tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN September 15, 2017 6:00pm-7:00pm PDT
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latest. we've been following the situation in st. louis. now the protesters have been marching after a former police officer found not guilty in the shooting of an african-american man. last hour, ryan, the protesters were trying to march onto a freeway. what's happening now. >> we've been with these protests since 11:00 this afternoon. this is largest gathering we've had so far. they're right next to a hospital. one of the things they have done is when an ambulance tried to get through, they didn't move out of the way for the ambulance to get out of the hospital. but you can feel the energy and the vibe from these protests. for the most part it hasn't been violent. we did have moments of violence earlier when protesters were being moved from a bus carrying police officers. that got intense. there was pepper spray
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university on th used on them. you look at the crowd. look how diverse this crowd is. i don't think when we were covering ferguson that we would ever imagine a majority crowd of white people would be carrying signs that say black lives matter. we're going to flip around so you can see this works anderson. you can see the medical campus breezeway there. you can see these signs. there's obviously a large number of young people here who have started to participate in this. they definitely want to make sure their voices are heard. >> ryan, if you can tell us in terms of the police presence now, it seemed like earlier they were taking a hands-off approach in these mobile marches that don't necessarily have permits. the police often do that so they don't end up with a confrontation. is that the strategy right now
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with police? >> that's what it seems like. in fact the only confrontation we had was at the moment with the buses were being stopped. outside of that, we haven't had that back and forth between police officers and protesters. when they tried to go to the interstate, they just kind of stood there and waited to see what was going to happen. they yelled at the officers and the officers stood their ground but listen to there was no pushing and shoving at all. that only happened when the bicycle cops came to move people. i heard dan talking there was no plan. we were told they were coming to the suburbs, that they wanted people in this neighborhood to feel the pain of poor people on the other side of town. they definitely believe that if you're poor or have issues or you're urban that you're not
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going to be remitt going to be represented. you can hear a guy right now with a cane who's walking with these protests. >> brian, appreciate that. i also want to check in with dan simon at another part of the protests. i'm not sure how close you are to ryan. what have you been seeing? >> so far the crowd has been appeasement we're seeing people of all ages, some young people and seniors as well. right now police are not impeding their progress. they're taking a hands-off posture. we're just walking with this crowd. we have no idea where they're going. they're holding signs. they're chanting slogans. you see people with the black lives matter signs. this is the central west end part of st. louis. there are a lot of restaurants and bars down the street that they're walking onto now. this is euclid avenue.
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authorities seem to be very prepared for any type of vinyls that might break out. obviously they've drawn lessons with what happened in ferguson. the national guard is on standby, and obviously lots of police out here. police are working 12-hour shifts. many have their vacations or personal days canceled. but for now, this crowd just walking totally unimpeded. one person told me they plan on staying out here all night, anderson. >> you were saying they were walking towards ewe liquuclid a. this is more of a business area? >> this is a business area. there's a lot of night life on this street. perhaps that's why they're going here. hold on let's listen to what he's saying. he says there's people in
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wheelchairs, to slow down. i can no longer hear you, but i tell you what, there are several hundred people out here. looks like this is going to go on throughout the night. >> dan, we'll continue to check in with you. with me is former alderman and ed martin. are you surprised at the verdict of not guilty? for people just following, this was a shooting that took place in 2011. prosecutors brought charges. this person left the police force. prosecutors said there was new evidence that led them to bring charges. alga allegations of the officer planting a weapon, that he believed that the drive was carrying a gun. are you surprised by the verdict? >> given the history of these kind of cases and what the
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missouri law is right now, i'm not surprised by the verdict. i am disappointed, though. the prosecutors felt they had a strong case, especially given video evidence, the audio evidence, the dna evidence. so we were hopeful that the system would work this time. what you're seeing is people taking to the streets to voice their displeasure and feeling once again that the system is not working for average citizens. >> ed, this was captured on video are you surprised that police cams and -- do you believe it's going to lead to more convictions or vindications for police officers? >> i hoping cameras lead to more transparency. there has been a different kind of presence with law enforcement and the national guard here. there's a lot more room for the protesters to be peaceful, but, look, i was republican chairman as you mentioned. the judge was a republican
