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right by you. not even 30 minutes. we went 15 minutes to ba arkbaj of the closest areas to the nexus of reand recovery. two things are very obvious to anyone on the ground. the first responders there are working very, very hard about that. let's talk about different leaderships and talked to people just doing the work. they needed reassurance because they believed they were being derighted by the media. we know the president said the media is going after first responders which is never been true. the thing that is equally true is the relief is not reaching the people the way it needs to. there may have been things delivered to all 78 municipalities as the white house is putting out, it's not
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getting to the people. why? two big reasons. one is communications. they don't have them. they don't know where to go. they were watching the speaker announcing where to go to file a fema claim and wish them well. the second reason is logistics. dealing with a government that is inefficient on a local level. the typical chain of command that you have seen so many times play out with the state and the national guard. didn't happen that way there. other logistical problems that go from the physical to the strategic. the bottom line is we know they are there and working very hard and it's not getting done the way it needs to get done, wolf. >> let's see if the president will say a few words. he is getting closer. he already had one meeting with the governor among others. let's listen in and see what he's saying.
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>> what did you think? >> we knew the inspection, however they were never inspected. it's worse than anything i have seen. >> but did you fear that the house was going to go? >> the second floor probably. not the house. >> good going. >> the president is here with the administrator. fema is going to come over here with the efforts to rebuild. we will make it get back again. >> thank you.
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>> the governor and the mayor have done a fantastic job. >> thank you. >> we heard the president of the united states tell a san juan resident your governor and mayor have done a really fantastic job. i'm going to keep on listening in and see what else we can hear from the president. you see melania with the president as they are walking around right now. what was interesting when he said not just the governor, but the mayor has done a fantastic job. she was at the meeting with the president that started about an
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hour ago. clearly there was tension between the mayor and the president. maybe they cleared that up. chris cuomo, you were there and you had a chance i assume to meet with the mayor. i spoke with her. she was really upset at the comments from the acting secretary of homeland security when she suggested the acting secretary. this was a good story. unfortunately we have oust our connection with chris. are you there, chris? >> yes, i am. i lost the second half of that. >> i was wondering when you heard the president say the governor and the mayor have done a fantastic job, i thought that was significant. it looks like he and the mayor have improved their relationship. >> look, that can only be a good thing any way you want to measure it. any political intrigue and negativity is inherently counterproductive.
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why? it's not about them. they have to do their job and get their help to the people on the ground. they are already dealing with a deficient situation and you have a huge basis of need. that was in the best of days. the political intrigue while it may have driven a lod of headlines did nothing to benefit the people on the ground. the leadership that is needed it the hardest part. the physical resources to do this work. anywhere that the president goes on the ground, he is going to see it. he went 15 minutes outside that place by design. our feeling is this place will have been flooded with the types of help it needs. no pun intended there obviously. when we got there, there was not
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a single sign of any relief agency there. other than a local church. we saw a local church in the red pennies. the recovery is always slow. i don't need to tell you that. it is equally true that they didn't have the communications and they were only acting off rumors. even if there were stores of things for them to get. essentials. they didn't know where. and they were getting scared about what time will bring for them. that's just the truth. if the president sets that tone on the ground, great. if he puts to bed silly
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political opposition, better. >> looks like he is trying to move on and meet with residents in puerto rico and hear their stories. he is only going to spend about five or six hours on the ground in puerto rico before he heads back to washington. tomorrow he will head out to where you are in las vegas to meet with survivors and family members from the horrible, horrible massacre that occurred on sunday night. we will have a lot more on that story. i want to focus on puerto rico. the president of the united states is there. david is with us and he is the press secretary for the department of homeland security. it looks like the president is trying to reach out and move beyond that very bitter personal attack and counter attack that he and the mayor went through. >> as chris said, it's only to the positive. we need everyone working together. it's always the case in a disaster situation like this. the federal government relies on
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local officials from the governor on down. we need every mayor and every municipality and leader to be on the same team and help us get the aid to the people who need it. >> everyone is with the president with the acting secretary of homeland security and the governor and the mayor is there. the three-star general buchanan who is in charge of this recovery operation in puerto rico. anybody not there who is working this problem? >> one thing. general buchanan is in charge of the military effort. the dod piece. fema is still the lead federal agency. there is a federal ceo who has the lead for the effort. general buchanan is leading the dod effort. you are right. a lot of people on the ground certainly cabinet officials who are leave with the president and go back and they continue the hard work. >> he is standing and posing for
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pictures in the san juan area. as we have been saying, it's one situation in san juan and a different situation when you leave the city. you are making progress and let's go through the numbers. how many fema officials are on the ground right now in puerto rico? >> more than 600 fema officials and more than 12,000 federal officials. >> does that include the milita military? >> it does. >> how many military personnel? >> i don't have that break down. 12,000 total. >> military and civilian including coast guard? >> correct. >> coast guard is on the scene as well and the president will be meeting with the governor from the u.s. virgin islands and will get a briefing. the situation in the u.s. virgin islands is pretty awful as well.
