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then. >> yes. >> irma and now we're talking nate. what is going on this year? >> we went 12 years without a major hurricane making landfall in the u.s., the longest draut drought in history and we're make up for lost time. but believe it or not, nate is the ninth consecutive named storm to make it to hurricane strengthth. >> crazy. >> that's only happened once before in 1893 but they didn't have satellites back then so how did they know they were all hurricanes. but if we have hurricane force winds in mississippi and alabama, it's only the second time in history that all of the gulf coastal states this year have had hurricane force winds. we've had some hurricane gusts in parts of louisiana, venice is the name of the town there and now we're going to have some hurricane winds as we have landfall in about an hour, maybe an hour and a half. doesn't look impressive. the system's been moving so fast, hurricanes do not like to move this fast because they cannot generate any intensity.
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they like to move slow over the warm water. so that's been a good thing. and notice how we're losing the colors here, dry air has been trying to infiltrate the system and it's been doing that almost all day long, back up there's still some color on this imagery that tells us it still has a little bit of strength. new orleans was saved, these are the computer models, the sut in red, but both of them the last couple of days were right over new orleans, the center of the storm moved off to the east sparing them. the only threat that they have is really a north wind on lake upona train. but the system picks up in speed and that's good and bad because we're going to find several states dealing with strong winds and that's going to mean more than significant flight delays in the days ahead. notice the tornado watch. we've seen several warnings, the sirens have been going off. we've had waterspouts making its way on shore. but we're looking at a possibility of reign rainfall in an hour, hour and a half around
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biloxi. in fact, most likely that will be the case. it's been hard to find an eye on satellite imagery, radar has been tough. but the last couple hours you get a good indication of what we're looking at here. our landfall not too far in the distant future and with that tornado warnings. you see them near purple. just to the west of the pensacola, mobile bay, most likely the sirens are going off. this is the area of surge. all of the wind threat is from the core east ward and that's where we'll have the search. these are high tide times and they are not going to go well with this timing here because notice in biloxi 12:22 a.m., that's not going to be good news when landfall moves in because it's going to be significantly higher. mobile, almost 1:00 in the morning. pensacola 12:19. so it would be nicer if the storm would move in first and then you'd have high tide but things don't always work out. the good news we've lost some of the watches in the western part of louisiana, the warning in
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red, and a tropical storm watch has been canceled in downtown atlanta. when irma moved through, over a million and a half people lost power in the state of georgia alone. here's an area of what we're watching. the brighter colors the better chance of getting tropical storm force winds and it extends upward north of birmingham. by this time tomorrow, senate going to be in kentucky so it's really picking newspaper speed. as we look at the track, this is something everyone should know here. you take the speed of the core of the winds, all right, sustained winds, and then you couple that with its forward movement. so there could still be some snapped branches, downed power lines, debris flowing around in all the neighborhoods along this track and to the east. and then by the time this moves out into the northeast we're going to have significant flight delays that are going to be hanging around parts of all day monday and maybe into monday night. so the good news is it's not a category two, it's breaking down, the core energy is the proc lem, it's a small area
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concern but really it's going to be about the storm surge threat and we'll dig into that deeper i think in the thext 30 minutes. >> all right. so it's the next hour, hour and a half. >> yes. >> we're talking landfall in those various locations and the storm surge that you will hone in on in just a little bit. tom, thank you so much for now. i'm going to come back to you. but let's go to biloxi to martin savage. he's in biloxi, mississippi, near where that second landfall that tom was just talking about will be happening soon. let's just begin with conditions where you are right now. how's it looking? >> reporter: the city just tweeted out that they anticipate the worst conditions are going to start up right about now. so just as tom has said, they are seeing the natives knocking on the door here. their real concern, they don't think the winds are going to get above hurricane strength. they're not sure. certainly some of the gusts might, but for the most part they think they'll be okay with wind. they're worried about the water. because the water begins just where those lights end. highway 90 is right in between them. they do believe with that high
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tide coming and the storm surge here which they're thinking 7 to 11 feet, it likely will cover that roadway. there's a curfew that's in effect primarily because of that reason, runs from 7:00 p to 9 clock in the morning. for the most part it looks like people are adhering to it. about the only traffic you see are the emergency first responders, police still checking on the roadways here to make sure they're clear. fire trucks have gone by, even some ambulances but it appears they're on patrol and no one's out on an emergency run. they did put in a mandatory evacuation for harrisson county beach and anything south of the sea wall that pretty much just affects the direct waterfront if the but 12 casino and hotels here in bah lux she to close down because they didn't want crowds of people gambling and having a good time when you've got nate coming ashore. it was out of a real strong sense of concern, brooke. >> yes. >> and right now they're feeling like they're doing okay. >> good, good, good. out of abundance of caution as
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we have seen these last couple of hurricanes. martin, thank you so much. as you mentioned that dur kerr few in place until 9 clock a.m. meantime, in alabama nearly 7,000 people are already without power at this moment. we're in mobile, i hear and see that rain coming down. is it getting worse for where you are at? >> reporter: this is by far the strongest rain band we've seen throughout the night here in the city of mobile. we're just on the northern edge of the bay. and as you see behind me, everything going on your screen from right to left is south to north and we have seen the bay water here really getting pushed up. that kind of speaks to that storm surge concern. and as the high tide approaches here about 1:00. morning central time, that storm surge is of great concern. you can definitely see even though this is a small and not terribly powerful storm by hurricane standards, but it is
