how it innovates. >> how they shed debt. you do hear emphasis on the babies are us. they're going to put those stores together side by side and get rid of some of the stores that don't have a babies are us. >> thanks for joining us. >> "new day" starts right now. have a puerto rico was absolutely obliterated. the rain has not stopped, flooding all throughout the island. >> maria hit us very hard, but she is nothing compared to the force we will unleash to rebuild. >> they continue to hear people's cries. >> i don't think i have seen quite a mobilization of volunteers as i have seen here. >> we are not wasting time. right now time is our enemy. the graham-cassidy bill is the right solution at the right time. >> i make a prediction.

a couple of democrats are going to come on board. this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alyson camerota. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is your "new day". it is friday, september 22nd, 6:00 here in new york. here is our starting line. the death toll is rising in puerto rico. at least 9 people are dead after hurricane maria. first responders caution that number is preliminary. they are shocked there isn't massive loss of life. fema already on the ground, has large-scale relief on tankers. those tankers have to wait for the port to open back up. there are aid flights to puerto rico beginning today. they will bring water, food, large-scale generators for the millions of americans in need. the entire island has no power. and in mexico, the seven for survivors after the massive earthquake continues in several collapsed buildings. at least 286 people are known to

have died. the rhetoric is rising between president trump and kim jong-un. he said mr. trump will pay dearly for his u.n. speech. they are now threatening to test a hydrogen bomb over the pacific ocean. facebook will turn over thousands of political ads linked to russia. what does this mean for the russian investigation? is we have a lot to cover. lai laila sapeyla santiago is in pu rico. >> reporter: asth maria ripped through the island of puerto rico, this is what she left behind. the first images of utter devastation 10 miles west of san juan. a cat 4 hurricane, residents trudging through floodwaters to reach their homes. many without roofs. to got around here, four-wheel-drive, kayaks or walk

like mr. guzman. rescuers are going home to home finding anyone who needs new shelter. they were fighting back tears after firefighters and the national guard reached her 84-year-old neighbor. 16-year-old had grabbed their s dogs and left to find help when the water got too high. >> i'm scared what's going to happen now to us. where are we going now?

>> it's difficult but at least they're alive. >> once at the evacuation shelter, some safety. a new feature ahead already filled with uncertainty. >> thanks to leyla santiago now. joining sus is ricardo romeo. thank you, governor. >> good morning to everyone. we have been receiving partial information. still part of the island is lacking communications. we have preliminary assessments about 13 deaths at this juncture. we will keep you abreast of what's going on. some of the western part of the island, southeast part of the

island, we're still trying to break through. keep in mind we are 24 hours post hurricane warning. our efforts are to make sure we have everybody safe and we can rescue people. our efforts have produced almost 700 rescues. so we're clearly focused on that. >> of course, governor. it is hard to really wrap our heads around what's happening in puerto rico. whole neighborhoods and towns are under water. can you give us a sense for what the conditions are for the 3.5 million there? >> yes. the flooding areas, as we anticipated, were going to get several feet of water. it has been significant. yesterday during the the morning i had to go to one of the towns to help rescue people on the rooftops because of water flooded more than anticipated. so we have a lot of flooding.

we have reports of, you know, just complete devastation of vulnerable housing. of course it's still raining over here, which is one of our main messages right now. keep safe. still seek shelter. because mudslides and surges as well as flooding continues. so that's essentially the landscape. is and we're still trying to see some of the hardest hit areas such as the southeastern part of the island. we are still lacking in communication there. that is a major disaster here in puerto rico and we are trying to save as many lives as we can. >> of course. some areas have gotten 40 inches of rain. we are watching some of the 700 rescues you're talking about. can we talk about the power grid. the estimates are just really

disheartening that it will be -- do you believe it will be between four and six is months to get power restored there? >> we will get a better sense today. today we will fly over puerto rico. we will see how the transmission lines handled the storm. if there is severe devastation in those transmission lines, it will take weeks and months to repair those. however, if the devastation is not as severe, then we can restore it quickly. but our warning when we came in eight months ago to this administration was that we had a week energy grid mere in puerto rico and we needed to restore it. of course that takes time. but now certainly with the help of fema and working together, we're going to have to not only restore it but make sure we mitigate future impact so we can restore energy quicker. >> governor, what is that going to look like for the people of

