part of a lot of people's lives around here. >>reporter: she says she won't rebuild. the others are here to stay. miguel marquez, cnn. hard stories coming out for some time. we cannot forget the need. we're following a lot of news, there is a new advisory on hurricane irma. let's get after it. >> good morning. welcome to your "new day," wednesday september 68:up to 18 miles an hour of sustained wind. the gusts are even higher. puerto rico, dominican republic, haiti, cuba, all in the line of fire. the category 5 storm in the strongest hurricane in the atlantic in a decade.

the impact expected to be catastrophic. it's all about which way it goes. devastating sorm surge, life threatening winds, you know the factors. the question is where. we're watching it closely. >> the storm could hit florida by the weekend. they are declaring a state of emergency. now rushing to stores and lining up at gas stations. joining us now are two americans trapped currently in the hurricane. on the island of go wa da loupe. and she took some video of the storm battering the hotel. with her is her friend rachel. they are on a business trip on the island. ladies, thank you so much for joining us. maybe we can watch your video. what are the conditions like right now? >> right now, we are in our sixth floor hotel room and we're watching a balcony that just broke off of the room up stairs

next door and is hanging on by a thread dangling in the air. it is pouring down rain chlg the wind is howling. most people are in their bathroom or have been moved down stairs to the third floor where management thinks it is a very safe spot. but basically our entire room is under about an inch or two of water. >> but why aren't you guys down on the third floor with everyone? >> we felt safer in our bathroom up here. we have a bathroom with no windows, it's like a secondary room so we talked to the management and we explained the situation in a we didn't have any major breakage in the room in general and we felt safer in the bathroom and they agreed with us that if there was no win doers and no major damage. >> tell us what the continues are like right now around you. >> we can't see out of the balcony. it's all very cloudy.

i can switch the camera and show you. >> yeah. that would be great. >> so that is the balcony hanging in the air. from above us. >> oh. >> hours seems to be okay. down here. it's all full of water. our whole -- our whole place is full of water. >> okay. >> front door barricaded. and the wind is -- >> and so, i mean listen. we can see all that. that definitely looks scary. on a scale of 1 to 10, how nervous are you right now? can you guys still hear me? >> skype -- well. not -- go ahead. are you guys back? >> it doesn't seem to be as bad yet. >> okay. >> i think we were probably --

about an 8 or 9 on the first half of this storm, and it's gotten a little bit -- it's less. >> calmer. i think we're mostly at least for myself mostly concerned about what's to come afterwards from what we saw when we went out during the eye. houses torn apart, trees snapped in half. cars with bricks smashing them in. >> what are they telling you? >> our front door is bending a little bit so we need to make our way to the bathroom shortly. >> yeah. i think you guys should do that. i certainly want you to be safe. i know you heard something crash around you. by all means don't let us stop you. you should take shelter. how long do you think you're gpg to be trapped there? >> they said the storm might go on for another four to six hours, and then, our flights out

today got canceled. got canceled thursday. we booked for friday and some of us have been rebooked for saturday. so i guess it's just depends on the status of the airport and planes and being able to get people out. >> sorry. we had also discussed amongst our group those of us who are in a position might try to see if we can help with some of the recovery effort while we're here. why many it's not very much we can do. it's not like we brought a bunch of tools with me but if we can help out and are in a position to help, we plan on trying to stay, those of us who are able to. >> we have plenty of water, smacks and food. >> okay. guys go. get into the bathroom. if you can, carry us into the bathroom with you. what did you hear just crashing around you? >> the balcony snapped and now it's really hanging on by one little piece of wire. >> okay. walk us in with you if you can. do you have family at home?

