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destructive hurricane irma is, and so does the sound, just listen. that image is from st. martin, the island got hammered, so did nearby st. barts. as always we should say that these numbers are very early and fluid. elsewhere, just take a look. this is the island of barbuda, at least one death reported there. these are some of the first pictures of the devastation taken from a chopper flying the prime minister of barbuda and antigua over the scene. i spoke with the prime minister moments ago. we'll play you that interview shortly what he we saw. he calls it unprecedented. in his words, he says that barbuda is barely inhabitable. and now these storms are destructive, with people having no way out in puerto rico. and exactly where this on the

continental u.s. may hit, just how hard first. let's go to layla santiago, who is in florida for us, what are the conditions there? >> reporter: anderson, we are still starting to feel the winds, feeling them for several hours now as irma is near the northern coast of where we are right now of puerto rico. the shelters right now have more than 2,000 people in them at last check. rain is coming down, and within the last hour after checking with emergency management officials they tell me that this evening they have only had one rescue that they have had to carry out. and that they haven't had any major injuries as a result of irma. but you can tell this wind is coming in strong. and this was the fear for many, you know, today as we talked to one woman who was locking up her business, closing down before

going home to stay there for this very moment. very interesting how she locked the door and looked at us and said it is now in god's hands. there has certainly been a lot of fear leading to what we are seeing right now given that this is one of the strongest storms that has come this way. the governor saying that they have never dealt with the storm of this magnitude in puerto rico's recorded history. so now is the moment that many people are paying attention to wait and see what is next. will there be floods, and will they be able to handle what comes over the next 24 hours, anderson? >> when is it supposed to be at its worst, and i'm wondering how close from what you understand is it supposed to get to puerto rico? >> reporter: well, it is comes just above the northern coast. we don't expect it to make direct landfall. but we'll still have that impact

that will still be felt. we still will feel the wrath of this category 5 hurricane, making its way above puerto rico. you know, the governor has said all day that they were hoping for the best. but preparing for the worst. we don't know yet what the worst will be. heavy winds, yes, we've seen it. rain, yes we've seen it. rising water, some of it. but what will come next is the big fear for this island that -- is filled with 3.5 million u.s. citizens. that are dealing with the uncertainty of what is next. >> yeah, layla santiago, we'll check in with you throughout the next two hours. be careful. at the top of the program we showed you what it looks like at the island of barbuda. just moments ago i spoke with the prime minister of barbuda.

mr. prime minister, if you could describe the scene you saw over barbuda today? >> it was heart wrenching. absolutely devastating. i have never seen such destruction on such a basis compared to what i saw in barbuda today. 95% of the structures were damaged, the hospital, the schools. it is absolutely heartwrenching. >> you said 95% of the structure are damaged. how many of those are completely destroyed? >> in my estimation, probably about 20%, 30% of the properties were totally demolished. and let me adhed also, the airpt is totally damaged. the only way to access is by

helicopters. we have a system in which the communication system was totally destroyed so for example we're seeing cell towers broken in two. >> so is the island cut off? >> well, it was, that is why it took so long, because we couldn't get any phone communication. they had a hand system there which was destroyed. they even had a few satellite phones and apparently they got damaged during the storm. so they had absolutely no mechanism to communicate with us. it was too treacherous for any boats to go over to barbuda, and even by helicopter, but a few of us went over there and risked the elements by helicopter to get an idea of what was happening. because we noticed by 2 or 3:00 a.m. this morning we didn't have any form of communication from barbuda. >> in some of the video we saw that the cell phone tower just snapped. in terms of fatalities, what did

you learn? >> well, luckily, there was only one fatality, i am told that on a piece of property, a mother was trying to move a child, and during the process of leaving the property was damaged and apparently the child suffered a fatal injury. but when you look at the extent of the devastation, i'm surprised that we did not have more fatalities. so that in itself would confirm they would have had a high level of preparedness. but the monstrosity that the storm was, anything that would have been in its path evidently would have suffered the wrath of that storm. so it is easily the most didn't storms that hit the skricaribbe >> what are the terms of capability that is needed to that island. i know you said the runway is

