good morning. welcome to your new day. it is friday, september 15th, 7:00 now you in the east. we do have breaking news. we will show you live pictures of british police investigating a terror incident. those were their words, after an explosion on a london tube train. police say annism sraoeuzedded explosive device detonate odd a packed rush hour train. you are seeing it more on your screen. >> more than a dozen are being treated in area hospitals. president trump is denouncing an attack in a series of tweets. he said another attack in london by a loser terrorist. these are sick and dementeded people in the sights of scotland yard. must be proactive. live with all the breaking

details. what are you learned? >> reporter: good morning, alyson. well, you can hear four hours since this incident occurred. overhead, police helicopters are still assessing the scene. this is an ongoing investigation. the lop don metropolitan police force said only there is a tracer that is being purr saoufd. no doubt given this is now fourth attack in the last sucks months that those in government are dealing with the reality of the propaganda value of these attacks and the ability to wreak this kind of havoc. this is is a residential area. it is miraculous that only 18 people were injured. we can show you the video of that improvised device. it is incredibly crude. it is the broader impact at this

point. the broader propaganda. he saw them talking about closing all the loopholes and beyond. this really has to have hit home. as isis has new tainted its territorial gains have been sliced away in iraq and syria, this is now what those terror groups are looking to achieve. we have had the good old rhetoric of keep calm, carry on. back to you, chris. >> emma, thank you very much for the reporting. there are a lot of open questions. so we have a good resource right now. witnesses were there. this was done after 8:00 in the morning local time there rush

hour. passenger on the train took pictures of that burning bucket, what appears to be a 5 gallon or whatever the equivalent size is in metric, the white plastic bucket. sylvan, you are okay, right? >> caller: i'm fine, thanks. >> good. good. that's a little bit of good news in a bad situation. tell us what your experience was, please. >> caller: i was on the train with my phone. when you looked, there was some flames. and people started to run and to rush outside the train. it was a bomb, a homemade bomb. >> did you hear an explosion?

>> caller: yeah. i was able to hear the sound of the explosion. >> people were hurt. did it seem they were hurt from the bomb or the ensuing chaos of trying to get out of the train or both? >> caller: most people were injured when everybody tried to get out of the train. >> you didn't see none in the area where that was? there was nothing like that? >> caller: no. >> did you hear anybody saying anything about what they had seen or who had they seen there? >> caller: i decided to take a picture, a video.

>> sylvan, thank god you're okay. thank you for sharing what you lived with this morning. you hope the rest of your day is as peaceful as can be. >> caller: thank you. joining us now is cnn terrorism analyst paul cruickshank. >> fortunately, nobody was there. fortunately this bomb didn't go off, didn't explode. there was an ugg admission of some sort. ? we can see fire. when you look what you see is your standard white plastic bucket, if we zoom in there. and you see flames. and the bucket was being carried inside a standard shopping bag with handles. so something ugg united, as you say. >> some chemicals inside that bucket ugg united. they didn't detonate. that was a very fortunate thing. those trains are absolutely packed with people.

that's actually my local train in london when i go to the cnn bureau in london. absolutely packed like sardines. whoever set is it off is still on the run and may be connected to a cell. if you look at the fact that it didn't work, it might woeupbt to some amateurish. if it is tatb, which was used in the paris attacks, brussels attacks, inside that pink canister and it had gone off, there would be few people left on that train. >> president trump said we have made more progress in the last nine months than the obama administration had done in the last eight years. if you look at the line of attacks, at least in london in the last nine months, many many.

today's tube attack. june 19th, june 3rd, a stabbing we all know of. march 22nd. vehicle ramming attack. the manchester arena bombing at the concert we all remember. 36 people i believe killed. so it doesn't feel when you look at these as though the fight is working in london. >> the threat really is unprecedenteded levels. the attacks, six thwarted. most of the attacks have been more isis inspired or isis reaching out to people over the internet. we haven't seen plots like paris where a whole cell comes over and launches an attack. they are worried about this threat tempo in the uk. there are 500 active terror

investigations involving 3,000 islamist extremists in the uk. a further 20,000 individuals have been investigated since 9/11 and considered a residual risk. that is a huge number of people for security services to keep tabs on. as this threat goes on, we will see more attacks. >> you say there are 3,000 right now in britain islamic extremist suspects is what you're saying. >> active terror investigations. 500 of them. into 3,000 individuals. a further 20,000 individuals have been investigated since 9/11. still in the uk. but those investigations are no longer tough. but in some of the attacks we have seen this year, people who have been part of this residual risk bucket.

