this puzzle we're trying to put together. who was responsible for the armored car robbery in seattle. who participated in the ukaia robbery. all of these questions could be answered by tom martinez. because he had been solicited by bob, and bob had told him about all these different things that they had done and they were doing. it was martinez that basically introduced us to the book for turner diary. it's a fictional account of a group of people just like we're talking about, that ultimately managed to overthrow the united states government. >> december the 16th, 1991, today it finally begins. after all these years of talking, and nothing but talking, we have finally taken our first action. we were at war with the system. and it is no longer a war of words. in the book, they're not talking

about overthrowing the government, they're overthrowing it. >> bob matthews took this book as his bible. and he followed it. so in the turner diaries, the characters get counterfeiting, armored car robberies, executions. and that's what the order did. so martinez was a wealth of information. you might say we handled all the little pieces and he was able to move them around for us and show us where they fit. once we had the agreement made with tom martinez that he would help us, we knew we had to be patient, like the hunter, we had to wait for bob matthews to contact and instruct martinez. in the meantime, we had not been idle. we were moving at lightning speed. and we greatly increased our surveillance of gary yarbrough. >> so we let a couple of agents go up to yarbrough's house. all of a sudden they see

yarbrough and he fired three shots out. by shooting at those two people, he committed a crime called assault on a federal officer. that gave us the ability to get an arrest warrant for gary for shooting at the two agents, and a search warrant for gary's house within like a day. so we went to gary's house to arrest him. >> but he saw us coming. and he bailed out of his house wearing nothing but a t-shirt and a pair of pants. >> gary escaped that night. but the astounding amount of evidence and information we got upon searching gary yarbrough's house was unbelievable. >> we found all kinds of documents that were written by the order. command structure, and all the members, and their code names. all identifiable. now we've got the whole story. now we can see everything. >> we saw guns, dynamite,

ammunition, swastikas on the wall, and both me and my partners saw a mac 10 sub machine gun which we knew was the type of weapon used to kill bird. and we both said, you don't think they're stupid enough to have kept that weapon, do you? we both said, we better find out. the next morning i get a phone call from the firearms examiner in washington that said, that is the gun that killed allen bird. >> how did you feel? >> total exhilaration. just total, gotcha. talk about physical evidence. they kept this gun. this gun killed allen bird. >> here we are, now chasing one crime after another, and finally we've caught up. we felt like we had enough information to successfully bring forth criminal charges, and receive a conviction. there was a cat-and-mouse game. we were right on their heels and they were running from us now.

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after we had the confrontation with yarbrough in october 1984, we got a great deal of intelligence information that finally started to put together the little pieces of the puzzle that were missing. now we felt like we had enough

information to successfully bring forth criminal charges. there was no more cat-and-mouse game. we were just right on their heels. and i wanted to take them all down as soon as possible. because they were growing in numbers with a goal of overthrowing the united states government. and eliminating jews from the face of the earth. >> they were headed wrong, and they were headed wrong fast. they robbed armored cars, they shot a talk show host. it was a scary thought, because the principal character in the turner diaries was at fbi headquarters. there was only one way to stop them. and that was to put as much pressure on them as we could, to prove the crime they committed and take them down. >> we knew that our inform maai tom martinez, was the link to matthews and his followers. in about october of 1984, we found out in a phone call that

came in to martinez with instructions as to where to go to meet bob. and that was what we were waiting for. and so the real purpose in having martinez meet with matthews is in hopes that matthews is going to bring martinez into the core of the group and we'll have a lot of the members there, people to make significant arrests. we were going to arrest whomever he meets with. >> the day before thanksgiving in 1984, martinez flew to oregon. we had agents inside the airport. matthews walks up by him, martinez sees him. martinez basically follows matthews out. our guys detected a guy hanging around in the back, they could tell he was watching martinez. and matthews. and he went outside. this guy gets in the car. it turns out that guy was gary

