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so all you pay for is data. see how much you can save. choose by the gig or unlimited. xfinity mobile. a new kind of network designed to save you money. call, visit, or go to xfinitymobile.com. >> welcome to inside politics. i'm john king. thanks for sharing your day with us. stephen paddock went on a buying spree buying three firearms a month and authorities still at a loss to explain why. >> usually there is a tell tale sign associated with these actions. reclusive, a plethora of things associated with the mind set.
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we have not found that yet. >> the horror in vegas brings a shift here in washington. key republicans say they are open to outlawing a device paddock used to convert semi automatic rifles into killing machines. >> fully automatic weapons have been banned for a long time. this allows you to turn a semi automatic into a fully automatic. >> trump said there is no cabinet chaos so why did the staff need to mediate tensions between the president and his secretary of state? >> i think secretary tillerson, secretary mattis and chief of staff kelly are those people that help separate our country from chaos. i support them very much. >> more on that in a moment, but we are standing by for an update
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from las vegas. that's the room right there. other ems and response equipment. they said an important update is moments away. chilling new details about the month leading up to the deadliest massacre leadi inin i history. terrified concert goers trying to escape in this video. >> run, don't walk! >> go! go! go! everybody go! >> police saying the gunman methodically stockpiled weapons and more. 50 pounds of explosives and 1600 rounds of ammunition found in his car in the hotel parking lot. that in addition dozens of firearms discovered at the gunman's various homes and properties. now exploring a sudden surge in his gun purchases.
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33 firearms total, mostly rifles, since october of last year. that averages three guns a month. that leads to the question, did something happen last october? another question, did he really do all this solo? >> you look at the weapon obtaining and the different amounts of tanarite available, do you think this was all accomplished on his own? he had to have help at some point. >> dan simon is tracking the investigation in las vegas. what's the latest? >> reporter: hey, john. you wonder, was there something going on in stephen paddock's life a year ago.
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what happened last october when shopping spree began. it's clear that a motive remains elusive. the sheriff talked about paddock's so-called secret life. what does that mean? we know he did not have a social media presence. he had few friends. that is making the investigation difficult in terms of trying to ascertain a motive. also the question, were other venues targeted? the sheriff mentioned that paddock rented a condo in another part of las vegas that overlooked another music festival and other published reports that he may have been scouting locations in chicago and boston. he heard the sheriff talk about whether or not he had help. saying that he must have had help given the meticulous planning involved. also the question of whether or not paddock planned to escape. the sheriff said there were some plans involved and he did not elaborate. meantime, let's talk about the girlfriend. she did speak to investigators
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yesterday. her attorney put out a statement saying she is fully cooperating, but the bottom line is she said she had no plans on committing to massive atrocity. stephen paddock sent a wire for $100,000 and she said she viewed that as something of a break up gift and thought he wanted to end the relationship and she should use that money to buy a house or for her family in the philippines. john? >> on the ground in vegas tracking the investigation. let's get perspective from las vegas. special agent who ran security for the venetian hotel and the coauthor of active shooter. you here now, 33 guns performed in the last year. perhaps a trigger last october or a decision. what does that you if you were trying to put together the pieces and the question of why?
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>> reporter: that's the biggest question is why somebody starts at that particular time and move forward with a plan to cause destruction and death of what he did. that's one of the biggest answers. we want closure as a community and as the victim's family. they want to know why he did what he did and what's the cause? >> when you hear the sheriff saying we keep looking for some sort of event. normally you find a note or a conversation with a friend or a neighbor or something in the early electronic forensics that gives you you the key to the question, what does it tell you that the chief said is still nowhere? >> that's unusual for us to take a look at. there has been like 56 different reasons why someone is an active shooter. revenge or a lost money or a love triangle or got in bad with a boss. each of those things are something to look at.
