of hurricane irma. >> we're looking at the a storm just as strong as harvey was when he made landfall. >> this is "new day," with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day." chris is off. john berman. >> good to be here. breaking news north korea may be moving an intercontinental ballistic missile in preparation for yet another launch. this is according to a south korean lawmaker briefed by their intelligence service. and this morning, new warnings from north korea, threatening to "blow up" the u.s. mainland and annihilate americans. >> meanwhile russian president vladimir putin trying to fill the leadership void. the russian leader warning its escalating crisis could cause a global catastrophe. he says sanctions against north korea are useless and ineffective as the trump administration announce the end of protection for d.r.e.a.m.ers and congress returns to a long list and tight deadlines. with the global resources of krpen covering all of this,

let's begin with will ripley live in tokyo. you just return from your 14th trip to north korea with all of this going on. >> reporter: john the impression i got from the north koreans this is not a country that is backing down. this is not a country that is afraid but it is defiant and furious with the united states and ready to back up their fiery rhetoric with action and there are indications according to south korean lawmakers and intelligence officials north korea is moving an intercontinental ballistic missile to a location along the korean coast, with a trajectory over japan like last week or fire a missile in a more southerly protra jectry targeting the pacific ocean including potentially the u.s. territory of guam, home to 160,000 american citizens, andersen air force base, naval base, guam. north korea said they'd conduct a missile test near guam, not threatening to attack guam but extremely unsettling and

provocative for the u.s. the threat in north korean state media talks about the nuclear test over the weekend their most powerful test to date t says "the great success of the h bomb test which stunned the world reflects the faith and will of the dprk and people to blow up the u.s. mainland and annihilate the wolfish u.s. imperialists running amuck to cut off the lifeline of the dprk." fiery rhetoric we've heard before from north korea but never before north korea with a weapon like this. here in japan scientists are saying they believe this bomb that blew up over the weekend is the strength of the bombs dropped on hiroshima and nagasaki combined, all of this, john, as russian president vladimir putin warns of an impending global catastrophe with many, many victims if there's not a shift in strategy by the united states. >> will ripley in tokyo, thanks a lot. south korea by the way conducting a second day of live fire drills at sea, vowing to destroy and bury the north if provoked but there are a growing

concern about the strained relations between president trump and south korea's leader. paula hancocks live in seoul for us this morning with that. paula? >> reporter: hello john. this was the second live fire drill in two days. south korea is making a point here. this one was at sea, it was a naval live fire drill. there was a 2500ton frigot, patrol boats, guided missile ships. it was a large and intensive live fire drill. they're giving us images of course they want north korea to see exactly what they have done and the quote that they came up within the statement is interesting, wherever it is, on our underwater if north korea provokes we will immediately destroy them and bury them at sea. now that is the kind of phrase that north korea could be proud of, but this is coming from south korea now. we heard on monday as well a statement from the defense ministry saying that their live fire drills are showing a willingness to be able to destroy the enemy's leadership,

so some very strong words and actions coming from the south korean side at this point. finally we know that the u.s. president did pick up the phone and speak to south korean president moon jae-in. there was concern that hadn't happened since the nuclear test, and they both agreed that they will do everything in their power to stop north korea. alisyn? >> paw larula thank you for tha reporting. u.s. ambassador to the u.n. saying enough is enough telling the u.n. security council gym jong-un is "begging for war." what can the international community do to stop the threat? barbara starr is live at the pentagon, what is the latest there? >> good morning, alisyn. nikki haley very much pressing the case at the united nations that the time has come for being as tough as possible on diplomatic action on sanctions. but then nicky hakki haley went with a fairly dire warning. >> his abusive use of missiles

and his nuclear threats show that he is begging to are war. war is never something the united states wants. we don't want it now, but our country's patience is not unlimited. >> president trump largely staying publicly quiet on this, tweeting after his phone call the guidance with german leader angela merkel all options remain on the table. the president later today is likely to see north korea come up again and again. he will have an intelligence briefing. he will meet with his national security advisers later in the day with his economic advisers in another phone call, this time with the australian leader also scheduled. here at the pentagon watching to see if the u.s. decides to deploy any additional military assets to the region for a show of force, but so far, no word yet. alisyn? john?