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appointee. if you look at the ruling, as antonio said, it's not outside of what the facts were. i think the story is that the the prosecutor who charged this as murder one, this guy -- the guy that was killed has records. he clearly had been in trouble, but she charged it wrong. prosecutors set this up where she put all her chips in the center and the judge said i can't do that. she played politics to play to the black lives matter movement in st. louis and she lost that case because of it. >> well, i disagree a little bit with ed about those facts, but i'll say this. the attorney's office is part of the system as well. if you think that there was a mistake made on the circuit attorney's part, the people in the streets, their respondent
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response is the same. while it was careful to point out the faults of the young man, anthony smith, this officer we have to agree was a bad cop. this is a cop who shows up to the scene with an ak 47, an officer who makes statements that we were going to kill this mf before he does kill this guy. and he was released from the department, not fired, but allowed to retire. but this was a bad cop, and we need to be able to say that. what people are asking for is a level of accountability. when a bad cop takes the life of a citizen, there needs to be some way we can get some accountability. >> let me just say, we don't get to call someone a bad cop based on your description. the guy that was killed, he was 34-year-old, he wasn't a kid. this cop was accused of a crime and was acquitted today. >> released from the police
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department and the city of st. louis had to pay $1 million for what this cop did, so lets not forget those facts. >> i want to bring in jeff -- >> that's the problem, we can't even agree on that. this is how far we're apart. >> stay with us. i want to bring in jeff from the police officers association. jeff, in terms of the protest like this and the strategy for police, it does seem like it's very much hands-off, let the protests continue whether they have a permit or not and kind of avoid my confrontation unless they're trying to shut down a highway or smlts. is that basically the strategy? >> yeah. i don't want to say let them have their space, but if they're gathered on the street and traffic can get around through other arteries, why not let them just have that space where you can cane them and monitor them and keep things safe? i think that's the approach. the cops on the ground, they
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have ever-changing tactics that are dictated by the behavior of the crowd. >> jeff, i'm wondering were you surprised by this verdict? >> i was not. i sat through that entire trial. if you read the judge, he's very well-reasoned, extensive decision. you not only understand why he found jason not guilty, you should be able to understand, everyone should, find him free of guilt in this case. >> jeff, when the officer said i'm going to kill this mf, and then actually does, i think the counterargument is, look, a lot of people say anything in the heat of a moment and chase, and this was a vehicle chase. was that the explanation for those comments? >> yeah. the judge makes the comment that people say things in the heat of the moment and you have to take them for what they're worth and
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what happens afterwards. but the comments the cops make in the car chasing are after the suspect already tried to run over he and his pattern. they see a gun in his car and he's engaging onin dangerous driving. this is a serious situation. and the words that proceeded that, if he does this gun or points that gun at us, we're probably going to have to do this. >> antonio, is that the evidence you saw. >> no not at all. when you read this judge's opinion, it seems that he goes to great lengths to rationalize some of the language that this officer uses. you would not imagine the judge would use the same kind of leeway when it comes to an average citizen. if an average citizen said i am
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going to kill somebody and then kills them one minute later, we would say that that was premeditation. it's tough to imagine how you prove meditation, if you disregard the person saying i'm going to kill you before they cull kill you. >> it was self-defense as antonio well knows. the subject was armed with a gun, wasn't showing his hands to the officer. if that's not self-defense, i don't know what is. >> gentlemen, thanks very much. up next, british officials are warning another terror attack could be imminent after today's london subway bombing. the latest in a moment. sfx: t-mc sfx: netflix mnemonic t-mobile's unlimited now includes netflix on us. that's right, netflix on us. get four unlimited lines for just forty bucks each.
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bomb didn't detonate properly. 29 people were injured this morning. no critical injuries. this is fifth terror attack in britain this year alone. no arrests in this attack yet. they can't say latest on the manhunt. there are so many surveillance cameras in the subway system on the streets in england. they must be looking over all that to track down this person who was bringing this large device onto a subway. >> absolutely. it's almost certain that the individual, the individuals that planted this device would have been caught on surveillance cameras at some point during their involvement in the transplant system transport system in london. there are 12,000 cctv cameras.