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>> it is. thanks for bringing that up. often times with the focus on puerto rico, they are rightfully so, but not to forget the virgin islands that was devastated by the storm. >> what was she suggesting when she said this was a good news story. authorities a lot of backlash with that. what was she trying to convey? >> i know she was trying to convey her pride in the effort in the hard work being done boy the men and women are not only department of homeland security, but all of our federal partners as well as the governor and officials in puerto rico as well. i think she was trying to convey there are good things going on. we said we won't be satisfied until power is back on and families are back in their homes. >> about an hour or so the president was meeting with officials and u.s. government officials and military personnel
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and he said, i don't know if he was trying to joke a little bit, but he said the disaster, the hurricane fallout in puerto rico has thrown our budget out of whack. you heard him say that. does that set the right tone for this kind of meeting that he is having when he is saying that the disaster that has happened in puerto rico has set the federal budget out of whack? >> i think he went on to say but we will take care of it. it's a matter of fact that not only what happened in puerto rico, but three major storms that it impacted in the united states over the last month require lots of resources and will require resources for years to come. >> he tweeted this the other day. such poor leadership by the mayor of san juan and others in puerto rico who are not able to get their workers to help. they want everything to be done for them when it should be a community effort. that in part got the mayor upset
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and he is now suggesting they have done a fantastic job. you can understand why people in puerto rico were upset when he said they want everything to be done for them. >> understand why people are upset. the other unique element of this storm is just the impact to the people of puerto rico. to include local officials. you talk about truck drivers not being available. because they have been severely impacted by the storm. their ability to get to their jobs is impacted in ways we have not seen. it's not blaming anyone, but recognizing the conditions that made it hard for the island and the people of the island to be part of the solution as we would like them to be. that's improving every day. >> do you have an estimate at all from the defendant of homeland security how many billions if not tens of billions of dollars it will cost to help the people of puerto rico? >> i don't think we know yet.
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assessments are going on at all times. the the power grid is going to be a huge piece of that. and that will take years and so trying to ascertain and trying to assess how much aid is going to be required to put the infrastructure back in a semblance of order not only this year, but years ahead. >> we expect the president to speak shortly. i don't know if you have to leave, but if you can stick around, that would be good. our chief medical correspondent has been over the past several days in puerto rico. he is still there. if you have a question for the press secretary, that would be good, but i want to get your sense of where things stand from the medical perspective. there is a huge need. >> there is a tremendous need and we are in that window where there are people who may not have been adversely affected by
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the hurricane itself and they survived, but this is an elderly population that is more likely to have illnesses like hypertension and diabetes. the situation can turn into a concern about preventable deaths at this point. that's what i'm hearing a lot from the relief organizations on the ground. project hope has been doing incredible work getting out on foot and walking around and treatment bags in hand trying to reach the hard to access areas. there are people who have been going without for sometime over there. it's really a crucial time right now. again, these are not people who were necessarily directly affected at the time of the hurricane, but are teetering on the edge right now. that's where a lot of the focus has been. >> you make an excellent point, sanjay. you have been to the hospitals and maybe there were 40 or 50
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major hospitals in puerto rico right now. maybe 50 or 60 are fully operational. what are you hearing about those numbers? >> there are hospitals that are able to do more work and take in more patients. what happens if the fuel doesn't get replenished the next day or the day after. the patients that have to be transferred out or get the level of care they would otherwise be getting. they talked to people on the central part of the island and concerned that people are within
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their own communities and shelters because they are too sick to have been able to get to help hospitals. they have to prepare for them as well. take care of the acute patients right now. reliably. anticipate the others that will be coming in over the next several days and weeks. >> i want you to hold out for a moment. the press secretary from the department of homeland security is with us. public schools in puerto rico will be closed for a long time, maybe the entire school year at least in chunks of the island. is that right? >> i don't know how long they will be close and they are looking at the impacts and starting to look at what other options there are to include relocationing some of the children to mainland united states for schooling. we are early in the process. that's something that we are working with the governor and government of puerto rico to consider who the long-term impacts might be and what we might be able to mitigate.
