comey said criminal charges on these facts. >> but he also made sure to condemn her choice to use a personal server. >> although werpgsz find clear evidence that secretary clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information. >> clinton later responded to comey's comments on fox news. >> after a long investigation, fbi director james comey said none of those things you told the american people were true. >> chris, that's not what i heard director comey say. and i thank you for giving me the opportunity to in my view clarify. director comey said my answers were truthful and what i said is consistent. >> but the e-mail controversy wasn't over. now his motivates and timing were questioned. >> we're mistified and confused

by the fact pattern that you laid out and the conclusions that you reached. >> it almost looks like a choreography. >> then in september, former new york representative anthony weiner was caught exchanging as well explicit messages with an underage girl. he pled guilty to a federal obscenity charge, his wife filed for divorce. thousands of e-mails from abedin were found, the majority backed up on wiener's computers. fbi director comey announced he was reopening his investigation, and informed congress about it in a letter on october 28th, just 11 days for election day. >> the election has been on october 27th, i would be your president. >> you said about james comey that he shifd you, that's a

strong word. >> it is a strong word. >> and it also implies that it was personal or he was trying to get you. >> he's never been clear about his motivation and what bothered me the most as time went on after the election and we learned more about the open fbi investigation into the trump campaign and their connections with russia, that had been going on for quite some time. the american people didn't know about it. he was specifically asked why didn't you tell the american people about that investigation? and he said, well, because it was too close to an election. so ask yourself, a closed investigation that ended the prior july, an ongoing investigation into the trump campaign and russia, one deserves to be blown out of proportion, nothing to be found one more time, and the american people don't have the information that there's a

legitimate investigation going on about trump and russia before they vote. >> do you think it's personal? >> i have no idea. i can't sit here and tell you. i know there had to be some pressure on him because rudy giuliani announced something big was coming in two days. and people speculated was he under pressure from giuliani and others within the fbi or the broader law enforcement community? i don't speculate on it. i just talk about how really hard to understand it was and the impact that it had. >> one of the things, though, that director comey gave for that press conference in july was the meeting that your husband had on the tarmac with the attorney general, attorney general lynch. you don't write about what you said to your husband when you heard about that meeting. >> i didn't hear about it for days because it was so

inconsequential to both of them. and when i did, i didn't think much of it. it was a rationalization that was used to be able to do what he did. what's important to me going forward is, as i say, i think it's important to focus on what happened because lessons can be learned. but the more important lessons it will affect your democracy going forward are not about him and the investigation. he forever changed history, but that's in the past. what's important is the fact that the russians are still going at us. he himself admitted that before congress. people i really respect like jim clapper and others who knew that the russians were doing have been sounding the alarm. i will tell you this, anderson. if i had been elected president under the same circumstances so that i the lost popular vote, i squeaked through the electoral college and evidence came up that the russians were trying to help me, i would have said on the first day in office we're

going to launch the most thorough investigation. no nation can mess with our democracy. i would have had an i understand commission, i would have done everything i could to get to the bottom of it because it's not going to stop. that's what i'm worried about. >> when "usa today," you said, quote, i'm convinced of it. you're convinced there was collusion? >> let me say i'm convinced there was communication. i'm convinced there were meetings and phone calls. i'm convinced that there were financial entanglements. let's wait to see what it's called. i'm convinced that there was something going on. let's put the investigation to one side because, indeed, i have a lot of confidence in the special counsel. i don't know what he's going to end up up. he's an honorable man. put that to one side because

that's going to listen to it almost doesn't matter. our president, whoever our president is, should be dwejd defending our country and standing up and saying nobody messes with america. we are not going to tolerate that. we don't hear any of that coming from the white house. >> because of russia's role, do you think there should be an asterisk next to president trump's name in the history books? >> look, we don't have all the facts yet. what i believe we now know, they paid for facebook ads. we know that they had access to targeting and data information from somewhere, maybe internally, maybe help externally. we know that they had russians pretending to be americans who were online and in person trying to foment negative stories about me. we know there was a huge amount of content being produced in places like macedonia. we know that wikileaks which is basically a front now for putin

was more than willing to publish stolen e-mails from the dnc and podes podesta. those e-mails were ridiculous, absurd, untrue stories being churned out, on and on. there's a lot we know already. >> you followed this extremely closely? >> i started following this back in the summer of 2016 because there was something going on when the dnc hack happened, we had a huge political crisis when republicans physically broke into the democratic party. that is different kind of theft. >> do you think this is bigger than watergate? >> i think it's probably bigger than watergate because it is about the future. we no longer are worried about spies and pro-voc tours dress in