>> what does this mean for the u.s.? >> the threat is much less big than the uk. it a ameliorated the last couple of years in the u.s. fewer terrorism arrests. fewer terrorism plots over the last year, couple of years around 2015. deadly inspired attacks here, san been dino, orlando. people could still move forward. fewer americans are traveling to join isis in syria and iraq. and radicalization rates seem to be going down a bit. but of course it just takes a few individuals to launch absolute carnage. >> thank you very much for all your reporting. chris? more breaking news, this time-out of tphoerg tphoerbg. they fired another ballistic missile of japan in defiance of

u.s. sanctions, the third is since president trump fire and fury warning last month. will ripley live in tokyo with the latest. will, the distance relevant this time as well as the trajectory. tell us. >> reporter: 2,300 miles is how far this intercontinental ballistic missile went. that's how have it traveled over the japanese island of hoe kai da. it could have gone another direction. 2,300 miles south is the u.s. territory of guam. a place that north korea has threatened in recent weeks. so far they haven't followed through. this clearly a message they could point this missile in that direction. they could threaten the key u.s. territory. home to military bases and 160,000 u.s. citizens. for the first time since world war ii, people are ache waking

up to the sound of air raid sigh reps. listen. [ sirens] were. . frightening to say the least. threaten to go sink japan using tphoernorth korean nuclear bomb. no matter how strong the pressure is, they will not stop their development of weapons of mass destruction. in response, we saw a live fire drill in south korea. they launched a missile that could hit north korea's miss it launch site that u.s. officials have been monitoring. they saw it from the pyongyang airport, the same airport i flew out of just yesterday, arriving back here in tokyo. >> will, thank you. >> former secretary of state madeline albright went to

pyongyang in the year 2000 meeting with kim jong-un's father in order to broker a deal. it didn't work out. she joins us now. not an easy task. always a pleasure. let's talk about the current posture going on here. the president had just been talking about north korea before this launch, literally half a day before. when you look at this, the frustration is what else can you do if china, russia, if they don't want to step up and, how do you get progress? >> well, i do think we have to have a common approach to this. and what happened is secretary tillerson made clear today that china and russia have to be more helpful. they the did in fact, vote for security council resolution. there is an emergency meeting of the security council again today. i think we need to make clearer

to the chinese and russians that it is is in their national interest to do something. for instance, that large bomb that they thought was thermonuclear, i have heard radioactive air went into russia and china. at some point they have to think about what the effect of that is. >> russia knows what its trade obligations are. china as well. you know better than we do. >> they have to, in fact. the sanctions are supposed to stop that. they have to live up to it. all the countries have to put pressure on the russians and chinese to be more proactive. what worries me and listening is accidents. i think that's where we have to be very careful. i think we also have to get a more common message out of this administration. it's a little bit confusing. and all of government approach to it, and move towards i think

the six is-party talks. again, stories that came out today, the south korean president talking about the importance of working with japan and with us and with others. and this is a very difficult issue. i'm still the highest level sitting official to have gone to pyongyang. we were close to the an agreement. by the way, during that whole period, no additional material produced, no icbms. >> what does that tell you, that the u.s. should engage directly with north korea and secretary tillerson should go and have these sorts of conversations? >> they need to be within the context of the six-party talks. we also -- at that time we were in close contact with the south koreans and japanese. there has to be a common approach. and i think that we need to figure out how to use that diplomatic tool more effectively. i would never take everything

off the table. un i think . >> the president will be before the u.n. tuesday. what's important in that message? >> well, i think people are going to be listening very careful how he ses america's leadership role. so he somebody that understands how to be a part of solutions internationally, that we need to work with other countries that the u.n. is a useful venue to do things and that he does believe that action internationally is important. and i hope that he makes a speech that resounds there. they are in the process of being put into place. we don't know exactly. there is the issue in terms of how many sanctions get into place. always putting sanctions is a very complicated process. but i think it is a good tool at