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it's one of the most closely scrutinized cities in the world. and so there are specialized officers who will be poring over those images trying to build up a picture of what happened, trying to identify suspects. in terms of that investigation, the police are keeping their lips very tightly sealed about what progress they're making. they say they're making excellent progress but with not saying exactly what because of the nature of the investigation, much of it has to be done covertly. they don't want to come out and say what inroads they're making. obviously that is massive manhunt. the authorities say they put hundreds of extra police on the streets of london to try and track down the individual, the individuals concerned with this. try to make londoners feel more
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secure this evening. >> i'm assuming if this attacker or attackers or bomb maker or bomb makers are still on the loose, haven't been presented, it's possible that others associated with them could try to strike again. >> absolutely. that's exactly why i think the terror threat level has been increased from severe to critical in the way with a that it still because it implies that a terrorist attack is imminent. that's linked to the fact the individuals who carried out this latest attack or the individual, are still on the run. we saw a similar situation in june after the manchester attacks in which 22 people were killed following an ariana grande pop concert. the threat level was raised to
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critical then as well until the suspect was identified and those around the suspect as well. and so i think we're seeing a similar situation here tonight. >> obviously after the charlie hebdo attack where the attacks happened middle of the week and alert the terrorist were finally presented. the president didn't waste any time responding to the attack on twitter. theresa may says his speculation wasn't helpful. the president spoke out about the attacks before departing for new jersey. what did he say and what's the latest? >> hi, anderson. that's right. he said he wanted to begin by saying our hearts and prayers go out to the people of london after experiencing this vicious terrorist attack. he said he had spoken with theresa may calling hear wonderful woman and saying he expressed to her america's
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deepest sympathy and commitment to erad indicating the terrorists from our planet. the tweets he made, he called it a terror attack and said the terrorist was known to scotland yard. >> right. he said the suspect or suspects were in the sights of scotland and made it seem like that the british law enforcement maybe knew who was involved. that got some strong pushback from london police who said it was pure speculation and they didn't yet know who was involved in this i want. we also heard criticism from the prime minister herself, theresa may who said i never think it's helpful for anybody to speculate on what is an ongoing
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investigation. so anderson, this is just the latest example of the president's twitter habit causing a bit of confusion and consternation when it comes to international relations. >> he followed up that tweet with a tweet about the gripgs ban saying it should be stronger because of political correctness, that's holding it back. >> that's right. this is, of course, during the campaign he called this a muslim ban later on when the administration introduced it. they did not call it a muslim ban, but the current version targets six muslim majority countries and nearly all refugees. that ban is going through several legal challenges. but clearly here today he's coming out and using this terror attack to try to push for that ban. and he didn't so before in june. he made a similar argument on twitter, and so it's not surprising to see him do that again. >> we're going to talk about this with the panel next.
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our breaking news tonight from london, british officials raised the terror threat to critical saying there may be a imminent attack after a bombing on the london subway train this morning. 29 people were injured. a manhunt is under way for the bomber or bombers. president trump tweeted about the attack and prime minister theresa may said it wasn't helpful. if there was a terror attack god forbid in the united states and great big tweeted out very soon after, attackers were known, on
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the fbi radar, i think there would be an ourng about that sort of comment, do you think so? >> clearly he should have been more proactive. it's hard to get to that middle of an attack where they're still trying to access who did it, who else was involved, are there other attackers, all the things you go to. there's a file you can pull out that gives a quick internationally accepted answer, we're with you, our hearts and prayers are we, and anything you need -- >> which he later on said. >> after someone handed him the file later on. my argument was this was an avoidable issue for the president. very easily done by just saying nothing until he had the opportunity make an official statement. again, it doesn't help because they are middle of it. nobody likes to be poked at all let alone middle of trying to assess the damage. >> the damage of weighing in
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early on on twitter early in the morning after he's just seen something on television, early information is often wrong. when there was an attack in the philippines, he went on twitter saying -- i think he said it live on television that it was a terror attack, turned out to being a robbery. if it's something the american people don't have to know instantly. >> he's a casual observer as opposed to president of the united states. he's the president of the united states and those tweets and those words have consequences and the fact he continually does this is a problem. it doesn't seem that it's going to subside at all. bryn britain is our most important
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ally. it's just not responsible. this is going to get him in trouble internationally at some point if it hasn't already, we haven't seen it quite yet but it still continues to be a concern, i'm sure general kelly was looking at this saying, mr. president, please can you just wait until we know the facts? i'm sure that his national security team hadn't even briefed him yet. i believe it was 6:20 in the morning with this happened. >> i think for quite some time since kelly took over as chief of staff the president has been relatively disciplined with regard to twitter, so, so. in 23 minutes is when the president tweeted about this. he not only speculated about the cause of it, he said these are sick and demented loser
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terrorists. but for him to say scotland should have been more proactive, clearly that's a problem. to follow up using this as an opportunity push for his travel ban is a problem. when we're talking about britain who is not just an ally be an intelligent pattern. general mcmaster tried to clean it up. >> i think the president has visceral reactions to these things. why wouldn't he. we've all seen his string of attacks in london and we're sitting here thinking what are they not doing that's causing this, and are we doing everything here in the united states that we're supposed to be doing to stop it from happening here? yes, he got some diplomatic blowback today, and his visceral reactions manifests in him. >> yes, sir the gun.