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coming to the united states to settle their kids in school, for example. you see huge numbers trying to get out right now? >> not right now, but part of that is because of the impacts of the storm. it's only very recently that the airports have been opened and that airlines are running regular service. we are also having to deconflict them with aid and medical supplies and things like that. it's balancing commercial flights that are able to take people off of the island to other places like the mainland united states. when they are degraded in their ability to operate fully. >> the president contrasted the death toll in puerto rico with what happened in katrina. the numbers and what are the latest numbers that you have.
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>> the death toll remains at 16. i believe that earlier when the president was there, one of the officials verified that that remains the same. we expect it to rise as we get out into more remote areas of the country. it is astonishing given the size and the devastation that this point only 16 confirmed deaths. >> stand by if you can. chris cuomo was in puerto rico and now in las vegas. i want you to update the viewers as we wait for the president who will be speaking shortly. the latest we get on the massacre at that country music concert that was so awfully disruptive. >> wolf, the most important thing for people to know is that
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this situation is far from over. the street behind us that runs in front of the mandalay bay hotel is not open and it's not that way because of convenience. it's closed because it's a crime scene. they are very much trying to process what happened there. a lot of people were. they have to understand everything that happened. it takes time. it's pain staking. also there is a lot of unknowns. you have a massive humanity that have gone through the hospital system here and the trauma centers here that people are trying to connect. that's important for people to remember as well. investigatively it's not about looking into this mad man that decided to murder all of these people, that's part of it, but who are the people who are hurt? have they found their families and how long is it going to take to care for them and understand what happened here? to help build on the investigation in terms of what may need to change going down the road. all of that has to happen and is
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happening concurrently and that will take time. somebody who knows this very well and gave a lot of information herself is the senator who is a democrat here in nevada. i'm sorry to have to be with you under these circumstances, but thank you for helping us to understand the situation. you were saying the identification and the understanding of the crime scene itself and the connecting of families looking for loved ones, still very much in the initial stages. >> last night i was at the family resource center being set up to connect family members with their loved ones. there are families there who have not found their loved ones. not for lack of trying. they have gone to the hospitals and trying to find where they are and locate them and they still haven't. >> because? >> either their identification is not with them or because our coroner is working night and day to identify the unfortunate,
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horrific death toll of the 59 and identify them. it is taking our coroner time to do it. they are working through that process and working 24-7. they have the support of the medical examiners from the city of new york as well as the coroner in san bernardino. everyone is working hard. at the same time the families are suffering. to me, that's what this is about. i went to see and went to the family resource center and talked with the families. they are suffering and they are looking for some sort of hope that their loved one, they can connect with them and find them and that they are still alive. a lot in this community are unknown. for me and many of my colleagues in this community is about bringing that support and comfort and relief. i can't tell you how many grief counsellors are out in the community. i am proud of the response of the community. everybody has come out. the grief counsellors were there and in the hotels and the staff
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who were affected by the horrific event that happened south of the strip were there and sought. it is going to scar many of us emotionally for a long time. >> in terms of symbols, symbols matter and how people remember. every time you look at that hotel, the two windows stick out more than anyone else. that's where the murderer was as he was firing down on the concert. one of the realities you have to deal with going forward in terms of what can be done to make this less likely to occur again is this is so ugly and harsh for people to hear, but it's the truth. your coroner and people who are upon heading him are having a hard time identifying people because of what happens. it's not as easy as they assume. that's chris and we have that done. it takes time. that speaks to the gravity of the situation.
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does it not? >> i don't want to put words in the coroner's mouth. i worked with him for a number of years and have confidence he is doing his job. >> but it's a hard job. >> absolutely hard. right. the other thing is it's not -- it was such a massacre. it was horrific. they are inundated. it's a matter of making sure they are preserving whatever evidence they need for law enforcement and doing what they need to do to get through this. as fast as they can to make sure the families don't suffer that are still waiting for an answer. that's part of this. let me put this into perspective. this is my community. i was born and raised here. husband and i still live here. there are many of us that had family and friends at that concert. this is going to live with us for a long time. with that said, this community and the out pouring and the response was phenomenal.