yarbrough. as they're driving, martinez says, i made a reservation at such-and-such a holiday inn. matthews says, don't worry about that. we've already made reservations for you at the place we were staying. that turned out to be the capri motel. >> that scared tom. that was an immediate kink in the plans. he's thinking to himself, oh, man, they're going to take me someplace where the fbi won't know where i'm at. but we tracked him to the motel. and we managed to get a call to him, to let him know that we knew where he was. and a raid was planned on the motel. martinez was told to stay in his room. not to leave for any reason. >> daylight comes. we were getting ready to make a bust. all of a sudden i hear this commotion. >> as it happened, matthews walked out just before the raid was to take place. i don't know what he saw. but something spooked him.

and he jumped and ran. matthews ran down the stairway and runs across the parking lot. he was on foot. in the meantime, i could hear noise coming from the back. i ran to the back window and i look out, and there's yarbrough hanging from the window sill. as soon as he hits the ground, he's got pistols jammed at him from every different angle. one thing i noted was there was hand grenades sitting on a night stand. and i saw some long weapons in there as well. so the agent who went in the room with me, he had seen matthews run down the street and he said, one of the guys ran down the street. i said, let's go. so we started chasing after him. two other agents were in front of us chasing after matthews. and matthews turned inside this house and was waiting at the corner, waiting for the first guy to come across. as soon as the first agent came

around the corner, he spotted matthews and ran to a slide like they do in baseball. when he did, matthews opened up on him. the bolt went through his foot. the next pursuing agent was a shotgun fired back at matthews. >> and only hit his hand. matthews' hand looked like a cartoon thing where you hold your hand up and you could see through it. it was just mangled. >> i started tracking him. i'm looking for blood spatter. at that point, all i could think of is hand grenades i seen in that room. i'm thinking, he's going to lob a grenade on us. but you do what you've got to do. he goes into this heavily vegetated area. i'm following him. but the last i saw of matthews was his blood trail. and i had no idea where he went. >> we got gary yarbrough. bob matthews escaped through us,

because we had no idea where he would go next. >> it was a scary thought. because somebody like matthews, he might be hiding out, but he's waiting to get his army together. so we had to locate him and take him down, fast. we just got to take it one game at a time. next question. odell. odell. can you repeat everything you just said? my livestream won't load. (blows whistle). technical foul. wrong sport. wrong network. see you need unlimited on verizon it's america's largest most reliable 4g lte network. it won't let you down in places like this. even in the strike zone. (laughs). it's the red zone. pretty sure it is the strike zone. here use mine. alright. see you on the court champ. heads up! when it really, really matters you need the best network and the best unlimited. plans now start at $40 per line for four lines.

in the fall 1984, after the shootout in portland, the last i saw of matthews was his blood trail. and i had no idea where he went. >> bob matthews escaped through us, because we had no idea where he would go next. >> somebody like matthews, he might be hiding out, but he's waiting to get his army together. so we had to locate him and take him down, fast. >> fortunately, within a matter of a few days, through some informants that we developed, we were able to locate the whereabouts of bob matthews and six members of the order to his hideout on the puget sound in washington. when i got to whidbey island, it was december the 7th, 1984.

and i didn't know this, but on november the 25th, bob matthews had pulled all of his people together into their hideout and drafted a letter to the united states congress and it was a declaration of war. so bob matthews was permitted to fight to the end. but so were we. >> they were staying in two different houses. the houses were approached. people in one house all surrendered. when we approached matthews' house, matthews was given an opportunity to surrender and refused to do so. >> come out with your hands up. >> we did everything we could to try to get him out of there. and when we decided that bob wouldn't come out, we made a plan to go in and get him. >> dozens of fbi agents armed with automatic weapons and dressed in full combat fatigues have been been at the scene.