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he don't think he shouldn't wait sometimes, absolutely. but communicating vigilance to the american people isn't a bad thing. >> do you think that should be something, the first reaction should be we suspect britain and let's see what's going on. and later on you can say we're going to be vigilant, these are continuing problems, we're monitoring this. i don't think the context is prop proper. >> it is an action of someone who still views her as an observer of an event, no the the leader of the free world. and then 30 minutes later, you know, tweeted out something like we're devoting all our resources, we've offered all our help this works appears to be a terror attack, people are on the loose.
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>> even a travel ban. >> i just don't understand why he still has access unobserved to his twitter, to his phone like that. i know he's the president and he can do it. but i just want to go back. do you think that this was ill advised today. >> sure. i would have waited. i worked for a president that didn't tweet and he typically waited and most presidents have done that. but we have to acknowledge this president doesn't act like any president we've had. he tends to put his visceral emotions on the table. >> stop right there because right before you said that last thing, i think this is one moment where actually i agree with four republicans on the panel. i just want to observe that. it never happens. as anderson said coming in, there has been a whole series of terrorist attacks in london. he has tweeted after every one of them but one.
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the one terrorist attack he did not tweet after was when a group of muslim were run over by a van. same thing -- when he went after, of course, the mayor of london in one of these and tied it to the travel ban. he did not tweet after muslims were attacked by terrorists in minnesota. he did not tweet directly after the charlottesville terrorist acts. so what troubles me about the way this is interpreted is that it's simply that he finds it okay to tweet when it ratifies his agenda. but when it involves other things, he's not going to tweet. and that, i think, is really troubling. >> more of the panel after the break. when we come back, the latest media target. espn anchor jemele hill said.
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they are not being dealt with enough, especially after the president's response to the white supremacist violence in charlottesville. now the president has turned to a new target on twitter, jemele hill. what has press secretary sarah sanders called for the espn to fire her, this morning president trump tweeted espn is paying a really big price for its politics and bad programming. people are dumping it in record numbers. apologize for truth. does it concern you that the white house is weighing in on a private company's hiring or firing decisions? >> of course. this is not something that the president of the united states should be weighing in on directly.