back in the states that you've been able to get a hold of? >> my family is in bradenton and sar a sot ta. >> my family is in northport, florida. >> have you been able to get a hold of them and talk to them. >> yes. we face timed with them yesterday and this morning. the we got disconnected earlier because the power went out, and wi-fi was down and we lost everything but we've talked to them. they we're safe, and are hoping that we make it home in one piece after the storm. >> yeah. of course you are. and so, just very quickly, what were you all doing in the country? what kpiemds of business were you doing on a business trip and did you know irma was coming your way? >> we were actually on a fitness retreat. we came here to -- with a

celebrity -- >> hmm. that's a cliff-hanger. okay. we have lost them for the moment. obviously our producers will check back to make sure they are okay. meanwhile, here to update us on the storm's track is the dr. michael brennan. weep checked with you last hour. what do you see now? >> well right now we're seeing the identify of irma has just passed over the islands of st. martin. the eye wall is just cleared part of the island of an -- sustained category 5 winds. during the next few hours we're going to see the eye move generally northwest ward. that's going to catake the core very close to the british islands and near the coast of puerto rico as we get into tonight. >> is it still too far out to be

able to tell where and if it will hit florida? >> well, right now we're expecting a west, northwest ward track and then as we get into the weekend we're expecting irma to gradually turn northward. right now the forecast has a gradual turn with a track near the florida peninsula. but nod models showing track to the left, to the right. this far out, it's -- there's a lot of uncertainty in that timing of that turn, so it's too early to determine exactly where in florida those direct impacts might occur, but everybody there should certainly be monitoring irma's progress and listen to any advise given by the local officials. >> you do this for a living. we've heard this is the most powerful atlantic storm if it you don't count the caribbean. what does irma look like to you? >> irma's a very powerful very dangerous storm. it's a scary sight to see this

type of system. the folks you were talking to, well away from the eye and you can see the impacts they're getting. it's a very dangerous situation for the virgin islands, puerto rico, life-threatening conditions are going to spread across the portions of the greater an tillies and into the bahamas. certainly everybody in florida, the florida keys and peninsula is going to want to keep monitoring. >> it's good to know where they are almost out of it there, our two guests. they are safe in the bathroom. thank you very much for all of the status reports. now to other other story. president trump opening the door f ford.r.e.a.m.ers. how did he do that? he tweeted last night that if congress fails to fix the situation in the next six months, this is a dead line he imposed. this is a situation that he put on congress. he may revisit the issue.

there's the tweet. they have six months. to do something that the obama administration wasn't able to. that was about congress too. how does this all match up with the announcement that the attorney general made about ending the program? joining us now is sara iz gert, flo flores. sara. thank you very much for joining us. >> good morning, chris. >> clear up this one point and then we'll get into what we see happening going forward. attorney general says what obama did with daca was unconstitutional. president trump said if congress doesn't get it done i may revisit this. how can he revisit something that the ag just said is unconstitutional. >> i think both have been clear this is now up to congress. this was about rule of law and rule of law only matters when i'd hard. it doesn't mean you always get to agree with the policy outcomes but it means that the process matters, and when the

president said a constitutional scholar by his own calling there, when he said he didn't have the power or authority to do this and did it anyway, he took the power away from congress. regardless of how you feel how this comes out, you have to understand this is squarely within legislative authority and congress needs to act if they want to fix this. >> but you know how we got here. because they haven't acted. the d.r.e.a.m. act was before 9/11. that's how we got daca. congress not getting it done. >> that's exactly right but when you get frustrated with congress, the pen and phone doesn't work. the last administration was historically overturned unanimously by the supreme court more than any other administration. that means all of the justices agreed that that administration was overstepping its constitutional bounds, its authority given by our founders. >> wasn't daca a split decision? >> by the way that was an administration that had both houses of congress when they

came in. so you can't just get frustrated and decide you're doing it alone. we're seeing that doesn't work. >> you've got both houses now. a party that's deeply divided on this and is more on the enforcement side than on the morality mercy side, and the veem -- i think we're on the rule of law side, chris. >> well, but rule of law is also about enforcement, right? whom do you enforce it against, how? it is an interesting subject to pick thed.r.e.a.m.ers. even the republicans and democrats have agreed from jump that you don't want to punish these minors for the illegal entry perpetrated about i t parents. >> actually the last administration targeted them by creating this false promise. it was never a permanent situation here. and yes, now congress has the chance to act on this. the as they always did. and should have.

