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organizations. so a heroin user in the united states, when he's putting heroin into his arm may not understand he used to buy that heroin is supporting terrorism, targeting americans here in this country and around the world. >> 75% to 85% of the world's heroin comes from afghanistan. and people get to the country, that is the root of the problem and focus that attention on people that can cause us harm, we'll have a lot more impact. >> in this particular case, we're up against the biggest drug trafficker in the world. as a former fbi agent and chairman of the house intelligence committee, i had over sight of all 16 of our nations intelligence agencies. my name is mike rogers. i had access to classified information gathered by our operatives, people who risk everything for the united states and our families. you don't know their faces or their names. you don't know the real stories
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from the people who lived the fear and the pressure until now. >> on september 11th, enemies of freedom committed an act of war on our country. and leadership has a -- and supports the taliban regime. >> anti-aircraft tracers streak over the capitol city of cabo. >> the taliban was sheltering bin laden. >> the only way to deal with these terrorist threats is to go where their exist. >> the targets, the air military, air defense systems, air fields and war planes. >> we went into afghanistan as a way of self-defense, as a way of
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targeting terrorism. the u.s. pushed the taliban out rather quickly. the leadership of the afghan taliban mostly fled into pack stn, in the area just over the border from afghanistan. >> in less than two months the taliban army had been destroyed and the taliban government replaced with transitional leaders eager to work with the west. >> at the time the basic policy was not to let the tallben come back. so it was a massive international effort to try to rebuild afghanistan, which had been been a very poor under developed country before it had 20 odd years of war. >> it had been through the soviet invasion, civil war and then the time of the taliban. it's as if their souls have been ripped out. >> it's almost inconceivable to americans how shattered this
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country is. >> people say it's medieval there. and it's not medieval. i would say it's like flint stone. it's very primitive. >> so economies were destroyed, and poppies increased in volume. it became an increasingly necessary way for farmers to feed their family. >> translator: we are the poorest people in this area. if we don't cultivate poppies, we can't feed our families. >> afghanistan had 70% of the world poppy production in the world. it also produced over 90% of the world's heroin. so most of the heroin in the world was coming out of afghanistan. it was also supporting the taliban. >> after 2001, the taliban wanted to return to power and re-create the islamic emirate of afghanistan. >> they wanted to institute sharia law again, which is fundamental islam and kick the
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americans out. >> the taliban would infiltrate the local communities and threaten everybody and say it's our way or we're going to kill your family. >> there's also a symbiotic relationship between the taliban and the drug traffickers. the taliban is making it more difficult for police to target the traffickers. they're financially supporting the taliban and logistically. >> narcotics dollars were being used to purchase weapons and ammunition to fight the u.s. and coalition. >> they were conducting their attacks against civilians. they were going after afghan government people, westerners and specifically americans and american military personnel. >> by 2005 the taliban was increasing insurgency in afghanistan and i was reporting that was going to get bigger, more violent. that it was going to be very bloody. it was going to get worse.