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so you would would argue it's a free speech issue. jemele hill that see right to say what she wants to say and espn can discipline her if they so choose. in media we have first amendment rights here however you feel about what she said. i just feel that this is one of those areas where the president continues to step in it. there's a racial divided in this country that's been going on for a while. but the president of the united states is not helping to heal this in any way. he continues to open the wounds with this. >> one of the things that sarah sanders pointed out is that espn did fire curt shilling when he made comments that other people found offensive. a woman named linda cohen when she criticized business decisions espn made, and
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commented on the effect of political leaning they may have. >> conservatives were very upset during the obama administration when they claimed that the left would go after religious organizations or religious free speech in those areas. so we can't have it both ways. so what the president is doing is not a republican no are a conservative principle by any means. >> i agree with sarah with regard to espn as a company if they're going to have a standard with regard to free speech that needs to be across the board. she is entitled to free speech, god bless america. she's also going to face some backlash just like curt shilling did. i do think if espn is going to have a standard with regard to political speak whether it's on twitter or on the air, it needs to be across the board. here's the problem with donald trump weighing in picking this as a battle which i don't think he shouldn't now we have al sharpton saying if espn pushes back on her, they're going to face the wrath of the civil
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rights community. >> attacking somebody in the media is obviously something the president has done time and time again. he clearly enjoys it or feels like -- he's not doing it by accident he clearly believes this does something for him. a lot of people, you know, certainly don't like what she said and a lot of people don't like media organizations who he also goes after. >> he's acting like a citizen rather than the president. we have north korea threatening to nuke us all. we've got a potential terrorist threat in england, and they are spending time at the president podium talking about a personal tweet of a woman on espn. it's not presidential. it's not healing. is it kind of ironic that donald trump the man who's never apologized once in his life is squg for an apologize? >> conservatives, i think, are
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legitimately concerned about the double standard at espn. you see what happened to shilling and cohen. she's getting a slap on the wrist and now they have a memo saying we're not a political organization and we're going to move on from there. she said the president was largely surrounded by white supremacists. she i i think conservatives are right to be worried about what's going on there as a matter of programming. but i also think the white house shouldn't weigh in on this. it's a free market issue. if i were espn, i might want my anchor to drive people away. >> people boycott with their eyes all the time. if this is something the country doesn't want, then they won't watch espn. this is not an issue for the
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people protestsing the acquittal of the officer who killed someone in strusz. >> we're in this young and trendy area in st. louis. still, hundreds of protests out here. we're walking by this mexican restaurant right here. this is an angry crowded, anderson, but they're not militant. they've been totally peaceful and the police have been letting them go where they want to go. some people are wearing masks, and that could to be honest spell trouble for later. we're going to have to wait and see what happens tonight as the night goes on. but i can tell you that there is a heavy police presence out
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here, but they're not interfering with the protesters at the moment. >> explain the genesis of this. once this verdict came through which was a closely watched trial in st. louis, the protests sprang up immediately right after that. >> that's right, right outside the courthouse you had a couple hundred people come to the courthouse almost immediately after the verdict. there were some people in that crowd who were throwing rocks and throwing water bottles and police. we saw a violent clash. police used pepper spray to get the crowd under control, and a number of people were arrested. and then things started to calm down after that, and then word spread. there were questions like where should we go and march?
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>> we'll continue to check in with you. law enforcement analyst charles ramsy. chief ramsy, there was a lot of evidence against this officer in this case. he was recorded saying during this car chase saying we're going to kill this mf. the gun found in the car had dna on it only from the officer, not from the suspect. were you surprised by the verdict or is all of that explainable because clearly to the judge it was? >> i wasn't surprised of a read the judge's verdict, 30 pages. i was concerned, there's no question about that, and it doesn't look good. the comment that the officer made during the chase is certainly inappropriate. i've been in car chases. it is highly stressful. you're subject to say just about anything. that doesn't mean you're guilty of murder. so there are a lot of things that he did that weren't consistent with policy. he had an unauthorized weapon,
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he handled evidence inappropriately. all those kinds of things. he was charged with first-degree murder and you have to be able to prove it beyond all doubt and the beyond all reasonable doubt, and the state was enabling to do that. >> he had his hand on his weapon heading up there, the idea is "f" he was really wanting to kill him, he would have had the gun out already. >> i mean, that's kind of hard to say. first of all, if you go back to the church's chicken incident, this suspect did ram the police car a couple times, drove off at a high rate of speed. they were engaged in a chase that lasted two or three minutes before they actually confronted the individual the second time. if he had his hand on his gun at
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the ready, maybe he felt comfortable that he could draw quick enough. i probably would have had mine out if i thought the guy was armed. but there was a lapse of time because the time he approached the car and the shots. i understand how people feel because they don't trust the system. if the decision is anything other than what they want it to it seems like on a protest like this it's got to be very difficult for police because again it seems what spontaneous. people not really even -- i'm not sure everybody really knows where they're going to go. i guess a small number of people are making the decision ad hoc. it's got to be hard for police to strike the balance between letting people protest with or without a permit and then trying to stop them from doing certain things. >> well, it is, but we're kind of used to that now as a profession where you have these spontaneous protests. you monitor, rerult traffic.