>> barbara, thank you very much for the update from there. joining us now to discuss all of this, we have cnn military and diplomatic analyst retired rear admiral john kirby and cnn political and national security analyst and national security correspondent for the "new york times" david sanger. david, we want to start with you and you have some new reporting obviously emergency meeting of the u.n. security council, they were discussing where to up the antewith sanctions, including fuel sanctions. what have you learned? >> the next u.s. move on sanctions, and probably the last move on sanctions is to try to cut off all of north korea's fuel, heating oil, and so forth. now, north korea gets about 95 to 100% of its fuel from china, so if you don't get the chinese cooperation with this, president trump would have basically two options. one is begin to do sanctions on

chinese institutions, banks and so forth, that would lead to a big breach with one of our biggest trading partners, and would obviously cause a lot of economic pain here as well. the second option would be to try to figure out a way to turn off north korea's oil inside north korea, and that would take sabotage, cyber, some combination of events like that. we haven't heard any discussion yet of how they would go do that, but certainly it's fascinating that they're using a technique that the united states last used against japan in 1941, when it cut off most of japan's oil imports. >> david, before we move on past this subject, you say these are all possibilities and being discussed but seems pretty far-fetched you could get china to agree to stop selling any and all oil to north korea, seems more far-fetched that the u.s. would engage in some military options to sabotage the fuel source there. >> well, on the first point,

john, i think pressing the chinese on this makes the point of how serious the u.s. is, that all trade with north korea has to stop under these conditions. i agree with you, the chinese have never shown a willingness to do something that could lead to the collapse of the regime, and this would be one of those. on the fuel side, inside north korea, it raises a big issue, because of course the united states has been trying to set some standards so that nobody ever uses cyber or other means to try to turn off energy supplies here, so doing it inside north korea would be extremely difficult, i agree. >> john kirby, what do you think of those options? >> i agree with david. the sabotage aspect is certainly something that i think would have to be on the table but it would be very, very difficult. this is a closed society. eight not open to the rest of the world, and not that it's impossible to do those kinds of things but very difficult and of course there's precedent setting there as well. on the oil thing with china, you

have to also remember that the southern provinces in china that are all along that border with north korea, their economies are very much dependent on trade with the north and some of that comes from oil as well, so china would also be willing, have to be willing to take a major hit locally in their own southern economy, and they have i.t.erto be hitherto been unwilling to do it. frankly what needs to happen is largely speaking the administration needs to sit down with beijing behind closed doors and try to work some of this out in the context of larger bilateral issues. china is not going to change their calculus with respect to north korea being ail buffer state unless we incentivize them to do exactly that, realize it's in their national security interests, the chinese national security interests for something to be done about the north's program. >> we keep on saying something to be done about the north's program though, admiral, north korea has nuclear weapons now, and just tested its most power

of nuclear device. they may be getting to launch another intercontinental ballistic missile. they have it. kim jong-un is achieving what he set out to achieve so what is the goal then for the u.s., admiral? >> i absolutely agree, john. i think general hayden said this the other day, except they are a nuclear armed state and give them that credit and then get them to the negotiating table at some point but you're not going to get them to the table unless china is on board and russia, too, but mostly china. they have no incentive right now to talk because as you rightly point out they have advanced this program now faster than anybody thought they could and they are moving inexorablely toward nuclear capability. learn to accept that and go from there at the table and try to regulate that, put some bounds around that, try to contain that and maybe over time diminish it. i don't see any chance of sort of stopping it in its tracks now. >> david, how about the