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>> the dea doesn't have a war-time mission, however, when we started to see the link between the heroin traffickers around the world and the u.s. troops being killed by terrorists, we thought it was our duty to take the people out responsible for moving all the heroin and then moving money back to terrorist organizations. >> it was ground breaking, certainly in a new part of the world and a level of danger we had not seen since we had taken out so many cartel heads in columbia. >> so we started the office in afghanistan, and i joined the first teams in 2005. which is a dea's international tactical team. >> they are trained in paramilitary operations. they'll train with special forces, special operations. >> the dea's goals were to train the afghan police. we were learning what was going on, not just in afghanistan but in pakistan and the region. we recognize the eastern part of the country and the nangahar
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specifically was the biggest obstacle to bringing the rule of law to afghanistan. the nangahar province was where osama bin laden fled. >> this is like the wild west, a very unsafe place. there's mountainous clan destine labs. there's definitely a large group of players. but haji bagco. >> his organization is extensive. he had hundreds of people working for him. he had individuals that were growing poppy, converting it into opium. there were laboratories where it was processed by chemists, individuals in charge of transporting product out to various countries. he was a criminal master mind. >> he had offices in pakistan,
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afghanistan and distribution networks in 22 countries around the world. >> it became clear that he is kind of the god father. he was really the man in the shadows that was in charge. the other people that were more well known, they kind of work for him. >> the money that he was making, the profits were going into houses, vehicles. a significant portion of it was going to support terrorism. it was going to the haqqani network, the pack stn and taliban. there's untold numbers of people who died because of that heroin and the money being generated was going to people that wanted to destroy the united states. so in 2005 we decided to target
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haji bagcho. our goal was to get evidence that would allow us to prosecute him in the united states. >> every penny you can take away from an insurgency that's targeting our people, you're going to do it. dea's always prided itself in going after the biggest, baddest targets in the world. we're going to come after you. we're going to pursue you as long as we can to find justice. ♪ we are not here to sit idly by. we are here...to leave a mark. experience a shift in the natural order. experience amazing. the u.s. needs to develop more renewable and clean energy resources because there are limits to the amount of fossil fuels that we can burn. since 1925, we have depended on diesel generators,
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being funneled back to the taliban and terrorist organizations, some of which were killing our troops in afghanistan. >> he was having the drug traffickers pay the taliban as a formal jihad. and he repeated that selling it was a way of killing infidels. >> our purpose was not a military strike and take him out. our purpose was to gain the evidence needed to prosecute him in u.s. courts. >> there are two laws we could use. the 959 law is for anyone distributing drugs in the united states.
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the 960 law is a narco terrorism law which is people supporting people engaged in terrorist activities or organizations. >> in this case it was both. haji bagcho as a way of jihad to get american citizens addicted to heroin and supporting terrorist activities in afghanistan. >> so we just started talking to everybody we could talk to. >> dea's bread and butter is human intelligence. that's how we do narcotics cases domestically and overseas. and that's what the dea brings to the war on terror. >> but taliban was regaining a foothold in the more rural communities which made it more difficult for us to operate. we had to be much more careful. we had to conseal our identities. >> so every day my partner and myself, we would put on afghan clothing, we would cover up our weapons. i wore a fake beard, a big baggy black beard and a coal on my head. we rented a local car and we drive out of the base into the country side and we would meet with informants to develop information. it's extremely dangerous. >> it's the wild west.
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also it's very dangerous to be a source. they were putting their life on the line every day. >> we lost many people who were giving us information. if the taliban found out people were working with the government, they would kid nap them, they would torture them. they would behead them. one of the taliban commanders carried a sword around with him and cut the hands off anyone cooperating with the government. >> but the sources wanted the best for their country, so they helped us in securing their nation. but of course we had to pay them well to get the information we needed. >> throughout the investigation we learned that bagcho was very well known in the area. he had somewhat of a celebrity status, wealth, power and the means to buy off government officials. >> haji bagcho was bribing officials, threatening officials. he was smart. he was also ruthless.
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in 2006 we developed one source. he went by the name fareed. that was a pseudonym he was using. fareed was an afghan national whose family was involved in the opium business in the past and could talk directly to haji bagcho about narcotics trafficking. so we had fareed make a series of recorded telephone calls. and in those calls he agreed to sell him 2 kyleose of heroin in exchange for a much larger sample of the united states.
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haji bagcho told fareed to give the money to someone who deals with the informal process of huhwallau. >> hawala is an ancient form of banking, based on trust. and the system you can go deposit money in one city and the money can be picked up by someone else around the world. there was a system not being tracked by other governments, by the united states or police entities around the world. like a human atm system. >> so fareed knew which one that bagcho worked with. so we sent him to go deliver the money to haji bagcho's money man. fareed gave him $5,000 u.s. dollars for the heroin.