black stealing information. they do it sitting in the offices of the russian military intelligence and other related venues and they get into the core of our life now through the computer networks. >> republicans will say no vote was ever changed, this did not effect the outcome of the election. >> i would say two things. this was a highly sophisticated influence operation. it did effect people's votes. i think it cost me votes. >> the fact those e-mails were -- >> and that they were weaponized. in the book i write about how if you go look at google searches, particularly in some of the battleground states during october and you listen to trump's speeches where he mentioned wikileaks 160 times, they clearly knew that stories that were making stuff up trying to use the e-mails were

permeating facebook and other sites. the worst of them was this pizza gate story where whole cloth made up, they took the word pizza out of one of podesta's e-mails saying we were running a trafficking ring out of a pizza place. millions of people were exposed to that. the horrible hit job, total lies about the clinton foundation, people were affected by that because we could see that the wikileaks searches and a lot of places that were historically swing counties were really rising. i think the influence did affect individual voters. what we don't know yet and we're only beginning to get evidence of is why were the russians intruding into our voter registration roles. >> you think this russian interference was not enough to have cost you the election if director comey hadn't reopened that investigation? >> that's what i believe.

i believe it became a perfect storm: reopening it which caused people once again to be obsessed with e-mails and then podesta's e-mails being used to drive all this negative story about me, i think it came together to really kind of make some people queasy, like what if she goes to jail. i heard that so many times. i talked to reporters who were out there covering the campaign to the very end, and people would say things like, you know, i like her and she's done a good job, but what if she's in jail? i knew that was happening, but i thought we would ride it out. >> coming up, more of that interview. what went through clinton's mind with the infamous "access hollywood" staple came out two days after her second debut with donald trump. we'll talk about that next. re plaque psoriasis,... ...isn't it time to let the real you shine through? maybe it's time for otezla (apremilast). otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months,...

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>> two days after the tape is released, donald trump and hillary clinton come face to face in the second presidential debate. trump's team had gone on the offensive hours before the debate even began, holding a press conference. the accusers are also guests of honor at the debate seated with the donald trump family in the audience. the two candidates do not shake hands as they enter the stage. when the debate began, the "access hollywood" tape was front and center. this is what hillary clinton said about it. >> i think it's clear to anyone who heard it that it represents exactly who he is. because we've seen this throughout the campaign. we have seen him insult women. we've seen him rate women on their appearance, ranking them from one to ten. we've seen him embarrass women on tv and on twitter.

we saw him after the first debate. it's been nearly a week, denigrating a former miss universe in the harshest, most personal terms. so, yes this is who donald trump is. >> i want to ask you about the second debate which took place two days after. >> you were there. i want to thank you, anderson. i'm hard on the press, as you know from reading the book, in many ways. couple people came in for good descriptions and prays. >> my first question was describing what he talked about. he described as -- that is sexual assault, do you understand that? we wrestled with how to handle the "access hollywood" tape. when the tape came out two days before this debate, did you wrestle with what to say about it? >> first of all we were shocked,

and we were, you know, totally surprised at something like that existed and had come out. and we did wrestle with it because we wanted to let people see it, we didn't want to get in the way of people being able to draw their own conclusions, but we also wanted to reference it because i found it very troubling both personally and politically. >> do you understand women who voted for donald trump as president even though they heard what he said? do you respect women who voted for donald trump after the "access hollywood" tape? >> what happened after that tape, which was wall to wall coverage, century affected a lot of people. a lot of women were concerned about that, and i knew it would be tough to -- i won all women, but i lost white women, and i

knew that would be tough. but i ended up more white votes than president obama had in 2012. this was a longerer-term democratic nominee problem. so i knew i was going to have to work madrid on it. when that happened and the way -- really, it was a horrific two to three day story and then it sort of dropped, because, remember, within an hour of that tape going public. >> wikileaks. >> wikileaks dropped john podesta's e-mails. i struggled with that. why would somebody find what largely i think could be described as boring an dine e-mails more significant than words coming out of trump's mouth. >> also at that debate, it was the most tense room i've ever been in for the first 30 minutes. you didn't shake hands with each other. and there was the physicality of donald trump walking around the stage. i'm just wondering what was

