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for an inpept face-to-face interview. a revealing look for why she believes she lost the election. what her life has been like during the eight months since. we talk about james comey, president trump and about the russia investigation. i just want to be clear, you're convinced there was collusion? >> well, let me say if -- i'm convinced there was communication. i'm convinced there were meetings and phone calls. i'm convinced that there were financial entangle wants. let's wait to see what it's called. i'm convinced that there was something going on. >> we talked for about 40 minutes. my full interview is coming up, but first the day's news. we begin in florida and a tragedy that has increased the death toll from hurricane irma. at least eight residents at a nursing home in hollywood florida are dead and at least a dozen others are in critical condition. the causes of death still under investigation, but the nursing home confirms there was a power failure. no air conditioning for elderly
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residents in 90 degree and above temperatures. a hospital was just 50 feet away. now tonight there is heartbreak and outrage and questions. elizabeth cowen joins me now. how did this happen? >> reporter: anderson, as you said, there are so many questions here tonight in hollywood, florida, one of the biggest is how was this allowed to go on for so long? the call for help came in at 3:00 wednesday morning. an elderly resident at this hollywood, florida nursing home having a heart attack. >> as we arrived on the scene with our fire rescue cruise we saw that there were a number of people in respiratory distress and other distress. >> three people were found dead in the nursing home. five more people died after they were evacuated to a nearby hospital. the cause of death still under investigation. the nursing home says its air conditioning system lost power after hurricane irma struck on sunday. portable ac units were being used, but the facility was excessively hot according to
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city officials. >> once we determined that we had multiple deaths at the facilities and the facilities are extremely hot, with he made the decision to evacuate all of the patients. >> fire and rescue teams moiblizing nine rescue units. this blue tent directed to triage evacuating residents, 158 patients, some critically in need of care. they were transported to local hospitals. >> most of the patients have been treated for respiratory distress, dehydration and heat related issues. >> police so far declining to say just how hot it was inside the nursing home. in a statement the rehabilitation center at hollywood hills said facility administration is cooperating fully with relevant authorities to investigate the circumstances that led to this unfortunate and tragic outcome. our hearts go out to the families and friends of those who were affected. elected officials now asking questions. >> people are just absolutely shocked that someone in a staff
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would not know enough that a frail elderly person is dying of heat exhaustion and would at least know to dial 911. this is what is inexcusable. >> the building now sealed off as police conduct a criminal investigation inside. >> as a precautionary measure we've assigned police officers to go check all the other 42 assisted living facilities and nursing homes throughout the city to make sure that they're in sufficient care of the elderly. >> approximately 150 nursing homes in florida still don't have power fully restored. virtually all of them relying on generators to meet the needs of residents under their care. >> and elizabeth anderson, you're getting new information as to exactly when this nursing home lost air conditioning. >> that's right. the state of florida just put out an announcement that on september 10th the ac went out. there were portable cooler, but
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no ac. also another piece of information. there's now a more to her yum on accepting new patients. this facility can no longer take in any new patients. >> has this facility had issues in the past? >> we looked at state and federal information reports and indeed we did find quite a list of problems. for example, from the past couple of years they found that a temporary generator hadn't been replaced and there was no plans to get a permanent one. they calls found that the alarm on the generator wasn't being properly maintained so it could alarm that the generator wasn't working and staff wouldn't know. also, that they didn't maintain fire walls, that emergency exits were blocked. also problems with proper sanitation and one inspection found that for the small number of patients they looked at, a medication error rate of 25.9%. now, anderson, of course all those problems weren't associated with what happened at this facility, but it does tell you something about their history. >> elizabeth -- >> and all those problems were corrected. >> all right. thanks to r that, elizabeth.