the i understand the last administration was frustrated. it doesn't mean you get to make the law up on your own. the district court enjoined this nationwide. so the choice this administration was phased with was let a district court enjoin this nationwide as well, and which the fifth circuit upheld. the supreme court affirmed or have this orderly windown. i think that was the most fair way. i also want to disagree a little bit. it is about how we do things in the country. how we agree to have laws and make rules for everyone. and if we just decide we don't like that process because it's fres straighting, we're not going to like how it works. we have to agree on the rules first: >> it's about changing the rules, right? that's what orr he asking congress to do is make up rules. i don't mean make up meaning that was a pejorative. i mean for them to promulgate law that will rescue these

drooechlers and maybe, maybe go further into immigration reform, which is certainly needed on a systemic level. my question becomes let's say they don't get it done. that's not a cynical suggestion. it is just predicated on what we've seen before. six months come and go. now what? >> well that will be i think the president putting more pressure on congress to do something on this and a number of other issues. we've seen health care. >> hold on let's just deal with in. >> congress has to pick up -- >> if they don't do it in six months, then what? if they say can't get it done, we're just not there. now what? >> i think the president has a lot of tools at his disposal to put more pressure on congress. i think yet what you saw, the department of justice, was a unified message. congress, this is your job. this is the reg slay tiv role to make law. not ours. >> you've created a situation with the six months where there

is going to be a date certain. a what happens after that date certa certain? the answer he'll put more pressure on congress is not going to be found satisfactory to those 800,000 people. >> is unfortunately that's how our system works. the executive branch faithful executes the law but congress has to make the law. that's what the courts held in this case. the president obama was trying to make laws, unfortunately, regardless of how you feel about the policy outcome, this is congress's role. >> what will you do in six months, sara? >> well i would encourage people, chris, you should encourage your viewers to call their congressman and put pressure on them that way but there is nothing the executive branch can do to make this law. they do not make law in the white house. they execute the laws. >> but in six months, will the attorney general start identifying thed.r.e.a.m.ers? will he pass that information along to i.c.e.? will they start proceedings to

remove these people? what happens? you're all about rule of law. the law says if you're not here legal i, you're here illegally and you're supposed to be removed. if you're going to follow the law whether people like it or not -- you're going to have to do something. that's your jurisdiction and mandate. >> to be clear about the role of department of justice, what the department of homeland security said is their enforcement priorities wouldn't change. still targeting trim criminals, violent people here in the communities who are targeting americans and native-born and lawful im grants alike. so those will remain their enforcement priorities but absolutely. this has a six-month window for congress to act. so they should. after that, unfortunately, this policy outcome was set up by the last administration, who made this false promise to these

folks, and it needs to be fixed by the legislative branch. >> this gets konsz fusing because you started out saying it's about the rule of law, but it isn't. it's about how you enforce it. the homeland security agency says it has enforcement priorities. now, revisiting is also something that you're going to have to explain to me, because that is also confusing. if the executive cannot make law as you said several times very forcefully, then what would revisit mean? he said i will revisit, no the i will put more pressure. the president tweeted i will revisit. what are his options? >> well, you can't put a lot of nuance in 140 characters. and i think revisit is a lot shorter than put more pressure. so you'll have to ask the president. >> you were put out by the administration, sara. you're in the hot seat. do you think the president would do something unilaterally to keep the dreamers same from deportation? >> i think that the department

of justice was very clear there was a choice here. you could have a court enjoin this nationwide with sudden effects on all of these folks, or you could have an orderly windown by the department of homeland security over the next six month the giving congress time to act. >> you could str had the attorney general go to the states and ask them to hold the suits in abeyanceabeyance. >> you and i both know that's not how this works. >> certainly, the attorney general could have contacted the states if he wanted 0 to. >> chris, the deadline was the court's deadline. >> but the court deadline is a function of litigation. the litigants are the state's attorneys general. he could have contacted them. they could have been a political accommodation here. >> chris, the judge has set the deadline, not the litigants. >> i know but. >> you'd have to ask the judge for an extension which they had already granted one. you have to ask for an additional one the judge may not have granted. >> may not have.