puerto rico? how are they going to work and live and function without power? it's tough, but we have been working on mitigation strategies. mind you, the estimates, the time of getting power is getting full power. we will start getting power as we start restoring the system. there has been a lot of solidarity, alyson. after irma blazed through the islands, we rescued over 3,500 citizens. but now there is a lot of people, a lot of governors. the federal government has been phenomenal. fema has been great. >> yeah. >> so now our efforts, you know, obviously still within the

warning signs and danger making sure that people are safe, saving life. but immediately after that, start rebuilding puerto rico stronger than ever. >> governor, i know you spoke to president trump last night. what did you ask him for and what did he offer? >> well or the president has been phenomenal in this situation. he's been both at irma and maria, he offered an emergency declaration. he declared most of the island a disaster area so we can start the rebuilding process quickly. and he just said that he loved the people of puerto rico and he would stand by us in our rebuilding process. >> governor, obviously we know you have weeks and months ahead of you that will be really challenging. we appreciate you giving us a status report. thank you very much for being on "new day". >> and thank you for all the people who have poured their hearts, their prayers, governors, congressmen.

just regular american citizens calling and giving their help. thank you for all of that. puerto rico will need you at this juncture is and we're grateful for your consideration at this time. >> everyone is thinking of you, governor. we'll speak to you soon. chris? >> the reason you are seeing so much federal aid is, one, humanity demands it. it is a territory of the united states. those are americans there. so you will see continued resources from the united states government. now there is a different story on the island of dominica. it is considered almost a complete loss. it is mostly inaccessible after hurricane maria. cnn is one of the only reporting teams on the island now. widespread destruction is everywhere. michael holmes is there. michael? >> reporter: chris, i've got to tell you, i haven't seen

anything quite like this. we have been covering irma and then maria a couple of weeks now. this is by far the worst we have seen. it is an island of 70,000 or so people. it has been decimated from end to end. we are in the capital at the moment. 6th where i look around me, i see roofs torn off and houses completely demolished. massive trees washed down the rivers and banged up against bridges. there is no power. there is no running water. very little aid has gotten insofarment you mentioned the isolated buildings. there are many hillside villages all around this island. we flew around the eye land a day or so before we could actually land. those places have been decimated as well. there is debris littering like confetti around the fields and the hillsides. we talked to the prime minister yesterday. this is an agriculture-based

economy. cane fields. banana plantations, citrus growth. gone. there is not a leaf on this island, chris. the rain forest, you can't see where they are. look at before pictures online and look at it now and you have to shake your head. the prime minister is heading out today. he will make a plan active cry for help. this was the first place hit by maria. category 5. full-on hit. they are worried they will get forgotten because of other places hit by irma and maria. this little island basically has nothing and has nothing going forward in terms of economy. the tourism industry, done. the agriculture industry, done. they need help. they need it now. no power. no water. precious little food.

alyson. >> michael, the video is incredible. thank you very much for the reporting from there. hurricane maria is still powerful category 3 storm as it takes aim at the turks and caicos. cnn meteorologist chad myers has the latest. >> i see the storm going into the turks and caicos. still 125 miles per hour. it did gain a lot of strength as it got back into the water, as we expected. but still traveling to the north and northwest. there is still a little chance this makes a slight left turn back to the u.s., and i will show you why. 110 miles per hour in the middle "the atlantic". missing the bermuda too. see the jog to the left. why did they push it back. why did they push it to the left? because the european level has a jog. this will row taillight around each other. that is this part of the wiggle. that's why the model temperatures a little bit to the

left and so does the hurricane track. for now it stays onshore. maybe making a run at it but for now the atlantic ocean. chris? now, to mexico and the race against time. there are human chains of volunteers and workers often digging by hand through rubble for survivors. the death toll from that magnitude 7.1 earthquake right now stands at well of 250 and continues to rise. cnn's rosa flores is live in mexico city. rosa? >> reporter: well, chris, there are at least 10 collapsed buildings here in mexico city who are believed to have people trapped inside. the building that you see behind me is one of them. at this hour, rescuers telling us that operations here have stopped because of the rain that pummeled mexico city overnight. that rain added weight to the building that is already