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appreciate it. joining me now from fort lauderdale. jeffrey's mother gail died at that nursing home. i'm so sorry for your loss. when and how did you find out that she had passed away? >> this morning i received a phone call, believe it or not from a reporter that had asked me to give a biography of my mother and not knowing what had transpired, i just kept asking her what are you calling regarding? she said well, your mother has passed away. i said how did you get my name and number and i'm not quite clear on how this happened, because we were without any communication in our home because of the hurricane, so there was no way to hear this information as it was being broadcast. and she said the woman at the nursing home had given my name and number to her and she gave me the woman's name and said that's how she knew and she wanted an interview with me at that time around 10:30 this morning. >> i'm just stunned hearing this. you're saying that no one from the nursing home actually called
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you ask or anyone in your family to notify you that there was a problem there. >> no, they hadn't spoke to me. i did receive a call at 3:30 in the afternoon from a woman telling me that they evacuated the facility and my mother had passed away. she was a casualty to the events in the morning, but she was vague and unclear and it was really just an upsetting phone call. not one that was encouraging to hear about anything. >> of course. >> the hospital, though, and the people i spoke with there, they were incredibly supportive and they were very genuine in offering their counsel. >> stacy, i mean, i'm sorry to dwell on this, but i just find it stunning that someone in this nursing home that works there would give you and jeff's name and number to a reporter but not have the decency to actually contact you. >> no, they didn't contact him until later in the day. in fact, hollywood police contacted us before that, and we had to go down to the hospital to be notified in person even
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before the nursing home contacted us. >> stacy, had your family had any issues previously with this nursing home or with the staff? >> i'll let jeff answer that. >> jeff. >> sorry. >> you know, my mom's been there for a good number of years, eight years, and with that i have gone through the trials of staff changing and communication issues. they are difficult to get on the phone at some times. they recognize that there's always been an issue in the nighttime staff with the phone being answered and communication in that respect. so i did find it terribly odd that when sunday came and i couldn't get someone to answer the phone that there was a problem. and i tried over the those couple of days, but it just didn't dawn on me that there was a significant issue. and without communication, i really was out of the loop. but as far as past problems, it was just communication issues.
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the staff has never been in any way disrespectful to me or my mom, but it was always a challenge to get them to give me any input when there were things that came up with her care over the period of years that she's been there. i've always found that to be a challenge of pulling teeth to get them to communicate. >> if you would, just tell us a little bit what your mom. what kind of a woman was she in what kind of a mom was she? >> she's just another person you would see walking down the street. she's an american that loved where she lived. she enjoyed her family. she had a medical event that unfortunately left her where she needed care in a nursing home. so it's surreal that i'm sitting here where i was one watching these commentaries over the years and now it's my mom that is an unfortunate casualty to the lack of care that i think occurred for the fact that there was a hospital only feet from her door. and there was help literally feet away. it's just an astonishing chain of events that is hard to come
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to terms with so early. my mom was a really good person. >> i would imagine that having known there was a hospital 50 feet away was probably a source of comfort for you over the years to know that the hospital was so close-by. >> yeah. >> that was one of the reebs why she remained there is that if there was a need for further care, it was literally feet away. and they've used is it before. she had been there and she had friends in the area that were constantly coming to see her even after this number of years. and it fit the things that she needed, which was the engagement with friends and having medical help if needed. so we just kind of used that as the background to why we kept her there. >> jeff and stacy, i really -- i sort of don't know what to say other than i'm so sorry for your loss and for all the families who are suffering tonight. and obviously we'll continue to look for answers on how this could have happened, because it seems like they were without the main air conditioning for days, since saturday according to
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reporting. so we'll keep in touch with you -- since sunday, i should say. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> with millions still without power throughout florida, millions of people without power tonight and it is hot there, other parts of the southeast, the tragedy of that nursing home, it underscores that the task of getting the power back on, it can be a matter of life and death. and the clock is ticking. >> reporter: last night we slept in my husband's truck. >> jessica gonzalez celebrated her 20th birthday by waking up in her car with her husband and two-year-old daughter parked outside her home in le bell, florida. for now this is the most comfortable place to sleep because it's just too hot in their house that's still without power. >> did you think that after the hurricane came -- >> it would be this bad, no. >> like sleeping in the car. >> no, i didn't think that -- i honestly didn't think it would be that bad. you hear a lot of it's a category 5, cat bother 3, you