relationship between the u.s. and south korea? obviously friends and allies for decades, now where are we? >> we're in a pretty frac, point here, alisyn, because the president's determination to move ahead with trying to pull out of the trade agreement with south korea, which was passed in part to help bolster the security relationship is really eroding the degree of trust, and of course the president said during the campaign and interviews with me and with others that he would be willing to pull american troops out of south korea if they weren't contributing more economically. he is to the defense effort. he has not said that since he's become president. but these two things have sowed some distrust. i wanted to go back to john's very important point out there about coming to an acceptance of the north korean nuclear program. there are many people who think

we need to go do that. that has been north korea's goal all along, to basically become what pakistan has become, a country that we basically accept now, has nuclear weapons outside of the nuclear nonproliferation treaty and when i asked people in the administration, are you willing to make that move, just as we would ask this question during the obama administration, the answer has unanimously been no, that the goal is denuclearization of the korean peninsula. far-fetched as this may seem at this point, so it's interesting the administration is not backing off on that issue. >> admiral, you discussed with me last night room to maneuver, space to maneuver here both in military terms and diplomatic terms. >> right. >> your fear that space on both sides may be this vinking. >> every time the president says all options orren the table he's really saying military options are what i'm thinking about and whenever he does that, whenever the rhetoric ratchets up like we saw with the "begging for war"

comment with nikki haley he closes down his space to achieve a diplomatic outcome and the same has happened he's pushing you saw from let's reporting a few minutes ago pushing pyongyang into ever increasingly smaller space in terms of decision and maneuver. again i don't think they have an incentive right now to negotiate but i think there's still room for diplomacy. i want to piggyback on david. denuclearization of the peninsula is the appropriate outcome over time. that horse has left the barn right now, and the only way to get it back in the barn is to i think start from acceptance that they have this capability, and then try over time and it could take years to negotiate it down to regulate it, and to eliminate it, if at all. but i just don't, i think starting with well, they're never, we're never going to accept them having this capability, i just think that that's polyannish at this point. >> gentlemen, thank you for the expertise and sharing your reporting with us, david and john kirby, thank you.

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in less than three hours the trump administration's expected to end the program that protects d.r.e.a.m.ers from deportation, but the president is ultimately leaving the fate of those d.r.e.a.m.ers some 800,000 in the hands of congress. cnn's joe johns live from the white house, with the very latest. joe? >> reporter: john, the president seemingly has struggled with this issue for months, and this is it apparently. decision day. the attorney general expected to make the announcement at a briefing later today. though there is still a sense of drama surrounding this, even thousand, because sources have told cnn the president could still even in this late in the process change his mind. president trump taking to twitter monday night touting a big week ahead.

gross understatement considering the wide range of issues on the president's plate, starting with today's announcement on the fate of so-called d.r.e.a.m.ers. the president is expected to end the obama era program created through executive order, protecting some 800,000 young undocumented immigrants from being deported. >> d.r.e.a.m.ers here to say! >> are this possibility drawing backlash from both sides of the aisle. >> what i hope the president says tomorrow is that he supports the policy of the daca program and wants congress to pass it into law. >> to end the daca program is one of the most cruel and ugly decisions ever made in the modern history of this country by a president. >> reporter: but the president promised during the campaign that he would end protections for d.r.e.a.m.ers, attorneys general from ten states threatened to sue if trump does not announce repeal of the policy by today. sources tell cnn the president will punt the fate of

d.r.e.a.m.ers to congress, delaying the enforcement for six months, so that lawmakers can pass legislation to address the status of those affected. >> there's a lot of support for programs like this. i'm not as pessimistic as some people. i think we can get this done in the next six months. >> the "new york times" is reporting president trump asked aides for a way out, comparing trump's approach on d.r.e.a.m.ers to president obama's first promise as president to close guantanamo bay, which he was not able to accomplish. congress returns today to a daunting to-do list with a limited time frame to get anything done. the most challenging tasks include passing a spending bill with or without money for a border wall, republicans looking for a complete overhaul of the tax code, the first in three decades, emergency funding for victims of hurricane harvey, a bill to raise the debt ceiling is expected, and possibly another try at repealing obamacare. and there is not a lot of time to get that spending bill to