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he logged them in his ledgers and then fareed left and a short time later, he called fareed and told him he'd received his money and come to his residence and pick up the heroin. >> conducting an operation against bagcho's network was very complex, very dangerous. moving throughout the area was very hazardous. the taliban was ever present. >> but the dea didn't operate independently. they always operated with afghan forces. it was part of an overall u.s. government counternarcotics plan. so therapy -- they were training the afghans on how to do investigations of drugs, how to conduct raids. >> so we set up an operation to pick up the two kilos of heroin. we had a quick reaction for us where we had trucks with mounted machine guns. so if the source got into trouble, we could go rescue him. we dropped off fareed and fareed
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walked to haji bagcho's compound. brick and clay exterior with large gates. banged down the gate, and was meant by a young man who retrieved 2 kilos of heroin, delivered them to fareed and fareed walked away. if we arrested him too prematurely, we were afraid he'd be released by corrupt officials. >> also we had to be sure we had enough evidence to build the case to prosecute him in the united states. so the next step was to prove that he actually lived at the residence. so shortly after fareed received the kilos, we decided to execute a search warrant, flew into the area and as we were landing, i was on the head set in the helicopter and i heard one of the pilots call out that someone was running from the back door. >> haji bagcho was on the run. oh, you brought butch.
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we were landing i heard one of the pilots call-out that somebody was running from the back door of the bagcho's residence. and we now know that was actually bagcho. we didn't have ground forces to corden the area so he escaped. in this case we didn't mind because we didn't have the case ready for prosecution in the united states. we were still collecting evidence. so we landed. we entered the house. we detained about a dozen people. there were no drugs in the residence, but we obtained some good paperwork, were able to link haji bagcho to that residence. i did go out the back door, and i saw two shows at the back gate where he literally ran out of his shoes while he was escaping. >> he went to the tribal areas in pakistan. so during that time our goal was to build the evidence needed to
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prosecute him in the united states. so we focussed some of our efforts on that dart in the hopes that we would find a paper trail that led back to haji bagcho. >> we wanted to get evidence to show that $5,000 had gone to ha haji bagcho. so we conducted a search warrant at the hawalar's office. and it's a massive sarafi market. there's open areas inside the market. >> it reminded me of, as a child, going to the county fair. all the smells and sounds and people. kiosks, karts. it was very busy. >> and there's legal and illegal businesses going on. >> you could buy a number of things, clothing, office supplies. but you would also have karts that were full of opium based. instead of churros it was disks of opium. lots and lots of opium.
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it was a place where people would come and they would try to advance their career in the worldwide heroin distribution operations. >> and we had hawaladars sending money around the world in this market and each one kept ledgers that recorded these various transactions. whenever we did these types of operations in afghanistan we drew huge crowds. we had to shut off the main street surrounding the market so nobody could escape when we went in, and as soon as we arrive, we're a big target. a lot of the local people were on the side of the criminal organizations and people like haji bagcho moving heroin out of afghanistan because that's what had supported their families for years. >> for the farmer this has nothing to do with political justice. this is about feeding your family. >> the average income in the country was only a couple hundred dollars a year annual income.
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and we were disrupting their way of life. so it was a very dangerous situation. we surrounded the market. we had hundreds of people on the streets. massive mobs while we were doing search warrants at two stalls. our goal was to find the ledger to show that the money fareed had given to shaw went to haji bagcho. these are hand written ledgers that can be hidden. so we searched the offices of zahir shaw. we found the ledger and we were able to gather evidence about haji bagcho's transactions. >> he used the name haji bagcho in his ledger? >> yes. >> these are legal ledgers for the hawaladars.
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they have to have an accurate representation of who owes what to whom. so they're in the ledgers under their real names. it doesn't say who received this money for two kilos of heroin. but it says received money from fareed on this date and given to haji bagcho. so we were able to close the loop. >> what we didn't realize is that we were going to be causing a very large controversy by taking his books. not only was he working with haji bagcho but a lot of other people. so as a result of taking his books, basically we shut down the bank. it was their version of wall street. maybe the way it would have been run in the '30s or '40s in the united states, but it was still a business. we were actually contacted by high ranking members of the afghan government saying you have to give the books back so that commerce could continue. so we spent a lot of time copying the information and had to give them back because we were guests of the afghan government. >> at that point haji bagcho was still in pakistan.