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know, but you really don't think it's going to hit at your house. >> meals are also cooked outside. >> this is just leftovers that nobody ate. >> and she's not sure when the lights and air conditioning will turn on again. >> do you think you can handle a couple more weeks of this? >> it's not like we have that much of a choice. we kind of have to. >> hurricane irma delivered the worst power out age in florida's history. nighttime satellite images show how the lights dimd before and then after the storm churnd its way up the state. the department of homeland security estimates that at its peak 15 million people in florida were left in the dark. some 20,000 power crew workers have been deployed against the state to turn the grid back on. con invoices of trucks crews the roads and cruise cut through downed trees to restore the electrical power neighborhood by neighborhood. >> they're trying to rig an electrical line from this rv
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into their homes to power up a refrigerator and some water pumps. >> you guys are getting creative here. >> well, yeah. >> you know, you do what you can do when you have to do it, you know. that's all i can tell you. >> so water got inside the house? >> with no power and the house caving in, bob and tara hahn have moved their whole family, ten children into their oldest daughter's two-bedroom house. 17 people under one roof. >> and this could be reality for how long? >> i don't know. they're saying that we aren't going to have power for weeks. >> during the storm a giant tree crashed into their home and the driving rain poured inside. there's no power and no answers as to when they'll be back. >> it's distressful. >> very. >> it takes a toll, i imagine. >> very much so: god is faithful. he's brought us this far. he'll get us through. >> how many people are still without electricity across the state and how long are they
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telling people it's going to take to be restored? i was in a neighborhood last night and they were saying september 22nd for that area. >> reporter: yeah, that september 22nd date is floating around. that is the estimate of one company, florida power and light. but as of now the state says that there are still more than 3.2 million customers, that's more than 30% of the state. and anderson, as you well know and you saw, when the power is out it essentially pral ice neighborhoods and communities. it's total paralysis until that power is turned back on. >> as people return to the keys to see what if anything is left in their homes. brian to do has more. >> in the florida keys the situation remains dire. more than 80% of customers are still without power on the islands. and most of the keys are without internet and cell service, leaving virtually no communication with the outside
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in one of the hardest hit areas. on u.s. route one, the only road in and out of the florida keys, local residents are on edge. at a checkpoint, tensions are at a boiling point. residents are being turned back by deputies, told they can't go home. a man on a three wheeled motorcycle shows a medication bottle to a monroe county deputy. when he's denied and tries to make an end run, the deputy snaps. the man wheels around and takes off the other way. three days after the storm, people have started to camp out at this check pointed. it's becoming a de facto refugee camp with a lot of frayed nerves. >> they're teasing you. all the way down here. i've got another 20 miles to go. my house is in good shape. i've got a generator, more food than i need. >> one sheriff's deputy explains why they're turning residents away. >> still trying to get hospital personnel down there. we're still not ready with everything yet. we just make sure they're safe.
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god forbid something happens to them, we want to be able to communicate with them. >> that explanation only frustrates -- >> they're saying it's for people's safety -- >> they can't call. >> that's my call. that's my call. it's my life. >> she's at the end of her rope. she just wants to get back home and protect her property. >> what are you concerned about back home? >> looting. like our stuff being exposed, you know. if we're not getting down there because they're saying oh, well, it's too dangerous, then who is taking anything to the people down there? our stuff is available. our stuff is, you know, open. they can hoot our house and break into our house. i mean, if they do, it's just stuff but, you know, we already don't have much. what are we going to do? >> we repeatedly pressed sheriff's depp tisz here for a timetable on when they're going to be able to allow these frustrated, exhausted people through this checkpoint and back to their homes. the deputies have not been able to give us a timetable for that.
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one man who didn't want to give his name said, quote, i'm fixing to bust through that line. the. >> next the struggle for survival in the caribbean paradise left in runls after irma. supplies are coming in. the problem is they need a lot more help. we're going to take you to the u.s. virgin islands for an update on the crisis. also tonight, hillary clinton on what happened in the 2016 election. her thoughts on her loss, james comey's intervention and russian interference. >> do you think this is bigger than watergate? >> i think it's probably bigger than watergate. 60 times faster. it lets you know where your data lives, down to the very server. it keeps your insights from prying eyes, so they're used by no one else but you. it is... the cloud. the ibm cloud. the cloud that's built for your business. designed for your data. secure to the core. the ibm cloud is the cloud for enterprise.