keep the government from shutting down, only 12 legislative days before september 30th. we do expect to see the president this afternoon around 4:00 eastern time meeting with key members of congress as well as top administration officials to talk about taxes. alisyn? >> yes, the clock is ticking, joe. you're right. thank you very much for the update from the white house. joining us now is democratic congressman henry cuellar of it ex-text, co-chairs the blue dog coalition. congressman thank you for being here. >> thank you so much. >> from where you sit this morning knowing the challenges of immigration reform and the tight deadline, what do you think is going to happen to these 300 -- to these 800,000 d.r.e.a.m.ers? >> first of all, i think your story said it well. the to do list for congress is tremendous. owe only have a few days to get this done, a lot before september 30th and remember at the end of september 30th, the budget rules special budget rules for trying to repeal the

obamacare also leaves so a lot of things will happen this month of september. my state of texas also followed, joined the lawsuit to get rid of the d.r.e.a.m.ers which is a mistake. i've seen immigration reform for the last 12 years that i've seen here and it's one of the most emotional issues that i've seen on the side of the republican party, and i think what's going to happen if the president delays this for six months, it's going to make it difficult and i hope we can pass the d.r.e.a.m. act and i'll do everything possible but it's going to cause in my opinion a civil war within the republican party. >> because you think that you've heard so many people that have like polar opposite feelings about this? >> without a doubt. i mean, i know my colleagues on the floor very well. i've heard their words. their words some of them anti-immigrant folks are very strong, without mentioning names

i think you've seen some of them, and then on the other side you got some republicans that want to do the right thing, and then you're going to have the ones in the middle that are going to be pooled by the third parties that will go after them, if you vote for amnesty and as you know that's a buzzword any time people want to do immigration they use the word amnesty as a buzzword to make it difficult on the moderate republicans to do the right thing. >> so it sounds like you don't know that the 800,000 d.r.e.a.m.ers will be here six months from now? >> well, i am hoping that we can do everything that we can. i'm going to do everything, i'm going to support like i've always done the 800,000 individuals. when you think about it, there are 800,000 people got here not because of them but because of the actions of parents. >> sure. >> they're registered. they've been given background, fingerprinting, they meet educational sometimes military requirements. >> yes. >> they've done everything right, and to get rid of that, that's a large impact to our economy, but more importantly,

think about the brain power of 800,000 well-educated young folks, what that means for the united states. we're just shooting ourselves in the foot if we don't do this right. >> congressman, look, you called the people who oppose this anti-immigrant. they would say these conservatives like jeff sessions say, would say you must have a rule of law in this country. we are a country of laws. we are a country of borders. if you flout the law, you can't be rewarded. >> yes, but keep in mind, i understand that, but keep in mind when they have a chance to actually vote on an immigration reform, they won't do it. that's what i'm talking about is, i live on the border. i live on the border and i see this every single day. i know what it is to live on the border. i drink the water, i breathe the air there. i don't just go in for five minutes and leave. i've lived there all my life and i believe in law and order and i want to make sure that we follow the rules but at the same time what we have an opportunity,

when we have an opportunity to vote on an immigration bill, what happens since i've been here the last 12 years the senate has passed two immigration reform bills, what has the house done? nothing. nothing at all because we can't get our house members, some of them want, to but we just can't get the house to vote on it. two immigration bills passed from the senate and we still haven't done it ourselves. >> very, very quickly, in terms of compromise, in order to keep the d.r.e.a.m.ers here, would you be willing to vote for money to pay for president trump's border wall? >> no. they are two separate thing. the wall is the 14th century solution to a 21st century situation we have. are we going to still insist on putting money for the wall, where we have harvey that's going to cost us billions of dollars in texas? no. what i want to see is sensible border security. make sure we have electronics, cameras, sensors, the right mixture of personnel, make sure that we work with our neighbors