>> bob was upstairs. he had multiple weapons and lots of ammunition. so we moved in. and we used sound grenades, blew the glass out. then i heard the gunfire. he began to shoot indiscriminately through the building. i remember on one occasion, i was standing by the window, with a weapon, and somebody yells from the wood line, look out, he's in the window above you! and i crouched down and i looked up with my weapon, and i realize that the bullets had just come out over my head and hit the ground next to me. but we couldn't get a view of him. so we pulled back, and we waited until that night. that night we put a flare into the bottom of a house so we could light up the bottom so they couldn't see to get out. and once again, tried to get him to surrender. but he responded with gunfire. we had helicopters come in over the house and he shot at the

helicopters. while all this is going on, the house caught fire. the fire was from the flare that was in the bottom of the house. the shooting continued all night. rounds being fired by bob. and then rounds just going off indiscriminately. it was a war zone. at daylight i walked up to the cabin and i found bob's body lying in the rubble. and the entire house was destroyed. whatever evidence was there was no longer there. he came to a fiery end, just like the fictional character, in the book of the turner diaries. once he had done that, he was like sainthood of the neo-nazis, you know. like a martyr.

>> like an isis martyr, that's exactly the kind of situation we had in the order. that dedication, and that kind of fervor makes those people he recruited say to themselves, i'm going to be like bob matthews. >> bob deliberately sacrificed his life knowing that the blood of martyrs stirs in people. >> after bob died, there was a general belief amongst the followers of the order that it would only take a spark to reignite the whole thing. so we immediately began very intensified manhunt to locate the others. if we didn't do it right, and we didn't do it fast, a lot of good people were going to be hurt, and a lot of people would be affected by the actions of this group. kevin, meet your father. kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin

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>> the white house had become more and more in the theater.

following the shootout on whidbey island, matthews was dead, and six members of the order were in custody, and we immediately began very intensified manhunt to locate the others. >> federal officials are announcing today they are cracking down on a neo-nazi ring they say is operating in several western states. >> everybody fled in a hundred directions. they scattered like cockroaches.

and we had hundreds of agents working 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. >> they couldn't even plan to do a criminal act. they were just planning how to stay out of our grasp. we were right behind them. >> when matthews burned up, they were looking for a leader. bob was dead and he was the absolute iron-fisted leader. he made the decisions. he was gone. >> they lost not only their motivational leader, but organizational leader. they had to kind of fend for themselves until we ran them all down. >> as we started making arrests, we'd interview these people, some of them talked, some of them wouldn't. but everybody that would talk, we'd get more and more information. and we were successful in locating everybody. >> we really break the back of the order at that point with matthews dead. and some of them already indicating that they were going to testify against their friends if it meant they would get a

smaller, shorter criminal sentence. >> in seattle, ten people, all members of a white supremacist group called the order. >> prosecutor wilson decided i'm going to make this a rico case. a rico case is a federal law that says that an organized group of individuals get together to commit criminal activities for a agreed-upon reason regardless of when they join or what they did, is guilty of all of the crimes. it ended up being a laundry list of the bank robberies, armored car robberies, murder, and bombings. the trial lasted about two months. and slowly, but surely, different order members who had turned against the group came into the courtroom and testified

for three, four, five days, and would point out each one of them. >> in seattle today, ten members of a neo-nazi group known as the order were convicted on racketeering charges. >> they were all convicted quite quickly. literally within a day. their sentences varied. but everybody got pretty substantial time. >> prosecutors are delighted with the verdict, which they believe breaks the back of the order once and for all. >> the outcome was so rewarding. taking down some of america's worst. i participated in the arrest of

the unabomber. he didn't come close to the potential of these guys. >> this was probably the largest criminal spree by any gang in history for many, many years. and after it had all come to an end, there was a general belief amongst the followers of the order that the spirit of the movement represented by matthews and his followers was still very much alive. >> in time, with blessings, we could have been successful. we p be successful. the change will take place. >> lo and behold, it wasn't long before timothy mcveigh came along. with the oklahoma city bombing. and he had read the turner diaries. and he had picked up where he saw bob matthews and his group had stopped. so we are able to say with confidence today that those people no longer are a threat to our country. we're not able to say with