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some are loners. he didn't even turn around like 81% of the active shooters, people ahead of time they are going to do something. we haven't seen that at all. even on social media. go ahead, sir. >> i was going to say from your experience, your post fbi experience at the venetian and in las vegas, what is this going to do to security in that city? >> it's not only in this city, but a lot of cities. it took place in an open air festival. almost every city in the united states has an open air festival and you look at what high-rise whether it's a hotel, casino, a business building and insurance, a condo now as being a potential shooting zone. that's going to open up a new area. we need to take and change and what we need to do on the strip
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throughout law enforcement and each of the responders. that's why we have a monthly meeting. we will meet in about an hour. >> appreciate your insights on the ground in las vegas. not only in vegas, but recommendations for other areas. important questions. appreciate your time, sir. the las vegas shooter retro fitted a dozen guns with bump stucks. this led to a new push to ban this type of device. what is a bump stock? it's highlighted in a photo from the gunman's hotel room. it enables a semi automatic rifle to fire rapidly like a fully automatic weapon. it is a catched to the receiver replacing the standard stock that fits against the shooter's shoulder. it uses the recoil to bounce the rifle off the shoulder and bump the trigger back into the trigger finger. there by allowing them to fire repeatedly without releasing the trigger. they want to ban it all together
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and senior republicans told cnn said it looks like there are enough republicans that something might actually pass. politico and bloomberg and "new york times" and the "wall street journal" is here. that is a shift. i remember going down to virginia tech after the horrible shooting there when you had a republican president, george w. bush and the nra said they were open to some changes, but it never happened. there seemed to be a brief climate where something might happen. i haven't heard anything from the nra, but when you hear the number two republican in the senate and the speaker of the house saying let's take a look at this, do you believe it will happen? >> this is a different attitude in anything we have seen. potentially yes. republican sources and gun advocates aring e ing are telli watch for the bill to ban or make them harder to get. there is a lot of talk right
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now. you will see more in coming days about going to the executive branch and talking to atf about what they could do about this. i talked to very progun rights republicans in the house who are saying maybe these weren't allowed under law. we should reexamine when they were approved in 2010 under the obama administration and see if it even adheres to the current law. you are not supposed to be able to buy this semi automatic weapon and purchase something to make it automatic without going through more hurdles. we can see that discussed in the coming days. >> i'm skeptical. maybe that's because of having gone through so many of these things before and what happened after newtown and the sort of very, very temporary feeling of we have to do something. that vanished pretty quickly. i guess i would watch one and does the nra come out and do some of the other gun groups that some of them have said?
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they don't want to even entertain this. and two, at the end of the day, even if this did happen, it's such a small move forward, you wonder whether the other folks, the gun groups that are pro gun control may not use this as a vehicle to do more that could doom the whole thing. maybe it will happen. clearly there is a lot of talk that is different, but we are only days away. >> part of that question is what does the president of the united states say. when you have the speaker of the house and the senate republicans from texas and paul ryan from wisconsin where you have a sportsman culture and a pro gun rights culture. you take a look at this. is it time to talk about gun control? he was not rate to answer. >> do you think we have a gun violence problem some. >> we are not going to talk
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about that. >> kellyanne conway, the senior adviser. this is why some republicans think it might get done. not only can they do something in the wake of the shooting, but they can blame somebody else. listen. >> we are hearing from so many legislators and so many individuals in this country and you read it publicly too, chris. they never have heard of a bump stock before. i did note in the "new york times" as well that it was president obama's atf, the bureau of alcohol tobacco and firearms in 2010 that decided not to regulate this device. that should be part of the conversation and the facts that you put before your viewers. >> that's true. this is the atf letter from 2010 where they said the interpretation at the time said this was not a device that was outside the law because you had to go through other steps. does that make it easier to say we are fixing what we believe to be a misinterpretation or
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mistake by the obama administration. >> if they want to act, they have a reason to act. this is not a matter of what is the answer to the question when you ask them, are you in favor of this? it's hard to say as we have seen, people to say i support this device. especially days after this tragedy. the question is, is there the motivation to bring a bill to the floor of the house and the senate and move it forward? especially as we get further away from this issue as reporters stop asking the question day in and day out, we move on to something else, are they going to feel strongly enough? we can hear from republicans that yes, i will make it happen. we heard a lot of republicans say i'm open to this. perhaps the politically smart answer now. i have also seen this debate play out so many times. i'm skeptical. >> we shouldn't stop asking the questions. >> i agree, but history shows that people do.
