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for up to 12 hours with just one pill. aleve. all day strong. >> welcome to inside politics. i'm john king. thanks if are sharing your day with us. president trump's united nations debut concludes his america first trademark. and this colorful, but blunt warning to north korea. >> the united states has great strength and patience. but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy north korea.
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rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself. and for his regime. >> plus stunning details of the russia meddling investigation. cnn learned the former tam pain manager was the subject of an fbi wire tap at a time he was known to be in touch with president-elect and president trump. >> we know that there was enough concern to get the first wire tap of. there was enough concern to get a second wire tap. the fbi has broken into his home in appropriate legal fashion and taken all of the records. >> and one last time. senate republicans a vote or two short as they try to pass a plan that would shift big decisions to the states and allow insurance companies to drop some coverage mandated under obamacare. >> you will face a binary choice leaving 100% of obamacare in place or taking what we can get
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and working with the governors long-term. >> we begin the hour with president trump's first address to the united nations general assembly and his deliberate choice to hold out north korea and iran for harsh words. kim jong un wants to be accepted as a nuclear power and the president of the united states standing before the world community says never. and added a threat. >> no one has shown more contempt for other nations and for the well being of their own people than the depraved regime in north korea. no nation on earth has an interest in seeing this band of criminals arm itself with nuclear weapons. the united states has great strength and patience. but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy north korea.
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rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. the united states is ready, willing, and able, but hopefully this will not be necessary. >> no uncertain terms from the president or in his description, the iranian regime. >> the iranian government masks a corrupt dictatorship behind the false guise of a democracy. it turned a wealthy country into an economically depleted rogue state. >> tough talk from the president, but he left unanswered the giant question. is he prepared to follow-through on the campaign promise and shred the iran nuclear deal? >> the iran deal was one of the worst and most one-sided transactions the united states has ever entered into.
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frankly that deal is an embarrassment to the united states and i don't think you have heard the last of it. believe me. >> with us to share the reporting and insights, julie davis from the "new york times." bloomberg politics and eliana johnson from politico. what do we hear that matters most? it was remarkable to see a leader of any country, but the president of the united states threatening to totally destroy, not retaliate or hurt or isolate or prove a point, but totally destroy a country. what do we make of that? >> clearly you have to focus on the starkness of that threat and how strongly he came out against north korea. he is very strong and willing to pull out of the iran deal. we will learn more about that in mid-october. this speech was important for what it showed us about the president's vision of his sort of america first philosophy.
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he is not budgeing for this idea that the correct way to go about geopolitics and diplomacy is for the american people to take care of itself and other countries to take care of themselves. he is focused on out comes and not the global ideals that we heard former american presidents talk about at the united nations and it's a very different vision than the one we have seen before. his object in his speech was to drive that home, but the toughness here is what i think the president wanted everyone to take away. he certainly didn't mince words and he obviously didn't back away from that rocket man tweet he issued over the weekend. he sort of enjoys the idea that the world is going to see him making fun of kim jung un and he's okay with that. >> he is coming away with the headline here using trumpian language. if there is a success from the speech is that he's going to get the headlines he wanted.
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tough talk on north korea. it is seeing the ark now after eight or nine months in office where he came in very, very tough on north korea and then met with xi down in mar a lago and took a different route. thought diplomacy was the way forward on this and then after a few rockets, we are back to rocket man. not back to rocket man, but that back to a very tough rhetoric. >> it felt a little like a campaign speech. his supporters would have loved the talk about north korea and iran and assad. it was a connective tissue towards a strategy. how do you achieve the things you are talking about. is he going to follow-through on the talk of the threats he is making and the potential for war? that would be a disaster and you are talking about escalating pressure on china. possibly even a trade war. that is not going to help his promises of growth. he is talking tough about assad
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in syria while he wants to move troops out of the mideast. he is talking about refugees in their home while wanting to cut foreign aid and conflicts that have yet to be resolved. >> i think the headlines are overshadowing what julie alluded to, a trump doctrine that we saw between the inaugural address and the president's speech in warsaw and the speech today. if you put them together, he is given the most coherent statements in the big addresses watch and listened to by countries around the world. the thrust of it is the health care scholar and you put it best and he is telling nations building up walls and reasserting sovereignty is a great way to break down the walls between people. and he is reasserting a sense of american identity and
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encouraging other nations to do the same. encouraging all other countries around the world to reassert patriotism as well. >> kim jong un is not there. they would assert they are doing what is best for their sovereignty. they want to be accept and they think the way to do that is defying resolutions and path agreements. you have the president of the united states saying totally destroy. at some point is the president going to have to back up the words? >> what you heard him say here is no talk about spreading democracy the way you heard of president bush or bill clinton talk 10 years ago, but that there are certain nations that threaten the well being of the community of the nations. you won't hear him talk about a global citizenship or community, but a community of nation states and that's why the un was founded and people may need to act if they threaten the well being of the wider community.