unstable. this rain just one added stress to a very dangerous operation to save lives. search and rescue teams frantically combing through collapsed buildings, desperate for signs of life amid the mangled rebar and blocks of concrete. mexico's president telling authorities they believe there are people still buried alive. emergency officials using high-tech cameras and rescue dogs, hoping it isn't too late. these workers build a makeshift ladder before calling for silence to listen for any survivors. these scenes playing out across mexico city and surrounding towns as thousands work together removing buckets of debris. a painstaking task done carefully to avoid a further collapse. amid the chaos, moments of joy as people are pulled from the rubble. workers celebrate as this

survivor is brought to safety. other efforts coming up empty. like the urgent seven for a young girl authorities believed was trapped under this collapsed elementary school. the world eagerly awaited news of her fate before officials announced that all the students and teachers had been accounted for, either at home, in hospitals or dead. the global community rallies around mexico. volunteers from around the world coming from as far away from japan and taiwan, working together with hundreds of ordinary people who have flocked to the area to do whatever they can to help save lives. >> i'm a graphic designer. i'm not prepared to do any of this. but there is always something you can do. >> reporter: as we take another live look here i can tell you rescue workers have been saying while operations have seized

here for the moment, while they wait for this delicate building to settle after the rain from overnight, they do believe that people are trapped in what they are calling capsules, alyson. these capsules, they say, were created when the building collapsed but it allowed people to stay in the crevasses, these areas. the reason they believe people are trapped inside is because they used heat sensors and there were positive readings coming from the sensor and the sophisticated equipment they are using here in mexico city. >> oh, my gosh. let's pray they can get to them today when daylight come up there. thank you very much, rosa. so north korea. kim jong-un issuing an ominous new warning to the united states. we have all the new details for you, next. you, next. stpha 3 individual vertebrae

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. north korea may test a hydrogen bomb over the pacific ocean. what's the latest, joe? >> reporter: alyson, this is a war of words that continues to escalate. north korea's foreign minister indicating that north korea

could explode is a hydrogen bomb over the pacific in retaliation for the president's speech before the united nations. though he did say that the final decision of course will be left up to kim jong-un. kim, for his part, promising the harshest countermeasures in history, indicating the united states would pay dealer for trl speech. let's listen to some of the incendiary words that set off this word conflict. >> the united states has great strength and patience. but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy north korea. rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. >> reporter: kim also referred to president trump as a

deranged, senile old man. indicating that financial institutions can participate in economics with the united states or north korea but not both. the president of the united states also indicated yesterday that china has, in fact, informed its associated banking system not to participate in financial transactions with north korea, though that could not be confirmed. the president is expected to have a quiet day here in new jersey before heading off to alabama to participate in a rally for luther strange, who is strike to win the election against the popular former chief supreme court justice roy moore. >> all right, joe. a war of words. the question is, where does it lead? we have cnn political analyst

maggie haberman and david sanger, both correspondents from the new yo"new york times". you got to lay out north korea and the bigger goal with russia. now you have the events of the president announcing a more holistic approach. >> the biggest development, chris, is the threat of an atmospherist test which american officials have been concerned about privately for some tomb. it was very interesting that the foreign minister the gave voice to that just around the time that kim jong-un did that remarkable direct attack on president trump. an atmospheric test would be a very big thing. there has not been one in four decades. the chinese were the last to do it. the united states banned them with a few others in the kennedy

administration in 1963. they are such an environmental disaster. we is sickened a lot of people when the u.s. conducted such tests in the '50s. my guess is that that would be an incredibly provocative act that could well change the administration's own calculus about its need for preemptive action. and general mcmaster, who you had on yesterday, talked the most about taking some kind of preventive step. whether this is a holistic approach, as you suggest, i'm not convinced yet. because the effort to suggest that they may pull back from the iran treaty would make it much harder to the sign any kind of agreement with north korea. >> david, what about this development of possibly president xi issuing app order to china's central bank to tell all the other banks to stop transactions with north korea.