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so november 2007 dea fasted another searched one of which showed haji bagcho was making vast amounts of money with his international heroin operations. >> in just those two ledgers we can show that haji bagcho distributed in that one year period from march of 2006 to march of 2007, 231,000 kilos of heroin. if you take one kilo and distribute it to someone's taking the heroin and putting it in their arm. one kilo can generate approximately $1.5 million. he sold 231,000 kilos. so the amount of kilos that he had is in the billions of dollars for one year. and we know he had more. we had sources who said there were other ledgers that dealt directly with the taliban. so at a minimum he distributed approximately 20% of the world's
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heroin. it's almost too high to comprehend how one organization could supply this much heroin. >> the amount of money that we discovered in the ledgers was shocking. he was stinking rich. and he was funneling his money to terrorist operations in afghanistan. the taliban, al-qaeda. >> we also have witness testimony talking about haji bagcho giving large sums to the taliban. when we saw the information that came out of the ledger, we understood the magnitude of the person we were dealing with. it was validation we were focusing our efforts on the right target. many times information comes in that leads you to believe someone is really a giant target and it may not be as big as you thought. it was just the opposite of haji
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haji bagcho was the most prolific drug trafficker in the world. he was responsible for approximately 20% of the world's heroin. he was also working hand in hand with the taliban. he was funding and enabling acts of terror. >> so between them the information in evidence we got from the sources we ran into and the raid on his compound, i felt confident we had enough to prosecute haji bagcho in the united states. >> at that point, bagcho fell off our radar. he had been on the run for over a year and he was in an area the pakistan government doesn't control. >> we were getting intel he was moving around quite quickly. he knew we were after him at that point. >> but he was still running this multibillion dollar drug trafficking organization from
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pakistan. we focussed on the top production laboratories working for haji bagcho. >> the areas where haji bagcho's network primarily operated out of was very mountainous. it was the mountains right up against the pakistan border. >> these drug labs are at 8 thousand, 10,000, 12,000 feet. which made it very difficult for us to get into unless you came in by helicopter, which we were forced to do. you also have the taliban in these large numbers staying at the drug camps, working with the drug traffickers and physically protecting them. so these were complicated and dangerous missions. you know, it's a life and death thing. but in the end, we would seize heroin, seize representative samples. blow up the labs while we were there. and then we would use our human sources to link that lab to the top producers who actually owned the lab and were working for bagcho. so we continued hitting these laboratories with the goal of
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collecting evidence for prosecution in the united states. >> yet again the taliban have attempted to storm a u.s. military base. the main base in eastern afghanistan came under attack early wednesday. >> in 2008 i was at that airfield. that particular airfield got hit several times while we were there. >> you had ongoing car bombs, rocket attacks, kidnappings. there was a plethora of danger. >> but we were continuing to run sources and while i was at that air field, they had representatives there and said they had a source. so my partner and i agreed to pick up the source for them. we went out and picked them up, we realized this was a man named carry. i first met him in 2006 when we
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did a search warrant. he was almost a part of bagcho's family. he often lived in his house. he tutored his children, and he was intimately involved in haji bagcho's illicit activities. and he agreed to cooperate. >> why? >> maybe he was worried about his life, the involvement of the taliban. there could have been a number of motivations for him. we put a blanket over him and brought him back to the office so he could be interviewed. >> we believe we handle and operate with sources better than any other agency. >> they were instrumental in getting the evidence needed against haji bagcho. >> he was providing information that he was present when haji bagcho gave large sums of money to the taliban. in one meeting he's with the former governor under the
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taliban. they had a meeting in pakistan. during that meeting he gave a large sum of money to taliban commanding for the purpose of targeting americans. >> we thought it would be important to try and get evidence from the horse's mouth and hear from bagcho. >> you can never have too much evidence. so he helped introduce an undercover police officer into the organization, and the undercover police officer made direct conversations with haji bagcho. >> they set up the deal and the afghan police were able to cover it.