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>> i recall during the obama administration and being schooled. why are you so obsessed with this issue? people move on. >> to my point, if you brought legislation to the floor and they don't do it legislativlegi will democrats say what about magazines or this rifle or this or that. that's the issue. >> that's part of it. i agree with republicans and gun control and i stick to believe it when you see it. it's easy after a shooting like this to say we will consider it and this is horrific. i was covering the gun control debate after newtown. a classroom of dead children prompted congress to do nothing. it's not about the policy issue. even if they do support it, but what are afraid of is this primal instinct of gun owners in their base say if you regulate background checks and bump
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stocks today, you will repeal the second amendment. they are miles ahead financially in activism. >> you see it and it's not just the nra, but groups who are more out there. they are going to knock on your door and take your guns. >> it's not for people who want to regulate guns in any greater ways. when the obama folks said they would take three months to look into the issue, it was lost at that point. the closer we get to elections, that's what's coming up in 2018. it's not the november e lenlect that are the concern. it's the primaries. >> senator o'connell is not the type of person who will dilly daley. if he is not saying it, i don't think it's going to happen. >> he gets more briefed and is he willing to step up and took a partnership with the nra. is he willing to say this is one
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thing we can agree on. the one thing is the faces of the people who died. here's most of them right here. 58 people killed that night. one of the victims'ses was here on cnn. >> he was such a hard worker and a fighter. everything she did inspired us. to be a better person. spending time with her. even if it was five minutes to three days or the whole month. every moment with her was a great moment. >> the stories that you hear are heart breaking. we are waiting for the press conference to begin in clark county in las vegas. they want to tell us about how they responded. we will bring you that when it happens. patrick woke up with back pain.
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. straight out to clark county, las vegas and the fire chief briefing us on efforts of
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first responders. >> people i truly love and respect. members of my staff and other fire departments are here because i will talk about the training and the preparation as a community to handle events of any magnitude and it's important for me that they are here because i want to show the unity in the fire service and also our friends and partners from metro. we love to make fun of each other and have good laughs, but these are wonderful friends to us and we will talk more about that in a minute. now, i will go over recap and information and take some questions at the end. i will at some point throw it into questions because we have to get it over with and people ask questions that don't need to be asked. with that said, i want to introduce two people to my right. fire captain steve thompson. they are the representative group for the fire department
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and firefighters. to my left here is deputy chief roy sessions, the operations chief. the gentlemen that takes care of everything and has a siren that rolls down the road to handle the business of our organization and our community. they fall under him as a responsibility. with that said, we know that on sunday night, something that we did not foresee at the magnitude of which it was took place in our valley at an outdoor venue. we had more than 520 people injured and 58 deceased. citizens as a result of that incident. more than 200 paretients transported to hospitals. some by fire crews and some by ems. the hospitals saw over 500 patients. it's amazing the amount of work that took place and the dedication and the doctors and nurses and the staffs at those facilities that did such a great job. we had a lot of challenges with
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this event. with this incident. the challenges we had were how complicated things are with where the venue was and how the people immediately and rightfully so began to extract themselves from the danger area. we had more than 32 reports of gunshot victims coming into our fire alarm office which created 32 separate incidents instead of a main one. that's common because they are getting calls and this person is shot here and there. it took time to say this is all under one incident. we had 32 numbers tied to this and we are trying to crush the data into a usable format. we also had reports of people who show up in hotels like caesar's palace where they were shot. by the time that information got relayed to responders, there was a shooter at this location. there was not a shooter, just someone who was shot that showed up at that location.
