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to every hero we helped, a grateful nation thanks you. >> good morning. welcome to your "new day." the las vegas sheriff now beliefs the mass murder had to have help at some point. why? >> given the level of meticulous planning and the arsenal he amass amassed. police believe the killer planned to escape and had a massive amount of explosives and ammunition in his cash. at this point, the only help he may have needed was the law that allowed him to gather close to three dozen deadly weapons in a year and the means to make them fire something like machine guns. as more motive, investigators now have the girlfriend and her initial denials are only fuelling more questions. >> so, chris, we're also seeing new video of the frantic moments that sent thousands of concert goers running for their lives. >> everybody go. [ gunshots?

. go. run, keep your head down. go. keep your heads down. go. >> gunshots ]. >> run. keep your head down. [ gunshots ] sirens ] >> hundreds of rounds raining down on the crowds of terrified people trapped in that outdoor venue. we're also learning the killer rented a condo across from a different music festival the week before this. was that concert his insitial target. let's talk to jean. >> reporter: authorities say they want to learn this man's intent. they say they have multiple leads all over the country and around the world. they are asking the country to have patience. [ gun fire ]

>> a hail of bullets sundsing concert goers running for their lives in this chilling new video. >> run. run. don't look. >> run. go. go. go. everybody go. [ gunshots ] >> rapid fire starting and stopping as the minutes go by. [ gunshots ] >> a traffic systems technician heard directing thousands of frantic people to safety. >> keep your head down run this way. >> as investigators work to find out what triggered this heinous attack, new details continue to emerge about the killer's elaborate plan. authorities now looking into what happened last october that led the killer to begin stockpiling 33 firearms within the last year. police also discovering 50 pounds of explosives and 1600 rounds of ammunition in the killer's car parked in the hotel's valet.

>> look at the weapon obtaining, different amounts of tannerite available. do you think this was all accomplished on his own if it would be hard for me to belief that. >> reporter: investigators also confirming the killer rented a room at this condo building across from a different and much larger music festival the weekend before he opened fire at the country music festival. >> investigators say new evidence suggests the killer planned to escape and had blocked off the stairway near his hotel room. authorities releasing a more detailed heim litime line. the suspect fired the first shot the at 10:05 and continued firing for 10 minutes. gunshots stopping at 10:15. during this time, an unarmed hotel security guard approached the room where the killer had set up cameras to see any

approaching threats, the killer firing more than 200 rounds into the hallway at the security guard, wounding him in the leg. a door riddled with bullet holes. 12 minutes after the shooting began, the first police officers arrived on the 32nd floor. finding the wounded guard and calling for backup before clearing the surrounding hotel rooms. >> we have a hallway contained. the room where the shots were fired. >> after the s.w.a.t. team arrived, the first breach of the hotel room was made at 11:20, an hour and 15 minutes after the first shots were fired. police found the killer, who they say took his own life, dead on the floor surrounded by his arsenal and bullet casings. [ sirens ] >> the shooter's girlfriend, marry lieu danley breaking her silence. her lawyer read a statement on herby half. >> he never said anything to me

or took any action that i was aware of that i under stood in any way to be a warning that something horrible like this was going to happen. >> law enforcement is saying the girlfriend is cooperating, she is not a special h. suspect. she is a not in custody. >> we're learning about that the killer was awealthy gambler. chris? >> thank you very much. let's bring in cnn law enforcement analyst james gagliano. let's sart what doesn't seem to make sense. first, the girlfriend. i had no idea. he never said anything. i knew nothing. never saw this coming. in your experience, those closest to someone who decides to do something this terrible, don't they almost always have to know something?