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hell. one week later there's a fight for survival. >> you have to -- >> you listen to the radio, you call, but nobody comes says this daneish resident of saint martin. communications will nearly whiepd out on many islands. there's little food, and clean water is scars. irma ham measured barbuda and anger will la. >> that sound, it was just all encompassing, and it really became at one point a question of whether we would live to see through it. >> now both island look uninhabitable. the french and dutch island of saint martin took a direct hit from irma. downed power lines snake through tons of are you able which used to be homes and resorts. thousands of u.s. residents have been shuttled out on military cargo planes. french president macron continues to visit the country's
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territories. >> it's important that as many people as possible, everyone who can and who wants to stays on the island of saint martin. >> for them rescuers brought supplies and much needed water, but there's only so much to go around. looters took to the streets, some recordel armed with ma shet tiz. they demanded anything. in the u.s. virgin islands this before and after picture is striking. the once lush paradise now deserted. the vegetation all dead. >> that's the roof. the roof is about to come. yep. there it is. >> terrified residents watched as roofs ripped off home after home in nearby saint thomas. fema says shelters are greatly needed and supplies are rushed to the area. the u.s. navy helped injured residents evacuate. residents who stayed behind are still in disbelief. >> i've never done this. no power, no water, no facilities. no, you know, food and things. i've never experienced anything
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like this. never hoped i would. >> cnn. >> incredible images. to get a closer look at the damage in u.s. virgin islands today. relief as we said is trickling in. the needs are great. sar sa is now back on st. croix where she joins us. it's been nearly a week since irma hit s. there a reason why it's taken so long to get help there? >> reporter: anderson, i'm having a little bit of trouble with communications, but i do hear you. i think when we got to st. john, i think what struck most of us as we were riding there is that here in st. croix, which is about 35 miles from st. john, it's lush. it's still very green. it's barely touched by winds. and then you get to st. john and
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every single leaf has been stripped from that island. there is nothing green. it looks so did he say lat, and people are living now under tarps. they were asking when is fema going to come with more tarms? we need more tarps. and also, we saw so many power lines down and so much destruction that there is a thought that it may take up to six months before anything gets anywhere near back to normal. >> what struck you most when you got to the island? >> you know what i think when you walk in as the boat drops you off on the dock, people there hugged us. they were so happy to see somebody, and they wanted everyone to understand what has happened to st. john. i think the general thought, though, is that st. john will never be the same. that some people will not be able to rebuild. some people had their entire life sort of savings into those homes that they built there. there were also a lot of dong i
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didn't say. it's known for its dong i didn't say. there were a lot of dong i didn't say walking around. and people are saying hey, the dong i didn't say also need food. it definitely needs help and more help. it was hard to watch because there wasn't a huge relief effort yet. even six days in there still wasn't a massive relief effort and they need that. what they're getting is a trickle instead of a flood. >> thanks very much. more on the irma aftermath next. alternatives coming up tonight, the white house doubling down on its criticism of former fbi drk tore james comey. what sarah huckabee sanders said next. my interview with hillary clinton. she often points out that even though she lost the electoral college she won the popular vote. i'll ask her whether she believes the electoral college should be donna way with once and for all.
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to see for himself. >> reporter: here in northern florida, many families still need a canoe to get to their front doors. shar main and todd are going back to their home in tiny green cove springs, florida for the first time since hurricane irma's flood waters arrive. they have no idea what to expect once they open the door. >> have you got this locked? >> i didn't lock it. okay. wow. >> it has just taken this couple a matter of seconds to learn their home has suffered catastrophic damage. >> wow.