>> and then you would have this instant nationwide injunction issue, which, looking all of the guests i've had on, i've watched yesterday as well -- you and alisyn put these questions to them which would you have picked between these two and you'll notice they didn't answer. and you'll notice diane feinstein saying this was on shaky legal ground. others saying they thought the court would give this nationwide injunction. which option did they want? this suddenly disappear nationwide or the orderly windown. >> the question becomes what happened after of the or derlly windown. that's where we have a big question. >> i don't think we have a question mark. unfortunately this was uncoops of constitutional before. >> that creates doubt about where thosed.r.e.a.m.ers are going to be. that's probably what motivated the president to -- the last administration created this situation.

unfortunately the pen and phone doesn't work. was we saw when they were reversed more than any other administration in history. >> there's no question it's been legally dubious from jump. nobody's going to argue with that in a very compelling fashion, at least not this morning. but it's also about what are you going to do for these people. this is a moral argument, not just a legal one. sara, thank you for taking it on. i look forward to discussing this with you again. >> thank you. >> okay we're going to discuss all of this right now. you get your wish. cnn political analyst david gregory and common cater peter beinart have both been standing by. peter bine art has a piece in the atlantic about how we got here. with a legal immigration. great to have you. your piece is so comprehensive, so interesting. talking about all the shifting sands and illegal immigration. how some sides have sort of over the past decade crossed, people -- just everybody has sort of reverted to their corners and dug in on illegal

immigration. people used to be more in the middle. what do you think listening to sara talk about how they haven't gotten to the point of what they'll do with t thed.r.e.a.m.ers? they haven't thought about if this means 800,000 people will be deported, taken from the universities and work place. this is just i guess the starting point. >> i mean i have to say, i think this was a cowardly decision by president trump. if he wants to own the fact that these 800,000 people who most americans support, being able to be in the united states because really america is the only country they've known. the if he wants to own destroying their life, then he should own that. instead of basically trying to kick the ball to congress and say it's your responsibility to do something. congress has not acted on this issue for a decade and a half. nothing we've seen in the trump era suggests congress is getting more effective at passing legislation. it's becoming more and more dysfunctional. looks like a man that wants a

certain outcome and doesn't want to take the heat for it. >> let's give sara flores her best argument which is this was going to happen anyway. the court had a date certain. of the attorney general wasn't going to go to the state es attorneys general. it's not that you picked the most sympathetic group, t thed.r.e.a.m.ers to target as your first mode of enforcement, but that he had to. do you agree with in a? >> you're the lawyer, chris, not me. but as i understand it, the court had not ruled. when trump believes in something like the muslim ban, he fights it in the courts and fights it in the courts because he believes in the public policy. so the argument it's unconstitutional seems to me was at best premature and at worst a cop-out for the fact they didn't want to deal with the fact this is something their base wants to do. the immigration was at the core of his agenda, something sessions believes in h. the but trump was waivering.

>> i think peter is making a lot of good points. i don't think president trump should be criticized for holding congress's feet to the fire. i mean whether it's the military authorization to go to war, or whether it's immigration reform, congress has failed to do its job. and the american people are tired of that. the president's not wrong. where i then come back to agreeing with peter is then own it. you're the leader of the republican party. you are the most influential voice on immigration in this country as the president who ran on this. the then drive a position. if you want thesed.r.e.a.m.ers to stay here, if it you are opposed to tearing the social fabric of the country apart, then stand up for something. don't kill this by making it part of comprehensive immigration reform which they have not been able to achieve since president bush started down that road before 9/11.

do a stand aloned.r.e.a.m.er bill. fight that fight and get back president trump to what you do want, which is more security on the border, if you want a border wall and you think you can get it, fight for it. but don't, as peter says don't abdy kate the responsibility. i think this does have to be dealt with one way or the other. it's just that the president, again, it strikes me as a bystander. whi this is a part where he doesn't agree with his more nayivist base. he understands what t thed.r.e.a.m.ers are. he ought to go out and fight for a stand-alone bill which i think is the most likely option to resolve this. >> the fairest criticism seems to be in the facts. the president made a move that he probably doesn't completely understand the implications of. and maybe it was the courts that were being motivated. you're right about his disposition toward litigation. look who they put out this morning. the ag spokesperson, not a