damaged. obviously, that is something that needs to be repaired in order to bring in large aircraft. >> so what we'll have to do is use antigua as a hub and use boats to bring in supplies to barbuda. and presently, we are negotiating with different national agencies and different countries. we've estimated the cleanup to be more than a billion dollars, and that is conservative. because you talk about the institutions, infrastructure, telecommunications. it is just heart wrenching, even the hotels on the island are demolished as well. it is terrible. >> prime minister, i appreciate your time tonight and wish you the best. thank you. >> thank you. we'll have another report from the island coming up. more now on the scope of the

storm, the threat, and the horrifying fact that irma is just one of three hurricanes out there. we have the acting director of the national hurricane center in miami. tom, let's talk about the most important thing. where is this headed. how strong will it get? >> conditions are starting to deteriorate. we told you there was another one, alan, but hurricane irma passed alan, this has been churning with winds at 185 miles an hour. we saw the large ice swallow up barbuda, and four islands along with st. martin have been destroyed. then in the british virgin islands, and onshore not expected to make landfall for

the dominican republic or haiti, but the outer bands are starting to lash it and will for the next couple of hours. the track shows it moving towards turks and caicos, we could see 20 foot storm surges there, already evacuations taking place there. not much of a change from this morning to this evening's track, but there was a change from last night. shifting it eastward toward miami about 60 to 70 miles an hour off to the east, there is still a cone of uncertainty here, alan, each day is important, anderson. >> to specify it on miami, it has now shifted which direction? east? >> east, about 60 to 70 miles. >> so ed, i know you spent decades studying storms, from your perspective how rare is this storm and how accurate are the models? >> at this point we have quite a bit of confidence in the next three and a half days or so in

terms of the track, we expect the hurricane to pass just north of the islands and then when it gets about to the florida peninsula, we don't know if a turn will occur right over the peninsula just to the east or west. that makes a huge difference, if the hurricane turns and comes over south florida as is forecasted now this will be the most significant impact that we have had in florida, in fact in the u.s. since hurricane andrews. so this would be a once in a generation type of hurricane if it comes to show at category 4 or 5. >> so that is the middle track, or is that the track on the far west? >> right now, the forecast track is for the hurricane center to come up very close to the east coast. but we're talking about four to five days from now. and the average air is large enough to cover the entire peninsula here from west to east. so if it comes to shore, we'll have the worst of the conditions. if it turns offshore and even

passes, we'll have the hurricane-force winds in south florida because the size of the storm is large enough to bring the winds to this area. >> do you know when we will know which of those options it may be taking with confidence? >> we'll probably know in about 24 to 36 hours. at this point what we know is a little more clearly is that the track will turn near the peninsula. as of yesterday there was still a possibility it would make it into the eastern gulf of mexico. that is much less likely now. now we're focused more on the area from east to the west part of the florida peninsula. >> and tom, is it possible for it to go further up the east coast? >> yeah, i mean, we can look at an ensemble. this is about 21 models that make up the u.s. gsf model. and first we want to know if it interacts with cuba, if it heads

in the direction and further to the north we could look at a landfall up in the carolinas if it stays just off the coast as well. and anderson this is a lot like matthew last year, this devastated haiti, taking hundreds of lives and plowing through cuba, but if you recall it made its way through the bahamas, reorganizing itself through freeport. we had significant damage, buildings all the way up and down the coast. and there is historic flooding up in the carolinas where we lost dozens of people, with parts of georgia and south carolina. so even if it stays off the coast there will be damage, off coast there is catastrophic damage. and if it stays off the coast, there will be catastrophic damage. the winds, the tropical storm force winds are so wide it would swallow the entire florida peninsula as it makes its way

northward. >> how often would buildings in a city like miami if it was a track that takes it over land, how strong are they? are they built to prepare for a cat 5? >> after hurricane andrew, florida upgraded their building codes, so the building codes are the strongest in the nation here. still, a category 5 hurricane is going to cause devastating damage. the buildings may well be strong enough for people to survive now, which is good. but there will be tremendous damage if the center and the eye wall just around it come across the land. >> tom, we'll check in with you. coming up what it's like to measure the storm from a whole lot closer from this view from space we're about to show you. you will hear from a n.o.a.a. scientist who has just flown straight into irma and says it is getting even stronger as we speak. kevin, meet your father.

