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if the united states has to defend itself in any watpheany korea will be destroyed. >> president trump talking kim jong-un. >> he's a disruptor. he enjoys engaging on social media. >> the rockets we shouldn't laugh too much about because they represent a great threat. >> even as people try to recover from irma, there is more hurricane trouble on the way. >> two other hurricanes now churning in the atlantic. >> the storm is expected to strengthen as it gains more steam. >> this is new day with chris cuomo and alyson camerota. >> this is new day. chris is off. john berman joins me. it is monday, september 18th, 2017, 6:00.

all eyes on the united nations as president trump plans to address world leaders for the first time. they will be watching to see how he will address his america first policy and his skepticism about the u.n. north korea's nuclear test will loom large. u.s. officials warn pyongyang that time is running out for a peaceful solution. u.s. bombers and fighter jets conducting drills over the korean peninsula. the primetime maniy awards, former white house press secretary sean spicer mocked the crowd size claims, really his own crowd size claims. not everyone liked it. we are tracking two hurricanes in the atlantic. hurricane jose putting the northeast on edge while hurricane maria takes aim at caribbean islands devastated by hurricane irma a week ago.

we have this all covered for you. michelle kaczynski live at the united nations with the big meetings that start today. >> reporter: that's right. president trump's first address to the world where the u.n. general essentially. they are wanting to see how he addresses them, what his tone will be, how he articulates foreign policy beyond what they have heard before. they have heard america first, seen all the tpwaoets, calls for other countries to contribute more. some key leaders won't be here, including germany, russia and china. president trump, now home in new york, but about to face the u.n. a body he has sharply and repeatedly slammed. >> the united nations is not a friend of democracy, not a friend to freedom. >> he will seek more cooperation to face the world's biggest

problems. the president set the stage with a sunday tweet storm, referring to north korean leader kim jong-un as rocket man. and gnawing over formal rival hillary clinton with a golf ball. members of his administration out in front of cameras with more tough talk on the north korean nuclear threat. >> we don't have a lot of time left. if our diplomatic efforts fail, though, our military option, we'll be the only one left. >> reporter: with the president's fire and fury an empty threat? >> it was not an empty threat. i can take this over to general mattis. >> reporter: at the same time, the u.s. has been calling on china and russia to do more to choke off kim jong-un's resources.

to >> are the sanctions a big deal or not a big deal? >> i think the sanctions -- i'm not going to go against the president. i think the sanctions are significant. >> reporter: al confused over what they value more, collaboration or going it alone. trump's america first doctrine reflected in the three themes the president is expected to touch on in his speech tuesday. >> the first is to protect the american people. the second is to promote american prosperity. and the third is really to help promote accountability and sovereignty. >> the u.s. footprint at the u.n. much smaller than it's been in the past. meetings overall fewer. leaving allies skeptical how much the u.s. will be in engaged in refugees and the environment. and how a nationalistic leader of the free world will embrace this global entity now. >> i think he slaps the right people, hugs the right people,

and comes out with the u.s. being very strong in the end. >> reporter: so we will first see the president this morning chairing a session on reforming the you know. as we know, he's been critical of the u.n., saying the u.s. bears too much of the cost burden. he will also meet with israeli prime minister net an hue, french president ma crone and tonight a dinner with latin american leaders. >> he has been critical of the u.n. in the past. we will get to that momentarily.

>> it is one thing if you're tweeting or talking to go apec. it is not thing if you're the president of the united states responsible for global order. is this line america first doesn't mean america alone. i have looked for that. you will get teleprompter trump at this event. more statesmen like. it will be interesting to see in this reform meeting how long it takes to fly off the handle. >> do you think there is a risk that he goes off script, off the teleprompter trump? how would that be sfd by trecei

the delegates of the u.n.? >> everyone is used to president trump now. this is not a brand-new presidency. they have seen the tweets, the flip-flops, the insults. and they are expecting whatever comes. john is right, it will be teleprompter trump. the speech writers are not interested in him going to the u.n. and bashing it. he will talk america first and thread the needle. in between this side and that side, sometimes he looks right at the audience and he will give me a let me tell you or you better believe me. i don't think anyone will be surprised. >> the question is whether or not the president's rhetoric will catch up to many of his president's policies. he campaigned on a policy that reduced the u.s. and its role as a global leader of the west. it has continued the u.s.