what do we know? >> it looks like the order came from the central bank, alyson. it looks like it was for real. it looks like a preventive measure by the chinese to protect their own financial system because they have seen this order signed by the president. while i don't think the order itself will change very much in the north korean calculus, it's a big deal with the chinese have come to the conclusion that they can no longer bank with the north. >> now, maggie, we heard from m mcmaster yesterday, the praise for the use of rocket man, that it was accurate and got people's attention and they are perfect live happy with the state of play there. how deep does that go? >> i don't think the remarks that are said publicly by administration officials about what president trump says are always the most genuine. i think that speech was very striking, as you know because it

was basically in line with what this president was saying about fiery rhetoric for a while. and they were all part of this process. the speech was not a surprise to people. the speech went through the normal speech process. there was nothing unusual about it. look, they are dealing with no good option. i do believe there is some degree of placating the president so he doesn't essentially react against his own advisers on this, so he feels as if his language is his own. it did not play great at the u.n. as we know, this is unusual to say the least. but i think you are dealing with advisers to president trump who a trying to contain his own reactions to the situation at hand and they have a dullahan to play there. >> kim jong-un issued his own statement. here's what he said. he is unfit to hold the prerogative of supreme command of a country and he is surely a rogue and gangster fond of

playing with fire rather than a politician. i will make him pay dealer for his speech, calling for totally destroying north korea. whatever trump might have expected he will face results beyond his expectation. i will surely and definite any tame the mentally deranged us.s tkdotard with fire. >> it is colorful. i saw last night dotard was among the most searched terms last night. i confess i had to go back and refresh my memory as well. >> it is usually used as dotarding idiot. >> i thought it was dotard.

>> a few things about this. first, this is exactly where kim jong-un wants to be. he wants to be right on par with the president of the united states. imagine this. the guy is running a tiny, starving country of 25 million people who we would never think about except on world food day if it was not for the fact that they have nuclear weapons. so he sees the nuclear weapons as the one thing that is cast in the midst of the world stage and preserves his regime. and here he is doing a one-on-one and we're sitting here talking about him in that regard. so he considers this to be a bit of a success. the concern here is that you have many paths where it could escalate out in the real world. that's why the atmospheric test i think would be a significant issue because it would raise

very high the question whether the u.s. should try to take out a north korean missile that was being prepared for launch. and that's how you get on the pathway to a larger conflict. so i think we are at one of the most worrying moments since the 1994 war crisis, which is the closest they have come to the resumption of this korean world. >> we know that dotard and doddering are two different words. of. now, to health care. the last chance for republicans to are peel and replace obamacare. can they get enough sroefts to pass the graham-cassidy bill? we discuss that, next. from our eyes every day. i should know. i have chronic dry eye caused by reduced tear production votes to pass the graham-cassidy bill? we discuss that, next. so i use restasis multidose®.

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thirsty? deadline next week if they want to do an end run around the traditional legislative route. scrambling for votes to repeal and replace obamacare with the graham-cassidy bill. president trump just tweeting about the stakes. he wrote, quote, rand paul, or whoever votes against h care bill will forever, future

political campaigns, be known as the republican who saved obamacare. maggie haberman, state of play? >> this bipartisan moment he had been enjoying for a moment was on pause this morning. look, there's two things going on here this morning. one is republicans who had been campaigning on this issue for three cycles, those who are concerned are worried this is problematic for republicans next year. so that creates added incentive to get this done. there remain a handful of holdouts. it is being criticized not just by republicans who are worried about it but the health care industry. >> not a single group has come out in favor of this bill. >> this is in stark contrast to how obamacare worked, which was bringing in industry players to figure out something broader that could go through with membership mal pain. they only have until next weekend to get this done. it does not look great at the moment. white house officials are

describing it as less than 50/50 but not zero in terms of passage. he's engaged on twitter supporting luther strange. but he has laid off on health care personally. mike pence, the vice president, has been much more involved in round. the president, as we know, has had this ambivalent relationship to the health care repeal efforts. and he has gone back and forth between essentially pinballing around saying on the one hand we will blame democrats. on the other hand, it's some republicans's fault. i don't think they think it's that helpful when the president weighs in. >> in terms of handling health care, not high numbers. only 31% approve of the president's handling at the moment of health care. >> 31%.