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how does this compare to the previous ones? >> well, the last two flights that we've done -- we've essentially followed the same kind of a pattern. i'm flying in the gulf stream jet, which is a high altitude hurricane hunter reconnaissance craft. this is the craft that flies on top of the storm at 35,000 feet. and what we do, there is a key element to our mission, is that we're releasing drop sondes, which is essentially the opposite of a weather balloon. instead of going up the sondes fall by parachute and transmit

data by the aircraft, critical data, like gps wind direction wind speed. and all that data gets scattered by the aircraft and we transmit it by satellite to the national hurricane center. it goes directly into the computer models that are forecasting the track. which everybody in the entire u.s. is now focusing on the track. so we are dropping 33 of the sondes on those missions in order to find the accuracy of the track. >> and in terms of what the storm is doing right now. >> the storm is actually -- sad to say, the storm is actually getting stronger. the latest aircraft in the center measured a pressure of 914 millibars, which is the

lowest it has been, and we're continuing to see winds measured by the aircraft in the range of 150 to 160 knots of the surface, in the eye wall which is over 180 miles an hour. so this is a legitimate category 5 hurricane. you really can't over-hype this storm. it's the strongest storm that has ever formed in this part of the atlantic. we have had cat 5's that have formed further to the west, closer to miami of course. we had andrew, and then we have had storms like karina and rita back in the gulf of mexico back in 2005. but they really haven't seen a storm like irma. so it's extremely dangerous, especially with the path that is projected, to go through the bahamas and threaten florida. also a very large storm. >> it bears repeating what you just said.

this is the strongest storm in the atlantic that we have ever seen and it's getting stronger. is it getting stronger because it's going over warmer water as it approaches the u.s.? >> yes, that is a big part of it. part of it is the upper level environment around the storm, and that is exactly what we are measuring right now with our gulf stream jet. again, we're up at 35,000 feet getting a full profile of the atmosphere from that altitude all the way do you think to when the sonde splashes in the ocean. so it's not only the environment around the storm that is important but also the ocean temperatures. the ocean temperatures ahead of irma are very, very warm. we're talking water temperatures of 87, 88 degrees farenheit. and that is just fuel for the fire. the waters through the bahamas

heading towards miami are about the warmest they have been all year. >> and you talked about the size of the eye, if you could just repeat how big that eye it. and i know yesterday people were talking about how sort of perfect the eye wall was. i am wondering how it looks today today. >> the eye continues to have that perfect, what we call stadium effect to it. where it looks like you're inside a circular football stadium. right now the eye is approximately 15 miles across. it is actually getting smaller. it's going through another one of those what we call eye wall replacement cycles where there is a double eye wall right now. that outer eye wall is forming that has a lighter diameter than the inner eye wall, and it's contracting in towards the center. and normally what that does is it actually weakens the storm

briefly. so what you might see overnight is you may see the hurricane bottom out in intensity, maybe even weaken just a few millibars, but then once it replaces that cycle, it is even stronger than before. and irma has gone through about five cycles in the last few days. >> we appreciate very much what you and your colleagues are doing to inform us. thank you, richard henning. >> thank you, anderson. mayor, do you feel that the miami beach is prepared for whatever comes? >> anderson, this is one of the most powerful forms in the history of the atlantic as your folks just told you. i think we are as prepared as possible, i'm told county has declared mandatory evacuation.