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after 9/11, not only for our first responders and law enforcement and medical, but all of the staff that you see every time you come out to las vegas in these hotels, they have been exercising and training twice a year to respond to any horrific event. they work 24-7. this is about everybody that has been prepared for an incident not that you want it to happen, but they have come and they have trained and are working hard and will continue to bring that support to southern nevada. we get over $40 million visitors here suddenlily. >> no question, but with the volume, you can never prepare for something like this. what do you do in terms of soft target security? what do you do with the fact that we see so many of these frustrations is always the same. how did this guy get this many guns and do this damage? look what they were able to do. that stalls almost as quickly as
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it starts. do you think when you go to d.c. anything is different with the discussion about how to stop this from happening again than it is right now? >> it can't be and i will tell you why it's not different. now i'm in d.c. i had a conversation with my colleague this morning. we need to have the discussion. now i get to be a part of that discussion which is very important for me. i was the attorney general for eight years and prosecutor for 10 years advocating for common sense gun control measures in nevada and across the country. i will continue to do so. this is such an important discussion we need to have. many here in nevada get it. that's why they passed question one here supporting background checks and making sure guns are not in the hands of the mentally ill or terrorists. it is a conversation we are ready to have that many support and should be having it. it's an important discussion. >> laws are only as good as enforcement and you have an ugly
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reality where he was able to get them. we look forward to covering them. i'm sorry for what the community suffered here and we are here to tell the story. >> thank you for being here. >> wolf, to you, sir. >> i will get back to you and pick your brain not only in las vegas, but puerto rico as well. we are getting new information as we speak on the gunman's past. we are also getting new video from inside the mandalay bay hotel. we will take a quick break. our special coverage resumes after this. gry eyes ♪ ♪ one look at you and i can't disguise ♪ ♪ i've got ♪ hungry eyes ♪ i feel the magic between you and i ♪ ♪ hungry eyes feed those hungry eyes with new signature entrées. applebee's two for twenty. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.
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authors found another 19 guns at paddock's home in mesquite, nevada with several thousand rounds of ammunition. they found ammonium nitrate that can be used to make explosives and found that material in his car. our correspondent is joining us from las vegas. the worst mass shooting in modern u.s. history. do authorities think he may have been planning something even more horrific based on what they found so far? >> if that's the case, they certainly haven't said so. it's fair to say there is no obvious motive here. no criminal history and no signs of mental illness with no tie to any political or religious group. those are the things you immediately look for. apparently his one real passion gambling, high stakes poker in
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las vegas and had an affinity for weapons. he had 23 guns in his hotel room. experts said it's clear they were modified in some fashion turning the guns into military grade machine guns, wolf. >> we are learning more about how police carried out the raid from paddock's hotel suite. a large suite with lots of windows and pictures from inside the suite prior to the stay, what can you tell us about that? >> we are getting new video of what that hotel room looks like. this was sent in by someone who previously stayed in that suite. it gives you an insight to the lifestyle the shooter was living. this was a nice, spacious suite. we heard his brother say the shooter liked living the lifestyle of a high profile las vegas gambler and spent a lot of time here. i can guarantee that the casinos
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loved having his business. they don't build these beautiful hotels because people win. they build them because they lose. they liked having his business and it's not uncommon for someone who gambles an enormous sum of money to be given a complimentary suite. >> do we know if it was complimentary because he was a big time gambler? has the hotel told us that? >> they have not said so, but the point i was making is he came here all the time and gambled a lot of money. if that was the case, it would not be unusual? >> has the hotel said if he paid, how much he paid for it? >> they haven't said if it was complimentary or if he paid for it. >> it was a huge suite and all the windows there and a living room and's bedroom and the bar.