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and they were able to take some video of the deal taking place. and they did a controlled purchase of 4 kilos of heroin as sample of drugs that were supposed to come to the united states. shortly after that the under cover was speaking to bagcho. and it became evident that he learned that carri was an informant for the police. he called carri and told him he was going to eat his soul. he knew he was cooperating with police and he was going to kill him. i called carri and told him we would to move him out of that province. >> we got him out fast. the danger levels were at all-time highs. in early 2009 i was in charge of the enforcement group. they were conducting ongoing
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investigations against haji bagcho. and we had several sources out trying to locate him. and it was in march 2009 we were contacted by our office in pakistan and informed that pakistani intelligence service had picked him up on false charges. >> and we reached out to see if they would turn him over. and pakistan was willing to turn him over. >> we had one shot of getting bagcho. and they wanted to hand him over at the gate. >> that's the fatal funnel. >> it's about the worse case scenario you can imagine. >> probably one of the most dangerous places on the face of the earth. you? matter to well, because it tells us something powerful about progress: that whether times are good or bad, people and their ideas will continue to move the world forward. as long as they have someone to believe in them.
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in may of 2009 we received a great break in the case. we got informed that pakistan's intelligence service had picked up bagcho on false documents. initially i was excited, but once i started to think about how the operation was going to be conducted, a dark reality came over that this was going to be a lot harder than i thought it was going to be. the time and drop off were
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determined by pakistan. and they wanted to hand him over at the torkham gate. it's a border crossing between pakistan and afghanistan. it's very chaotic. 15 to 20,000 people cross over on a daily basis. no security, no one's being checked. every fiber in my being said this is not probably the best thing to do, but it was the only way we're going to get bagcho. we flew from kabul, landed at the base. from there we moved up to the gate. and it's a single road that weaves up to the mountains and right up to the crossing. so we would describe it as a fatal funnel. >> you had the mountains and the pass, and there's one way in and one way out. so if you're coming in and your enemies on the other side, all the rounds are coming through that fatal funnel.
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the area was one of the most dangerous places on the face thoof earth. >> it's about the worst case scenario you could imagine. we just had to hope pakistan was going to follow through with their end of the bargain. once our unit got out to the hand over point, they waited in position. and we described this area as the "x." >> that is the designated meeting spot, and you want to get off the "x" quickly because if somebody setup a sniper attack, they're going to plan it on the "x." >> so at that point we were most vulnerable. we were just sitting ducks up there and the clock was ticking. time seemed like it dragged. stakes were really high. it was nerve racking.
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>> after 15 minutes or so two individuals walked up with a sheet. the theory behind that is no one knows who's under the white sheet. but there's so much going on, and so much chaos that it didn't draw a huge amount of tension. introductions were very brief but these are introductions we no experience with so our trust was fairly low. so things going through our mind as we're grabbing him is this a suicide bomber, someone going to detonate and kill our agents or is this really bagcho? so we quickly moved him into a vehicle, took the sheet off and it was in fact bagcho. we quickly moved through the area and made it through the base. and i breathed a sigh of relief. but ultimately i was not going to feel completely satisfied
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until we had him on an aircraft and he was heading back the united states. after we got bagcho, we secured him in an afghan detention facility. >> at the time afghanistan didn't have an extradition treaty with the united states. so it was always a little risky for us to capture people in afghanistan, because the final approval for removing someone from afghanistan was with the president. it might not be in the best interest for afghanistan to release an official, especially with someone that has a lot of influence as an elected official. they have to watch out for the next election. so we were a little worried we could get bagcho out of afghanistan. >> so while he was in the custody of the afghan police, myself and phil kearney went and talked to him.
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he seemed incredulous that he could be prosecuted in afghanistan or even taken to the united states. >> he wasn't cooperative. he denied everything. he just claimed to be a farmer. even said he'd never seen heroin or opium, he was not part of any heroin trafficking organization, we had the wrong man and he was guilty of nothing. i wrapped up the interview, thanked him for his time j i told him i would see him in court in the united states and he just laughed. he laughed. he thought that was so funny. he told me i'll never be in the united states. man... ...saving 50% on these samsung galaxy note 8s from sprint was a genius idea! and they have the best price for unlimited. now we can finish our work before we get to work. i love our office... janice's birthday!! ommmm... 17.... i love mondays.... (vo) get it done, on the samsung galaxy note 8,
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after several weeks of political negotiations the government of afghanistan agreed to extradite bagcho to the united states. >> i was shocked. i had assumed that it would take years, if ever, for him to be released from afghanistan. but at the end of the day they knew we had a strong case against him. and we provided enough evidence to prove our case. once we got the call, we picked up bagcho, and we transported him via armored vehicles to an airfield where we had a d.e.a. aircraft on standby.
