulations. in about one week, and then it's a long term. we're talking about -- they say two years, three years. i think because this is texas you'll probably do it in six months, i have a feeling. [ cheers and applause ] >> no, i think for a lot of places maybe it never gets done. i think in your case it will get done have i quickly.
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>> upbeat talk from the president? some people were looking for more empathy or consoling, you saw him at the nrg. high marks i think for the initial response. the big question is, do they understand the scope of the hall getting in fema trailers and other supplies, helping with the rebuilding, inevitably there would be some hiccup in the system, but where is the president right now? >> well, he's back. he's promises things that he hasn't really -- that we don't know he can deliver at this point, particularly the funding package, which there seems to be political will, so it will get tangled up in the deadlines. are they going to attach that funding to raising the debt limit as an example in order to ease that portion of the difficul difficulty. this is a complex process, and you had the president standing there making it sound easy and that it was pretty much already done.
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the reality is a lot colder and harder than that. it is a long-term process and there's a lot that has to go into it. the department that's charged with managing it, homeland security, which is in charge of fema, still doesn't have a directoids. >> one of the things the president said in that clip that the texas will get it done in six months. i remember traveling with president obama in the summer of 2009 for his first trip to new orleans, where he wanted to talk about katrina recovery. that's four years after katrina. the reporting that i did at the time suggested that people were still frustrated, still upset there was too much red tape. you know, the idea that this is going to happen quickly is simply ridiculous. ultimately the question is, is this an administration -- it really it hasn't demonstrated the sophisticated handling of
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bureaucracy. >> you say the democrat congresswoman with ted cruz, two people who don't talk here in washington. inevitably when there are mistake, because mistakes will be made in something so big, do they have in place the initial team response? good marks? are they ready for the long haul? >> that's a question, this is a long test, for an administration that's been disorganized, but trump says weird things when he goes to the united states. he's not great at showing emotion, empathy. people voted for him in spite of that, because they thought he was a good manager. if you're judging empirically based on the response so far, texas is tag they're getting what they need. the people in those shelters came up to the camera to say they're taking good care of us. they deserve good marks. he deserves a good review for this. he was the president.
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he went there, he said comforting things. it's going to take longer than six months, but he went there and said what you need to say to make people feel like you are in it with them. but more importantly the federal government is doing what it needs to do to give them backup and they're asking for the aid package. the griping about the empathy, fine, you can gripe about it, but what people want is to have a shell tore go to. they want to know the federal government will back them up with money so they can get into a home and right now there's every indication that is happening. >> the president will be the one to take it in the gut even if it's congress's fault. as we know members of congress do not exactly have -- they've got short-term attention. >> short-term political ballast. >> exactly. when you get far out and other things happen, there's other priors that come along, and it becomes more different to keep the pace and trent of that aid package flowing, and at that
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point congress will take the blame, but will the president also end up doing so. >> and will he keep fighting for this, if it seems like the political will is evaporating. >> down the road. down the road when conservatives say, yes, we want to help these people, about you we have to cut somewhere else. eventually they're going to say now though, to texas, and that's a perfectly fair conversation. the question is how does the president handle it. >> and if the president doesn't have that of leverage over congress to be able to shame them into doing something he wants them to do. >> this is going through agencies and taking multiple layers of bureaucracy, and on it's about on how much do you keep focused on the program. what you had with katrina is a burst of attention, empathy and
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money and then just a mess that festered and festered because they weren't focused on it in a sustained way. there wasn't a proactivity in a sustained way to make sure that actually everybody got taken care of. >> we'll see if the lessons are learned from here in washington, the presidential and across the administration level. up next, the white house confusion, and fresh complaints the retooled white house team as well? just not right. midas has a lifetime guarantee on these parts. that's right. on things like struts, brakes, shocks. all kinds of automobile parts. [king] guaranteed for life. does he turn everything to gold? [kinbrakes. not everything. [kinbrakes. not everything. [kinstruts. luckily, he's not a dog person. [kinshocks. luckily, he's not a dog person. at midas we're always a touch better with limited lifetime guarantees on select parts, complimentary courtesy checks and more. book an appointment at midas.com lash sensational full fan effect mascara be sensational!