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we don't know if it was a comp and he got it because he was a big time gambler or he paid for it. maybe we will find out. you are gathering more information. investigators continue to piece together the gunman's past including where he got the 42 guns in the hotel room and his residence in mesquite, nevada about an hour or so outside of las vegas. he bought some of them from a gun shop across the nevada border in utah. the store's owner said the purchases didn't necessarily raise any alarm bells. >> he didn't set off any of my alarms. anything that i felt like there was a problem in any way, shape, or form with him. he came in another time and wanted a firearm. he knew what he was looking for in the shotgun i sold him. i found it and i supplied it to him because i didn't see anything. nothing again stood out. he was a normal everyday guy that walks in 50,000 times a
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day. >> cnn's brian todd is on the scene. we heard from the brother of the shooter that there was not necessarily a long history with guns for this killer. what are you learning and where did he get the guns? >> reporter: aside from the gun shop in utah, the owner that you ran the sound from, we have confirmed he bought guns at three locations in nevada. dixie gun works where he bought a shotgun and is new frontier gun shop in las vegas. he bought a shotgun and a rifle from there. another is in mesquite where he had a residence. he bought a hand gun and two rifles. if you look at that and the gun store in utah, that only accounts for a few guns he had. we learned from law enforcement he had 23 guns just in the suite here at the mandalay bay hotel and 19 more firearms at his home in mesquite. that's 42.
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we are only accounting for a few out of the 42 at least that we know he had. digging on that and all the places where he could have gotten guns, possibly in the west coast of california, nevada and utah, i'm sure we will get more on that. digging on information into his possible motive and a person who could really give information on that motive. his girlfriend, a woman named marilou danley, his girlfriend according to law enforcement personnel. they said marilou danley is cooperating and expected to arrive back in the united states tomorrow on wednesday. we just got that from a law enforcement official. police said she was not involved in the shooting and she was in tokyo at the time of the shooting. we have also just confirmed from a law enforcement official that the shooter, stephen paddock wired about $100,000 to the philippines in recent days.
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we believe his girlfriend is from the philippines and has family there. unclear exactly when he wired it and who the recipient was. we are digging on that information. we learned that marilou danley was in tokyo at the time of the shooting. she is cooperating with law enforcement and expected to arrive back in the united states tomorrow. i was told by law enforcement that they contacted an associate of the girlfriend and for more information on this. again, she can be incredibly crucial to the investigation. she can speak to his movements in the days and weeks before the shooting and possible motivation. did their relationship have anything to do with the shooting? she can speak to anything he might have spoken about in the days and weeks ahead of the shooting. her information is expected to be crucial. one law enforcement official told us that he is certain that was an event trigger that will come to light because of the meticulously planned nature of this attack.
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something clearly just was a mark that set him off. again, the girlfriend's information will be crucial when she arrives in the united states tomorrow. >> that's new information that she will arrive back tomorrow. lots of questions tomorrow i'm sure. brian todd in las vegas. i want to go back to chris cu o cuomo. you have another special guest. >> we do. one of the issues that has to be discussed here is how did he get the guns. you will hear that. this assumption that he has 42 guns and you must have gotten them in a way that was illegal. not necessarily. there is nothing illegal about building up a cache of weapons overtime. we don't know that. if he got his hans on an automatic weapon,that's almost all illegal. you can change semi automatic to
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automatic. why that is legal is part of the law and that discussion. what we are dealing with here is the human toll of what happened here. so many came under the eyes of the murderer. thank god most of them were able to get away. not all. with each of them, the story of what they saw and how they had to deal with it makes you think about what matters in life. one of the people who was lucky enough to get out is named brendon o'neal. you have been standing here listening to these discussions about what's going on. can you believe still that you lived through this event or are you numb at this point? >> yeah, i'm still in shock. i can't believe what went down. it's pretty surreal. i was back stage right. i thought it was the speakers popping off at first. i'm looking around and i can see the tech guys are on the radio like what's going on?
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then pop pop pop pop pop pop pop again. oh, man, the sound system is probably going off or something. and then the third time it happened, it was so loud. you had to put your hands over your ears because it was so loud. pop pop pop pop pop upon pop po pop. i thought the speakers were going to explode. >> when did you realize it wasn't the sound system. >> it completely shut off and you hear he's got a gun. you just hear screams like -- i look at the crowd and the crowd just -- just chaos. running every which way. security guys said can you exit out the back. my buddy and i run down the stairs and we are running towards the right and running to try to get to the outlet to go to the parking lot. we just see people like a sea of
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people. pushing down fences and climbing and trampling each other. people down. people screaming and bleeding. it was just like a whirl wind of chaos. when we get to the entrance, i hear bullets all-around us. i can hear them popping and cracking. we thank god there was a police vehicle right there and we were able to jump behind the police vehicle. bullets just ping, ping. cracking all over the place. relentless. nonstop. pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop. the girls are screaming and crying and bleeding. i don't know if they are hit or what. one guy is like, he's coming this way. we are tripping out because we don't know if there are guys or whoever in the venue coming at us with guns or coming from the hotel or what. we had no idea where it was coming from.