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>> i directly tried to talk to him, tell him, hey, we're going to be moving you over to bagram air base. put your seat belt on, don't make any moves. essentially, just let him know we were in control of the situation and he just needed to sit back and enjoy his last flight in afghanistan. >> did you offer him peanuts? [ laughter ] no. >> so once we moved him over to the bagram air base, we put him in a temporary holding facility. and after ten days of baby-sitting bagcho around the clock, we finally arranged military transport for him to leave the country. the night we boarded bagcho to head back to united states, i really breathed a sigh of relief. because i finally knew this guy was going to the united states to face justice. >> once he arrived, i made good on my promise. i was waiting for him there at the air base. he looked up and saw me, and it was at that moment he realized he had just arrived in the u.s. you could see the blood leave his face.
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and i welcomed him to the usa. i put him in my car and we took a short trip through d.c. i wanted to make sure he saw the u.s. monuments. he realized even though he was supporting the taliban and al qaeda what they had tried to inflict upon us, that we were still going. he wasn't going to stop us. i would think in his mind it was a horrible time. because everything that he knew before and all the power he thought he had was gone. he was booked into metro jail in d.c. with a lot of really bad men that are in the jail there. and i'm sure it was quite the culture shock for him. and i started to exit the scene at that point. i had been to afghanistan ten times over four years. it had taken its effect on me and many others. and i had put in for a transfer.
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and i moved to a new d.e.a. office in a new country and tried to decompress after all the things you'd seen and been a part of. >> so we went to trial in 2011. we had a three-week trial. >> haji bagcho was charged with conspiracy to distribute heroin, knowingly import to the u.s., engaging in drug trafficking and providing funds to terrorist organization. >> to just look at him you wouldn't know that this little man was responsible for so much death. we brought in 17 witnesses as far as away as hong kong. we had six or seven afghanistan witnesses who came from afghanistan at great risk to themselves and to their families, and testified against haji bagcho. >> he continued to deny he had anything to do with any wrongdoing. >> and after a three-week trial we had a hung jury. they couldn't come a verdict.
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so we had to send the witnesses back. we had to reconstitute the case and we re-tried haji bagcho again in the spring of 2012 and the jury came back pretty quickly with a guilty verdict. >> he was found guilty of all the charges and he was sentenced to three life sentences in the united states. >> i think he was shocked when the actually happened. >> he appealed one, so he's down to two life sentences right now. the other ones are pretty rock solid. >> the prosecution of bagcho really paved the way for future operation against foreign kingpins and especially as they relate to terrorism, not only in afghanistan, but throughout the world. >> the arrest of haji bagcho did not stop other criminal organizations from coming in and filling the void. >> but it sent a message no one was safe. if we could get haji bagcho, we could get anybody. also, we denied thele the ban
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hundreds of millions of dollars. the afghan police had arrested him and the afghan police released him to the united states. so we saw that their system or rule of law was starting to work. >> you hear a lot about these far away places. why should we care? >> because in the end it comes back here. in osama bin laden's writing, he talks about drawing the united states into war in afghanistan. he talks about the united states won't be able to handle it and will be refeeted. if we lose in afghanistan, what we're saying to the whole islami jihadi movement and bin laden was right, we can't hack it. that would stand as a kind of proof of divine sanction for their side. if you don't think we're going to pay a heavy price for helping them prove god's on their side, i think you need to take another think. >> there were certainly some afghans that supported the
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taliban. but most afghans wanted the best for their country. and there were many afghans who put their life on the line to help us. and that'll be for people to come after me in my career to go after the next generation of heroin traffickers. but haji's not doing it anymore. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> anthony: i'm told you're a man who can help me. sometime in mid-19th century, 1850s, my great-great-great-grandfather jean bourdain emigrated to south america. he was reported to have died here. might have been a seeker of utopian dreams.
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