political one. because the law is the simplest part of this. follow the law. but even flores had to admit. the they don't just follow the law. the they have enforcement priorities. not all illegals are the same. then he tweets i'll revisit it. how? >> well we have no idea. i mean i think part of what the strangeness of the trump administration is for a president who came in showing he's so strong, a lot of what we see is the policies being led by different cabinets. we see the defense department, names mattis pursuing a slightly different policy than trump and now we see this looks like it's being driven by the attorney general who has always been very, very hard line on immigration. we don't know. if you want to give trump the most credit, you could imagine this is some kind of strategic move wee he wants the democrat the to compromise. if he really were doing that it would put the democrats in a

tricky position because they desperately want to protect these kids but also oppose a border wall. but i think that's probably giving him too much credit. >> why? maybe, david that is what's going on. it is congress's responsibility to pass legislation about this. the president is saying it's not my responsibility. here you go. everybody know the he wants a board er wall so all of you figure it out. six months, if it you guys can't do your job e then in the art of the deal i'll figure something out. >> but what he's finding, this whole art of the deal approach to politics isn't working out so well for him. you've got to lead, because the problem with congress right now is that it's so fax nalized, you've seen the result on health care, really intractable issues, there's no bridging the divide unless -- and even then it might not work unless the white house is heavily involved. i think what peter is on to is interesting. the sow decentralized the president is, and yet he holds

himself up as this incredibly strong and some areas, the way he talks, when he talks like an authoritarian, this strong central figure. i think that comports with his view of the world that strong leaders in his mind like a vladim vladimir putin are the ones that prevail. now he realizes what the limits are. in part, maggie's report earlier in the morning he didn't quite think through the backlash he would face over this. ultimately he's got to get to a place where he has to put his political capital on the line to achieve a particular result. his own west wing is divided enough maybe he doesn't have the tools to do it on his own. >> gentlemen, thank you very much. look, one the of of the chal js is going to be getting his own party to agree with his position on the situation. like thed.r.e.a.m.ers.

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work the phones, try to find a consensus here. >> all right. that was senator lindsey graham issuing that challenge to the president to help congress pass immigration reform. after the administration announced and end to the program that protectsd.r.e.a.m.ers from deportation. now, the president is tweeting if congress fails, he will have to get involved. the president says congress has six months to legal ease daca, something the obama administration was unable to do. if they cannot, i will revisit this issue. senator lindsey gram joins us now. senator thanks so many for being here. when you say president trump help us, what does that look like? what do you want him to do? >> well i want him to one, define what border security looks like and see if we can do a deal where we secure our border in return we get the dream kid the what they deserve which is to stay in the country they call home.

they know of no other country. make sure we don't have 11 million more illegal immigrants 20 years from now. >> don't we know what the president's border security looks like? it looks like a wall. >> well we do need a wall in certain places but john kelly is probably the smartest guy i know about border security, head southern command as a marine, my advise to the president would be you come up with ard boer security plan that's reasonable and scour our board and i can get democrats on board. the because we actually need to do both. to those republicans who say if you -- no matter how sympathetic the dream act kids are, if you you're incentive vising more illegal immigration. make a down payment on fixing the system and give these kids the life they deserve. >> in other word, you think that the border wall plan is not the reasonable plan you want to see. >> wem, i've been not worder a

lot. 22 mun mile wall is not necessary. quite frankly i don't think it makes a lot of border security sense. you need walls. you need fences but the president, if he said my border plan is good, most republicans would fall in behind him so the challenge for the president is to give us something to work with on border security that would be meaningful, that could get through the house and the senate, that woo secure the border and the challenge for a guy like me is to try to get democrat the on board for the compromise of border security plus the dream act. you've got some talented people in the trump administration. general kelly and others i think could put together a very good border security plan and of all the people in america who have credibility on securing the border, i would put trump at the top because he made this the central issue of the campaign. >> you may have just heard the spokesperson for attorney jeff sessions on with us, sara flores who basically said it's not the white house' job to legislate.