this point because the north kor koreans depend on most things that come from china. and also the russians are employing a lot of north korean workers. there should be some effect. it is very hard to measure very quickly. and that's the problem with this. with the tools that we have it takes a while to see how they work. the whole of government from the united states and then working with our partners and being very vigilant about deterrence and then pushing the chinese and the russians within the context of the u.n. >> let me get your take on what's happening in london. sources tell cnn the device had a timer. that lends itself to some kind of sophistication. explains why uk authorities came out saying this was a terror incident so soon. what do you make of it? >> i think obviously the british have had a terrible time. and mr. paul cruickshank was

describing all of that. and how many events have been prevented and how hard the authorities are working. >> terms of the number of people, the number of case, the exposure to contiguous geographical areas. >> the police and the people that do investigations, how hard they work. this is very bad. and i feel so awful for all the people that live in london and what's happened. but unfortunately, this is the world we're living in. it requires cooperation and frankly not so much looking at them and giving them a lot of credit for doing something. they live off of being on the news and creating havoc. and i think just as, again, it was said a little earlier, we can't give them the gratification they get because it dismantled us. >> when president trump said we made more progress in the last

nine months than obama administration in the last eight years do you see a difference? >> not particularly. i think this has been a long story. the obama administration worked very hard on dealing with the terrorist issues. it would be really nice if president trump thought about what he was doing rather than always blaming president obama. >> he also talked about the travel ban saying that's why we passed the travel ban and it should be far larger, tougher, and more specific. but that would not be be politically correct. >> i think he is completely wrong. the travel ban is giving a lot of solace to those who would like to say we're a terrible country. and it does in fact, give examples and makes everything be muslim. and i think totally misunderstands. i'm opposed to the travel ban. i'm wearing my statue of liberty today on purpose. the strength of this country is we respect diversity, that we

understand what we stand for. and the travel ban is undercutting america's reputation and our leadership status and is something when you ask how. >> matt: is going to be received at the you know, that is one of the issues. >> madeline al bite, always great to get your take. >> i knew those pins were code. i knew they weren't just were fashion. it took me 15 years to get to that. to president trump. he has so many big issues to deal with that demand his attention. why would he go back to what happened in charlottesville and once again fan the flames of division saying that both sides are to blame for violence that happened there? he said it again. why? next. tech: when you schedule with safelite autoglass, you get a text when we're on our way. you can see exactly when we'll arrive. i'm micah with safelite. customer: thanks for coming, it's right over here. tech: giving you a few more minutes for what matters most.

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blame for what happened in charlottesville. david greggry you, reporter and editor at large for cnn politics chris s on ooliza. david gre gregory, what do you make of this? he has to know that going into this area only hurts situations, only makes people feel in some way, no matter how much he says he condemns them, he seems to be getting cover and drawing equivalencies between those who want to kill jews and other people in this country and other types of political violence. >> look, it's just wrong. i don't understand it. i think he -- he must be bullied

at certain times by some backup that he gets, some validation he gets from a position he has taken. it must strengthen his resolve to say i'm stick to go my guns. this is the position that makes sense. and maybe i had a point. i don't know in what quarters he gets that validation. but it is the wrong quarters. here you have a responsible conversation. you have tim scott of south korea. an african-american senator coming to him saying this is wrong. you cannot do this. he has all of these good points and turning around and doing this. i've nephew understood it. it is corrosive. it undercuts other areas where he makes real progress at least temporarily. it is is part of what we have come to expect with trump, which is you don't know where he will be one day to the next. chris, he says in his own words gets the reinforcement for

his. . i will quote him. a lot of people have written, gee, trump might have a point, when he talks about how antifa is also violent. the problem is he seems more focused on antifa and their violence in reaction to the white supremacists than he does the white supremacists violence and ideology. >> yeah. alyson, he's focused primarily on proving himself right. if you read the full quote from air force one on the way back from florida yesterday, you could sum it up in four words. i told you so. he is, to the david's point -- there's no political smarts in this, candidly. this was the lowest moment of his presidency. to relitigate it on what is honest there i a softball question. how is your meeting with item scott? it went well. there is no reason for him to have done what he did. he's obsessed with proving himself right.