going through your mind at that point. >> i prepared for him to try to use his size and frespresence t entitlement me. i practiced. one of the medication of my team said, remember, he's trying to get inside your head. i knew that the best way he could respond given what that tape showed was to try to assert the alpha male, it's just locker room talk stuff. so we practiced that. and i concluded after practicing it that i needed to just remain calm and composed because if i said anything that acknowledged it, i was afraid that it would look like i couldn't take it, that i wasn't tough enough, that this guy was looming over me, i should just be able to proceed. that's what i did. in retro aspect in writing the

book, i thought, you know, my head was running all through the debate. this is really discomforting. this is weird. i've debated other people. what he's doing is deliberately meant to throw me off. maybe i should say something, you know, turn around, you're not going to entitlement me, back off, you creep. i wanted to remain composed. >> was it distracting for you? obviously you weren't looking at him. did you see him out of the corner of your eye? >> you could. i certainly was aware of him. i won the debate according to the the analysts, but as i say in the book, i think that what he did and what he tried to, and his insulting me, calling me a nasty woman in a third debate, all of that played to his base.

so both the men and women who were in his base in the republican base, they were rationalizing their support for him all the time. it was like, well, yeah it was probably locker rooms. look, the director of the fbiization she may go to jail. locker rooms isn't as bad as that. there was a constant weighing back and forth. in the end i got 90% of the democratic vote and it was in part because i think a lot of people who voted for him said he won't be like that as president, besides we want our tax cuts and we want to make sure that we get a supreme court justice. so i think there was heavy rationalization going on in that last month. >> you spent a lot of time in the book talking about how much comfort your husband gave you throughout the campaign and obviously in the last couple months. you wrote i know some people wonder why we're still together that we must have an arrangement. we do, it's called a marriage.

now he's reading over our shoulder with our dogs underfoot. why did you feel the need to include that in the book? >> i talked about bill and chelsea and my mother and my friends because in the book i have a chapter called on being a woman in politicizing where i really do try to take on sexism and misogyny. but i also wand to make it clear, first of all, that putting yourself out there in politicizing, in public life, can be immensely rewarding. that's not all that's important in life by any means. so i wanted to really, again, kind of pull the curtain back and say, you know, i lost a presidential campaign that i thought i was going to win, it was devastating, but i have so many blessings in my life, starting with my husband and the life we built together. >> you also wrote during what you describe during the dark days of your marriage, the two

questions you asked yourself is do i still love him and can i stay in this marriage without being unrecognizable to myself. >> they were hard questions. anybody alive in america at that time knows how difficult that period was. i really had to struggle, and i had a lot of angst. i had to fall back on my face, and my family and my friends. i wasn't going to be making a decision that other people wanted me to make, or public pressure was coming in on me. i was going to make my decision, and it was based on those two questions and the life we had built together. and i'm glad that's the way i chose to continue my life. >> chelsea clinton was a surrogate for you during the campaign. if you had won, would chelsea clinton have an office in the west wing? would she be able to drop in on

meetings? >> no. it wouldn't cross her mind. she has an active life. >> is it appropriate? >> you know, it's up to a president to decide who is or is not welcomed in any meeting. that's up to a president. i can only speak for myself. and the white houses i've been in and it is work i've done, i think there's not enough expertise and experience yet in the white house right now. >> does it concern you that jar jared kushner seems to be the point person? >> it concerns me that the deep well of experience and expertise that our country has to offer, our foreign service has to offer, that outside experts have to offer is largely being disregarded. if you look at what's happening in north korea, we need to have

an intensive diplomatic effort. that requires people who know the culture, the history, the languages that are involved. i don't see that happening. and then you can pick anywhere else in the world and draw the same conclusion. so we are not engaging in state craft the way we need to. it's not that individuals can't be part of team who may have different expertise or perspectives. that's fine. but teams need to be led by people who understand the history and how we got to where we are in order to make progress. >> in the book you make no attempt to hide your displeasure about the electoral college. you say the god fore saken electoral college. do you think the electoral college should be abolished? >> i said that in 2000 after what happened with al gore. i was elected to the senate that same year, and if you look at our recent history, we've had several candidates, nominees, who have won the popular vote

and lost the electoral college? it says that an ack any of them that was designed for another time no longer works if we've moved toward one person, one vote, that's how we select winners. i was amused after the french election. i think it needs to be eliminated. i'd like to see us move beyond it, yes. >> you also mention in the book after you realized you lost, you thought about all the lock her up chants. >> yes. >> and donald trump at the second debate said if he was president, you would be in jail. is that something you seriously worried about? >> i knew i had no reason to worried about it. you can't predict what he might do. that's one of the lessons we've seen so far in this presidency. like so much else, i just kind of moved beyond that. i got interested in cleaning my