>> chris, on its face, it appears to defy cred dult, but i have seen cases over the years of a lone wolf that had a separate life. so is it inconserceivablinconce? no. you look at the massive arms he amassed and erratic nature. you think something, some kind of signal would have gone up chg but as i've said before, sometimes these subjects like this, after a horrific event like this, you go back and disassemble their life and you realize and understand they led two completely different lives. i don't think it's inconceivable at this point that maybe she didn't know anything about it. le. >> the sheriff saying i have to believe that he had help. why? he could have just done this with the assistance of the law. that's what allowed him to get the weapons and allowed him to buy the bump stock and create a

rain of fire. what do you see that suggests someone had to be helping him? >> well, with no national re registry for the purchase of rifles. the rules are different than pistols. the reason is the argumentle pistols are more concealable, more portable. people get them for self-defense. rifles basically for sporting or hunting. there's no database that would have been collected. he purchased the weapons across four different states from a number of different gun stores, no red flag went up. i was a little surprised with the information that came from the sheriff, because normally, if if you kind of juxtapose that with the fbi's response which is very guarded. the you release things in bits and pieces, as you under stand the public has a right to know and you certainly want to the public's assistance but the sheriff essentially speculating

didn't seem to confirm they had any hard facts or evidence thus far that there was an accomplice, but the sheriff's speculation was he believes, i think, at this juncture there had to be somebody that had to help the subject. >> often in these situations, rationality winds up becoming very subjective. those sheriff says we think he wanted to escape. we found the stuff in his car and house. maybe that's what the premises is for that feeling. but, when you look at how he sealed him sh sealed himself in that room and had the cameras, do you think he saw an exit or do you think this was another example of this bizarre thing where someone decides they want to end their own life by taking others' lives first? >> sure, chris. if it you look across the spectrum of mass casualty shootings going as far back in 1966, university of texas clock tower shooting, charles whitman.

in this situation, what was his egress route going to be? he was at 320 feet. it's inconceivable he would have had a portable reserve parachute. they don't open below 500 feet. i think the sheriff might have been referring to disguise, maybe he had a hotel employee uniform in place. maybe we could look toward the tanner right. it's got imodium nitrate in it. it's not combustible by heat, but it is by contact. maybe setting some of that off by diversion. pure speculation right now but the sheriff did confirm yes, there were plans in place for him to escape. which again, he's a 64-year-old man which goes outside the normal bracketing of the age of these shooters. and having an escape route. most of these we've seen it's either a suicide, which was this

case, or a suicide by cop. >> weal keep saying it. we have never seen anything like this. james, thank you for helping us understand this this morning. >> okay. chris. university medical center in las vegas took in more than 100 patien patients. yesterday, president trump and the first lady met with heros and survivors, let's bring in the director of the trauma unit. nice to see both of you this morning. thank for taking time to talk to us. doctor, let me start with you. tell us about the president's visit, what did he see there and what did he do. >> the president came too visit the wounded. he spent about 10 minutes with each of them and their families. he was very positive and upbeat. first lady was very sympathetic and empathetic, and he really raised the spirits of the

patients and the staff. >> how would you dough scribe that? i read from your ceo of the hospital that the president -- that he overheard a lot of laughing. coming from some patient's rooms. >> how would you describe his tone and bedside manner there? >> well, he engaged them in information ing conversations about music, connections between the family members and visits. very kind of ordinary matter of fact discussion, kind of dwelling upon the positives. just a like a regular guy talking to another guy. nurse, i know you crossed paths with the first lady, tell us about you are yo interaction. >> yes. it was of course a very thrilling event to meet both of them. i had a short conversation with

the first lady, it was mostly about i said i'm mother of three and grandmother of two and how much we admired her, and things like this happened, as a mother, the first thing you think of is your children, and she juggles how much being a wife, and mother and now the first lady, and she responded to me, you know, being a mother is still the most important job that we do. and so, it was just a very sweet personal conversation. >> that's really nice. thanks for sharing that with us. how was her interaction with patients? did you see her interacting with some of the survivors? >> yes. she was the same, very sweet and gracious and you could tell they're both very heart felt. they had ties here to las vegas. and that las vegas was very important to them.