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what's unclear is how and when. >> do your business and don't cross lines. what's interesting is the reaction. romney pra romney praising the president of the united states. they say thank you for laying out a clear set of standards for how you will go forward in the world. this is dianne feinstein. the goals are to foster peace and global cooperation. today he threatened war. he aims to unify through tactics of intimidation, but only further isolates the united states. now that the president has been more clear about his doctrine if you want to call it that, in front of the global community, now we will have a fight about it. >> the talk of nation building and focusing on the united states has a lot of support on the left and the right. as far as the iran deal goes, this is another area where his actions remain to be seen and will go forward with it. he attacked it and said it was an embarrassment. he has adviser who is say the risk if you do that is that
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iran's fact to a bomb begins more quickly. >> you may not like iran's behavior, but you may get a more aggressive iran outside the deal. i found it interesting by his language. it sounds like you just wait. now i'm going to pull out of it. the israelis wanted the president to do that. he said that repeatedly and every deadline they recertified iran. we don't know where that is going. that tug of war continues. >> i think one of the reasons you are hearing republicans talking about this speech and he did do what he did in the afghanistan speech and the joint address to congress. he read the speech. he didn't go off script. i don't know if rocket man was on the teleprompter, but he stuck to what they wanted to say. >> the president added that. >> you didn't hear the long rambling things that have republicans sort of clutching their pearls.
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this that regard, they thought he succeeded and there is an issue here in the iran deal as an example and north korea as well. the president laid out clear lines in the sand and this is my limit and i won't tolerate this or that and this deal is horrible. we didn't get a good sense of so what and what is his philosophy for resolving the issues and that's what remains to be seen. >> let's listen more about if you are here and you follow the campaign and the news in the united states and you heard the president say this before. this is the first time speaking to the general assembly and taking what was a campaign slogan and making it a foreign policy principal. >> i will always put america first. just like you as the leaders of your countries will always and should always put your countries first. we can no longer be taken
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advantage of or enter into a one-sided deal where the united states gets nothing in return. >> clever use of words by the president. a lot of people said that's arrogant and s isolationist. he said you should put your people first. a way to get his point across, but hard to object to. >> this is the gift of donald trump is that you can listen to trump and take out what you like and hear what you want to hear with this president. this is a very trumpian speech with the adding of the rocket man and that's undeniable. this is where the confusion will come up and what means are in the details. and he puts himself as the moral
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arbitter and do what's best for your country and decide if that's appropriate. >> mostly what was not said and we were looking for this and hoped the president in the part about north korea would thank china and russia for the support of the council and ask them to do more. now thank you for that and you need to step up and stop the black market trade and he did elsewhere take a bit of a shot at both moscow and beijing. >> we must reject threats to sovereignty from the ukraine to the south china sea. >> relatively gentle language, but he put it on the record there. this from a president where if you look at the campaign and his first speech to the world community at the united nations. he has not labeled china a currency manipulator. he added before withdrawing and there he did go on the record with other issues that can get
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prickly. >> the tone is consistent with the talk of how he viewed the world and talked about foreign policy in the campaign and he is playing to the notion that many americans have that the united states is overextended and it does too much and it is trying to police things and protect people at a cost that is not beneficial to them. that's a matter for debate and a lot of people don't agree, but on a gut political level, a lot of americans feel that and that's what he was playing to. as far as warnings to china, as north korean experts know, the biggest point of leverage the united states has because it does about three or four billion in exports and imports. it's all right the most isolated nation. >> the major shift in terms of ideology, it began with obama.
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the notion of the world war ii era when they replaced the uk is that taking on outside responsibilities in the world and paying the vast majority of dues at international organizations was actually in the u.s. interest and it was good for the u.s. to do that sort of thing. even though it happened to benefit other countries as well. trump is saying that's not the case. you heard some of that with obama as well. that's a huge shift. if it plays out, you heard people like george w. bush argue that spreading democracy abroad was actually in the u.s. interest. we had to do that and it was a self protective measure. if we see trump pull back and continue to roll back that began with obama, that will be an enormous shift in strategic thinking. >> with neoconservatism. >> what comes from it front and center of how pyongyang responds. tough words that we will see.