position as the post world war ii global super power. the rhetoric doesn't always match up and catch the policies we have seen. this includes russia, the u.s. and asia. so i think the question is here, does the president decide, and there is always a risk to freelance at the u.n. and if between teleprompter speeches scold and talk about what a dump this place is. >> this is an administration where a core part of the constituency uses the words go globalist as an insult. >> four-letter word. >> exactly. there is a lot of bad blood in the administration for the u.n. and these institutions. that is in contrast to mattis and folks trying to reinforce the global order. behind all of it, north korea. >> that's why i think the president, it behooves him, there is a motivation for him to try to be a little bit softer with a lot of these countries. because he is asking the world to help him isolate north korea.

and is so while the president could in a sense use this to try and fulfill a campaign promise to tell the world they better ante up, we have seen secretary haley try to set the table. the u.n. is coming around to our point of view with reform. >> a kinder, gentle r trump. i don't know. >> a freudian slip. >> and that leads us to elton john. will there be more song references in terms of north korean policy and rocket man, as he referred to him. >> president trump has never been interested in being presidential. only when he's on the teleprompter. and these kinds of nicknames and this kind of unserious behavior with allies like the south koreans and the japanese who are

so nervous is obviously not appreciated. but as i've said, they have come to expect it. the real question is what he says about the chinese in his address and how much pressure he still wants to bring to bear. >> the issue with the chinese, does the president and does this administration realize it is -- the chinese do not see it in their interest to help solve the north korean problem. as long as we lean on them as the only party to get this done, that will lead the u.s. on the defensive. >> okay. reuters right now is reporting north korea put out a statement saying the more sanctions the u.s. and the u.n. put out the more quickly it will accelerate its nuclear ambitions. it is the only thing that keeps that country relevant. we all agree north korea, if there is one issue the president wants to deal with today other than just appearances and relationships, it is is north korea. he wants to make the situation better. >> you have an escalating war of

words. this is two people trying to out posture each other rhetorically. north korea is north korea. it's going to put out ridiculous over-the-top statements. he calls this map a rocket man and he has an intercontinental ballistic missile that can reach the united states. you can trod out your elton john represent tore, folks, but this is serious stuff for the u.n. to deal with this week. from north korea's reference, they have no security and they have nukes. >> these meet and greets have been described as speed dating on steroids. how much policy, how much will he be able to move the needle during this week? >> right. well, he's -- the new president

of south korea and the president has a strange relationship. i'm sure the south koreans will be slightly repaired in the days to come. but -- we know from these meetings he doesn't like to get too much in the weeds. he can be charming, make jokes. how much actual repair will happen? how much he can actually talk to others about pushing the chinese and they won't be present. whether or not he talks about what the russians are doing to help the north koreans. we will see in a couple of days. some of these visits, mistakes have happened. they have been sort of dramatic episodes that the white house advisory team was not counting on. >> don't let the sun go down on me. >> well played, sir. >> stick around. president trump mentioned early and off at the primetime emmy awards despite not being on hand for tv's biggest nights.

but sean spicer was there and stole the show. brian joins us from the other side of the earth to look at the highlights. >> reporter: clearly on an image rehab tour. did it help him? did it hurt him? did he basically admit to lying to the american people? here's the clip. >> unfortunately at this point we have no way of knowing how big our audience is. is there anyone who could say how big the audience is? sean, do you know? >> this will be the largest audience to witness the emmys, period, both in person is and around the world. >> wow. that really soothes my fragile ego. . i can understand why you would

want one of these guys around. melissa mccarthy, everybody. give it up! >> so is let the debate begin. are the emmys lending spicer a hand, are they normalizing his usual dishonest behavior from the podium? that's what a lot of liberals say. it was in tphoeappropriate for n colbert to be laughing with sean spicer. it was colbert's idea. he knew he would get blowback. i think spicer himself, he's out there looking for consulting gigs, a tv skwrorbgs jojob, joks time at the white house. his credibility issues are continuing to follow hum out of the white house even though he's joking about it in hollywood. >> a lot of the critics probably laughed first before they allowed themselves to analyze

it, which tells everything right there. >> all of this wasn't even a subplot last night. it was the main plot of the emmys last night. >> yeah. you're absolutely right. hbo was the biggest winner. hulu had a win with the ha"the handmaid's tale". we'll see if the president weighs in on any of the winners. this was clearly liberal hollywood with john oliver winning. remember back in january meryl streep talked about trump. trump responded the next morning. we'll see if the president weighs in on the emmys. >> brian, we will talk to you later in the program about more of this. thanks so much. facebook is in the cross-hairs at the moment. a key focus of robert mueller's investigation into russia's election meddling. our political panel weighs in on