confidence that the belief system in that philosophy is gop forever. because it's not. it's still here. it's still with us. there's a colonade here

where the president invited us in on a wintry washington day. mr. president, thank you very much for letting us come in today. >> pleased to do it, dave. >> rolling, please. and shoot. >> get out of the way. >> you're the only movie actor i know of who ever got elected to a high office. did you learn anything as an actor that has been useful to you as president? >> i'm tempted to say something here. >> go ahead. >> there have been times in this office when i wondered how you could do the job if you hadn't been an actor. >> we haven't had a better

all-around president who had more vision, more courage, more character and done more for humanity for this country than ronald reagan. [ cheers and applause ] >> our aim is to increase our national wealth so all will have more. not just redistribute what we already have, which is just a sharing of scarcity. >> i think reaganomics of the tight money are giving us a worse time than we had. >> his personality is going to endure. >> i think he has captured the imagination of the american people because of his ability to communicate. >> to be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace. >> according to a poll, people believe chances of a nuclear war

has increased since ronald reagan became president. >> he was always out of touch. he was never in charge. >> the reagan administration will be remembered for majoring in public relations. >> together we'll make america %-p. [ applause ] >> say what you will about ronald reagan, he has the capacity to inspire, to lead. but to lead us where, and into what. when we finally reach that shining city on the hill, will it be real or just a vacant hollywood set? >> okay. recording? oh, you are? okay. hold on a sec. okay.

>> okay. >> i'd like to speak to the people of new hampshire about two issues facing their state. two issues i know something about. government spending and taxes. there are those who say the state governments can't balance their budgets, and there are those who say that higher taxes are inevitable. it doesn't have to be that way. but the current governor of new hampshire hasn't learned that lesson yet. unless new hampshire changes governor a sales tax is as inevitable as new england's trees changing color this fall. that's why new hampshire needs john sununu for governor. i know john sununu. i respect him. he'll be a governor new hampshire can be proud of. >> cut. >> i hope i said his name right.

sununu? maybe we better do it again. ain't nothing worse than -- >> i'll be darned. >> all right. >> sununu. sununu. all right. >> that's why new hampshire needs john sununu as governor, to solve the state's fiscal problems without raising taxes. sununu. sununu. i knew i said it wrong. why the hell isn't his name -- [ bleep ] >> that's why john -- john hampshire needs sununu. sununu. oh, hell.

i know john sununu. i respect him. he'll be a governor new hampshire can be proud of. >> there he is right there. take it away, governor. >> not near the post. >> yeah, that's where it's supposed to be. >> the post? >> well, it still kills the picture. it just doesn't cut it. >> right, or left? >> give me some shots of driving the tractor. >> thank you, jim. that's it.

>> the orchestration of television coverage absorbs the white house. they provide pictures of him looking like a leader. confident with his marlboro man walk, a good family man. >> the white house has become more and more a stage, a theater. and the question has become, are the television networks going to manage that theater? are they going to manage that stage? or is the white house going to do that? >> what we're trying to do is find a background that matches the topic that we're trying to push that day. >> stand by for the president. >> god bless you. [ cheers and applause ]

>> mr. president. >> look, i had a chance to shoot a bunch of you the other day and didn't. >> i think i came in too fast. >> 1979. >> just between us or do you want them to --

>> we were riding in the airport yesterday afternoon and my mother was talking about arkansas, that they were trying to pass along to give -- pay people standing in their homes instead of going to the old folks' home. i said i thought we should take care of our own. my little one i thought was asleep in the back seat and he said, granny, he said that's why ronald reagan is the president, to stop all these giveaway programs. >> tell me, you had the experience, mr. president, at one time of auditioning for film roles, and then when you ran for governor or president you were auditioning in front of the public for office. which is more difficult? >> well, i have to say this one is, you have to, well, you not only have to get the part, you have to write the script.