i am told get out of miami beach. this storm is a nuclear hurricane. so we're putting in pumps, portable generators, we're offering sabrindbags. >> how easy is it for people to get out? >> we're offering all sorts of services, buses, trolleys, protocol put together, we're working with our seniors and homeless communities. and of course our special needs folks are already under a mandatory evacuation as of yesterday when that was called. we're doing everything we can, we're here for our residents and we just want all of them to be safe. that is the mandatory most important thing. >> i know that miami has learned from past decades and building codes, people pride themselves on the strength of the

buildings. just in terms of a category 5 or 4, can buildings sustain that? are they built for that? >> like one of your experts said, since hurricane andrew, the upgrades and protocols are much higher. they're supposed to. it doesn't make a difference, you can't take chances, we don't want to be sorry we want to be safe. so folks should listen and leave miami beach. i'm going to be there, our team is going to be there. i'm going to be through there, through this entire storm. we're doing all we can to protect our residents and property. >> about how many residents would you like to have evacuated in miami? >> i would like to have all of them evacuated. but it's a little under 100,000 people, not including our tourists. i issued a letter today before the mandatory evacuation saying please i urge you to leave miami beach now. this is not a game. this is serious business. >> if somebody is staying for whatever reason, how many days

do you advise that they're able to be self sufficient in terms of food and water? >> well, that is something they have to make a personal plan about anderson, we don't advise them to stay. what happens is as this storm moves in, and hopefully it doesn't but it looks like what the experts are showing us with a 3 or 400 mile diameter it is so wide and big, the state of florida, the width is only 140 miles across, this will envelope the entire state. we're telling them that services are reduced to next to nothing as this storm comes in. so i hate to say it, but you would be on your own if you choose to stay in miami beach because we will not put our first responders there if the storm hits. >> we appreciate you very much. coming up later, we'll speak to the mayor of miami-dade county, for what residents are getting ready for, a possible catastrophe. first, a stunning

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the man known for the art of the deal surprisingly made a deal with the other party. in a surprising move, president trump sided with congressional democrats in a move extending the debt ceiling and funding hurricane harvey relief. now it's a deal that speaker paul ryan strongly criticized. just hours before it was accepted. >> i think it's disgraceful, if they want to play politics with the debt ceiling at this moment when we have fellow citizens in need so that we respond to the hurricane so that we do not strand them. >> president trump's move surprised his own party, and he wrote this, the worst negotiators in history otherwise known as republicans have just offered to suspend debt ceiling go four months, pathetic. so what did the president have to say about this deal with democrats? >> well, this is more of the art of the deal, schumer nancy pelosi edition. the president talked to reporters on air force one earlier today describing the

deal for a three-month extension of the debt ceiling as a very good deal and over here at the white house, senior administration officials defended it as something the president wanted to do swiftly to get hurricane relief down to texas and louisiana. that was a part of this package that the president essentially signed off on today. but republicans were telling us behind the scenes that they were furious, they wanted a deal that would take the debt ceiling out for 18 months. they obviously did not get that. and i talked to one republican source earlier today who said not only did the president buck his own party but bucked his treasury secretary saying the president just folded in this meeting with the democrats. >> can you just explain why republicans would be upset about that, not just the fact that the president is siding with democrats on this, but why republicans are arguing for a longer continuation of the debt ceiling. >> well, what they want anderson is essentially a debt ceiling deal that is matched with tax cuts and spending cuts, a tax

reform package, the head of the house freedom caucus was asked by reporters did you anticipate the president coming up with a three-month extension of the debt ceiling and he said no, he did not. so this is how in the dark many republican leaders were up on capitol hill. but it basically comes down to a lot of principles on the conservative side of the republican party, they just didn't want to give out a debt ceiling without getting something in return. >> i understood that ivanka trump stopped by during this meeting, what do we know about it? >> she came in and essentially greeted the room. we're told by republican sources that republican lawmakers were in the room. the leadership was annoyed by this, quote, annoyed by this and thought that they had seen the meeting careen off course, was the language used. house speaker paul ryan said this was just not the case, that

didn't happen. but interesting to note that ivanka trump was with the president later on today at the tax reform speech in north dakota. and later, one report said that ivanka said, dad i can't come out with you to north dakota today. she was clearly on the president's mind today. as a part of this administration, a part of this white house. but when you talk to republican sources as we did earlier today they did not appreciate her involvement in that meeting which did not work out too well for the republicans. they sounded pretty upset about this and it doesn't sound like this is going to be over any time soon soon, in terms of the grapes coming out of the meeting today. >> and a congressional source told cnn that some republican leaders were visibly annoyed by her presence, a spokesperson that you heard said that was not true. joining me now, kirsten powers,