to the south, mexico and central america, to hold off as many people from coming over. we got to be smart on how we secure the border, instead of just coming up with a 14th century solution called the wall. >> congressman, while i have you here we've been talking so much this morning about north korea, and what the solution is to north korea. we just had two very knowledgeable guests on, david sanger from the "new york times," who has new reporting on sort of the behind the scenes dealings as well as john kirby formerly of the pentagon. they have spoken to experts saying maybe it's time to accept that north korea is a nuclear power, accept that that is true, stop fighting it, and then go to the table with kim jong-un from that position. are you ready to accept that that's where we are with north korea? >> you know, i'm not there yet, and i sat on the defense appropriations, i sit on homeland, so i deal with fema and some of the issues that we have here, but also on defense appropriations, you know, we've heard from our experts and it's

difficult, because the options are not very nice. they can actually be very ugly. the pain that can be inflicted to south korea as we go after north korea can be there. i do know that if we are adding sanctions, what else can we sanction? are we going to focus on petroleum? are we going to focus on energy? about 90% of all the trade north korea has is china. china is going to be key. china will be key and if we don't get to that part, we're not going to be able to sanction anything else, if china doesn't play a role, and then we got to look at those options. >> congressman cuellar thanks for your time. great to have you on "new day." >> thank you so much. president trump threatening to stop trade with some major partners if they keep working with north korea so that a viable plan? a debate you do not want to miss, that's next. why do you do it? it's not just a pay check,

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united states is considering in addition to all other options stopping all trade with any country doing business with north korea. in case you didn't know that means china. the president didn't explicitly say it but it means china. will it work? we want to discuss with former white house communications director jen psaki and former senior economic adviser to the trump campaign stephen moore. stephen, to you, cut off all trade with china if they don't step up. is that an empty threat? >> i hope not. i think it's exactly the right thing to do. we cannot live with the option that you discussed on your earlier panel of just allowing north korea to have a nuclear weapon. that is crazy talk. it is dangerous to the world. last night, john, i watched the reagan documentary on cnn, and it was amazing, you know, how reagan was able to win the cold war without firing a shot and the reduction in nuclear arms was a great victory. here we are 30 years later talking about letting a lunatic,

tie r tyrant who starves to death his own people to have a nuclear weapon. there is only one way to stop it, that is china. china facilitated and accommodated the north korea nuclear program. they are the only country who can put a stop to it and trump should basically say to the chinese leaders, you bring an end to this or you're not a member of the civilized world and we can't trade with you. >> jen psaki, u.s. trade with china, $170 billion in exports, $480 billion in imports. realistic at all? >> well look, i think a cardinal rule of diplomacy is don't make a threat you can't possible deliver on, because it will have dramatic consequences on your own country, and it's not even viable to cut off trade with china, as you mentioned we do a significant amount of trade with china. they are our biggest creditor in the world and in addition to that, it would have a dramatic impact on the cost of products for consumers.

we import a large number of low-cost goods from china, so this is an empty threat, that's how it's being perceived in the region and people in the region are starting to question whether trump has similar objects of north korea which is to divide the united states from many of our important allies in the region, south korea and swra pan as it relates to the north korea threat. >> we'll talk more about that -- >> let' say one thing about that. >> go ahead, stephen. >> i am the biggest proponent of free trade around. i understand what john is talking about but this is a critical moment for the world. we have a crazy man who has a nuclear weapon that could destroy you know potentially parts of japan, parts of south korea. we don't know how far they could launch these missiles. this cannot stand, and we should use -- jen i don't think this is an empty threat. i think trump should be hard line. if you want to be a member of the civilized world you bring an end to the north korea nuclear program. what is wrong with that

position? i mean we, china needs us a lot more than we need them in terms of trade. >> well, stephen, first i think we agree that this is probably the biggest threat that we're facing as a country, that's something president obama conveyed to president trump and regardless of party, you should agree on that. >> right. >> i think the issue here i don't know the economics all tied to each other is china has different objectives than the united states. >> that's right. >> china doesn't want to see a denuclearized. >> they don't exactly. >> they don't want to see a united country. >> exactly. >> should we launch threats via twitter, sitting down deciding determining with china whether there's a diplomatic effort could be undertaken here and that's something many people of both parties, many people who have been working on this issue for a long time would like to see. >> i think you guys agree -- hang on, let me get one question in. i think you both agree china should be involved here and that china is perhaps crucial to fixing this problem. >> right. >> so jen, how do you get china to do what you want it to do?