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president trump plans to do with the so-called dreamers, who are currently allowed to stay and get work permits under an an obama administration executive action. >> we will immediately term nail president obama's two illegal executive agencies in which he describe the federal law and constitutional to, 5 million illegal immigrants. then on friday, this from the president. >> sometimes. >> we love the dreamers, we love everything. thank you. we'll issue it sometime over the weekend, maybe this afternoon. >> a little while after that
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event, now, such chaos the dreamers debate one big issue, an the administration -- and as we ever month 8, even there's a more disciplines, steve bannon was forced out, and that is, as we wait tuesday's decision, that's the fascinating part for me. you have the scorn, the outside forces heap on what they call the manhattan democrats, so the dreamer decision, which is a big dealing impacted by this, a lot of nervouses in, about what the president is going to do, and the bigger battle, which continues today. >> where is the president himself? because this was something he promised during the campaign,
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though he did also express in less scripted comments more sympathy for this population. he always seemed conflicted about it, but this is something he could have done on day one if he really want to do do it. there was an executive order drarded and on his desk, and he just wouldn't sign it. over and over again, he had him expressing sympathy whenever asked, we have to protect these kids, they seem like good kids, and he's really been the only thing in the way of this, as the hard-liners in the administration, stephen miller, steve bannon, jeff sessions, were all in favor of ending this, to it will be treadly political unpopular. it was just him seeming to want to not do anything about this, and his hand has been forced, because this deadline has been imposed by the laws brought by the attorneys general.
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you have to come in under the age of 16, meaning you're too young to make that decision. and obviously you can't be convicted of a felony or multiple misdemeanor offenses. >> these are the people directly affected, but they have parents and siblings and others. there's millions of people kind of affected directly by this. they're debating it inside the white house, is there an escape for trump by pushing this back to congress and saying, look, i'm ending these programs in whatever sort of phaseout not because of the policy, but because of the way it was done. you saw him talk about the illegal executive action, it was the wrong way to do this, and then to kick it back to congress, saying you guys were the ones who rejected the idea of doing this in a legislative
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way with the dreamers, that that didn't past, try again. and you saw paul ryan and others -- others suggesting maybe this time arrange there's a will to do that. >> let's listen to paul ryan. he gave a radio interview. you mentioned the debt ceiling, on a spending plan, they don't want to poison the well. number two, and paul ryan is trying to not have that ditch dug deeper by the president of the united states. let's listen. >> i don't think he should do that. i believing this something that congress has to fix. i think the president as well as mentioned that he wants a humane solution to this problem. i think it's something we in congress are working on and need to deliver on. >> can they? the republican congress could not repeal and replace obamacare. it's nowhere on tax reform.
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the congress has to deal with these spending issues, debt kretz and now a harvey aid package. >> the democratic congress couldn't even do a controversial bill, and granted you had republicans control of the house then. it's not these kids, the way it was done, we don't want obama running rough shod with executive orders, but the theoretical ideal bumps heads massively with the reality, which is that you cannot do stand-alone immigration bills, people have tried time and time again and you have reps who do not like the idea of this one going out ahead of we have to security the border first. if they put this on the floor, it will go ahead loaded up with other immigration-related things and it will die. trump at that point will not be
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able to say i tried, because it's such a sympathetic issue. >> you recover the white house every day. you see steve bannon on the outsaid he's surrounded by globalists. that's kind of criticizing the president. listen to mark levine on the road the other day. >> mr. president, look around the oval office, look around the white house. where are all the conservatives? where are the people who supported you in the campaign? so president trump does himself a disservice, i believe, when the diversity of opinion is between a liberal democrat from manhattan and a liberal democrat from queens. there needs to be more diversity of opinion that inclusion more consieve tiffs or he's going to harm himself and his administration. >> harvey the past ten days has blocked out the conversation about these things, about you when congress comes back, this is a stew about the president
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that his own base is stirring p up. >> first, some of these are gone, but some of them aren't. immigration is a great place to see that trump hasn't actually abandoned his base in any way on this issue. we are talking about what's going on with daca, that's a huge decision. some republicans i think would be fine with lets the kids stay here, others want them out, but we have seen an immigration crackdown throughout the country that really hasn't gotten much attention. this is the president living up to his campaign promises. acting director of i.c.e. has been unapologetic about yes, they are targeting people who have committed other crimes, but they believe coming to the u.s. is a crime and if they find you, they will deport you. >> now it look lie theant won't get the wall money, at least in the short term, because of harvey. the president's anger at the