>> approval picked up. 40%. 55% disapprove. last month it was 38%. maybe that is connected to, who knows what. >> that is a really low number. it's got to go up. >> these are not huge shifts. frankly, if there was a huge shift, we should be worried about that too. that would raise questions about the validity of it. he consistently has had this stable floor. if he could consistently tick up his numbers, if republicans could get something that looked like tax reform, regardless of what it's actually called, passed he would be able to say, look, i got something done. he is not particularly invested in the obamacare repeal. he felt burned by this for quite some time. as you see his capital tick back

up this is after, again, that bipartisan display that he had what with chuck schumer and nancy pelosi. it is typically what he felt this job was going to be. >> why doesn't that square with trump on health care. this is the meanest iteration we have seen. not only does it take away certain funding mechanisms and tax credits, it replaces them with nothing. yet he said it was a great bill. >> i'm not sure how briefed he is on the specifics of this bill or exactly what it does in terms of who it impacts. >> one of the thought leaders on this, jimmy kimmel, emerged as the person who is kind of winning the charge in opposition to this bill, he, for the third night in a row, has talked about how bad he thinks it is.

he goes after senator kennedy in this clip. listen to this. >> listen, lady. i'm not pertaining to be an expert. i'm asking why you aren't listening to experts like the american medical association. i should not be the guy you you go to for information on health care. if these guys, like kennedy, would tell the truth for a change, i wouldn't have to. >> ouch. >> yeah. he's getting personally. he's engaging in attacks. he's going after people personally with these barbed comments. but he is leading the conversation. part of the reason americans know about this. >> those are some of the most common tactics we see in government. it's all become parody.

>> and it is trickle down insults. there is a common ality of language all around. late night talk show hosts can break through especially in this media environment where that is hard. he has a personal story to tell. the way he is telling it by having just now saying i'm not an expert on this, but he did have a son with congenital heart issues. that has been basically his creation story on his passion on this issue. i don't know how impactful it will be. but it is certainly why a lot of people are able to zero in on what this bill is. people are hearing various iterations about this bill. they tune it out as what's up and what's down in terms of congressional votes. >> all 50 state agencies that run medicaid are against the bill, including louisiana where

kennedy comes from. the governor has problems with this bill. it is so far the most naked of we made a promise, we have to keep it no matter what. >> which chuck grassley did say. he was very blunt that i don't love this bill but we said we would repeal it. this is an albatross for republicans one way or the other going into 2018. >> maggie, thank you. tune in sunday night for a live townhall debate. senators bernie sanders and amy klobuchar will debate and all take questions from the audience. jake tapper and dana bash will moderate. >> it will be debating on something of such importance to you. that's a must-watch. scenes of devastation are

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ciao bella. maria is not gone. she is still very much a major storm as she starts to move towards turks and caicos. army corps of engineering fema and assessing the damage. good to have you on, sir. >> good morning, chris. how are you? >> thank god. the people need our attention. what are you seeing around? >> well, first of all, i would like to say our thoughts and prayers are with everyone here in puerto rico. i know this was very devastating for them.

the corps of engineers are here to continue to support fema with the mission. we have seen a lot of devastation, a lot of trees, did bree and power lines on the ground making our mission a little difficult to reach those in need. >> so in terms of the need, what are you seeing there? what do you think will be required? what kind of timelines are you looking at? >> well, we are here to support fema initial entry or initial support. the biggest need is power. the whole island is without power. we are concentrating on those critical facilities at least to give temporary power so they can continue to execute their mission. so power is the biggest need. and we are here to support that mission to the best of our

capabilities. >> we keep hearing from the governor there, and there is no reason to doubt him, that they could be out of power for a month or more. and it raises the question of why? what is different in puerto rico than we saw in texas, florida and surrounding states where power got up much more quickly? >> it has been 48 hours since maria has hit. we have additional rains for at least another 48 hours. so that makes the access of personnel to make the assessments even more duff for the areas that are really in need. the power grid in puerto rico is so diverse, we will say. we need to make assessments to give a better understanding of what needs to be done and how long it will take to get that done. as i say before, we as the corps of engineers have been supporting different areas from houston to florida to the virgin

islands. and our team that is coming out of mobile, alabama has some experience in this. and we will provide better assessments to fema and the governor in reference to how long it will take to get this done. >> good. that will be much needed information. as a last note, we keep hearing about the death toll and the level of destruction and how many people are gone and what structures are gone. with keep being cautioned we don't know yet. numbers are preliminary. people shouldn't put false home in the numbers so far. do you believe that as well now that you're on the ground that we don't know the extent of the damage and maybe even a human loss. >> i will say in reference to the damage, yes. we don't know the total effects from this storm we hear the same in reference to you to that of

people around the island. but it's just difficult to say at this time. it is difficult for us to make a real assessment of the infrastructure and what is happening right now. >> all right. thank you so much. lieutenant colonel, we know you have more important things to do. use us as a resource to let people understand the situation. be well. be safe. alyson? okay. we're covering so many different topics today. next to health care. what would the graham-cassidy mean for pre-existing conditions? lindsey graham said everyone will be protected. jimmy kimmel disagrees. what's the truth? that's next. "grandma! grandpa!" ♪