that's up to congress. >> well i would say this. the that president obama and president bush failed to go forward on ill grags. we all tried. the time is right. the president was right to cancel daca because it is unconstitutional. these 10 republican attorney generals probably did us all a favor by forcing the issue. but he gave us six months. we're not going to pass a bill without presidential help. david gregory is right. he needs to sell this deal. his voice in the house will matter a lot. so the president's going to have to help the congress find a compromise is there to be found. i think he will. i think he has the ability to do. >> the reason you think congress can't do it without the president's leadership is because you haven't yet? you have no faith that two sides can come together without the president applying pressure? >> i've been working on comhentsive immigration reform for a decade. john mccain has been the father of this idea on the republican

side. i like a comprehensive solution. but 70% of americans are s sympathetic to these kids and 70% want better border security. nobody in the republican party has a stronger voice on border security trn than president trump. when he speaks on that the republicans in the country will listen. he does have a good heart for these kids. this is the best chance i've seen for him to make a deal that would be a win win for america. >> but you're saying the center piece of his vision, the border wall is a deal breaker. >> i'm saying that border security, defined buy john kelly is what i would be looking for if i were president trump. somebody who's an expert on the issue, and most everybody understand that is 2200 mile wall would be ineffective quite frankly. the there's some places you don't need a wall at all, sensors and drones can do the job. but come up with a border skrurt

plan, let somebody like john kelly advice the president, and the president needs to own border security and needs to be something we can pass, and in return, democrat the are going to have to understand that most americans want to treat these kid the fairly but also want to secure the border. there's a deal to be had here and the president's got to help sell it. >> when the president tweets this morning that if he guys can't figure it out, that he will revisit it, what does that mean to you? >> i think that means that his he's conflicts about the consequences to the d.r.e.a.m. act kids. he doesn't want their lives to be ruined, but attorney general session ss right about the legality of daca. dap pa, which is the parents portion was stricken down buy courts. it would fail. it would not meet the constitutional test of the court. twans it was an overeach. sit down with smart people, come up with a plan and i will help

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we're tracking hurricane irma already slamming the kreebian. earlier if you were watching we spoke to two americans from their hotel room. it was getting battered during the interview and their feed cut out. we wanted to let i know we have spoken to lauren and rachel since then. they are okay, still riding out the storm in their hotel room.

for the latest on the path, let's get to chad myers. this weather brought to you by xyzal. a significant storm now still headed to the bbi. bar buddha got hit over night. no radio contact. 1400 people live there. there's the storm. of the there's the bbi. virgin gore da. the necker island which is where sir richard branson has a big state. this is what it actually got hit. 155 miles per hour wind gusts and the an a mom meter broke. le we have no idea how much it went up from there. there is the storm still 185 gusting slightly higher. i think we're going to see tremendous storm surge right through the bbi and the u.s. virgin islands. there could be eight to ten feet

of waters up to those areas that like to have the houses so close to the ocean. they may be underwater soon. 185 miles per hour winds. where does it go from here? into the u.s.? does it turn right or does it just keep going straight? right now the center of the cone is somewhere north of cuba. as it turns we are expecting a significant turn at some point. does it turn into the ba hom mas, or florida? we don't know. that's still 72 to 96 hours away. you have to keep watching. i hate to keep you in h suspense but the computers aren't cooperating. >> we don't know today or tomorrow if the people in south florida have a nightmare coming their way. >> absolutely. think we'll know until it finally stops and turns. >> then you have to start a whole new level of projections about which part of the east coast it may come back to or not

at all. thanks. as hurricane irma gets closer, south florida sports teams are changing plans to deal with the storm in advance. thank you. core wire has more on that report. >> the doll fphins were supposeo host the bucs. they're going to either play at a neutral site or postpone. the miami marlins have a long road trip so they'll be away from the storm. but what about the families? team owner doesn't want his team to worry so he is paying for the families to travel to atlanta with the team. >> your family is first and foremost, safety, so for the team to kind of step up and take the initiative and get our families out of here with us is a big help, and a lot less stuff for us to worry about. >> alisyn, we got word from the university of miami that their football game scheduled to be played at ar can saw state on