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via uber or running or whatever. for a certain amount of time, we knew we had what's going on and we are thinking are we having attacks at other locations? again, our police officers both metro and strike teams from henderson pd and north vegas pd. they came together as we trained and addressed every one of the other sites that turned out not to be shootings, but where victims ended up. we had people jump the fence and breakthrough the fences and get into the airport property. they were laying in between the runways and trying to take cover because the areas are carved out between the runways and the taxi ways and gunshots fired at the airport. there was another example of we had a lot on our hands. a lot we thought was escalating when it was contained but we didn't know. we had to vet every one with a police and fire response. this is also the first time that
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we deployed a rescue task force on a significant event. we will talk about it in a little bit, but it has been worked on for many, many years. at the event, there was a stand by crew of approximately 16 ems and paramedic personnel. they performed wonderfully under fire. literally under fire. taking care of patients that were right there in front of them in a very bad situation. my hats off to that stand by ems crew taking care of people there. there were numerous, numerous people from around the country that enacted with their training. they started treating patients and helping people extract and doing the things they were trained on even though they were off duty. some of the gentlemen in the front row today are members of my organization and our organization. our organization. they were there either as
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responders or concert goers that went into action that night. i have purposely monday morning issued a gag order to my organization. i did it again. my organization to not speak to the media. this was a very, very traumatic event. we have people that are hurt from this event psychologically. i did not want them to be addressed by the media and have to relive that immediately. we want them to go how many and see wives and girlfriends and parents and kids and we wanted them to decompress and control the opportunity for the media to interact with our people. that's why we are here today. after this event you can speak to members of our organization. as far as the organization goes, the fire department has been somewhat planning on a major event for an awful long time. along these lines. about 2010, we were the first
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organization in the country to place one of the fire captains into the fusion center. the multiagency counter terrorism fusion center. through that we built relationships and developed response plans and met the community on many different fronts and we were able to build out a program to handle the situation such as this. we were first to have a deputy chief foreseeing what was coming down the road. i promoted the deputy chief from the ranks and he does nothing with the fire anymore. this is law enforcement and executives and teams. how we integrate with that and get in and out of the properties and help you stay safe and we will talk more about that. we began training personnel.
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we built a policy that had never been built before. it took a long time. we developed plans and ran drills and find out what's wrong. we come back to the table and redesign it. it took us cycles to get to the format we want. it works in drills. this is shared among all police and law enforcement. these gem trained all the other police agencies in town. fbi and tribal police and all the agency are trained to the same level of what they call mac tack integration. i want to introduce the sergeant, the head of the division right now. they have been by our side through and through and another
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gentlemen i would be remiss and he was driving and retired now. his name is joel martin and he was sort of the big driving force at getting this going. once this was built, we ran drills at hotels and hospitals and in schools, malls and all kinds of things. that's why historically these things are taking place. we never planned on what happened the other night. however our training and our equipment and the professionalism took all that and from tropicana and russell and it was not in one building or address. it was spread over a massive area. it is utilized to manage events. it gives us the ability to have
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one person in charge or people tied together and the fire chief. to bring the right resources and to limit the confusion of what one entity is requesting and providing. it saved lives and we were standing tow to tow with the level of the police department to integrate the response was critical. we have performed reality-based training where we have been in situations with the police officers when they are engaging and setting targets with the weapons. some of them have been around gunfire during these events. we have gone beyond as far as i can tell with fire chiefs and they are very impressed that we even talk to the tops. we love our cops and they love
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us. that paid off in a way we hoped if we needed it, but we never wanted to have to use it. as far as the response that night, our response time, i can honestly say for our first arriving units was less than five seconds. the reason i say that is stationed about a mile south was coming back from a traffic accident call. they took a left on reno and turned on to giles and the captain is like that's gunfire. they were right there at the event. the captain said dispatch, do you have reports of gunfire and something going on because i'm hearing a lot of gunfire. they said no. oh, yes. now we do. it was that fast. the gates open and out poured dozens and dozens of patients. critically and some mortally wounded. our firsthands on patients was