they were very compassionate and they really did lift the spirits of not only the patients but the entire hospital. and the community. them being here was just an inspiration and we have so many heros of hope here that it was just an incredible visit and time for everyone. >> you're so right. we don't talk that much about the president in las vegas but of course he's had a hotel and casino there for a long time or at least a hotel. so, doctor, tell me hour patients are you still treating and how many of them are in critical condition this morning? >> well, we have less than ten in the icu right now. and we've got less than 20 in the -- on the floor services. we have been able to discharge significant number of patients yesterday, and have plans to discharge more today. >> look, that's the good news, obviously of the 489 people, who were injured, in this hideous

massac massacre, the numbers are just so stunning. 317 have been released. from the hospital. but, of course you are still treating the most grievously wounded, so the people in critical condition, what do you think? are we going to lose more people? >> it's hard to say. the people that are here in critical condition but stable. we're predicting a good outcome but there are critically injured patients in other hospitals here in town, those hospitals are doing a fantastic job. >> of course you're all doing a fantastic job, thank you so much for giving us all this information, we know how early it is and how hard you've been working. thank you both very much. >> you're welcome. >> let's get back to chris. new info. cnn has learn the russia bought

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important time for leadership. you have the russian investigation, you have what just happened in las vegas, a larger conversation about how we stop this from happening. on russian, the senate intel committee is saying there's still a lot of work to do on the issue of collusion between russia and the trump campaign. this comes as cnn has learned russian-linked ads bought on facebook targeted a wide range of states but included two key swing states, michigan and wisconsin. joining us is congressman adam schiff of california. always a pleasure. thank you for taking the opportunity. >> pleasure. >> so they targeted wisconsin and michigan, people who followed the election, eyes pop open. how did they know? did they need to have help to target places like that?

>> this is the critical question. i have to say at this point we still don't know the answer. is this something that merely sophisticated watchers of tv? either here or from the kremlin could figure out or did they need the data analytics of the campaign. that depends how detail the target was. between battle states which are widely known? i have to say a lot of what they did is very consistent with the intelligence community assessment in that they had two goals. they wanted to sow discord, and you saw ads in places like ferguson and baltimore. those were less designed to tip the election one way or the other. but you had others that seem to be targeted and i will say that a lot less attention is paid to the ads on twitter. the rt, the russian prop a gan da add ver sized on twitter almost the entire set of ads

i've seen, and i'm told it's a representative sample. these were all anti-clinton ads. on that platform there was a very clear choice. >> so two quick follow-ups. what do you do about it? how do you filter or monitor political ads in a way that doesn't chill free speech and allows a private entity to do that. this is twitter, facebook, social media. >> we're going to have to have a much stronger partnership where the intelligence committee identifies russian troll farms. they share that with the she had ya companies so they can identify those accounts and take them down. le but also, the social media companies are going to have to do a better job. devote more resources and personnel. take another look atle algorithm the. the. >> how they make their money? >> that's true. so some of this is it is going

to be against their economic interest but about good corporate citizens and we in congress are going to have to do our oversight. but one subset of this is going to be very tough. that's involving rt, this russia media arm. le are they a journalistic organization or propaganda for the kremlin? they're both. but at a minimum, we need disclosure, you need to know, i whether it's me buying an ad or the russians, they ought to have a disclosure on line. >> the money part is easy. the i klobuchar and warner have putportport a proposal. that's one decision, but the objective delg zigs, whether it's r tmt or something less obvious. you're going to have private

people. they knew about these accounts before you guys started banging on your door. they didn't come forward, why? i'm not implicating them in the efforts but their business interest is an inclusion. let me ask you another question. with more time, the basic criticism loom the large. you haven't found anything. there's no roof of collusion, nothing anybody can point to. this has taken too long. if it was so obvious, you should have known by now. >> well obviously there was a deep interest in the russians keeping the work hidden, you can't say there az no evidence of collusion. we've seen even in the public realm i think very graphic evidence that the trump campaign was willing to collude with the russians, we've seen e-mails in black and white from the top level of the trump campaign, indeed the president's own son when he is offered dirt on hillary clinton by the russians as what they described as the russian government's effort to help elect donald trump.