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. more now but . >> what she thinks about the future of our democrats. zblan do you think donald trump has moved beyond the election? he does talk about you still a lot. >> yes, he does talk about me quite a bit. i would think held have a lot more things to spend his time on. he's got crises all around the world, divisiveness if our country, terrible events of charlottesville and so muchless going on that i think he shouldn't be focus on rather than constantly trying to take pot shots at me or president obama. he does that quite often too. >> senator sanders obviously has a strong voice in the democratic party.

what political sin did he commit other than choose to go run against you. it's not the political sin he committed. it was the failure to move dwoilk unify the pert and his supporters. i know a bit about this. >> after it was clear -- >> it was clear i was going to be the nominee in march or april. it was beyond any doubt in june. and in '08 we ran a much closer, tougher primary contest between president obama and myself. it was really close. and i immediately endorsed him, and i went to work for him. i spent countless hours, anderson, convincing my supporters who felt equally grieved that they had to support barack obama. i was still arguing with big rooms of supporters at the denver convention. i didn't get that same respect and reciprocity from senator sanders or from his supporters.

they're still incredibly divisive. i'm interested in what he can do to elect democrats. he's not a democrat, he makes that clear. but we need to do everything possible twin governorships in new jersey and virginia this year, and we need to do everything possible to flip the congress in 2018. he could be helpful if he so chose, and that's what i'm calling on him to do. >> do you think donald trump will be a candidate in 2020. >> he's already got a committee open. he's raising a lot of money. i think he thinks he will be. we have to wait and see what happens. >> to those who hear your interviews, see the book coming out and think is this what the democratic party really needs, that they need fresh leadership, they need new voices, new people entering the arena, and that by you being on the stage in such a public way, it hampers that. >> i don't buy that at all. from my perspective, i have a lot of experience and expertise

and insight that i'm sharing with the world, and particularly with democrats. i've got a new organization called onward together. i'm supporting young grassroots groups that have sprung up to recruit candidates, train them, run them, fund them. i'm going to supporting candidates. so i'm out of politics as a candidate but i'm still deeply committed to make sure we don't lose ground to this bias and prejudice and favoring the wealthy and the well-connected over everybody else. >> one of the things general hidden talks about is the thin inventory near of civilization and he's concerned it's a thin veneer, that we think our institutions are so solid that our democracy is so secure that nothing can wipe away that thin

veneer of civilization. do you worry about that? >> i worry about it all the time. it's a very serious, sober warning. civilization, in part, is the institutionalization of the rule of law, of minority rights, of a free press, of the kinds of incredible guarantees that we made as a nation from our very founding. civilization also requires leadership so that when people start engaging in white supremacy talk and parade and they're in the ku clucks clan, we need leadership to say that's not acceptable. part of what makes us this dynamic extraordinary country which i'm very optimistic about

long term is your diversity, is the fact we brought people together from all over to be part of the american dream and the american experiment. so our civilization which has the attributes of the kind of institutional supports and democracy and citizenship and voting being absolutely core to that, has to be defended internally and externally. i'm just hoping more people, and particularly more republicans will speak up because if we begin to see the erosion of the rule of law and the erosion of our voting system and so much else, that's not going to stop by hurting democrats. that hurts our entire country. it undermines who we are as americans. so i think people like mike hey den need to be speaking out. >> joining me is gloria borger

and carl bernstein. senior political director david chalian. does it seem to you that hillary clinton is more candid than she was as a candidate and throughout much of her public life. >> she seemed to be so much more conversational with you, and she indeed unburdened. she's gone through so much, clearly. but one thing about losers, people who lose elections, i've spent a lot of time interviewing those people, unlike politicians looking for the next race, they sit back and think about what happened because they have the time to do it. and it's clear, not only because she was writing this book, but there are lots of walks in the woods as she talks about, and that she has given this an awful lot of thought. so i did see somebody different there who wasn't on the high

wire as she put it. >> carl, how about you? you wrote the book about her. do you see any difference? >> it's an admirable book and it's very reevivealing in many ways. >> she's funny at times. >> which she never demonstrated before. like your interview, she comes cross with the most admirable aspects of her intelligence, her conversational manner as well as her ability to synthesize ideas and analyze politics. what never comes through, though, in the book and in the interview is that she made it possible for donald trump to be president. the short% comings were hers, she shouldn't have been in a position where comey couldn't have taken advantage of the server. she put it out there for comey to investigate. it was her conduct that did that