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outside the fence on the east side. our people did a great job. that captain's name is ken o shaughnessy. that brings many, many different units. battalion police and more ambulances and most important thing was the mass casualty unit to see what we prepared to respond to effects like this in our community. we also had 32 other calls. 32 other calls. these calls were coming in and dispatch is centing units. medical alarm and other units to try to get to the other calls. now our responding resources because we are overtaxed are from 8, 10, 15 machines away. they are coming from the city of las vegas and further areas. we had to get our people down there. those units inbound on that
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medical alarm are going on the east side of that venue. they encountered all those patients. they were stocked. people dying and people were wounded and they got them in the ambulance. branches and the command system. i will expand on that. we form branches. a south branch and that person is put in charge. we had a south branch and a north branch and an east branch. that's how we manage the situation. that's how we try to calm the chaos when things are going south. we were able to get this grand money to put on every rolling piece of fire apparatus in
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southern nevada. southern nevada. in mesquite to north vegas to boulder to clark county. this fire apparatus has level four ballistic vests for our people. those are able to stop rifle rounds. level three ballistic helmets able to stop hand gun rounds. this fanny pack right here designed to treat upwards of 20 critically wounded patients. to help lungs reinflate after collapse. different airway maneuvers that is unique outside of the normal systems. sifting and sorting. we have trained on it and a lot of tournequets too. that's a big part. we trained on it and i have to harp on this. our training paid off.
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it was grander than we envisioned. we were able to handle it because of our training and relationships. the mac tack group. we talked about that. they have been with us side by side through this whole thing. they have been doing drills and in a nut shell, i won't get into how it is deployed, but we sat down with area firefighters and said we will integrate to get into people that control the airway to save lives. we learned the lessons from columbine and aurora and we as an industry have to move forward. led by two people who will be mad. captain kittelson. he is very humble. he doesn't want to be recognized. and captain evan hannah. those two gentlemen for the last four or five years drove this
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boat from the fire department and the police department that built this system with the committee that came together to vet everything out. they have done this and acquired the equipment through funding. we will be writing reports as a result of this incident. the work they have done and we have done as a whole is going to change the fire service and the way we integrate with partners on critical things. at this point in time i will take a few questions so our response is i will call the questions off. i do ask as you sit with the men that you don't warm swarm them. they came back today where we are as an organization and what
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we need to do to go forward to get better and stay healthy so we can have long worthwhile careers. don't overwhelm them. they came back knowing they will be at the throngs of the media and they want to talk to you and want your story. i want them to share their story. it's a healing part of the process. we had 108 firefighters and 14 chief officers that teamed up and did a tremendous amount of work to take care of this. these guys are ready to talk. with that i will take a few questions. >> [inaudible]. >> how much of that training came in handy? >> that training was very handy. very important. that's exactly what we did. we formed 16 rescue task forces and that's the rescue where we
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take four firefighters and three or four police officers and put them into a group and send them out. those task forces, we are headed for the venue. we had 60 calls inside of hotels where people were calling 911 saying i'm shot and injured. our dispatchers and i will talk about them in a minute, they decided through questioning determined they were not mortally or critically wounded. they sheltered in place. they go into the area not knowing if there was gunfire and anything going on while the people were shot. we sent them in to clear out the 60 calls. i did omit by mistake, the fire alarm office. they dispatch for clark county fire and las vegas fire and rescue and north las vegas fire. they did a tremendous job on what is normally a routine sunday night, they handled calls and if you have ever had an opportunity to sit on a call
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taker's panel and listen to another person in sheer terror for their life or loved one, those men and women and that office did a phenomenal job. they are heroes that handled the phone calls and they handled the business and got people to where they needed to be and handled the needs of resources and the requests of us as fire department and chief officers. i have to applaud them. they did a tremendous job. >> [inaudible]. . >> we have taught some of this across the countries. captains kittelson and hannah did this and i had the chance to teach this at the venues i have been to. i cannot begin to count the number of phone calls and texts and e-mails i received from counterparts in the country. canada, england that i interacted with over the years.