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it could signal a turn in the investigation. let's bring back our panel. look, the special counsel ordered to get this warrant, had to go to a judge and say, hey, we have evidence of criminal wrongdoing here. we need this information you have. facebook says we won't turn over said information without a search warrant. this feels like a shift. >> you can tell that mueller is focusing in on these very specific things like obstruction of justice on firing of comey, the crafting of a letter on board the plane home from hamburg germany and trump about the 2016 meeting and he is focusing whether or not there was any collusion. that would be the closest evidence of any kind of straightforward collusion we have come to see. just as you said, a subpoena

where he has to show cause, probable cause of a crime means that it's more than just a couple of russian people buying some -- >> this is a question of when they were buying these facebook ads and deploying them to phl millions of american people, was there any knowledge by anyone in the trump orbit? what did facebook know and when did they know it. the only time they will be willing to give the critical information is with a subpoena. >> they haven't been transparent. they haven't wanted to tell the american people what the extension of the russian troll forms buying these ads and proliferating them. >> i'm a little sympathetic to facebook because whether or not technology companies will share information provided to them by their customers, advertisers.

as we know in washington with national security agency spying powers, there has been a huge debate how much information the government should have access to unless it's part of a criminal case. what i will say that is super interesting, there's always been two issues as part of the 2016 campaign we have been trying figure out. one is the collusion issue. was there collusion between trump and his associates and people working against hillary clinton, primarily the russians. the other is did the russians meddle? a lot of people don't the like the idea that the russians meddled on behalf of trump. >> who likes that idea? >> if you're a trump supporter -- >> they think it's a good thing? >> they don't think the russians would have wanted to help trump. they would have wanted to help clinton. that would signal trump maybe was of not such a good guy. >> that is a hermetically sealed universe. >> you know these kind of universes exist. my point is what this shows is possibly real concrete evidence of russian meddling, which if

you follow this issue from the summer of 2015 on, would not surprise you in the least. putin and his nationalist government always liked the idea of trump. he was still mad at hillary clinton because she felt she intervened in his last election. this is something people can get their hands around. >> two people had a loud dinner. the white house lawyer on this and john dab was there as well. and the "new york times" overheard this conversation, which is astound to go me. two high-priced lawyers. and they were talking about whether or not they had a right to protect certain documents and how far they should go in turning over information. what is your take on this? they are taking a lot of money making a loud conversation for reporters to hear. >> these were the ones that were brought in because the inside game was so weak that they needed other outside counsel -- >> professionals. >> yeah, gray beards to come in

and sort of clean up this act. they are sitting at a restaurant that is steps, paces from the bureau. they talk about who is to produce documents. there is fighting and hraeging going leaking going on. >> i daydream about scoops like this. all we do in washington -- this is the closest you will get to a georgetown cocktail party, quote, unquote. it's a restaurant we all hang all and i think maybe i will overhear something. it never happens. >> it was how competence should

not be overrated. ty c on obb saying dan has documents in his safe that he won't turn over. that's significant. >> there is still a lack of trust inside. they feel the different lawyers and advisers are against each other. >> there was this doctored video of him hitting hillary clinton in the head or back with a golf ball and knocking her over. i just don't even know. i'm sure the white house will say this is just a joke. it's just a joke. but the interesting thing about jokes is they're usually funny. this is just weird and juvenile and everything else. >> are you saying it's not presidential, alyson? >> i guess that's what i'm saying. >> if abe lincoln had twitter,