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all right battering islands in the caribbean from you go add loupe. that shows the aftermath including flooding. it slammed causing widespread devastation. in puerto rico as early as tonight, less than two weeks after hurricane irma devastated the same areas. let's get to chad meyers. i love you, but i'm seeing too much of you lately. >> i know. i'm sorry, buddy. the people of puerto rico don't want to see me either. this is a brutal storm that moved over as you said dominica
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and this moved through in 15 hours. that's rapid intensification and can happen anywhere. it happens in the gulf of mexico. you go to bed one night in houston and wherever. you are looking at the ts and by morning you have a cat three. that's what happened here. and even into st. croix for a category four, 155 mile per hour storm making landfall tomorrow morning. the cone is over the entire island of puerto rico. it could essentially miss the northeast corner of puerto rico still, but that would take it right into the u.s. virgin islands so you have to watch
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what you ask for. the u.s. virgin islands are so torn up. the threat here and 70% was with irma and it missed the island. this i don't see at all. this is in that ballpark and they may be without water and power for a long time. if you are watching in streak. a couple of things you can do. and they may need you for a long time. be prepared without electricity and washing your hands. i find the most important thing i can do is have handy wipes. after days without water, all you want to do is clean your hands off and those handy wipes are quite handy. >> we will stay in touch in the
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days ahead. puerto rico has not seen landfall by a major hurricane since 1998. the last time a category five storm hit was 1928. let's bring in layla from santiago. what are they telling you to prepare for. >> they are saying the same thing you just heard. get ready. this could be big. this could be catastrophic and the rain has been coming and going. the ocean, this is the ocean we are on the northern part of the island. this is typical for right now. this is an area that is known for food and night life. as a matter of fact the buildings are empty. there is not much of a line here. where you see the line here is for ice. all of these people are in line for ice right now. they are limiting the amount of ice that people can take back
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home. this is what they need to keep their food in the refrigerators. this woman has been in line for a long time. she has been in line for two hours. [speaking foreign language] she has power at home, but many of the residents actually don't have power. that is one of the biggest concerns given that puerto rico's power system is lacking maintenance. [speaking foreign language] she will take two bags of ice. [speaking foreign language] she needs that in order to conserve and use the food. they are telling us to go because everyone is in line waiting. the ice comes here and everybody i have spoken to in this line told me they are coming here after having been to several stores. several pharmacies and anywhere on the island where they can try
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to find ice and generators and basic supplies that you need to get through a hurricane and a hurricane like this where again officials, the governor and the head of emergency management are using words like catastrophic, devastating and one that will hit hard. >> and too soon after irma. thank you very much. appreciate the reporting. extraordinary reporting on the russia investigation involving a high ranking trump campaign official. that exclusive is up next. beyond is a natural pet food
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>> welcome back. let's turn to an exclusive reporting on the russia meddling investigation. investigators wire tapped the former campaign chairman. surveillance was approved under
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secret court orders before and after the election. on the team that broke this story, we have the details. a stunning development where the chairman is wire tapped. when this happened and why it's important to the investigation. >> the second part is for the investigation and in part because this is all now been shared with the special counsel's team and bob mueller and his team has this. it's become part of the investigation and it's certainly the intelligence that they have been working off and the intelligence that the fbi agents have been working through. keep in mind that the secret warrants that gave the fbi permission to listen in to manafort started in 2014 when he was doing some work for a pro ukrainian government out of washington, d.c. there was some suspicious activity that raised concern and the fbi started an investigation
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and went to the court and got the warrants. the warrants continued if are sometime. we don't know when it stopped, but what we do know in regards to the russia medaling investigation that the former fbi director james comey revealed in july when he testified before congress that the investigation got started in july. that is when we believe sometime around then that the fbi asked for another fisa warrant. it is not clear exactly when they started listening in on manafort's conversations. in the russia medaling investigation if it was while he was as the campaign chairman, but we know definitively it went into early this year when manafort and trump were still speaking. >> shocking new details. appreciate that exclusive reporting and they have the scoop on paul manafort that
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reads like a spy novel. a predawn raid where they picked the looks of manafort's home and warned him he is likely to be indicted. listen to the final paragraph of this piece. his team had to show probable cause of a crime. the federal judge he was likely to destroy the evidence. >> let's start the conversation there. you cannot get a fisa warrant without making a case to a judge that somebody is doing something with a foreign actor that raises legitimate suspicions. they had one and got a second at a time he was talking to candidate trump and president-elect trump and then president trump. to get a warrant, the guy is in his house. we are not going to knock. we are going to pick the lock and go in and to get that permission, you can't just walk in and say we want to kick the