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>> others say good job and others say can you send that to me again because we need to look at it. many of them said you hit it out of the park and that was something nobody planned for and you handled it. >> can you explain in more detail how you mentioned some of the victims were going to various hospitals and reporting that there was a shooter at that hotel. how did that make the situation more difficult for you? after that, there was someone on scene and if they could describe the scene. >> people on scene will speak when you are done. as far as the reports of the other hotels, that complicates the matter. a lot of things are going on in the immediate area around the concert venue. when you get a 911 call saying we have shots fired at caesar's
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palace and as far away as spring mountain, is this a single event or are we under attack when we have multiple things going on. they did a wonderful job with the firefighters who did a wonderful job. >> is there an estimate with the time before the last patient that was transported to the hospital or what time? >> i don't have anent time. yes? >> can you talk about things or stories and the moment it was the right thing to do. >> things we learned in the moment. i can't really do that right now. i haven't had the chance to see what they improvised on. we train on a lot of things and
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have good equipment. any on scene i can't speak to. i haven't had that many conversations with the men and women that were there. >> the first crew driving down the street, what did they do at that point? >> treat patients and call for resources which is what we would expect them to do. >> can you tell us where you had to stay and when was the last move in the area where you had an active shooter? >> they were coming from north, east, south, and west. almost all of them encountered patients extracting in every direction. they began to set up in those areas. as far as getting into the venue, they just happened to be there. the units were treating patients immediately from tropicana to russell and behind hotels and
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behind the church. there was a lot of places where people ended up. if this was contained, we would have deployed. >> it was quickly. we had people in there and reno traffic is pretty jumbled. within minutes we had people at the gates and people were running out. they were trying to assist them in getting out. they were there quickly. >> did you have firefighters from all of clark county or las vegas -- [inaudible]. >> he's giving me a brief update. 160 overall as we looked at the books. i have the gentlemen from either entity here.
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operations from kessler and fire chief jill calhoun from north las vegas fire and a long time friend of mine from henderson fire. here specifically, every entity fire-wise was there. every one. >> can you talk about the nature of the imagery and what challenges that brought compared to others. >> we had a wide range of injuries from trample type to sprains and strains and people trying to get over the fences and walls. laceratio lacerations. we had the high power weapon rounds that struck people. >> it you talk about how that compares? was it in the moment or a triage unit? >> it's a matter of getting folks out as fast as we can.
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yes? >> can you say what it was like before? do you think it was inevitable. >> the command system and tying in with the police department. 10 years ago i can say and i believe i would have the agreement of my friends at metro. this would have been much worse on the command and control side. more people would have died because we were not able to engage as fast as we can with them. 10 years ago this would have been much worse. do we anticipate or plan for this? we have. should go is coming down the pipe. this is the world we live in unfortunately. we are in a venue of soft targets. we are an international tourist destination and we are a target. we know that. an example of that is placing a deputy chief over that responsible to integrate and make sure we are tied in and
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doing the right things with hotels and law enforcement partners. >> we had calls from standing in the middle of the street. you can see the alarms going off in the building. we said did you have a fire. we had nobody available to send. we would have to bring them in from a long way away. the fire alarm office and the dedtation, they were able to ping over to mandalay bay and it's as i result of police activity. the alarms did go off at the hotel. 32nd floor. they are in a group of three or four. >> the house fires and -- [inaudible]. . >> that's a very good question.