>> well look i, think there have been secondary sanctions undertaken. there's clearly more that can happen along those lines, the secretary of treasury talked about that but ultimately we're going to have to sit down at a table with them, president trump, his diplomatic team is going to have to sit down at a table with china. they don't have the same objectives as we do, as it relates to north korea. so we can't assume that making threats is going to make them change their behavior, and that's the point i was making. >> stephen, you were weighing in on our diplomatic and military discussion earlier about whether or not there needs to be acceptance that north korea has nuclear weapons. do you dispute at this point that they clearly have the capability, they have the weapons and they know how to use them? >> no. that's the problem, right? you're exactly right. they have these nuclear weapons. this cannot stand. the world cannot go on with nuclear weapons in the hands of a madman. it has to be stopped, and look, i think -- >> stopped or removed? stopped as in no more testing or

somehow get them to give up what they already have? >> both. they have to give up what they already have and the way this happens is the one country that can stop this is china. finger on the problem, china wants north korea to have a nuclear weapon. they have facilitated the program and it wouldn't exist if it weren't for china's cooperation in this. i think we have a moral high ground and basically going to china saying bring this to a stop. you want to be a member of the civilized world now, you want to be a world class power, and yet you're facilitating the greatest threat on the planet. i just think it's outrageous and i'm a free trader but if i were trump i'd just say the trade with china stops until you bring an end to this program. if they say no, they're not a member of the civilized world. eight that simple. >> jen psaki, any way to get north korea to give up again what they already apparently have? >> well look, i think north korea has not just capacity that's greater than what we had last year but they also have increased their rhetoric so yes we don't know, we don't have the

intelligence to know exactly where all of their facilities are, so that is a huge problem. it's similar to what our issue was with iran. they also have the ability to create these weapons that they didn't have a couple of years ago. so can they give it up? there's leverage we have, there's things they want like military exercises, our military presence in south korea. should that be on the table? there are some people who think that should be considered. >> all right, jen psaki, stephen moore, fascinating discussion. thanks so much. >> thank you. john, another big story we're following, hurricane irma bearing down on the caribbean and florida. chad myers has the latest forecast models for us next. day 13. if only this were as easy as saving $600

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hurricane irma gaining strength now a category 4 storm, packing winds of 150 miles per hour. irma is now bearing down on the caribbean. it's also posing a threat to millions in flar, orida so peop are stocking up on water and supplies. cnn meteorologist chad myers has the latest forecast, what are the models doing now, chad? >> still taking it either north of cuba or right over cuba. two different models one the european, the gfs, the american model we look at. all we can do is look at what the modeling can say to us. what the hurricane hunter has said in the past ten minutes it found a wind gust above 7,000 feet high 186 miles per hour,

186. even though that's 7,000 feet, that is still a wow! kind of number. there is the eye, it's perfectly symmetrical. this storm is still growing, likely to be a cat 5, although that is not the forecast. i believe you find 186 aloft you're probably going to have to upgrade it. we'll see, i don't care. doesn't matter if it's 150 or 157, there's no difference. an anguilla, dangerous of aen eye wall hit at 150 miles per hour that devastates whatever island it is, and it moves up to the florida keelz as a cat 4. it will interact with cuba a little bit, that will take some of the guts out of the storm and get dry air into it so it's not 155. the closer it is, the slower it gets. maybe 120. the farther away it gets, 50, 80 miles, it still could be cat 4 as it approaches south florida. here is the american model and if you take out a little bit of something, you put a little bit of something else, we get something called the ensemble.