>> strike! >> the people of show business are different than the rest of us. which is probably why we pay admission to see them. i doubt if the rest of us would buy tickets to see each other. >> get away from him! >> she's staying where she is. >> you wanted law and order in

this town. you got it. and you're going to keep on having it as long as i'm marshal. i give you my word, i'll shoot the first man who starts for those steps. >> he's bluffing, boys. let's get him. >> the next one gets a load of buck shot. any takers? >> so it isn't enough just to be a good president. you have to look like a good president. >> well, i think looking obviously, appearance is very important, but it's also staging. how you stage the message. it's a game, barbara. >> in the 35-year history of the hands of the doomsday clock created by nuclear scientists that dramatized the relative threat of nuclear war have moved just ten times.

they've now moved for the second time in a year. >> today, the atomic scientists who built and perfected the bombs moved it from four minutes to three minutes to doomsday for nuclear war. >> americans believe nuclear war could break out between the u.s. and the soviet union. >> you think about your families, the people up the street. what does washington know about these people? they don't care. >> these crazy people want to destroy this entire world, and all of us in it. >> their new missiles on their side of europe. our new missiles on our side. two opponents who know little more of each other than what they see on their tv screens. >> let us be aware that while they preach the supremacy of the state, they are the focus of evil in the modern world. [ applause ]

>> and action. >> this is an abc news special report. an address by the president of the united states. here is correspondent ted koppel. >> the president is going to speak on the balance of power between the united states and soviet union. now here from the oval office is president reagan. >> my fellow americans, thank you for sharing your time with me tonight. the advanced policy of the united states is based on a simple premise, the united states does not start fights. we will never be an aggressor. we maintain our strength in

order to deter and defend against aggression. let me share with you a vision of the future which offers hope. it is that we embark on a program to counter the awesome soviet missile threat with measures that are defensive. >> the president said he was launching a massive research effort to develop space age weapons that would bring down or incapacitate soviet missiles before they reach the u.s. >> what if three people could live secure in the knowledge that we could intercept and destroy strategic ballistic missiles before they reached our own soil and that of our allies. >> this, the president claimed, would secure the u.s. against nuclear attack, and eventually make nuclear weapons themselves obsolete. >> call it as most of the world does, star wars. >> suddenly the farce was with us. >> star wars, star wars -- >> star wars program. >> speaker, the only thing the

president didn't tell us last night was that the evil empire was about to launch the death star against the united states. >> in my opinion, the president is carried away by his own scenario. but it's a scenario that belongs in hollywood. >> we have in ronald reagan a trigger-happy president who is all too prone to use force, who looks upon force as the first resort, not the last resort. >> the president tonight didn't make clear just why the soviets should not view his proposal as a warning. moscow may see tonight's address as both destabilizing and provocative. >> the press conference demanding i cancel the underground nuclear test. that's due today, isn't it? >> it's supposed to take place at 11:40 our time.

>> when i got the call during dinner last night, i said, shoot the button. >> right on. >> there are continuing doubts about mr. reagan that boil down to whether he really runs the government. there are charges he relies too much on his staff, that he's too passive. when he finishes his current trip to california, he won't spend one day on vacation. even when he's working, top administration officials describe a disengaged president who spends one-third of his time

shaping policy, two-thirds on ceremony and public relations. >> i think he has a very good mind when he chooses to use it. unfortunately i don't think he chooses to use it. he lives, i think unfortunately, in a world of norman rockwell and reader's digest of 40 years ago that he remembers nostalgically. it's not the real world today. >> testing, one, two, three. we're at the ranch in santa barbara, california. the president's going to ride horses and chop wood. >> oh, boy. oh. >> there we go. there we go. there we go.

super! all right, great. >> i've got an idea for another picture. just one more. i've got the chain saw. no, and you're blocking me off, stopping me from -- don't just stand there. you're supposed to be saying no. i'm not going to start the saw. >> no. >> mrs. reagan, some people have suggested that you have been the driving force and that you wanted the presidency more than he did. >> yeah, i know. i've read that, too. not true. i -- i thought i married an actor. [ applause ]