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>> it's a nightmareish chaotic scene, smoke detectors beeping loudly and inses sentel. life's belongings destroyed. at its highest point neighbors snapped this picture reaching about six feet. the neighbors have receded from that high point but continued to flow in the house. >> it's not good. >> oh, my god. >> todd is in the air national guard. he was deployed to help hurricane victims as his house was getting flooded. he rushed home to be with his wife, who had evacuated to a neighbor's house. >> oh, my god. it's a mess. everything is floating. >> amid the wreck age the mull
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den hours look for items that are sentimental to them, but they still can't believe what the force of all the water did in their home. >> oh, the refrigerator fell down. did you see that, honey? >> it's okay. >> like so many people in the path of hurricane irma, their lives have taken a dramatic detour. >> i'm so sorry. you've only been married three years. relatively still newly weds. you've got a lot on your plate right now. >> yeah. >> their plan is rebuild and come back to this home, but first they have to get over the shock. >> pictures of his dad who just recently passed and then we have our photos from our wedding,
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graduation and just happy times. but it's okay. >> one family's heartache. it's just so sad to see and there are probably a number of families, many families like that all over florida coming back to see the remnants of their lives. are there still people who are unable to get back to their homes in northern florida? >> anderson, some people still can't return to their homes safely, but that should be change lg soon because although there's still a lot of water, it is receding very quickly. we've come to this street in a different part of clay county to show you this because this was some of the worst flooding in northern florida. the water levels were 25 feet above the ground level and we know that not only from the people who live here but also you can still see the waterline on some of the trees and all the telephone polls. right now it's recedingic requestel. the belief is that within the next day or so you won't see
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much water here at all. when we came here three hours ago the water was up to my waist and now it's below my niece. we can tell you the county officials here, anderson, say that about 1,000 homes have either been destroyed or damaged. anderson. >> gary, thanks so much. again, it's the shock for people who didn't expect to happen in that part of the state. president trump's examine wanted to visit florida tomorrow to tour some of the areas affected by irma, but back in washington today his administration is escalating its criticism of comey. sarah huckabee sanders accused him of inviting multiple federal laws. she said it would be up to the department of justice department to determine whether he should be prosecuted. what exactly is sarah sanders accusing james comey of doing? >> she bluntly accused the former fbi director of breaking the law by specifically using government equipment and the fbi computers to write those memos we talked about so often
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earlier. and it is something that she talked about with such a detail it was clear she was accepting a message from the president. let's take a listen. >> you know, the memos that comey leaked were created on an fbi computer while he was the director. he claims they were private property, but they clearly follow the protocol of an official fbi document. leaking fbi memos on a sensitive case regardless of classification vlts federal laws including the privacy act, standard fbi employment agreement and nondisclosure agreement all personnel must sign. i think that's pretty clean and clear that that would be a violation. >> now, the fbi director at the time james comey said that he did not violate any law. he was simply writing memos. you could tell as sarah sanders was reading this she was not feeking off extemporaneously. she was reading from a document. this is part of the white house effort to undermine, undercut this entire russia investigation. this is the third day in a row
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she has raised such serious questions about the former fbi director. chbl, he was fired in may by this president. >> and democraticically there's chuck schumer and naenls pelosi. they're at the white house tonight to meet with president trump. i think they're having dinner. what are they discussing? >> so interesting. this is the second week in a row the president has ekts tended a hand to democrats and at this hour the two top democratic leaders of the house and senate are still here having a private dinner in the residence of the white house. you can see up behind me there. at issue is d.r.e.a.m.ers and daca and immigration. the president hopes to strike a deal with them, some skepticism here about what actually can be worked out in this divided town, but it's a change of strategy from this president. >> appreciate you being there. thank you. james comey also came up today in my interview with hillary clinton. what she thinks about his decision to announce the e-mail investigation was being reopened plus what it was like for her to
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election. her defeat and president trump's victory shook the political foundations of this country. her lost was against all odds and in the months since a lot of people have spent a lot of sometime trying to figure out exactly what happened. hillary clinton hasn't spoken publicly much since that stunning lost but now she's written a book called what happened. she is speaking out and speaking in a less guarded way than i think you'll see she's used to doing in public. i sat down with her. and before we begin i just want to give you a sense of what she's been up to since she lost. hillary clinton has spent most of her adult life in the public eye. >> last night i congratulated donald trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country. >> her unexpected defeat left her schedule suddenly a lot emptyier. just days after the election she was spotted hiking in the woods of chap kwa with her husband and her dogs.
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fans and supporters posted various sightings of clinton around the northeast, at book stores and the local grocery store. even having breakfast alone in a restaurant in upstate new york. in december clinton was back in washington attending senator harry read's portrait unveiling, her first public remarks since her defeat a month before. >> after a few weeks of taking selfies in the woods, i thought it would be a good idea to come out. >> she stayed silent at her next public appearance, which was by her own account painful. after that both chin tons seemed to take time to enjoy themselves. they were spotted at broadway shows on a number of occasions. >> there is no place i'd rather be than here with you other than the white house. >> and slowly hillary clinton began to speak out in public again. in may cnn's christiane amanpour asked clinton why she lost.