this is the same model running with a couple different ingredients, all of them very, very close to florida. one to the east, two here and one to the west here, with he'll see what that kz loo like heloo we exact them close to key west, isle marauda and straight up the florida peninsula, tremendous stan damage if they get this storm over florida. five days away. you need to prepare now. it's not too late. right now is the time to get ready. >> very good warning for us, chad, thank you for showing us the models. they do look frightening. >> all those lines making landfall in the united states. now we have a cnn exclusive separate intensifying russia investigations exposing signs of tension between special counsel robert mueller's team and capitol hill investigators. cnn's evan perez is live in washington with this eye-opening exclusive. evan? >> reporter: good morning, john. with three investigations in congress and one criminal probe

led by special counsel robert mueller, there would be complications, lawyers working for the mueller team asked the senate intelligence committee for a transcript of the staff interview with paul man aare the to, the former trump campaign chairman. manafort's lawyers blocked that request, mueller's office claimed they were given consent prompting a brief fight over what they were authorized to have. manafort is denying any wrongdoing in this case. congressional sources though tell us that the practice of allowing key figures in the russia investigations to testify behind closed doors is part of the issue here. if that testimony happens in public, then mueller's investigators can use those statements without going through lawyers. now for their part, congressional investigators are now looking to obtain a letter drafted by president trump's aides to explain why he was firing former fbi director james

comey. mueller already has that letter, a spokesman for mueller by the way declined to comment for this story. >> the fbi raid on paul manafort's home, that, too, has caused some kind of a legal battle here. what happened? >> well, we're told by sources that the fbi agents who conducted the raid actually carried away documents that manafort's lawyers considered to be protective by attorney/client privilege, that prompted a stern letter from wilmer hale, the law foirm at the time representing manafort and the documents got returned. this happens from time to time in nfbi investigations, typicaly you have a team that's specifically designed to look at these types of documents but you always have a concern here whether investigators saw material that they were not entitled to see. >> evan, also congress back today we're expecting a busy few months on these investigations, what do you expect to see? >> well, exactly.

we know that the three committees in congress are looking into this issue and now have 20,000 documents, john, in their hands, and now senators and members of congress are returning back from their vacations, and they're going to start going through all of those documents. we know that one of the things that they're specifically concerned about is that proposal that emerged in the past few weeks involving the former trump lawyer michael cohen, and whether or not the, whether or not this led to anything more behind the scenes in the trump campaign. we know that all three committees want to know more about this. we expect that cohen and others will be called to testify in the next, in the coming weeks. >> that's on top of everything else congress is trying to get done this fall. evan perez in washington thanks so much. >> thanks. john, they are called d.r.e.a.m.ers, they came to america as children but could be forced to leave the u.s. if congress cannot find a solution. so we will speak to two people

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nearly 800,000 d.r.e.a.m.ers in america this morning do not know their fate. the trump administration is expected to end the program that propects them from deportation opini within six months. >> joining us now are two d.r.e.a.m.ers. we're happy to have both of you here today to el us how you're feeling. let me start with you. when you heard the announcement from the white house that the daca, d.r.e.a.m.er program was going to change and be over in the next six months, how did you feel? >> i was upset. and angry. i think there was a fight that we'll work really hard to get and to be in this situation is

really difficult. >> and how would your life change? you are a mom of four children? and so if you cannot stay in the u.s., what happens? >> well i'm -- my husband and i, we -- we're a team. he's the one that supports the household. i take care of the kids. if it i were to be deported, definitely it's going to put a burden on our family. i'm the one that volunteers in the school. very active in the community with my kids along, and think that if i wasn't going to be able to be here with them to be able to walk them through, it's going to be very breaking for them. >> angel, you've called the pocket of this terrifying. what do you mean? >> mm-hmm. i think it's terrifying that we can be so easily betrayed by the government asking us to give so

much information that we thad to give to be accepted into daca and have it turned around on a very exceptional group of people. >> i want ask you about that because when you heard the idea there was going to be this daca program and d.r.e.a.m.ers like you brought here at 4 years old were going to be protected? did you have second thoughts about giving information to the government? >> yeah. it was a very significant discussion that my parents had to have with me at the time. i was 17 at the time. that was kind of the first big conversation that i had to have with my parents about my legal residency here and the status. it was a risk. it was a risk that meant giving up exactly where i live, where i was going to be working, was going to be something that was had to be turned over also.