he says we love it, and by the way at the the best time is late summer. you can't see even in the public rel. let alone what we're looking at, that there's no evidence. is there proof beyond a reasonable doubt? no, we're not there yet. >> it's also not your purr view, that's muller. i guess you put that under the category of high crimes and misdemeanors which is not a legal standard. but you're right 6789 ultimately, it comes out to what you can prove, so we look forward to that because everybody wants this to yield something that can be discussed, accounted for and then acted upon. other topic. russia trying to destr our political despi political so site. this man this vregas trying to destroy us. there are many of this society

including many of the people who were victimized who do not agree. what is your position in terms of what could be done that would have stopped this crime? >> well, an interestingly, there's an overlap. in one that of the things the russians have chosen to exploit are our divisions over gt second amendment. we had this debate frankly in my office. we were planning to introduce a bill where we're going to go ahead and i tro duce this week that would essentially repeal the gun industry's immunity from liability. the gun industry is the only one that has a congressionally created immunity that says they're not liable in circumstances where every other product might be. >> is that fair? if they are negligent, because the counter argue. is they would be the only industry you're allowed to sue

whet the weapons didn't malfunction. there was no problem in terms of their product. you just don't like how it was used and when you want to sue the person po made it, that would be unique exposure. >> let's take alcohol, it's perfectly legal to sell alcohol. it is not legal to be negligent in who you sell it to and to turn a blind eye when kids come in to buy alcohol in your store. that is not permissible. >> that's the store. that's not jack daniels. >> that's right. jack daniels is selling to a store they know is basically selling to kids. we don't want to immunize the manufacturer when they know. >> if you can show that, you have to show that. >> you should have to with the gun industry too. but they dent get a pass to act negligently. we thought maybe we should hold off this week but if we held off every week we would never introduce gun legislation.

it toonts be any more taboo when we ask what to do about terrorism. there's a fallacy that if one particular bill won't stop one particular incident, well, then there's no point in having any gun legislation, because there's no cure-all. but the fact is that there are several things that would stop a lot of these attacks, or make them less lethal. background checks will prevent some, and have prevented many from getting guns that don't deserve to have them. getting rid of the bump stocks would prevent maybe not prevent the shooting? a held of a lot less lethal. >> certainly in this case. very often they say well a law wouldn't have fixed what happened here. that's sometimes true. but not here in terms of the lee thalt. you wouldn't have been able to generate that kind of speed otherwise, we look forward to

your proposition on how to help situations like what we just say, be less likely and following the russian investigation as well. >> okay, chris, the atf says the las vegas killer bought 33 guns in the last year alone. why didn't that raise any red flags? all of that is next h. made to u fall asleep faster and stay asleep longer. so you'll be ready for whatever tomorrow brings. because mom's love is unconditional. even at 6am. nature's bounty melatonin. we're all better off healthy. kevin, meet yourkeviner. melatonin. kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin trusted advice for life. kevin, how's your mom? life well planned.

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federal authorities say the las vegas killer bought 33 weapons in the last year alone. but the repeated gun purchases did not sound any alarm bells. cnn's jessica schneider takes a look at why. >> reporter: law enforcement sources say he amassed 33 guns in the past year. [ gunshots ] >> many of those 33 may have been stockpiled inside his hotel suite where he orchestrated a shooting massacre. the spray lasted n9 to 11

minutes. inside the swoouite -- 12 of th weapons were equipped with bump fire stocks. it allows the weapon to fire in rapid succession simulating fully automatic fire. a bump fire stock is legal, and easy to obtain. >> very easy. it can be purchased directly from the company or in different on line sales from a number of vendors. >> investigators have uncovered 47 firearms so far, 23 from inside his oh tell room and another 24 from the homes in in nevada. they say he has been accumulating his collection of weapons for the last years. out west, the possession of large quantities of firearms by hunters and collectors isn't uncommon. >> there are states in h the country where there's a lot of hunting that goes on, and outdoor activities.

there are also areas where you have a higher population of collectors, so, the purchase of that many firearms in an of itself would not necessarily be an indicator for us. >> he estimates is costs tens of thousands of dollars with some weapons costing $2,000 to $4,000. he purchased them in four separate states. frequenting shops in nevada. he bought several lang long guns a cabella's. two rivals rifles in one handgun in discount firearms and ammo. in mesquite he purchased a handgun and two rifles from guns and guitars within the past year and the owner of dixsy gun works sold him a shotgun. >> he passed all background checks in the store. he passed every red flag tla

could have topped up. but it's still there. still something that i'm still going what else could i have done better? >> there is no national registry of firearm ownership in the united states so even they he acquired 33 guns in h the span of one year, he presumably passed background checks, no red flags were ever raised enabling him to carry out his horrific attack. jessica snider, cnn washington. >> joining us now retire the atf special agent. so obviously we're getting this cash course in all of the things that feel like there's some sort of loophole in the law or that at least should be looked at. the idea that this guy could buy 33 guns in the space of one year, do you think thak that should have raised some red flag and ta there should be some system in place to alert someone to purchases like that?