we'll get to you first, why was it so upsetting to the republicans? >> well, i think the republicans wanted something in return for it. they don't want to raise the debt ceilings without spending cuts tied to it. i think they probably -- i actually don't know why zurdona trump did this. because it's not a very good deal. they recognize that the democrats are not going to vote against the ceiling happening, they're not going to shut the government down. >> even though they threatened to. >> anybody that follows politics knows that is not going to happen. they're not going to be responsible for spending our economy into chaos. so there was really no deal for donald trump to strike this deal with them. he didn't need it to get what he wanted. >> he also talked about the move on daca, which is also something that democrats want. how surprising is it that ivanka trump drops in on such a high

level meeting like this? >> not at all. this is a woman who as a child did it from school. she would call her father at the right moment. and he would stop a meeting to take her call to demonstrate how close they are. she has been this kind of prop and instrument for him most of her life. and i actually imagine in this case that they knew what was going on. that no one else did. that the trumps understood that he was going to make this arrangement with the democrats. it was going to sell out the republicans, but their interest is the president. it's not the republican party and it's really not a concern about the debt ceiling in december. >> it's also interesting, kirsten, the abnormal becomes normal after a time. i go back to if this was hillary clinton and chelsea clinton just decided to pop into a meeting to talk about an issue that was important, i'm not sure that republicans would be greeting

this like oh, yeah, that is just normal. >> well, i don't think it is normal. this is something she has actually done repeatedly, come into other meetings the president is having. i don't know if he realizes that this actually is not that impressive to people, right? the fact that had when he is meg with "the new york times," and in comes ivanka with the grandchildren. i think he thinks she is sort of his prized possession and everybody is going to be so blown away because she shows up. but nobody cares. this is not -- this is the white house, right? i don't think anybody is going to stop and be like, oh, my gosh, she is here, it's so amazing. the meeting with the united states, they're meeting with him trying to figure out governance, they don't need to meet with the daughter of the president. and coming up, a lot to get to and the latest on hurricane

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tonight how just russian interference in the u.s. election actually played out. particularly on social media, facebook sold about $100,000 to a political ad with a so-called russian troll farm regarding ads. >> as you said, 3,000 ads over the course of june 16 to may 2016 to this year doesn't sound like a lot of money or ads in the whole scheme of thing, but keep in mind the way facebook works, 3,000 ads, they can be shared multiple times. so likely the eyeballs that sold those ads, that is a key factor here. another one is this, this is something that adam schiff, the ranking member of the house intelligence committee brought up today. he said it raises the question again, some of the ads facebook said were targeted to particular communities, districts, et

cetera. that will raise questions about something that is already a focus of the investigation. if russia was targeting particular swing districts, did they get any help from the u.s. >> and what about these ads? do they directly make reference to the election? >> they do, not all of them did, some of them did, some made references to clinton and trump. and crucially, those that did not facebook said they were decisive issues, issues like lgbt rights, gun rights, which were a part of the political debate, and again this is something for the committees to investigate. political topics, not necessarily ones that are hurting a candidate but ones that sought to inject themselves into hot button issues but were issues in the campaign. >> and we know congress handed this information over, this is interesting. >> we're hearing from sources on the hill that facebook wanted this to come out last week during the recess, the senate intelligence committee said no. you're going to do this when the

members are back, when recess is over, appears perhaps an effort by facebook for want -- to want to bury this during the summer when recess was still going on, it's out now, getting attention the committee believes it deserves. still, open questions, one of which i raised earlier, what does it say about coordination, did russia and the russian bot farms, did they target individuals and get any help from the u.s. to do that? >> all right, jim sciutto, thank you, we're hearing more details on the larger russian investigation, tomorrow, we'll speak to staffers on the judiciary committee. and former secretary susan rice spoke recently. and mueller has asked the white house to preserve all documents related to the trump tower meeting. he examined former adviser michael flynn's efforts to get hillary clinton's stolen