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complete chaos. we tried to run towards the parking lot again. this girl is laying on the ground. had he ev her friend is hysterical. she is shot. shot in the head. we were like oh, my god. my buddy and a couple other people lift her up and bring her to that police vehicle we were just at taking cover and put her there. i don't know if she made it. she was completely not there. so heavy. and then we put her there and more. just bullets. pop pop pop pop pop pop pop. so loud. we just ran to the parking lot and went to the right and there was just the cement median like three foot cement medians and we
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took cover and saw policemen running towards us. just like running for their life saying you have to get out of here right now. we just started running again. and then out of nowhere, this van came and was like hey, get in. get in. we were like oh, my god. it was like a guardian angel at this point. i jumped in the van and two girls were in the back hysterically crying. oh, man. just reliving the whole situation is like -- >> as helpful as it is to understand, there is no reason to do something for yourself that's not going to help you. you were taking video there. what made you think let me try to capture a little bit of this? that's what brendan does. he is a photographer. what were you thinking? >> instinct. i wanted the camera going in
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case -- in case anything. capture anything that can help or see the shooter or if i get shot or whatever, at least someone can see who this person is. it was like my gun at the moment. i didn't have anything to protect myself so i was like i'm going to document the situation. try to survive. >> when you got out of there and started to hear about the people not making it, how did you deal with that? >> oh, man, i saw people not making it. i saw people laid out on the ground everywhere. all over the place. yeah. >> your friends? people you know who were there. did people get out? >> my buddy dan, he and i were running side by side. he has military training so it was nice to be next to him just
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to be in those situations to know what to do and what not to do. going off of instinct. >> you can't plan for something like that. everything was stacked against you because a murderer decided to make it that way. all you could do is figure out your way out of that. thank got you were successful with your friend. your family knows you are already? you got in touch with them. >> i reached out to everyone. my heart and prayers and love go out to the victims that were there and their families. it's so devastating and so traumatic. the words don't even describe. i have been trying to tell people and i can't really describe. the only analogy i have is saving private ryan. the guy is on the machine gun and they are coming up the beach and he is mowing down everybody.
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>> listen, spend your time taking care of yourself and realizing that you're alive and your best days in are front of you. that's all you know for sure. everything else is guesswork for us. even what is tomorrow. i'm sorry i had to meet you this way, but i'm happy you are well. >> thanks, man. >> you keep taking your pictures and your video. you live your life and thank you for helping us understand just how bad it was there for people like you. >> thanks. appreciate it. >> we appreciate it. thank you. wolf, you know, you are meeting people day and night who made it out of that situation. they were put in a position that they never should have been put in. by somebody who represented the worst in human nature. they were there doing what we want, trying to have a good time and enjoying life and listening to music. thank god most of them lived to tell the story. we know a lot who did not and a lot of families are waiting to
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find out whether or not their loved one is a victim and where they are. we will tell those stories as well. >> you have to think about it, chris. 59 people died in that slaughter. more than 500 injured and many remain in local hospitals in critical condition. think about there were 22,000 concert goers there that heard that killing field that was going on. the days and weeks and months and years to come, they will be haunted by that. i know the people you are talking to are individual stories. but they continue and continue and you multiply it by the thousands and you get a sense of the enormity. i'm sure you can feel it where you are. >> there is no question about it. nothing that you can say we are here just to listen. in situations like this, you and i have been around too many of
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them. the burden of what you are talking about which is the absolute truth will be a blessing overtimeful they have that gift of being able to work through this horrible moment, but they have the rest of their life that is precious. they know that in a way they didn't know it before. that's the hope. that this winds up being a reminder of how precious life is and how much it matters and that there is an appreciation that helps them deal with what is a pain that nobody should have put upon them. >> so grateful to all of those who risked their lives to save others including people they didn't even know. we will get back to you. stand by in las vegas. more on other breaking news. president trump right now is in puerto rico. he just met with victims of the hurricane. he briefed with local and federal officials and raised eyebrows talking about the cost of the disaster in puerto rico. >> i hate to tell you, puerto rico, but you are throwing our
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budget a little out of whack. we spent a lot of monopuerto rico, but that's fine. we saved a lot of lives. if you look at -- every death is a horror, but if you look at a real catastrophe like katrina and you look at the tremendous hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people that died. you look at what happened here with really a storm that was totally overbearing and nobody has seen anything like this. what is your death count? 16 people certified. 16 people versus in the thousands. >> 1,833 people died in the aftermath of hurricane katrina back in 2005. democratic congressman luis gutierrez visited puerto rico over the weekend. give us your reaction to what we just heard from the president about the cost to u.s. taxpayers
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and what will be in puerto rico and >> i wish he would stop talking about money. i wish he would stop talking about what a human life is worth. how do you put that on the score card? there is no cost that you can put on a human life and i wish the president would stop. i'm happy that the official toll, right, which could have been in the hundreds. he says it is 16. okay. but you know what? wolf, here's what i think, i think hurricane maria said, i am taking 16 on the first round, luis and the world, and it's going to be in your hands how many more i take in the coming weeks. and the president is visiting puerto rico and san juan. that's good, that's flat land. for those of us who have visited the island and gone into the interior mountains, there are still people who don't have water, who still don't have food, who still don't have medical care. and you know what, wolf?