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door down, you have to convince the judge there is something to find. you are convinced he is going to destroy it. what does that tell us? >> a couple of caveats, but the warrant is shocking because in order to get that it's tremendously difficult. they are top secret and you have to show that there is probable cause that this guy is an agent of a foreign power. the caveat is that it doesn't mean he was that or there is evidence he was acting as such while he was chairman of the trump campaign. the fbi was investigating him since 2014 and none of less it does not look good to have a guy for whom there was probable cause. he was an agent of a foreign power whether or not he was. chairing your campaign. this is not good for trump, but all along what people thought about the russia investigation is not that donald trump was colluding with vladimir putin, but he was rec unless terms of the people he allowed to work on
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his campaign and turn the other way regarding the kind of corrupt people he had around him. >> when you see the tough tactics, that tells you they can't do this unless they have a good case against mr. manafort and you are the target of investigation and we are going to indict you. they want you to throw your hands up and say okay, i will cooperate. >> there are two issues here and they are connected. one is part of what the mueller team is trying to do. they quoted someone saying you want to strike terror into the hearts of people so they cooperate with the investigation and understand you are serious and moving quickly and people better tell you the truth otherwise they are going to be subject to tactics like this. there is the issue of manafort and his liability here and his potential wrong-doing. the thing about the fisa warrants, other than the fact that they were able to be gotten that indicates that paul
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manafort was doing something at least on the face looked to authorities like it could be operating on behalf of a foreign power. he was talking to trump during parts of these times. now the president knows and his legal team knows and everyone around him knows if paul manafort mentioned anything to do with the campaign with regard to russia to the president on the phone, this could implicate the president. because they are collecting this evidence of paul manafort's potential wrong-doing, he has a great incentive to flip. if he didn't before, he will have incentive now. >> new details about the raid in the "new york times." when that happened, forgive me for interrupting. here's what the president said. >> i know mr. manafort and i haven't spoken to him for a long time. he was with the campaign for a sort period of time.
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>> relatively short period of time. he was a key architect of the convention strategy and was not with the campaign a long time, but when he was there, he was somebody. >> he was a guy who worked for me. >> let's contrast what we have seen from the "new york times." the point that julie was making about the tone of robert mueller's team of this force and precision they are bringing to this and the heavy hitters they have on this team and contrast it with the team of lawyers and my colleagues reported trump's lawyers were arguing over whether or not they should recommend kushner step aside for legal protection for the president and they have a stunning story that trump's own attorneys are sitting in a restaurant that is widely known
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to be openly discussing this case and the confusion swirling around the trump lawyers's team and the force that mueller is bringing not only is the fisa warrant shocking, this dichotomy is shocking too. >> there is a lot of tension. >> the combination of this warrant for manafort and insinuation on top of that that he has evidence in his home that he would destroy if you knock on the door and the idea that they believe he committed enough of a crime, prosecutors or legal experts say prosecutors are doing when they try flip a witness. they believe he has information on his former colleagues and potentially people in the campaign. we have no idea if he actually had the president caught in these surveillances. we don't know the connection, but mueller is on to something bigger. >> i want to know the president's personal friend and attorney was on capitol hill and
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>> this is the bill that is coming before us. this is the threat right now to our nation and to millions of people. >> it's just another version of the same old cruel, heartless, shameless plan that republicans have spent the last eight months trying to jam down the throats of the american people. >> that urgent message is telling. they know a last ditch republican effort has a chance of getting the necessary 50 votes. you are looking at the live pictures, that's cory booker from new jersey. another rally speaks out against the proposal sponsored by lindsey graham and bill cassidy. that doesn't have enough votes, but if it became law, it would shift big health care funding's decisions to states. it eliminates the individual and employer coverage mandates in obamaca obamacare. states would make rules using
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block grants and medicaid money. it will decide whether they are allowed to change or eliminate coverage mandates now in o damma wear. the democrats don't like it, but the political math depends on republicans who can only afford to lose two votes. count rand paul as one. >> the yes vote keeps obamacare in place, but this is like replacing obamacare and let states have more power and keep the taxes and keep the spending. >> this is probably deja vu to many of you. the republicans tried many times to pass an obamacare repeal that don't quite repeal, but at least replace. how urgent is this? vice president pence was at the united nations and came back to the washington for the senator's luncheon. lindsey graham of south carolina is one of the sponsors of this