>> so, there are a number of restrictions per federal law in terms of being able to maintain information about gun purchases, as was mentioned in just the previous piece here. the there is no federal or national registry of firearms purchases. the only thing that atf is able to maintain is information about a purchaser when that gun is recovered in a crime. in this particular case, none of the guns as far as i know, that were purchased by paddock were recovered in any kind of crimes. there were no other indicators from these purchases that had come to a tchl f's attention that would sort of pique our interest to be able to take a closer look. >> would it help the atf fight crime if there were a federal registry of gun purchases? >> well, certainly. if something like that existed, it would aid all of law enforcement to be able to look

at information about a purchaser, especially when there are multiple firearms that are being purchased and being recovered in crimes, but the way the law is right now, there is a very strict prohibition against doing that. >> let's talk about the bump stocks, when you and i first spoke on tuesday in the hours where people were still piecing together what had happened, that's when you first started basically explaining to so many of us who didn't know, that these bump stocks that can turn a semiautomatic rifle into an automatic weapon, that they are legal to buy and readily available and inexpensive. as a law enforcement officer for so many years, as you were, do you think those devices should be illegal? >> so even though this particular accessory is legal, i find, my own personal opinion, very, very few, if any, uses,

legitimate use force this type of accessory. it would never really be used during hunting. it's just the gun could be pretty inaccurate, difficult to maintain control of, because of the use of the accessory. it would not really be used for target practice. the only legitimate use, as has been discussed, is more of the thrill of being able to shoot a machine gun type of rifle. that's pretty much the only legitimate use i could see. as a law enforcement officer, as i mentioned, last couple of days, the last thing i would ever want to see is this kind of device attached to a long gun that a law enforcement officer has to go up against. it's pretty scary. >> that is what we saw. that is what allowed this gunman to mow down 58 people and injure close to 500 in the space of 10

minutes. the idea that he could do it in expensively and easily on line, and i have other bad news for people. the sales of the bump stock have spiked, obviously, since tuesday, not surprising, talking about it, then heightened interest in it, and so now, one of the manufacturers of it is sold out. as a law enforcement officer, again, you devoted your life, 26 years to this. the would you call on congress to ban this device? >> absolutely. congress has the ability and obviously the authority to make changes to the law that addresses these types of accessories. i'm not surprised to hear that sales have increased with this type of device, i even argue prior to a couple of days ago, the vast majority of america to include a number of law enforcement officers didn't even know this existed. congress not only has the ability but should go ahead and

make adjustments and amendments to the law related to machine guns. >> i'm trying to figure out the history. did the a tmttf approve the sal these? >> yes. it approved the use and sale of these items specifically because of the legal language within the law. the this particular accessory, because of the technical nature of the law does not fit within the definition of a machine gun. >> right. but i mean wasn't that -- how did the atf let that slip by? why would they approve the sale of something like this? >> again, alisyn, when atf is looking at these types of accessories are or any other type of items that fall under the national firearms act at the gun control act, we have to stick to the letter of the law. what's written in there, the

technical language, definition. that's our guiding principle. we go exactly according to the law. that's why i just mentioned it's really up to congress to provide the right common sense kind of language within these laws, and allow agencies such as atf to enforce those laws. >> look, so many people thought that after the tragedy in newtown at sandy hook where so many little kids were killed that there would be some common sense proposals, bau as you know that got mired in all sorts of congressional infightininfighti. do you think what we saw this week, the tragedy in las vegas, do you think again, something incremental, the bump stock to be banned, do you think there will be some sort of action is this congress? >> i certainly hope so. i think if you polled any law enforcement officer, regardless of political affiliation, they would all tell you that we need

to somewhere be birn within the middle ground. there are plenty of common sense actions that can be taken to not only have law enforcement feel safe doing their jobs but all of our citizens, we're not asking for major massive revisions to some of the laws but just some of the common sense stuff that you and i can both look at and come to an agreement and say something like this will definitely allow us to do our jobs better and make us safer. >> thanks. the we appreciate your expertise and experience. thanks so much. thank you. let's get to chris in washington. >> president trump says now is not the time to talk about gun control. when is it the time? to talk about it? ever? counsellor to the president, kellyanne conway is going to join us live next.