e-mails, and also subpoenaed paul manafort, and why he fired ex-director comey. based on mueller's moves, where do you see this going? >> mueller is looking at two things, an obstruction of justice that might have occurred by the president of the united states, and trying to undermine and obstruct and demean and kill the investigation into these allegations of russian interference and also, he is looking for evidence of collusion. we keep hearing that key word "collusion." yet his shop has been very tight. we don't have real quote leaks out of mueller's shop, and we don't have evidence that he has found convincing evidence of collusion. that doesn't mean he has not. but thus far what is apparent is how convincing the evidence of a white house presidential coverup is. the question is what is it that

donald trump has been covering up? as you and i talked about on this air for a good while. does it go just to his business dealings in russia, and around the russian empire, former russian empire with oligarchs, et cetera, and favorable conditions for loans, et cetera. we don't know. but does it go to collusion? that, we have no evidence yet certainly in the press as of yet. >> and he always said he is totally transparent. obviously that has not been the case, there are a lot of unanswered questions and different versions surrounding that meeting. how do you think the staff will approach this tomorrow? >> well, it's not clear if they're going to put him under oath or not, whether this is actually a deposition or an informal meeting to explore different avenues. depending on which status it is they may press him very hard on what happened and the details of that meeting. they probably know a good bit

about it already. there had been other -- other people there had been in touch with the senate. so that will be the focus obviously. and i think secondly, they may look for cooperation with the dossier. there are no rules of evidence involved here. they can probe him for any hearsay he knows about what happened. any issues that are raised in that dossier that he may know. so i think they will explore all options, nothing is out of bounds. >> i mentioned the interview with coombs, and he says it will still be on the record, are there legal consequences if he lies and -- you know, you i think in the past have said kind of the staff interviews that are not public can actually be more efficient because people are not sort of grandstanding for cameras. >> absolutely, it is a crime to

lie in a staff meeting like this, whether he is under oath or not. i mean, it could be different crimes and could be less serious if it's not under oath. but it is certainly still a crime. but you know i think it's important to point out that as important as these interviews are, these investigations stand or fall not on interviews but on physical evidence. e-mails, remember, we wouldn't even know about this meeting but for the e-mails about the meeting that donald trump jr. had with the russian lawyer. e-mails -- wiretaps. you know, john dean caused a sensation during his watergate testimony, in the senate commission on watergate. but what really sealed nixon's fate was the corroboration.

the corroboration or the lack of testimony. that is what will determine the fate of this investigation. >> john, do you agree with that? >> i do, it would have been very lonely without the tapes. i actually added it to my testimony at the last moment i thought was recorded. it's the best edition. >> do you know if it was recorded, or do you have the feeling? >> i had the feeling in one meeting in particular on april 15th, when he asked me leading questions and at one point went to the corner of the office and in a stage whisper asked me a question. at that moment it just clicked and i said he is recording this and it stuck. >> do we know the extent to which mueller may be looking at the president's involvement in crafting that statement for donald trump, in which "the new york times" reported he had a very active role in. >> that is something we do know about, and we know it because there are so many lawyers involved in this that they have been talking to the press about

what their clients have been asked. and as a result, it's very clear that mueller wants to know what exactly happened at the meeting, and did donald trump obstruct justice in crafting the statement on the airplane coming back from germany, intended to defend his son, donald trump jr. there are accounts of the meeting from numerous sources and there also are accounts of trump's plane ride back, from among others, senior white house staffers about how that response was crafted. and that is one of the things specifically that mueller is looking at in terms of a possible contributing to a larger obstruction of justice question about trump's conduct throughout these months. >> and anderson, if you can just add, that is -- the testimony about the drafting is not going to be as important as if they can find e-mail drafts of the