in the first place. so some things she goes to others for, had they not been in place by her actions, including even with the russians. she's going to turn out, the russians were a lot more effective than is commonly believed in this election, and she knows some things too. that's evident, and i think i know from people that she knows some things that the intelligence community knows about what was done and about where some of these investigations are heading. but nonetheless, she allowed donald trump to become president of the united states through her own weaknesses, call it character, inability to campaign effectively, her actions -- >> david, do you think she takes responsibility enough? >> she does in the book certainly. she goes through a whole list of the mistakes that she believes wholeheartedly are hers and identifies them. i don't think he's quite as passionate about the externally

factors. those grievances get her most passionate writing administrate book than her own faults. this notion -- where you starred the interview with her, this notion of 25 years on the public stage and i can't imagine hillary clinton ever in the campaign would give you a demonstration of alternative nostril breathing ever. you look at that moment -- >> i got to say we were discussing whether or not to ask that question because it is in the book. it's a funny part in the book. i was like, she's not going to demonstrate it. >> if you know her, that aspect of her, that playful aspect of her has always been there. she's never been able to bring it to the table in terms of her politics. >> that's the thing people side about her -- >> everyone who knows her have seen it. she's funny, she's really funny. >> i think you saw that tonight

when she was doing her demonstration. i also think it has something with being a woman. the ability to be introaspecttive and saying i'm moving on to the next thing and we're going to do this and i have my organization, she actually made it very clear how much this hurt her and how she was trying to get over it. and yes, i think she did in the book and in your interview talk about things like the e-mails. clearly she can't get away from that, but it's very clear how much time she has spent thinking about what she did wrong and what happened to her. and she's quite open about it. i think part of that has to do with gender. >> she knows she bears some responsibility beyond what she says in the book. i've talked to enough people that she's talked to. she has a pretty good idea of how she made herself vulnerable.

that's the real point. and yet, we see her here, the brilliance of her analysis of what happened including the misogyny, it's all really there. it's demonstrable there. >> i thought the sexism and misogyny stuff was the most interesting stuff from the interview, anderson, because she even said, you know, i wasn't sure i wanted to write about this because people would say you're making an excuse, yet she did delve into it with you. i'm sure hillary clinton has these thoughts all the time throughout her career, but she never really publicly shared them, the deep thinking about those kinds of societal things. and we got that listening to her. >> former president obama will he discuss race in a different way now that he's no longer president when he's writing a book and looking back. as president he was very measured and careful and "n"

what he was saying. it will be interesting to see if time -- >> i'm sure he will. you're not looking for the next vote or the next campaign. you're not -- it's not a career move anymore. the book she's written in the past have been career moves. what's going to happen next and resume building. >> they're not very good books. >> she'll be looking to solidify a legacy. >> i was dreading reading this book. i read it over the weekend and i actually enjoyed it. >> it's a good read. there are times when there's sanctimony. >> we'll take a break. the white house is slamming hillary clinton's new book. how they're firing back, next. [fbi agent] you're a brave man, mr. stevens.

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misunderstanding of what he's been doing is exactly why hillary clinton isn't is it the president and is instead pushing a book with false narratives and false accusations and placing blame on a lot of other people instead of accepting it herself. >> back now with the panel. just before the break when i said i was dreading reading this book but i enjoyed it. usually to your point earlier it's about i'm about to run for president so i write a book that hardly anybody reads, but us reporters are the ones that have to read it. >> right. first of all, it's an interesting book because everyone wants to know what she was thinking and she delivers on that. she does want you to know how she really feels about comey. >> the fact she was sitting there on the platform thinking about other failed candidates going back all the way to john adams. >> how all these people

mistreated her and she didn't let them get away with it. >> and she spent time not making eye contact with people who were cruel to her. >> sarah huckabee sanders is wrong because hillary clinton's analysis and what she asserts about donald trump in this book is on the money. she's got him. she's got the information, she's got the analysis, she talks about the racism he appeals to and what happened during his presidency and about russia. she knows what she's talking about and it's really on point. but what she doesn't do is recognize that she may have been the wrong person all along to carry the message against donald trump. she's not effective at it as a campaigner. i'm not sure she would be today. she has been the most famous woman in the world she is as much or more of a