>> chris, you have a brilliant piece about exactly this. >> see, now you're just pandering, but i appreciate it. >> it's working. >> we see it once again with the validation of the travel ban in the eyes of the president looking at the london explosion that we were reporting on this morning. he says the travel ban into the u.s. should be larger, tougher, more specific but stupidly that would not be politically correct. your take? >> yeah. everything is about him. the tim scott -- even when he is praising tim scott before he gets into the antifa stuff, he said don't forget i endorsed him very early on. talking about single pay or health care, i warned republicans if they didn't vote for repeal and replace which is what would happen. he is the guy who always said i don't want to say i told you so, but i told you so.

that's who he is. sorry, david. >> can we bring up the contrast? here he sounds like a crank. he's losing on that issue. he's bringing it up in the context of an attack by which we don't know all the details or who is behind it. the judiciary has stood up here. american institutions are working their will. there will be some resolution to this point. you contrast this to north korea where there has been some bluster on his part. the truth is strategy you cannily there's a real plan, there's a real approach. it's been measured because it is so dangerous. and i think here the administration is acting more questions alley with foreign policy officials looking at this in a morin decremee more increm >> all we see is a burning bucket. to connect this to the travel ban is such a stretch. >> right. it's a stretch. it is irresponsible.

it's just -- there's nothing that's helpful about it at all. and he allows himself this because it makes, you know, it makes him feel good. or what chris said a minute ago is right. there is not a lot a lot of political calculation. yesterday he reacted on the dreamers story i'm sure because he felt democrats were trying to make him look bad and he didn't like how it sounded in the papers. just how he reacts to something is so unnerving and should be to americans. we have an issue like north korea where he has been much more measured and pursuing in a different way. >> what's interesting here, chris, is obviously i was part of the team down there with cnn covering the storm. there is such opportunity for the president to focus a positive and progressive agenda.

you know, he could get florida delivered to him in the next election if he does this right, if he shows that the government will be there for them now, three months from now, 16 months from now. in a the type of political action that can lock in a constituency. and he could use it to create a message of positivity and unity organically coming out of it anyway. why distract from that with these? >> one other thing, chris. it got overlooked yesterday. he is in florida appearing with rick scott and others. what does he say at the end of that speech? man, i hope rick scott runs for the senate. what? these are things that really -- these are sort of basic blocking and tackling things. you go to the disaster zone. you try to talk to people. you reassure them. that's what you do. you meet with the only african-american republican

senator after comments you made even if you think we're right were hugely controversial. you say tim scott and i had a great conversation. we need to celebrate diversity and we're going to work towards that. it's not that difficult, right? and that's what i don't understand. he screws up things that really are easily -- hurdles that are not high, that are low. but, yes, there are opportunities here that he does not take i think because he gets in his own way. you know, he is so obsessed with making sure that people know that he was actually right about charlottesville. see, he was right. the question nothing really to do with that. how did the meeting with tim scott go? he's husband own worst enemy. i feel like i can just say that

to every question since he was elected president. >> don't worry. you have. >> he likes to attack back and forth. he is getting a lot of reaction from democrats and condemnation too. he likes to attack back and forth the various constituencies. >> phrmr. president, you will nr get praise for equating any kind of violence with what the kkk is about in the united states of america. don't waste your time with that. >> gentlemen, thank you very much. good to talk to you. an intense exchange between president trump and attorney general jeff sessions. the president reportedly calling sessions an idiot to his face and telling him he should resign. so what was the attorney general's reaction to this? we have former attorney general alberto gonzalez with us next.

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new reporting reveals the truth about the relationship between president trump and

attorney general jeff sessions, especially right after the appointment of a special counsel. the "new york times" reports the president called sessions an idiot to his face, said he should resign after learning that mueller had been named special counsel. the "times" says mr. sessions would later tell associates that the demeaning way the president addressed him was the most humiliating experience in decades of public life. but he didn't resign. he stuck it out. and he still supports the president. we have alberto gonzalez, former attorney general under george w. bush, also the author of "true faith and allegiance." he's also the dean at belmont university school of law. it's good to have you always, sir. >> chris, let me just say, i appreciate your coverage in florida. i think it was good stuff. and i think this is a very interesting story. again, i don't know what is being reported actually happened. but to have the president say