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president trump travelled to las vegas yesterday. he was in puerto rico just before. in vegas he was consoling the survivors and calling out the her r heroism. when asked about gun control, however, the president told

reporters, we're not going to talk about ta today. so when do we talk about it? should we talk about it at all? let's take this on and some other big topics of the day with kellyanne conway, counsellor to president trump. >> good morning. >> it was interesting to me, hearing the president reach out to people and recognize what they had done for one another. it does raise a question why don't we owe the victims of this the same consideration they showed one another, to take on something that's hard, that's even dangerous in the effort to stop this from happening to everybody else? talk about gun control, mental illness, what works and what doesn't. why not take this challenge on right now? >> christopher, what the president was saying yesterday was he was there for the people in need who were injured and recovering hospitals. for the families whose lives are shattered. he was incredibly candid, and

sympathetic yesterday. the man who has a great compassion and capacity for empathy that we see here every single day who many times throughout his life and career had been asked to help people, whether it's through an opportunity t opportunity to lend a hand, certainly a donation. that is what he was focussed on yesterday. now, you see there are republican senators who are talking about the second amendment. second amendment is a principle of ours just like the first amendment allows you and i to have this conversation. that should be preekt protected. we are hearing from so many legislatures and individuals, they never even heard of a bump stock before. so, i did note and it's in the "new york times" today it was president obama's atf. >> 2010. >> 2010. that decided not to regulate this device. that should be part of the conversation and part of the

facts that you put before. >> absolutely. said it last night at the town hall. good to have it out there now. >> i want to say something else. we did a if you go and do a search, you will see this conversation is not being had until tragedies like this strike by those trying to be the loudest voices, and hillary clinton is talking about her book and not this, and people are still searching for missing loved ones, and she tweeted about guns one time this year. bernie sanders, zero times. elizabeth warren, zero times. they tweeted about russia over 30 times, sanders and warren. and to approximate cnn's own coverage, your obsession with russia, i know the high-horse calvary loves to run in and talk

about it after the tragedies, but let's have a conversation. the more information we can get the better. i am tired, so i apologize in advance, a lot of this doesn't wash. >> what is that? >> all you need to know is it's legal. that's all you need to know about it. of course it was the obama administration. don't cheapen what happened in las vegas. >> don't go there to get the sound bite. >> i will go there and here's why. when a pan caman came out with 16-year-old daughter who lost his wife, and he wants to know the same -- >> i said let's have the conversation. >> the president said not now. it never happens. you make the point yourself, you say they don't talk about it

except when these happen. that's right. when it happens there's focus, and when you say we don't want to talk about it now -- >> i didn't say that. i didn't say that. the president was focused on the tragedy and victims. you are putting words in his mouth and mine, and i will not allow you to do that. you want him, after spending the day visiting bedsides, and others are not, you want him to turn around and talk about -- talk about, as he's boarding air force one, and yesterday he was focused on those in need. the day before he was in puerto rico, not that you give him fair and full coverage, and he has been spending the last month on the ground in louisiana, texas, puerto rico, las vegas now, helping those in need who suvered at the hand of natural

disasters, and he said in las vegas, a pure act of evil, and so those conversations will continue. you see a number of republican senators said they will take a look at this. all the while them saying they are for the second amendment, and many of them are gun owners -- >> the president's first instinct said we are going to have to talk about guns at some point and all of a sudden something happened and he said we are not going to talk about that right now. >> that's not fair, chris. >> if you don't seize on the urgency, it will never happen. if you care about the victims you will care about why they got killed. >> you know darn well he cares about those victims, and you shouldn't say otherwise and you know it. i will not allow you to do that. >> i never said otherwise. when you run away from a point and try to blame the question