he would have done the same thing. no. i'm joking. this may be a hey, can't you get a sense of humor aspect. they tweeted it and had unsavory history. >> the name itself was disgusting. >> this just shows where the president's at. sort of high school bully level humor. >> it is also former high school football player who cannot stop reliving his old glory. it seems all he wants to talk about whenever he can is the fact that he beat hillary clinton in the election. >> it's interesting because those two things. one, he had a tough week with the base last week. he made plans with chuck and nancy. he is worried about blowback from that on breitbart news. he is trying to beat up on hillary clinton because his fans like that. but behind the scenes people will tell you in white house discussions in private, he still

brings up his victory for a reason why he knows better than on decision making in private small settings. >> this has mileage. so much of his electoral base was motivated by the idea of trump thumbing his nose at the system, just acting unpresidential for them is why they actually elected him. so doing this every once in a while, as much as i think trump has no strategic fore thought, when he does this sort of thing he understands who is going to react to it and how they are going to react to it. from his point of view, that works just fine for him. the interesting thing about the idea of who lacks a sense of humor is when this is turned around on the president. there is no sense of humor whatsoever from him or his advisers in the white house. >> panel, thank you very much. >> all right. a lot of other news. two hurricanes churning in the atlantic posting a threat to some already battered by irma

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the emmy awards had lots of memorable moments. one in particular has everyone buzzing this morning. >> what really matters to donald trump is ratings. we have no way of knowing how big our audience is. is there anyone who could say how big the audience is? is sean, do you know? this l the largest audience to witness the emmys, period. both in person and around the world. >> wow. that really soothes -- >> all right. let's bring in cnn media analyst bill carter and cnn political analyst and "new york times" deputy editor patrick healy. so, patrick, was this a tacit

admission from sawn spicer when he said those very same words in the white house press briefing room they were a lie, not true or a joke? >> yeah. i think sean spicer has been looking for a moment like this to to show he's ready and willing to go there and make fun of himself and definitely create some space from president trump. it created a lot of discomfort. a lot of liberals were not able to go the normalizing route. look at melissa mccarthy's reaction during that moment. she said my impression of sean spicer is not a joke between me and sean spicer. this is our critique of the white house and the politics. it's not something that a lot of people are comfortable with. >> i'm not sure it was a tacit admission. felt explicit that he was saying

things wasn't true when he said the crowd size was the biggest ever. bill, it was funny. you have to give comedians a comic moment. here's steven colbert. he wants to be funny. this is a funny bit. the audience went wild when they saw this. >> it is blurring the lines of our world. sean spicer is is tasked with telling the truth. how are we to analyze this? >> here's the thing. the people who criticized were mostly people who say he's a liar and hypocrite. he was criticizing trump as well. he was saying this moment turns out to not have been particularly true. and he made things up, the way he was making things up there. he was mocking himself and he was mocking trump. it wasn't like they weren't shots at trump all of the place. he was called walter whiter than white. a lying bigot by lily tomlin and

jane fonda. >> we got it. let's listen to some of the shots of president trump. >> your show has been, oh, that thing you say about trump being bad. ah! it's so fresh, so fresh. >> thank you. >> back in 1980 in that movie, we refused to be controlled by a sexist, egotist cal lying hypothetical critical bigot. >> really. >> and in 2016, with still refused to be controlled by a sexist, aego activity cal, hypocritical bigot. >> he's the reason i'm probably up here. >> we had a whole story line about up peachment but we abandoned that because we were worried someone else might get to it first. >> poor dolly parton.

>> if you're one of the people who criticize hollywood for being nothing but liberal out there types, lily tomlin and jane fonda are perfect examples of that. that wasn't funny. julie louis-dreyfus's line was pretty funny. that was a joke she was making. >> things always get political. that is always fodder. but sean spicer was a new wrinkle, adding a real person saying fake things as the punch line. all of that is where it gets muddy. >> stephen colbert made this deliberate choice. he thought bringing out spicer, having melissa mccarthy in the audience would create some bang. last night it is still nine months into the trump presidency. there is a lot of discomfort around this. donald trump is going to the u.n. this week.