what has been reported would be tough as a cabinet official. and i think also the reporting was that sessions may have tendered a letter of resignation or was prepared to resign. as a cabinet official we all serve at the pleasure of the president of the united states. if he no longer has pleasure of your service, it is is appropriate to leave. obviously i think jeff sessions did the right thing upon receiving the recommendation from career officials at the department of justice that he should recuse himself from this investigation. i think it would have been damage to the department of justice for general sessions to continue to remain involved in this investigation. >> let's talk about the person, and then we will get to the political. true faith and allegiance, the title of your book. if somebody talked to you that way, even if they are president on the united states, how do you stay? >> well, again, it would be very, very tough.

obviously that relationship, the between the attorney general and the president, is extremely important. it's got to be one that's built upon trust. and people throughout the administration need to understand that the attorney general and the president had that level of trust. it is off the attorney general has to tell other cabinet officials, no, you can't do that. just the public per seen that about the relationship is very, very important. >> now let's talk about the politics of this. especially with what we have seen with comey and the questions about whether or not what he did was right. when i say what he did, you can look at a whole host of things, the way we conducted the clinton administration, he said he was closing it, what he said about trump. all of those list of things. doesn't it hammer home the need for a special counsel? you know, wasn't this the only way to go and maintain any kind of integrity of this probe? >> yes. chris, at the end of the day,

it's not about jeff sessions being involved in this investigation. it is about the integrity of the investigation. and i think as soon as there were questions raised about possible meetings and conversations between russian officials and jeff sessions, then i think the only -- the appropriate course of action was for jeff sessions to step away from the investigation. in the end, as i said, it's not about jeff sessions being involved in the investigation. it is what is the appearance of impropriety, to make sure that the american people have confidence that it is being conducted in the best possible way. once officials give the advice to the attorney general that he should recuse himself, it would be extremely difficult to ignore that advice and to continue to remain involved in the investigation. >> let me get you ahead on something else. the president went back to charlottesville as a topic of discussion and he once again decided in some way to put on equal footing the violence of those opposing the kkk with

motivates the kkk is approximate their violence. how do you feel about it? >> i don't know president trump. it may be miscommunication, the words he is using -- >> it can't be. it can't be, alberto. he's had too many bites at the apple. they're bad, the kkk, but there are also bad guys on the other side. as if you have, you know, an equal opposite to people who want to kill jews and lots of other people in the united states of america. >> yeah. and there is no moral equivalency. there is no question about that. the way to look at this of course is the fact that white supremacists, kkk, totally bad. cannot be supported in any shape or form, full stop. and then you look at promise committed by others for whatever reason. that is also bad. now, is that more equivalent seu

in my judgment? >> yes. >> no. i don't believe that it is. i don't believe it is. i'm not saying it is the same. they're both bad. i think the way it is being communicated is very, very unfortunate. >> it is a clearer case than that. the kkk is what it is. but you also have ms-13. they're bad too. you have guys who go and hit old ladies over the head and steal their social security checks. they're bad too. i think that you -- it's apples and oranges. these are people who relish the notion of genocide in this country. that is different than people who get carried away or just are malefactors in the name of whatever their political cause is, they become rioters. >> i agree. >> they are very different things, alberto. >> i agree it is apples and

oranges. no question about it. i don't disagree with you, chris. we have no disagreement about this. there is a difference. there's no question about that. no question. i'm not suggesting that there is no difference. there is clearly a difference. >> just to be clear, the reason i asked former u.s. attorney general is you have to respect his mind and what he's done and what he has done for this country. i always r. your take. that's why i love having you on on the show. thank you for being with us again today. >> thank you, chris. good to be with you. >> always, always. alyson. cnn does something not many networks can. inside north korea. will ripley previews his special report on kim john upbg's secret state, next.