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>> i take absolute personal responsibility. i was the candidate. >> she has had ten months now to reflect on her defeat and her next steps. >> things didn't exactly go the way i planned but you know what is this i'm doing okay. long walks in the woods, organizing my closets, right? i won't lie. shard on a helped a little too. >> this book is an airing out of a lot of things, but you come across as less guarded. is that hard for you? does it feel good to do it? >> it really does, anderson. i write in the book about how, you know, for so much of my time in public life i felt like i was on this high wire with no net. i was trying to balance so many different competing concerns. and i wanted to write a book that would be as candid, take people behind the scenes as i
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possibly could, hear some of what went on on the road, the kinds of activities that you do when you're running for president, especially as a woman. but also to tackle the hard questions like what happened in the campaign, what were the mistakes i made, which i talk about, and what else happened. and particularly with an eye to understanding what we need to know so it doesn't happen again. >> one of the things you write about is the inauguration. >> yes. >> i want to just take you back to inauguration day. you're standing inside the capitol waiting to go out on the platform with the former president, clinton, what was going through your mind? >> well, it was such a surreal moment, because usually a candidate who doesn't win the election without some other position wouldn't go. but as a former first lady, you know, my husband and i go to gnawing ragsz. it's part of the way we demonstrate continuity of government. and i really debated whether i could do it or not.
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>> you actually called up jimmy carter, former president carter and george w. bush. >> our offices were in communication with the kaerts and both bushes. but, you know, both george and laura and jimmy and rose lynn were going to go, and bill and i just said we've got to do this. so we were going, but i can't tell you i was looking forward to it. and as we were stand gs inside the door of the capitol before you descend the steps to go out to the platform, you know, i was just thinking of what it was like when bill won and what it was like when i was there in 2001. i was a newly elected senator, but vice president gore had lost and coming back when president obama was inaugurated. there was so many memories running through my mind and i did not know what to expect. and i write in the book about how really strange it was to sit there and to listen to the kind of speech that was so divisive, the rhetoric was hot.
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i call it a cry from the white nationalist gut. instead of taking the moment to say, you know what? i want to reach out be the president for everybody, you know. he didn't win the popular vote. he squeaked through in the electoral college. he had a chance to really begin to fill the role and that didn't happen that day. >> you talked about american carnage. >> yes. >> you white in the book that you were wishing you were anywhere else but there. >> anywhere else. bali, maybe. >> do you regret not going to bali instead? >> no. i am inflicked with the responsibility gene. i did the right thing. i knew i had to go, but i have to quickly add that the next day was great. you know, the women's march filled with enthusiasm and nearly 5 million people, billingest ever in our history. it really lifted my spirits. >> you also write in the pook that george w. bush reportedly said after the inauguration that was some weird shit.
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>> yes. >> and i said i couldn't agree more. >> and you agree with that sentiment. >> yes. >> it was so strange. >> is she sitting across from me right now? >> well, no. i phrased it very delicately. >> i know that. >> i went to the lunch afterwards. i did everything that you're supposed to do. i went to the lunch. >> you also said you spent a lot of time on the platform avoiding eye contact with people who had been cruel to you and said terrible things. >> yes. i mean, i was obviously aware that there were a lot of people there who had said terrible things about me. you know, i could hear some lock her up chants in the distance and on the way out i ran into one of the people in the congress who had been pursuing me. i didn't recognize him to be honest. >> you're talking about jason chafe fets. >> you thought he was reince piebs. >> this gentleman stuck out his hand and i thought it was reince peebs. >> he tweeted out a photo, in
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fact, and he said -- so pleased she is not the president. >> yeah. and i said i would have liked to have said yeah and i thought you were reince priebus. >> you call him a juan abe -- >> i did call him a juan abe gentleman ber. >> are you a le my fan? >> who isn't. >> people coming up to you who have said terrible things about you, not to your face and then being very friendly to your face? after the luncheon a congressman came after you who called you the anti-christ. >> came up to introduce his wife to me. i had never met him before. he's now our interior secretary as i write in the book. and he could not have been nicer in coming up to say hello, wanting to greet me. and i said well, you know, congressman, i'm not the anti-christ. and he immediately backpedaled and oh, my goodness and his wife could not have been nicer. but i make the point that when
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you are subjected to the kind of abuse that we see much too much of in our politics right now, both in person and online and people feel very free, anonymously to say terrible things or from a long distance where they don't have to look you in the eye, they don't have to relate to you or try to figure out, you know, where you stand on something, why you believe what you believe. and it's a real loss. it's a loss. i mean, this hyper participate ship and this negativity that i think has been really inflamed by the internet, i've given a lot of thought to it over the last months. >> you also have a lot of people since then, since inauguration day in the last eight months coming up to you, women coming up to you with their daughters and saying my daughter didn't go out to vote and sort of wanting solution from it. >> right. that happened to me. what's more common are people bursting into tears, welling up. i had a lot of that at my book signing yesterday here. >> do you give the solution to those who didn't vote, to women who didn't vote?