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from donald f. mcgahn, who believes the meandering tone was problematic. what we learned here is we don't know where this ends, but when you look at these accounts and other accounts, it's crystal clear that mueller is spending a lot of time on this question. this is not about what happened on 2016 or what trump associates might have been done, but did the president of the suns fire james comey as a broader obstruction scheme form the attorney are trying to go to bob mueller that no, sir, you don't have a case. >> that's not something you do unless you're feeling the heat. the lawyers wouldn't be making this argument unless they feel it needed to be made. we don't know a lot about what's going on, but we know it's an aggressive, serious and wide-ranging investigation. we know that mueller is working with the new york attorney general, with the i.r.s., there
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are all kinds of directions that this is going in, and eventually something is going to come out of it, right? , this is not the drip drip drip that adds up to anything, it seems to be moving pretty quickly. this is a pretty direction -- the nothing that the president fired james comey, because he felt like james comb yes what too hard was laughable even when they were trying to sell us that from the white house and days later the president did an interview on television and said the russia situation was on his mind when he made this decision to fire comey. so they tripped all over themselves as they were doing this in the moment, and then obviously that decision led james comey to want to leak his memos about his conversations with the president to ensure that a special prosecutor was -- >> and the own deputy attorney general had to turn the level over, the original letter drafted by stephen miller, the
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white house says no, no, no, they hasn't it over to the justice department, but the draft still exists and now mueller las it. >> the question is what was in the president's mind, what is the motive, something written contemporaneously on paper is always a critical piece of that kind of investigation. >> don mcgahn was probably delighted to see that. >> probably wishes he could have shredded it. the justice department filed this -- both the fbi and nsd confirm they have no records related to wiretaps as described by the march tweets, those are the infamous tweets that obama wiretapped trump tower. the justice department has to say, no, sorry, wrong, it didn't happen. >> hopefully that's the final nail in the coffin on that story. this is just going towards -- if they're saying, no, this wasn't credible what he's saying on twitter about this investigation, it does leave
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lawsuit, but what about the united states attorney general? the department of justice denies that jeff sessions has played any role in what the attorneys general are doing, but he has spoken approvingly about it. a lot of people involved in this issue in and out of the administration suspect that actually the attorney general is sort of behind of scenes encouraging this action that has sort of hemmed the president in. obviously jeff sessions a very hard-line voice on immigration in the administration as he was in the senate, and he's part of this push-and-pull that's happening between the immigration hawks and immigration doves in the battle for sort of donald trump's soul on immigration. >> looking forward to that. corinne. >> congress is coming back into town. now russia is being overshadowed by any number of things -- daca,
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north korea, all the budget battles, and of course harvey. and we're entering a phase where trump's inner circle is coming to talk to members on the senate side for the first time. members of the intelligence committee, and don junior is coming in to talk about that meeting this month, so it could be interesting to watch people closely when the world isn't watching closely. they may show their sympathies more when the cameras aren't quite as focused on that probe. >> missing a bit, but not forgotten. >> right. tomorrow in buena vista, virginia is the annual labor day parade, which for the last 40 years as served as the unofficial kickoff for the governor's race in virginia. virginia and new jersey are the only two off-psych the
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governorgoverno governorors races, so it would provide a clue about what voters are thinking about the craziness from the last six, eight months. this is an opportunity to get an early sense of how the midterm election next year will go. >> tight race so far. sara? >> we know this is a president who needs to vent, sometimes publicly on twitter, sometimes privately. cnn, my colleagues broke the short this week that keith shiller is likely to depart the white house. that's one less moderate hand, so keep an eye on the president's mood, his frame of mind as he's sort of hemmed in by the constraits that john kelly is putting on him at the same time he's losing another person that was a trusted aide and a sawning board for him in the west wing.
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>> we'll see in chaos moderates, escalate. michael bloomberg's war on the big gulp is getting expensive, even if places where he's already won. the former new york city mayor in recent days added more money to what is a $5 million ad to repeal the soda tax. that spending in chicago follows $2 million to shore up politicians for taking heat for backing a similar tax in philadelphia. this is a continuing showdown between bloomberg and the industry. to send a message to other cities still considering that tax. that's it for today on "inside politics." we're also here weekdays at noon eastern. up next "state of the union" and an interview with greg abbott. have a great sunday. ve in food s naturally beautiful and fresh.
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hello, i'm dana bash in washington, where the state of our union is threatened. breaking news this morning, north korea claiming it successfully tested a hydrogen bomb, the sixth test of a nuclear weapon by the rogue nation and first since president trump took office. north korea state media is calling the test a, quote, perfect success. this comes just hours after a
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