>> and did you not know, your status until you had that conversation with your parents? >> i think the first time i actually figured out my status was when i was in elementary school, i was going into middle school. i almost got a scholarship for some private schools, and everything was good to go until i needed a social security number on the file, and then that's when i figured out what being undocumented really meant. so i think i was about 12. >> you had a moment with speaker paul ryan in january, where he, i think, tried to kind of assuage any of your anxiety that this fate would ever happen to you. let me play this. >> it's clear that if daca gets repealed my baedaughter will lo her mother and i want you to know that daca has helped me.

do you think that i should be deported and many families in my situation should. >> no. first of all, i can see that you love your daughter and you are a nice person with a great future ahead of you. >> i know that comforted you. today, what do you want to tell congress, those lawmakers that are going to be deciding your future? >> i think that it only comfort me in part, and the reason is because after that interview, at that moment when i spoke to paul ryan, he didn't do anything. and i think i was upset at that time because he said it on live tv and said i should not get deported but then congress and him didn't do anything for the last eight months. we're in a situation right now where if they got to this way because they did not act, and i

think that unfortunately, i just hope it's not too late for us. >> angel, what do you want to say to congress and the lawmakers who are going to trying to figure out what the fate of all of you 800,000 d.r.e.a.m.ers are? >> i think that's important to think about the work that the daca population has already put into drem straiting how successful and how good of citizens we are already in this country. i think it's important to give us a little bit of credit for that going into processes, because it's a very humanitarian problem. and that's how it should be thought of, not necessarily just the numbers here and there, but look at us as the people that we are and what we've brought to this country so far. >> have you talked to your children about this? >> i have. >> and they no this is a possibility that you might be

deported? >> yes. >> what do they say? >> um, they want to step in. i remember when i was telling my daughter that one of the things that worries me the most is losing the driver license. i live in a state where a minor traffic violation can put you in the deportation proceedings. i know my daughter came up and said well i have a driving permit now, i can help you with that, and it was -- it's very hard, because you don't -- i want my kids to be kids. i want them to focus on what they should be focusing and not worrying about whether i'm going to come home or not. >> we understand. thank you both for sharing your personal story. obviously we'll be watching very closely what happens over the next six months. thank you for being here. we're following a lot of news, let's get right to it. >> we must put maximum pressure on north korea to change its

policies. >> north korea basically has slapped everyone in the face in the international community. >> we have to find a way of using crushing economic sanctions and diplomacy to solve this problem. >> they will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. in just a matter of hours president trump is expected to end the projections for dreamers. >> these kids don't know any other home. >> daca kids should not be punished for the sins of their parents. >> the texans recover from harvey and florida braces for hurricane irma. >> we're really looking at a major impact here. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. good morning everyone. 8:00 here in the east. john berman joins me. let's get to all of our breaking news.

start with north korea. north korea may be moving an int intercontinental ballistic missile for another launch this week. that's what a south korea law maker tells cnn. north korea is also making new threats this morning saying they will quote blow up the u.s. mainland. >> a second day of live fire exercises at sea. all eyes on the strained relationships. the u.s. ambassador insists jim young un is begging for war. alisyn mentioned it. breaking news on hurricane irma. it just game more powerful, it is now a monster category 5 storm with winds now exceeding 175 miles per hour. pay attention to the forecast. the we're going have that coming up. it is crucial. we have it all covered for you with the global resources of cnn. will ripley live in