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>> no, i don't. look, i -- when it first started happening, it was so soon after the election and the election was so bizarre and close. it was hard for me to, you know, comfort somebody who was coming to me and saying, oh, i wish i had done more or i'm sorry i didn't vote, because i think this was one of the most consequential elections that we have faced in a long . >> it seems like you've been doing a lot of yoga. >> i have. >> and alternate nostril brea e breathing. >> yes. >> what is that? would you give me a demonstration? >> you're supposed to shut your eyes, i don't want to do that on
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national television. and then you hold it and breathe through the other one and keep on going. i can only say through personal experience if you're sitting on the yoga mat and doing it and trying to hold it and have a long exhale it's relaxing. i don't know if you can do it in the middle of hurricane coverage but in another moment you can try it. i found it quite helpful. >> i want to talk to you about james comey. when he said he was reopening the investigation, you believe that is the day that effectively your campaign was over. that you lost. >> i believe, based on a lot of evidence and a lot of alessments by other good analysts, nate silver being one, that was a determinative day because it stopped my momentum. i don't blame voters for
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wondering what was going on. you have the fbi director. and it's the last day it is try to break through a campaign when you had this hanging over my head and it wasn't lifted until the sunday before the election. and you had people early voting. believe be, oh, my gosh there is something here. i knew there wasn't, and i knew that was hard to understand why he didn't just call me and others up and say can we look at this. >> you believe you had been making progress winning back women voters. >> i'll give you an example i write about. i was leading by 26 points in the philadelphia suburbs. that could not have happened if i hadn't had a lot of women, and a lot of republican women, independent women saying they were going to vote for me telling pollsters that. i won those suburbs by 13 points. that's a huge loss. and i needed to win by probably
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about 18 to counterbalance what happened in the rest of the state. which is something we all knew going in. i talk about this in the book because i do want to answer questions that people might have. but what i think's important is to really take a candid, hard look about what the factors were. i hope nobody ever faces what i faced with respect to that, but whoever runs again, probably starting in 2018, will face russian interference, may face coordination between opposition campaigns and russians, voter suppression, will face endemic sexism and misogyny. part of why i wrote this book was not just what happened, but also to send up some alarm signals so others can say wait a minute, these factors could effect anybody, and eventually republicans could be affected. >> some of your critics say that's an excuse that in this
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day and age we had an african-american president. >> but there's a big difference on what motivates voters on race and gender. most people in my position who have run for office particularly at the state level, senator, governor and certainly my experiences running for president, you don't like to raise this because you don't want people to think you're making excuses, but i decided to raise it. i wrote a whole chapter about it because if we don't confront it, especially given the words and actions of our current president, it could be a big backlash that will undermine a lot of young women and their own futures. and now we know it's not just in politics, it's in silicon valley it's in businesses of all kinds. >> you believe there's a double standard that women -- when you were secretary of state and you were seen as working for
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somebody else's interests, the united states's interests, you were very popular. polls showed -- >> 69% at the end of my tenure. >> but that when you were seen as work ing for yourself as a candidate, there's a different viewpoint. >> anderson, it's not just what i believe. as you mentioned sheryl sandberg who just delved into all the research that we possibly have about these issues, when a man is professionally successful, he's seen as more likable. when a woman is more professionally successful, she's professionally successful, she's seen as less likable. when a woman advocates for someone else in my position as secretary of state for my country, for the president i was serving, people can really like you, like the job you're doing, i'm the exact same person. and all of a sudden i step into the arena. it's true even with something as mundane as if a woman goes to her employer and advocates a raise for someone else, she's seen as a great team player, leadership, and all the rest.
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if she goes and advocates for herself, it counts against her. where if a man does that, he's got guts and asks for what he wants. >> when we come back more of the interview. does clinton believe what comey did was personal? >> he's never been clear about his motivation, and what bothered me the most as the time went on after the election and we learned more about the open fbi investigation into the trump campaign and their connections with russia, that had been going on for quite some time. the american people didn't know about it. according to feng shui, the bed should face north east.
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