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we have more information coming in on hurricane irma, namely the damage it could do if and when it hits south florida so let's go to tom sater in the weather center. how bad could the winds be if this storm makes a direct landfall in miami? >> pretty devastating, obviously, anderson. when we look at a storm of this magnitude, it's defying really the rules of nature here, by hanging at a cat 5 for so long. this track, if it goes right, moves toward cuba, and comes up from the south, it's going to affect millions of people. so for those that are deciding they want to hang out a little longer, that you're in a high-rise building. take a look at this. keep this in mind. winds at a cat 3 or cat 4, at the surface they're 145 miles per hour. the higher you live in a high-rise, the more the winds increase. if you're at 30 stories, they increase by 20%. the 145 mile per hour wind is 174. because you don't have the friction with the ground.

if you live in a, let's say, the 80th floor to 100th, that's 30% stronger. so that same 145 mile per hour wind, anderson, is up to 189. it's amazing. you're going to see cranes swirling. three weeks ago, we had a typhoon in hong kong. we had hundreds and hundreds of panes of glass fall from high-rise buildings as well. not a safe place. >> tom, quickly, a few minutes ago i talked to a scientist flying through the middle of the storm to gauge its strength, above the storm, he said it's actually getting stronger. i'm wondering your reaction to that. >> yeah, what he is talking about, we mentioned this the other night, alluded to it, take a top and spin it on the table, after a while, that centrifugal force will start to wobble. notice the eye in the center where the winds are the strongest. about 50 miles from san juan. but beyond that eye, there is a secondary band that's been forming. the strong winds in the center, anderson, fan out and create an outer wall. once that is established, that

outer band shrinks up and the storm increases again. it takes about 10 to 12 hours to complete one of these cycles, but by the time it's over with, the outer band comes back into the center, it can be just as strong as it was before it began or even stronger so that's why it's really been defying the rules here of nature. so, again, if it continues at that strength with the waters getting warmer, it could go through this eye wall replacement cycle time and time again sustaining that strength which is not the best of news as it gets into the warm waters closer to florida. >> just incredible the strength of this thing. tom, thanks very much. continuing the focus on south florida i talked to miami-dade county mayor carlos gimenez a short time ago. mayor jimenez, your county just issued a mandatory evacuation order for all mobile homes, some other at-risk areas. how prepared is the area? >> miami-dade county is very well prepared. we've had experience with hurricanes, you know, forever here, and we've learned a lot

from hurricane andrew. so we're much better prepared than before. our state partners and federal partners are also much better prepared to respond to whatever happens here in miami-dade. >> what's your advice for those in your county who are preparing now? >> my advice is like i tell everybody is, "a," have three days of water and food, you need to be self-sufficient for about three days because if we do have a major storm coming through, we may not be able to get to you for three days. we actually need to help those that can't help themselves. so the more people can, then the less we have to provide the services. that's the first thing. make sure that you secure your home. if you live in an evacuation zone, like we just listed, please, you need to leave because if something happens and the storm comes and you require help of police, fire, we may not be able to get to you. >> in terms of state, federal assets in place before the storm gets there, you feel confident? >> well, the problem that we have is that because the storm may be going from south to

north, it's difficult for the state or the federal government basically to, you know, pre-locate so that they can come down quickly and that's an issue that we've been talking with the governor and our federal, you know, partners. i understand their predicament. they don't want to be caught in a hurricane, themselves. some models have it going straight up the state of florida so they have to be careful about exactly where they reposition but also miami-dade county is much better prepared for hurricanes. an example, when hurricane andrew came here, you couldn't get gasoline out of the ground because the gas stations had no power. well now a great number of our gas stations actually have emergency power. you couldn't get any food because none of our supermarkets had emergency power. now a great number of our supermarkets have emergency power. so what we want to do is get people to be self-sufficient

again, get them back on their feet as soon as possible, make sure they have a way to get around and also a way to feed themselves so that we government have to, you know, can provide the services to the people that really need it. >> as you said three days of self-sufficiency. mayor gimenez, appreciate your time. good luck. >> it's my pleasure. thank you. >> we have more hurricane coverage coming up. we'll get an update from san juan, puerto rico, a live update. and hear from people who have already seen in the caribbean what this storm can do. hey, man. oh!

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