celebrity going into this election as donald trump was and she's evaluated partly for having been in this bubble for 30 years, the charges against her of being entitled, acting entitled. there's something to it. there's something about some arrogance there. and she's vulnerable on counts that she may not be able to help herself as a candidate but she is right about what she says about donald trump. >> you know, when she says things in this book, she's certainly talking about bernie sanders in a way that she wasn't talking about him in the campaign. and you can take issue with the facts of what she's saying or whether she should be saying it but she gets criticized if she holds back and doesn't say stuff but then when she does write stuff of, you know, thinking jason chaffetz and reince priebus and what she says about bernie sanders, people think, oh, she's gone too far. she shouldn't have said that. >> it's interesting hearing how

bernie sanders primary challenge was to her and still is tu this day. >> and that he didn't support her, once it was clear he wasn't going to win -- >> as she said to you, didn't offer the same level of respect by quickly moving to support her and consolidate his supporters to support her in a way that she thinks he did with barack obama. she clearly -- and still making the point that he's not a democrat, challenging him of what he needs to do for the democratic party. this is somebody who still to this day when talking to you is under her skin. >> i think she decided, if i don't do it now, i'm not going to do it. she criticizes joe biden who she says criticized her. >> let's get clear about this, she settles some scores. >> she probably made the decision, now or never and it's going to be now and i'm going to tell the truth about how i really felt and people are going to get angry at me and there it is. so what?

>> part of thing that happened with bernie sanders and during that primary campaign was a lot of focus on her speeches to the goldman sachs groups. and again, she put herself in that position. >> yep. >> bernie sanders didn't put herself -- put her there. she didn't need that money. she's the one that said to diane sawyer out of the gate, well, we left the white house dead broke. she made these errors and that set her up for a lot of things that occurred. she's never been a good candidate in terms of anything like her or her husband and she was, in many ways, the worst possible candidate to run against donald trump. >> we've got to go. thanks, everybody. coming up, we're going to go back to florida. bill weir made it all the way to the end of key west. he's off of that boat and has captured incredible images along the way. i'll talk to him about what he saw next.

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thing. he got on a boat and traveled the entire length of the keys. he joins us now. bill, what have you seen? >> reporter: well, anderson, when we left key largo, it was truly a trip into the heart of darkness. we had heard rumors that there were dozens of bodies floating, the destruction was unfathomable but the result is so much happier than that. it could have been so much worse. everyone we talked to, not one person knows and the guy that leads the big ships into key west, bringing big ships in with humanitarian aid. we had a supply delivery come all the way down, drove u.s. 1 and the roads are in pretty good shape and when they are not they are fixed immediately. high-tension lines held. we had water for two hours today. so the luxury of actually washing our faces for the first time since irma was over cuba. but it's still a big job ahead

and i finally got a chance to look at some of my photos i've been taking along the way as we followed that sort of line of tragic blown on to u.s. 1. we met billy the fireman picking up his toilet paper holder off of the ground in a stunned gaze and a box from the 1950s. we found a neighbor who promised he would return it to the neighbor. and then there was dub in marathon, florida, who rode it out as it was sandblasted into the elevator, the height of your chest. and the first thing he did on the left is hang old glory. there's also an american flag in this shot here. this is key west. just so many destroyed yachts, so many shipwrecks here. this was the scene right outside our boat today of people swimming, having a good time as they do in key west. and i do have to say, if you feel for the folks in the florida keys, you want to help

out, of course there are humanitarian organizations or you can hire a guy like captain bam bam. this guy risked his livelihood, anderson, to bring us down here, no idea what would happen to his boat and these guys rely on the health of these wearaters and t health of this economy. so all of the locals want the rest of the court to know they are okay and they're going to be opened for business as soon as they can clean up this very big mess. >> bill, dare i ask why they call him captain bam bam? >> reporter: because he played middle linebacker at key largo high school and hit like fred flinstone's kid, right? >> yep. >> i love the fact that you just knew that, you didn't even have to ask because clearly you had already asked him that because that's the kind of reporter you

are. bill wei rcr, yeah. >> reporter: we've been roommates for the past four days. >> please thank captain bamb ba. our coverage continues with don lemon. breaking news and it's a horrific one. eight nursing home patients die in florida in the sweltering heat. the home temporarily shut down now. a criminal investigation is under way. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. the very latest from the ground just ahead. anger and frustration in the keys. people want to go home. they want to go back home but are being turned away by deputies. look at that. so many homes there are damaged or destroyed. millions across florida still without power tonight. and hillary clinton, she had her say with anderson. now it's our turn to discuss, quote, what happened. is she in need of a