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the president said the graham-cassidy bill is a great bill and anyone against it will be punished. one of the architects of obamacare, dr. ezequiel emmanuel. >> nice to be with you this morning. >> not a single medical group in favor. they have almost all come out against it, as have all 50 agents of medicaid representation within all 50 states. i have never heard of anything on of this scale coming out against a bill. why? what concerns people like you about what's in this bill?

>> this billinsomewaysisthe worst of all bills republicans have offered. even senator grassley from iowa just wednesday said there are 10 reasons on substance to vote against the bill. the president's notion that this is great is just false. even by the republican party. the main problem here is it drastically cuts back the amount of money given to states to support poor people, elderly people who need additional assistance, people in nursing homes, and the disabled. and that cutback is huge. and it actually hits a cliff in 2026 when all the money for the expansion of the aca and the exchanges would go away and traditional medicare, which has been in place since 1965, would get another very severe hour cut in terms of cost. 32 million people would lose insurance. one point, which i don't think many people have mentioned, is the fact that by eliminating the

subsidies for the affordable care act, premiums are estimated to go up 15% to 20% in the individual market just from this action alone. so it's not like it's going to actually keep costs down. it's going to raise costs for people who have to buy their own insurance. >> it's hard to see there is anything good in this bill. it seems that's what is driving the republicans. we've just got to do something. anything. >> doc, lindsey graham, one of the architects, he's been selling it. he said that there is a mandate in it that will cough pre-existing conditions. his quote is no one can be denied. he also says that the current system isn't fair because the lion's share of the funding goes to two states, new york and california. and what his goal is to divvy up the pie in a more fairway so mid-western states and western states get their share. >> with all due respect to

lindsey graham, a man i know because he has been close to new family and my brother ron for a while, he is not a health care expert. he's worked on military. >> so where is he wrong? >> he's just not protecting people with pre-existing conditions. he allow states to set up high-risk polls. first, is states don't have to do that. they are the most in efficient way to provide insurance to people with pre-existing companies. >> i'll stop you right there. when hes there is a mandate in his bill for pre-existing conditions, you're saying that does not exist? >> the mandate does not exist. he gives the states the option to eliminate that protection for people with cancer, rheumatoid argument it's, multiple scleros sclerosis. he gives the states the right to eliminate that protection. >> you have to give us another step on it. people either care about this or

they don't. they will say, wait a minute, if the state wants to waiver and waiver means get more money in a block grant they are promising, then you have to do the right thing with pre-existing conditions. that's their counter argument to what you're saying. put it together. >> no. they just have to say, here's our plan. and if your plan is to have these high-risk pools, you can be sure -- i mean, we have a lot of experience with those high-risk pools. they do not cover all people. they do not bring premiums down to the another level. they typically bring them down a little bit. but they are still very high. most experts whoed looked at this say they are not going to be affordable insurance premiums. by the way, we in the obama administration did try high-risk pools for the period between when we passed the affordable care act and when the exchanges went into place, a for-year period. they're very expense itch. just to give you a flavor, to

cover about 3 million people, you would need about $25 billion over 10 years. that is a very in efficient way to get coverage to people, $10,000 per person. so i don't see that as a very good exclusion. plus, remember, for everyone who doesn't have a pre-existing condition who is trying to get insurance, premiums are going to go up because healthy people will stop buying insurance because the costs will be too much. and so no one really wins in in this game except ape few states like texas that get a lot of money out of this. but most of the country, 34 states, get a lot less money? we will see next week. not just because of the september 30th deadline but insurance companies have until the 27th to set their rates for 2018. they have just been told if this is the law they will not get cost-sharing revenues. >> it is chaos everywhere because of this bill. >> great to have you here walking us through it. thank you very much. >> thank you.

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