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. all right. just about an hour from now, there's going to be a very big phone call between president trump and the chinese president about the security issues posed by north korea. the task is to try to get china more involved. what can he offer. let's discuss with democratic senator ed markey. he's recently back from a trip from the border of china. senator. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> i want to reference president trump just spoke to theresa may the prime minister of the united kingdom and said president trump reiterated that now is not the time to talk to north korea. made clear all options remain open to defend the united states

and its allies against any aggression, what do you make of that? >> well, ultimately, that's what china wants. china wants us to talk directly to the north koreans. so if we want the cooperation of the chinese on the issue of this 22% increase in trade between china and north korea over the last year, in ut canning off the oil to north korea, and giving china assurances that our goal is not to decapitate the north korean regime but just end the ballistic missile and nuclear weapons program, then we are going to have to give to china, some of the concessions which are going to be in es sere in order to wind up with them as our partner in helping to isolate the north koreans. >> so how do you move the ball there? we've been saying this for a long time that china's the key.

have 0 get china to stop being so friendly with north korea. very often missiles are carried on chinese missile equipment to the launch sites. what do we know now that we haven't known over the last decades? >> well, we know that china feels threatened by this military build-up in h north korea. that china doesn't want to see a nuclear arms race where south korea has nuclear weapons and the japanese begin to talk about it. so they have a stake in stability. they have a stake in a denuclearized korean peninsula. they have a stake in a stable government in h north korea. we should give assurances to the chinese that that is our goal as well. and if we can do that, then we can begin to repeat what happened in 2006 when the chinese did cut off the oil to north korea. north koreans went to the table, and this time, maybe, no

guarantee at all -- maybe we can get a result which is positive. we haven't been able to do it in the path but it's our best shot at accomplishing that goal. >> do you agree with the president that now is not the time to talk to north korea directly? >> well, if he says to the chinese that he's never going to talk to the north koreans directly, then that will be a non-starter for the chinese. they want that. they also want there to be an agreement in terms of the magnitude of the american military maneuverers in the south that could be aimed or interpreted as lead to go a decap tation of the norkian government. they do not want the -- the chinese do not want a flood of millions of refugees going into their country. ultimately, the only way this is going to work is if the president does compromise with the chinese, listen to what they need out of this but ultimately towards the common goal of ensuring this icbm and hydrogen

bomb program of the north koreans is in fact frozen. >> all right. next topic. da daca. you are a veteran of the progress or lack thereof on this mission. what do you make of the president's move which given in its best light is the court courts were going to move on this anyway. this is your job, you're supposed to make the law. i'm sending it back to you. fix it. >> the president is acting like pont ious pilate knowing these are young people taught in the cross fire. rather than being presidential and standing up and saying he will be the leader in working with the republican party to bring recallsy trant people to table. he's just walking away. ultimately i'm heartened by lindsay graham, i'm heartened by some of the words of speaker

ryan, just maybe this could be the break through on immigration where we find this one piece we can find a solution to it, we all realize that these young people are not a danger to our truntry, but it would be far better if the president was saying that right now. if the president was being presidential. the if he was being the leader which we need, because he can't have it both ways. he can't say that what president obama did was unconstitutional but saying he will revisit in six months. how can you do that if you believe it's unconstitutional. if you put it in the hands of the congress, be a leader and tell whauts the solution should be. >> if i've got to go. in he chance that a wall for daca is a deal that democrats would make? quick answer. >> no. absolutely not. >> all right. senator, thank you very much for joining us. let's see which way it goes.

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all right. time for the good stuff as we wait to see the full impact of hurricane irma interested in those who want to help, what happened with harvey is still growing. elementary school students in north dakota raising money by paying for the right to come to class in cos couple. >> we felt bad for the people in texas who have lost their homes money, pets. >> we heard about the hurricane and decided it if happened to us we would want everyone to donate all they could. >> good kids. their plans for hat day, pajama day, superhero day. they hope to turn over about $1500 and give it to the red cross. we're seeing a lot of efforts of kids and parents. it's the right thing to do.

on that note, today is national read a book day. so if those kids want to pick up a book or people need a diversion, i have a good one to suggest. it's called amanda wakes up. it may just add some levity to your life right now. >> you believe that everything in that book is kid friendly? >> not everything. not everything. the it's really best for adults. >> all right. there is a lot of news. we are tracking one of the worst storms to come out of the atlantic. cnn news room with poppy harlow and john berman have all the latest. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> and the breaking news this morning, one of the if not the most powerful hurricane ever recorded in the open tlants tick, irma is well past the category 5 mark with winds greater than 185 miles per hour. so far today st. martin,