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north korea firing another ballistic missile over japan, the second in a month with tensions escalating. tonight we have a cnn special report that takes you inside north korea. cnn's will ripley joins us now with a preview of his special secret state inside north korea. will, you have just such incredible access for us. we all get to see inside because of the many trips that you have made there. tell us what we're going to see. >> reporter: well, you know, a lot of times when we're in north

korea we're covering missile launches or the recent nuclear tests. we're driving through the city and you look out the window and you think, gosh, we could just pull over. that would be such a great story. i would love to ask these people what they're doing. this documentary is a chance for us to do that. yes, we were under the control of governmentminders. they supervise that we're doing and restrict what we can film. but there are opportunities that we have never had before, to stop the van and just jump out and talk to the people. this was not preplanned, not staged. those are some of the best highlighted in this hour. i want to show you some. in north korea, government minders watch our every move and restrict what we can film. even if this is what we want to see. high school students horses around at the beach. i can't help but wonder, what do they actually know about america?

>> translator: no. i just heard sports. >> have you heard of portland? >> no, haven't heard of it. >> ever heard of facebook, twitter, or instagram? >> translator: no. not at all. >> these teens have been told americans act and look scary. what would you expect an american to look like? >> translator: big nose with a hairy chest. >> well, i don't have a hairy chest. do i have a big nose? >> translator: with a nose like that it is sort of. they become visibly uncomfortable when they learn i'm an american. i'm the first they have ever met. thank you very much. it was nice to meet you guys. >> oh, my gosh. >> it's really interesting for you, will, to be in that kind of position. and of course you're understate control in that place. you wouldn't be there otherwise.

it is tell the audience how you balance your interests as a journalist knowing there's a line that is more real than most lines that you have to contemplate as a journalist. >> right, we obviously make concessions that we report than in any other country. i do need to point out the north koreans do not screen the video and they will see the documentary when the rest of the world sees it. when people watch this documentary, they need to read between the lines here. you will hear people that say things that sound crazy to you in the united states and many other countries, but these people from cradle to grave are force-fed the same message, and it's in the prop begaganda, ands

taught in schools. you will hear them say the same things. that in itself, having the opportunity to have those conversations is extraordinary in what we can learn about the north korean people, and it's an unprecedented journey up to a place we have never been allowed before, a sacred mountain one provence over from where they conducted a nuclear test. people will come away tonight having learned something about life in north korea. >> what special access you have had so long. secret state inside north korea, it premiers tonight, 10:00 eastern, only on cnn. the long road to recovery.

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victims and praised the responses. a tornado that was spawned by this hurricane caused enormous damage there. what is the situation this morning, nick? thanks for being there. >> reporter: good morning, chris. that's something we don't talk a lot about is how the hurricanes produce in some cases tiny tornadoes but in this case it was not so tiny in crescent beach. this is not normal, but it's starting to feel that way for so many people. just about a week since hurricane irma hit. senator marco rubio said something poignantly earlier this week, and he said usually when there's a hurricane people ask where it hit, but in florida it hit everywhere, and you saw places as though they were wiped off the earth by a giant hand.

the eastern part of the state here where i am at, it didn't get the wind damage that other parts of the state got but it certainly got the historic flooding. here in crescent beach you can see how terrible that tornado was that ripped through here. some houses still intact and others practically condemned. >> nick, thank you so much for walking us around and showing us what it looks like this morning. >> we are following the breaking news, including the news out of london. let's get right to it. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> welcome to your "new day." it's friday, september 15th. you are looking at live pictures here at british police investigating what they called a terror incident on the london tube train. a explosive device detonated on a train in london.

a security source tells cnn the device had a timer on it. >> nearly two dozen passengers injured and taken to area hospitals and none of the injuries at this point thought to be serious or life threatening. and president trump denouncing the terrorists. cnn is live at the scene in london with breaking details. >> reporter: we understand from british security sources that the timer signals the intent of those behind the attack to wreak much greater havoc. their working assumption is -- i am sure you remember the 777 bombings, and the fear they instilled here is not to be underplayed, but imagine if this had gone off during rush hour, or one of the key connection

points for the london underground. imagine what we would be looking at now. it almost doesn't bear thinking about. this device was incredibly crude, given this was the scope of the ambition of those behind this, and what should they be looking towards. that's the fear and the impetus that is ratcheting up the investigation now. our sources tell us this is very much the early stages of this investigation, and they are looking really there, first and foremost their ambition and intent is to close in on anybody that is involved in pulling this together. the broader context has to be if people are trying to pick up the skills of the kind of bomb-making to try and pull off something of this ambition, that is very worrying. the london mayor has told cnn this is part of a global shift on the part of terror cells, as they lose