♪ >> it appears to an observer that after 33 years of marriage you two are still absolutely nuts about each other. explain it. i mean it seems to be an extraordinary relationship. >> well, how do you explain it? we're happy. >> why does it work so well? >> i think we work at it. >> a wife who has made it her business to take care of her husband, whether by coaching him on what to say about the russians -- >> doing everything we can. >> doing everything we can. >> or worrying about his rain coat. >> you should have worn a rain coat. you should have worn a rain coat. >> i think what people get mixed up in this whole thing, my

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>> an estimated 100 million americans watched last night as some of the horror of a nuclear bomb attack on the united states was portrayed in a tv movie. among those watching was president reagan. ♪ the fire returns, returns, returns ♪ >> "the day after" had a special meaning for the people who live in lawrence, kansas. it was their town that was destroyed in the movie. after the movie ended, some 500 gathered on a hillside.

>> i have strong feelings about the kind of world we live in. i would like to continue to live in it. you know? >> laurel and her mother had been extras in the day after. last night they watched themselves die on television. watching the movie was hard for laurel. being in it changed her outlook. >> more than half of the people will probably just die right away, and that's what i want to happen. i don't want to survive. ♪ >> the moment the kremlin is spending on defense means less money for other things. >> the soviet union is not performing. it is not able to sustain simultaneously increased consumption and defense. and investment. >> leaders from around the world gathered in moscow to pay their last official respects to the soviet leader and have gone to shake hands with the new leader, mikhail gorbachev.

>> there's interest in the new leader, mr. gorbachev. this picture appeared prominently on all papers today. >> i want him to fight for peace. >> enter a bear smiling, but why is he smiling? he won over the british press, which may be something to smile about. he won over britain's iron lady, which is certainly something to smile about. >> i like mr. gorbachev. we can do business together. and he seems to be exploiting a division in the western alliance. and that is something to make him smile back to the kremlin. at 53, this rising star exudes charm, smiles easily, has a keen sense of humor and an attractive wife. >> the soviet government has gone to great lengths to portray gorbachev as the voice of reason, the man trying to prevent an arms race in space.

>> mr. president! what do you think of gorbachev? >> what do you say? >> did he upstage you? did he upstage you? >> the strategic defense initiative has been labeled "star wars," but it isn't about war. it is about peace. in that struggle, if you will pardon my stealing a film line, "the force is with us." >> privately, nato foreign ministers expressed deep miss -- misgivings about president reagan's pursuit of the star wars defense concept. >> russian spokesmen say their armed forces must be kept equal

with the americans. >> and that means another round of the arms race say the soviets, who insist they're being dragged into this competition by ronald reagan. >> i read it this morning, in particular "the washington post," and as far as i'm concerned they're for gorbachev. they're not on our side. >> they've chosen sides. >> the allies publicly broke ranks. on television france's president criticized president reagan's research program for space weapons. mr. reagan's staunchest european supporter, prime minister thatcher, stated her opposition to a new arms race in space. >> one does not want to go into a higher and higher level of armaments. >> ronald reagan, he's no good! send him back to hollywood! >> hollywood! >> you feel like you want to throw the phone and everything is going wrong. instead doing that or kicking the desk. you take this, you grasp it firmly by the legs, and then you go -- [ laughter ]

>> that gets rid of all of that. >> any president, particularly an older president in his second term begins to say "how will history think of me." >> his legacy in the field of foreign policy is he called them an evil empire. that's not something that's going to stand him in good stead with anyone. but if his legacy is that he helped reduce nuclear weapons and make it a safer world -- >> that means a summit, signing arms agreements, the ultimate photo opportunities, a public relations man's dream. >> again, to your right. ♪ >> thank you, david. >> hopes, fears, expectations for this summit.