he will be talking about north korea, going to be talking about the iran nuclear deal. >> a big kiss to the sean spicer. >> president trump sends out a tweet calling the north korean president rocket man. are you going to laugh at this or laugh at that? at some point you have to sort of say, okay, you give people the space to try to be funny and then decide. did that make me laugh? then that's fun. >> it just goes to show. this idea that you have someone sort of blurring truth. and the celebration of the blurring of truth is interesting. >> very quickly, is sean spicer going to have new problem getting a job? >> i don't think so. >> he'll make money and do just fine? >> this will help him undoubtedly because he made fun of himself. you missed something truly

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the vietnam war changed the u.s. khraeupg our political discourse, creating distrust in government still felt until this day. emmy-award winning documentary filmmaker ken byrnes captured this on pbs. here's a look. >> one of the things that i learned in the war is that we're not the top species on the planet because we're nice. we are a very aggressive species. it is in us. and people talk a lot about how well the military turns kids into killing machines and stuff. and i've always argued it's just finishing school. what we do as civilization is learn to inhibit and rope in these aggressive tendencies.

and we have to recognize them. i worry about a whole country that doesn't recognize it. because think of how many times we get ourselves in scrapes as a nation because we're always the good guys. sometimes i think if we thought we weren't always the good guys we might actually get in less words. >> finishing school, simply chilling. great to have you here. honor, sir. loved the first episode last night. look, growing up in the '70s and '80s, '90s, everything was referred back to vietnam, the gulf war, the second gulf war. people always look back at vietnam. >> it's the ghost we have been carrying around more than five decades. it is is this defeat, failure, however you want to call it that sort of kind of is sitting on one shoulder and asking us to evaluate so much of our current moment from these terms.

but if you think about it, vietnam has been buried for us because it didn't turn out so well. people just buried their head like ones an os tri ch. nobody is budging. what would happen if you unpacked all that happened there and repacked it with just the facts. my co-director lynn novak and i have no axe to grind, no political agenda. we're just calling balls and strikes is. what happened? we put it together. the only way to do that is by hearing from north vietnamese voices and viet cong. >> can you connect the dots? were the seeds planted during

vietnam that led to the great distrust in american institutions? metastasiz metastasized. truman, eisenhower, tuckly johnson and m johnson and nixon. they weren't telling the us the truth. you can hear on the tapes in retrospect, they knew and felt exactly the opposite of that. unfortunately what happened is we developed a healthy skepticism that metastasized into cynicism. we have to figure out how to separate them. our film is what happened back then. mark twain said history doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes. you can hear a lot of rhymes today that go back to vietnam, a white house worried about leaks, big document drops of stolen classified material, a sum met cal warfare, accusations that a political campaign reached out

in to a foreign power to affect the election. you realize maybe understanding vietnam might be a key to how we deal with today. it isn't like saying, hey, we finished this before the iowa caucuses. so we don't have a thumb on the scale or a dog in this race. but we do know that good history always speaks to the present moment. it has the possibility, as john mccain said the other day, of healing. what happened is the wounds of vietnam have not been healed in this country. we are on a divide which we just see as this absurd extension about it. we are arguing about who liked the sean spicer appearance at the emmys versus who thought it was a terrible idea. >> the sean spicer moment and

this discussion would not have happened except for what happened in vietnam. >> and we can begin to say we need a little bit all across the board from 1600 pennsylvania avenue on down to our own fingers on the twitter feed, which is we need some discipline to remember that this country works when we do things together. this country works when we're transparent. this country works when we have a definable objective, which we didn't have in vietnam. this country works when we know how we're going to get out. this country works when we're transparent and admits our own mistake. nothing better than a high school coach friday night saying, look, we stunk. they were terrific. we have lost that. now it is all a defensive posture. a lot came from vietnam. our idea is that this is such a seminal moment. we think it is the most important moment since the second world war. as we finish our series 10 years

ago, we looked up the historical road and there was this big thing. it was almost like saying the bridge is out. all these warnings. don't go through the barriers. bridge out three miles, one mile. we broke through. and then in some ways we find ourselves in midair going, wait a second, the bridge is out. we haven't really recovered from that. we are trying to furring out how as a country we might do this. the hyper partisan championship of today -- i don't think you can put the genie back in the bottle. some people say the opposite party is the enemy, that is born in vietnam. if we can pull the fuel rods out, we might be able to have a civil discourse and listen to the better angels of our nature. >> going back to your first documentary, the civil war. >> the film is the vietnam war on pbs. it airs nightly through

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