inner. i never said he doesn't care. i hope he cares. we are all banking on him caring. puerto rico we wanted him to care and we wanted him to care about it when he was not talking about it, when he was talking about the nfl. we went down to show the need. it's not fake to show need. >> there you go. somebody hit a nerve. >> sure he does when he maligns an entire crisis -- >> let me know if your guest gets to speak. i don't hear a question -- >> i asked them and you don't answer them. >> let me say something about puerto rico. this president has directed an entire government and administration, and we had 15,000 people on the ground helping them, and the electricity is going to take a long time to be restored. people have gotten millions of meals and liters of water and we are doing what we can on an

island 1,100 miles away from land trying to help those in need. when people take a shot at the president and try to even question, try to put a piece of tissue paper between him and his commitment to those people, you should think twice about that. that's number one. and you are talking about the urgency to have a conversation. you and your network have felt an urgency about russia and phoney bologna collusion. >> nobody says it's phoney, by the way, republicans included. >> you know the graphics -- do you have any graphics on bump stocks? no, you don't. you have graphics on impeachment, and -- >> it's the first time we have seen it used in a mass murder.

what are you talking about? it's the first time a bump stock has been relevant in the discussion. >> is it the first time there's been a mass shooting in the country? >> of course not. every time we have one i ask you and people who are in power, is it time to discuss why it happens and they say not now, be respectful, as if not discussing -- >> that's not fair. >> that's not being respectful. that's what the victims' families want. >> why has hillary clinton and bernie sanders and elizabeth warren talked about russia and not -- >> is that your bar for success? do you want to be like hillary clinton and bernie sanders, is that your measurement -- >> i want the high horse calvary to show respect for these people. >> you want to be sensitive and respectful but don't want to be talking about how they died.

>> here's how they died. innocent people enjoying themselves at a concert on the greatest country on other and they were a victim of a madman -- >> he could have just been really evil. we don't know he was sick. we know legally he could amass an arsenal, and he never would have been able to do if he didn't use something that was legal and easy to get. >> made legal in 2010, the obama administration said they would not regulate -- >> you said it was a mistake in 2010. why don't you fix it now? >> i would like everybody to be involved in the conversation. that was seven years ago. >> nobody is blaming the president. >> yeah, you are. >> no, we are really not. it kind of matters -- >> you are blaming him today because you want your anti-trump

viewers to hear you blame him, and then you want your panels to bolster the point later. you are saying we are not having that conversation today meaning yesterday when he spent the day truly emotionally moved to be in the company of those injured and suffering in the hospitals. >> if you are moved by what happened to the victims, then you act on what happened to them. that's all i am saying. now is the time -- now is the time to say that you care. >> we all care. >> you show moral agency and then take action as a leader to try and make it better. >> he showed all of that yesterday. >> i am not saying what he showed or didn't show. do what they did at that concert ground. go against something that was dangerous and raefeach out to others because it puts you at

risk. some who survived and some who did not were leaders. >> the more information you learn about what happened in las vegas the better everybody is. we all want answers. we all feel frustrated and deeply saddened this week. we grieve with all of those that lost loved ones, and all those who are recovering and that's why the president and first lady and cabinet, the president has thrown himself shoulder to shoulder to those in need, truly moved. he paid his respect yesterday and just stood eye to eye with those that showed great acts of heroism. people standing for hours at blood banks. the president should unify, should unify, and he takes a moment to do that and you don't like the way he's doing it. he's not on your timeline or according to what you think should be done on a certain date. that's not acceptable. why can't you have the

conversation -- why can't you admit, too, that at cnn you and your colleagues have been talking about other things to the exsphrclusion to these issu. >> that's like saying you never talked about puerto rico's hurricane problems before the hurricane. >> i have a meeting in a minute. >> let me ask you very quickly. rex tillerson. the president just tweeted that the secretary of state never threatened to resign. this is fake news put out by nbc news. low news and reporting standings, no verification from me. let's put this in context. the secretary of state didn't deny that he called the president a moron. he said he doesn't want to deal with it, so did not refute the reporting out on that level, and then corker came out and said tillerson, mattis and kelly are the three m