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piece of legislation has been doing the whip count and counting around seeing how many votes he needs. they are trying to sell the bill. we are told by sources to take this seriously. they were close before, but they are close again. >> other than rand paul, i spoke to susan colin asks she sounded skeptical and is worried about what it would do to coverage. she said it is procedural's loo a problem for what it means for insurance coverage and what it means for the deficit. they will give a red or a green light. she is one of them. lisa murcowski said she is speaking to the governor who came out criticizing this bill today. and john mccain, a critical vote, the decisive vote last time who said yesterday he is still concerned about the process. he wants it to go through
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regular order, but did not shut the door. >> the schedule here on at least one hearing to try to satisfy. it's not the regular process, but saying we are going to have a hearing and people can talk about this. the governor of arizona did come out for it. mccain is trying to get to yes, but not there yet. we have lisa murcowski and mccain. they are the two key votes. it will come down to them. lisa murcowski having the same conversation with herself. leads to uncertainty for coverage in their states. the political argument for republicans, you have to do this. we promised for seven years how we do this. what's going to win? the policy or the political imperative? >> it's not really a repeal of obamacare. it is important to note it leaves the regulatory architecture that if you talk to conservatives, that was the
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major utah senator beef. the regulatory architecture and the taxes. it leads to structure in place and shifts the money from the federal government to the states. rand paul is not really wrong when he voices complaints and i think to a certain extent, the drama you see from democrats is a little bit overstated in that it's not a sweeping repeal. i think that the drama on the republican side or that the stress you are seeing is that they need to pass something, anything. donald trump was not wrong when he hammered mitch mcconnell saying you have to get something done. they had years to do this and they should have had something ready and teed up. there is a desperation to do something even though it is not a full repeal. >> what is the risk that they go through this again and lindsey graham coming down the steps and saying we are just one vote short. >> they already looked on this. >> they have already chosen
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something. i do think the rational that you were talking about, they have to do something does move the vast majority of republicans. for the swing votes they need, they are not going to be swayed. they are not just going to take it and grab it for anything called a repeal. the medicate expansion was one of the popular elements of obamacare that lawmakers on both sides say they are with the existing health law. it will be very difficult to get to people like that over the hump if they are not there yet. >> if you are a republican voter in america and you have questions about the health care and they go through this again and don't do it, i want to read this before we go to break. the number two senate republican on the relationship between senate republicans and president trump. it's like a thunderstorm. after a while it clears up and the sun comes out and it's okay. when asked if they find that
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relationship acceptable he answered what choice do i have? >> hillary clinton raises the spector of something she once called horrifying. blood pressure.
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welcome back. listen here. a tongue in cheek moment from hillary clinton last night here in washington. >> the rugs and their allies, whoever they turn out to be -- >> she got lashed from the crowd and earlier in an npr interview, a stunning answer to a serious question. >> would you completely rule out questioning the legitimacy of this election if we learned that the russian interference in the election is even deeper than we know now? >> no, i would not. >> you are not going to rule it out? >> i wouldn't rule it out. >> it's a hypothetical
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complicate booed i a hypothetical, but that's a stunning thing to say. what does that mean? >> that are means trump was right all along. this is what this is about. >> i'm kidding. she said later in the interview she doesn't quite know what she needs. there is no way to actually delegitimize this election in the current process. she leaves it open. at the very least keeps us talking about her and this book. and keeps the pressure on this investigation. >> the best thing -- >> questioning her mind or legally challenging the legitimacy? the latter would be a huge deal. they decide that the allegations don't give credence to the fact that he deserves to be president, that's different than challenging it. >> she already at the former. i think it seems like the latter and the thing that struck me is
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it was donald trump who was hammered for saying he was not going to accept the results of the election. >> that was one of the things that we all talked about when it all came to light the degree to which russia sought to influence the election one of the ways we talked about having done that. they undermined people's confidence in the system because they were able to hack and they were able to do enough to disrupt and there is not a clear understanding and the full scope of what was done. what they were able to do is make people question this election is legitimate or not. that's one of the reasons president obama didn't want to come back the way hillary said he should have and been tougher about it and more explicit. it is ironic that she would say i would question and challenge it myself. that is playing into the strategy on the part of russia. to make the american people
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