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the more troubling thing, though, is what i saw earlier today because missouri is an open carry state you saw some people openly carrying firearms. we saw that in charlottesville and in dallas before those officers were shot. that is very dangerous and that's just a tragedy waiting to happen. to have people at a protest and you introduce women's on top of that, not much good can come from it. >> as a backdrop to the protests tonight the department of justice announced they're scaling back the obama administration's program to reform local police departments. i'm wondering what your thoughts are on that and what kind of message it tends. >> you know, i cocharmd president obama's task force. i actually asked for the justice department to come in and take a look at our democratic. i thought it was very helpful. listen, i understand that there's no one way of doing things, but i do think having an outside body come in and take a look at a department, make recommendations is something that can benefit both the
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department and the city that that department is in. i have mixed feelings. i'd like to see exactly the model that they are proposing and how it actually works, because sometimes, you know, you do need that outside look at a department if you're going to really make reforms. >> charles ram i, appreciate your time. thank you. coming up, what president trump said today about north korea's latest missile launch. we also have a rare look at life inside north korea, a preview of cnn's special report which starts at the top of the hour. (avo) lose weight and keep it off with contrave. it's fda-approved to help adults who are overweight or struggle with obesity. contrave is believed to work on two areas of the brain: your hunger center... i'm so hungry. (avo) to reduce hunger. and your reward system... ice cream. french fries. (avo) to help control cravings. one ingredient in contrave may increase suicidal thoughts or actions in some children, teens, and young adults in the first few months. serious side effects are mood changes like depression
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what more are you learning about it tonight? >> reporter: north korean state media just within the past few hours released mimgz images of the missile. the same one they launched over japan a couple weeks ago causing air raid sirens to go off again for many residents of hokkaido. the first time since world war ii that people are hearing sirens and being told what to do in the event of an attack. very, very troubling for people in the region. the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley talking about the fact that diplomatic options may be running out which when she was speaking from washington just ahead of the emergency security council meeting. she said that there are plenty of military options and president trump alluding to that as well. i can tell you what i was in north korea just last week, none of that rhetoric from washington is intimidating them. in fact, they say these sanctions and the pressure from the washington and the u.n. just makes them want to accelerate their women's program further and test more missiles like this. >> will, you've spent so much
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time in north korea over the last couple years. you've got a special coming up on cnn. you've got unprecedented access inside the country. what are we going to see tonight? >> we spent 15 days in north korea and there have been so many times i've been there and we're heading to a shoot and i'm looking out the window of the van just wush wishing that we could stop and pullover and actually talk to people and ask them about their lives and for the first time ever we had an opportunity to do that. you know, we're constantly under the supervision of government minders. they had an agenda. things that they wanted to show us, but some of the best moments that you're going to see in just a couple of minutes were these unscripted moments where we were able to stop and kind of in an unplanned way approach people and ask them questions. so like these young people that we found in the clip you're about to see. >> in north korea government minders watch our every move and restrict what we can film, even if this is what we want to see. high school students horsing around at the beach. i can't help but wonder what do
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they actually know about america? >> translator: no. i just wear it to play sports. >> have you sever heard of portland trrnls haven't heard of it. >> have you ever seen any america movies or american music transno. >> ever heard of facebook or twitter or instagram. >> translator: no, not at all. >> these teens have been told americans act and look scary. >> what would you expect from an american? what would you expect an american to be like? >> translator: big nose with a hairry chest. >> big nose and hairry chest, huh? well, i don't have a hairry chest, you tell me, do i have a big nose? trrnls with a nose like that, it is sort of. >> have you guys ever met an american before? >> translator: they become visibly uncomfortable when they learn i'm an american. i'm the first one they've ever met. >> i won't interrupt your game any longer. thanks so much of the it was nice to meet you guys. >> when you listen to these north koreans you need to read
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between the lines because everything they're saying is everything their government has been telling them. everything they hear has been vetted and approved by their authoritarian government. to be able to travel all the way up to the border near china the first time cnn has ever been there really unprecedented and the pictures are truly extraordinary. >> i look forward to that. thanks very much. will's special report secret state inside north korea starts now. this is the north korea you know. this is the north korea you've never seen. stories you've never heard. >> is that a legend or did that actually happen? >> translator: our general is really a person who heaven sent to us. >> places you've never been. people with a common enemy. who do you want to
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