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they're going to die. so let's stop talking about the death count until this is over. in the coming weeks, we will know the true magnitude. but i will tell you that today, there are millions of people suffering without water, without electricity and without guarantee to food and medical assistance. >> also as you know, congressman, he's getting criticism for when he met with local officials and federal officials upon his arrival in puerto rico. help went around the room asking for praise and response. and people are wondering if that's the right question right now. i don't know if you saw that exchange he had with local and federal officials. >> let me just say, i did, i watched, it's been heartbreaking to watch cnn because puerto rico and because of the reporting from las vegas. so that is heartbreaking also. but let me just say this, wolf, we need an evacuation of people from the island of puerto rico.
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let's remember, he brought up katrina, 80% of the population was evacuated from new orleans. now, i'm not saying we should evacuate millions of people today, but you want to know something? there are people that are in harm's way. we should build bridges, get them out of the mountainside to a place of safety. and a place of safety in puerto rico means, another place without water and without electricity. look, in the city of chicago, mayor rahm emanuel and i, we're ready to receive thousands as i know the puerto ricans and those in orlando and tampa and across the united states, we should begin to think about the people on dialysis and get them the hell out of harm's way, instead of looking for praise. we should think about people today that are in chemotherapy in hospitals and the elderly and the wounded and get them out. let's get the children out of
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harm's way and let's put them in a safe place in the 48 states of the united states of america. yes, you're right, mr. president, it is an island surrounded by water that is the very nature of the island. and you know what? there's no way out. i called today for airline tickets, there are no airline tickets. even if you want to rescue your loved one, i have calls to my office, wolf, of people telling me my aunt has leukemia, can you help me get her out of there? i have children who don't have water and food, can you help me get them back to the united states? let's get them to a safe place. instead of looking for congratulations and try to act like this is over. this is only the beginning of what i know it's going to turn into just such a tragedy for the people of puerto rico. >> i know that a lot of puerto ricans would like to leave puerto rico right now, come to the mainland of the united states and eventually go back home, but do you see any
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evidence, congressman, that there are boats, ships on the way to help people come to the united states? that there are charter planes going in to bring people to the united states? >> wolf, i ask you and your team to try to get a ticket out of chicago but didn't try other cities. that's $800 three weeks from now. and $1600 on the top end. number one, the people have lost their home, they have lost everything, they don't have the money to get out. we should have, also, a resettlement program immediately, an evacuation resettlement program. put them in a safe place, especially the most vulnerable, children and those of us in the united states of america that want to bring our loved ones here, it is easier. they will return if they want to. but right now the schools won't open for months. the lelectricity isn't going to open for months. i traveled through the mainland of -- you should see dead cows, horses, and there's no water.
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do you know that -- just think about the health crisis. it's a tropical island, wolf. with water everywhere. and mosquitoes breeding everywhere. and the hospitals are overloaded as it is. maybe there are one-third of the hospitals operating and they operate not as full-time. so what i'm saying is, let's not congratulate ourselves and say, oh, 16 people died and thousands died, i'm telling you, hurricane maria gave us a test. she said, i'm taking 16, 16 too many. but you know what she also said to us? it's depending on what you're going to do how many more i take. and i say, let's not let her take one more. let's evacuate people, especially the elderly and the infirmed. this is the united states of america. the richest, most powerful nation in the world. let's act like it. >> let's not forget public schools in puerto rico, at least most of puerto rico, they will be closed for months to come.
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