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what we call mrs. smith. that's the code name for the citizens. we still had calls. mrs. smith was having heart attacks and traffic accidents and still getting sick and minor events we responded to. our system was very, very busy that night. we had a move up system from the partners. henderson fire shuffled resources and north vegas filled in the gaps to minimize the response times when these happen. we had a tremendous amount of resources. >> [inaudible]. . >> absolute heroes. absolute heroes. they didn't have any equipment or protection. they were on site. boom. they knew they had to react and get tournequets and take belts and do things to save lives and
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do things to carry people out. absolute heroes. everything in the venue, citizens and the stand by personnel. >> did you use equipment? >> when i arrived every person was in ballistic gear. yes. >> [inaudible]. . >> we had none of our personnel took rounds and none of our personnel were hurt. actually we had one gentlemen suffer a knee injury. that was not related to the incident. that was related to gravity. he got tripped. yes, sir. >> [inaudible]. >> we started because we saw what happened at columbine and in aurora, colorado. we saw from the reports of how
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these people died in the lack of interaction at some points with the police departments and we knew we had to fix that. >> did you have the staff -- [inaudible]. on the 32nd floor? >> we did not. i will take two more questions. i will take no more questions. thank you for your attendance and i want to reiterate these gentlemen right here in the front row were either there enjoying the event and got thrown into this mess or those that responded from their stations or those of us that came from home, thank you. thank you very much. please, please be gentle on my people. they are not pr-trained specialists. please be gentle with them. thank you. the mci rig is out back if you
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top the go outside. we have it out there. we shifted it out to the front. i get my updates on the fly. it's out front. >> john king in washington. you have been listening to a remarkable briefing for the fire department. detailing the response effort which he said began seconds after gunfire opened up. it began seconds later because engine 11 was responding to a traffic accident returning from a traffic accident that happened on the apparatus. for all the sadness and horror, 58 kill and more than 500 injured, there were many heroes. fewer lives lost and some people will recover faster because of the heroic work. it was fascinating to listen. as it was playing, a conversation we had a bit earlier, a republican-led bill to ban the bump stocks used to modify a semi automatic rifle to make it function like an
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>> welcome back. the secretary of state, rex tillerson denying reports he is so frustrated with president trump he came close to calling it quits. he is not denying this nugget in the press reporting. that he called his boss, the president of the united states, a moron. >> i'm not going to deal with petty stuff like that. this is what i don't understand about washington. again, i'm not from this place. but the places i come from, we don't deal with that petty nonsense. it is intended to do nothing but
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divide people. i'm not going to be part of this effort to divide this administration. >> that just one of the remarkable moments and the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. >> i think secretary tillerson, secretary mattis and chief of staff kelly are those people that separate our country from chaos. i support them very much. he ends up not being supported in the way i hope a secretary of state would be supported and that's just from my vantage point. >> the white house is trying to spin he meant chaos around the world, but he meant by the president. from the tweets and management style and under cutting members of his cabinet and secretary tiller and he gets lost. that was a wow day yesterday.
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>> it's crazy. every day is a wow day in washington. i don't know if yesterday of the different, but can tillerson continue in this job. does he want to? he said he respects the president, but that is at odds with reporting that he said otherwise. if you put it in context, he doesn't have a secretary of health and human services. he doesn't have a secretary of homeland security. it's a merry go round at the white house. can he afford to lose someone this important? >> we are talking about this question of whether or not the secretary of state might leave before this incident. there was a term for that. people called it rexit. rex tillerson might exit. this is not the first time there has been tension and questions about how long he would stay in this job. washington seems to be forming a
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consensus it wouldn't be long. >> john kerry did not travel to las vegas and he stayed here. for now. but -- >> i think in my view the administration and the president deny there is this tension with tillerson is kind of like a kid with chocolate on his face denying he has been in the cookie jar. the president saying that rex is waving his necessary in trying to talk to north korea. how often does a president of the united states under cut his secretary of state? >> quite a long response to a yes or no question. it's not the first time senator corker said critical and candid things about this administration after it was reported the president leaked classified information. senator corker said that the white house was in the midst of a downward spiral and had to get
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it together. that's him channelling the views of republicans who are steeped in foreign policy. who they called the tillerson, mattis and kelly camp. they want to make the trade offs and foreign policy versus the political folks. >> the adults and -- i will leave it there. you can figure it out at home. wolf blitzer is in the chair after a quick break. have a great day. rodney and his new business. he teaches lessons to stanley...
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>> hello. i'm wolf blitzer. 10:00 a.m. in las vegas and 1:00 in washington. thanks very much for joining us. we begin with a new and troubling questions being raised by investigators in las vegas right now. did the gunman who murdered 58 people there sunday night act alone or did he have an accomplice. listen to

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