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bringing a great deal of pressure, that water pressure moving, getting pushed north. so we'll continue to monitor that. that's why those concerns and those warnings have gone out, especially to those low-lying areas. people who live near creeks, tributaries, buy use, that could be a concern. but the winds haven't been terribly strong throughout the night, but this is definitely one of the strongest rain fwhands we've seen and it's been going on for probably the last ten minutes or so. sometimes they'll die off and then pick back up again. but this is really the most we've seen. you know, if this is the way it remains for the next couple of hours, that in many ways will be good news nor part of alabama. there's been a great deal -- i don't know whether to characterize it as complacency or relaxed attitude about the storm. but we haven't seen many people throughout the day that were flocking to board up their homes or businesses and windows and that sort of thing. many people expecting that kind of doing the bare minimum would
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be enough to withstand the worst of the storm and perhaps they're going to be right at the end of the day. but the real concern is as this storm makes landfall here through the overnight hours is really that urge to tell people to stay inside, really no reason to be out and about on the streets and those severe storm warnings, tornado twharngs have popped up throughout the night here in southern alabama is also a concern not just on the coastal areas lows to where we are, but also further inland as the storm moves inland. and of course all of this taking place in the middle of the night, that adds an extra layer of concern as, you know, the visibility is obviously dark and incredibly hard to make out exactly if a tornado were to dip down out of the sky, very hard to see. that adds another layer of concern and makes those situations, you know, much more dangerous and concerning. especially for first responders here. so you can see how just here in the last ten seconds or so how the rain has come down a little bit, but we expect these bands continue to tense phi here over the next couple of hours.
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>> you have really been in it. of course this hurricane season, go get dry. we'll talk to you in just a little bit there in mobile. thank you very much. let's bounce back to biloxi. i've got mike toois back with us. he's a storm chaser. mike, we're still about an hour ahead of time for those storm surges. i can see them over your shoulder. is ittic pg up where you are? >> reporter: oh yes. if you saw that last wave that just came in, the surge is starting to come up pretty fast in biloxi. this parking lot is fully engulfed now and the next wave that comes in is stronger than the one before. it's starting to make its presence felt for sure. >> i don't know how many higher it's going to get, maybe a couple feet, but it's coming up right now in biloxi. >> how intense is the wind? >> reporter: i'd say it's maybe 50 miles per hour gusts, but the big story here is going to be the storm surge for sure.
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>> how high are you guessing? >> reporter: maybe i 6 to 7 feet here in biloxi area, maybe a little bit lower. >> let me ask you -- >> reporter: it's hard to say. >> no, it's hard to say for sure that's what we were looking at some of the models earlier they were saying if not a little bit higher. this your job, right, you chase storms. i was talking to our meteorologist tom sator about what happened this year between harvey and irma, maria, now nate to a lesser extent. what's going on? >> reporter: that's the same question i have. this has been a crazy year, it kind of reminds me of 2004 and 2005 where once the hurricanes got going they just didn't stop they kept coming one after the other. so the ingredients are in place for hurricanes this season and we were there to cover all all of them to share with everyone. unfortunately it was a sad story in the islands and the florida keys and those areas but we will bounce back and get over it. i got some rain on my lens. there we go. it's up to my ankles now and i'm going to retreat back in the
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parking garage where it's a little safer. >> please do. mike, we'll check in. thank you so much in biloxi. we've gout covered tonight with special hurricane nate coverage but we're also covering other stories including las vegas cryptic numbers deciphered. it what it actually means, can it help determine the motive in this mass murder? you're watching cnn. cable. t some peope t what it actually means, can it help determine the motive in this mass murder? you're watching cnn. what it ac help determine the motive in this mass murder? you're watching cnn. what it act help determine the motive in this mass murder? you're watching cnn. getting a papercut. and having their arm trapped in a vending machine. but for everyone else, there's directv. for #1 rated customer satisfaction over cable switch to directv. call 1-800-directv. i am totally blind.
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stephanie elam is live for us in las vegas tonight. what are the numbers? >> reporter: yes, the numbers we are now learning, brooke, they believe are calculations. they believe what the shooter was doing was calculating the trajectory and distance from shooting from his 32nd floor window over to the concert venue. this is something that was first reported by cds that we're learning. the other thing that we've learned, too, is that they located 50 pounds of tannerite inside of his car as well as 1600 rounds of ammunition. they do not know, investigators do not know why he had that. we do know that tannerite when fired upon does explode so there are some concerns that perhaps he was hoping for another mass casualty event that there are also signs that they believed he planned on surviving the attack that he was planning from the 32nd floor and he planned on making it out of there. but still unclear as to why he would have had all of that in
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his car, brooke. >> so we have the piece on the note now and also we've learned this security guard stopped the attack not realizing it at the time but stopped the attack when he went up to the floor, that 32nd floor. and you now know why that guard was on the 32nd floor and that was a total cowinincidence. >> reporter: and imagine what what would have happened if that didn't happen. but the reason why this security guard was up there on the 32nd floor is because they had gotten an alarm about an open door, not in the shooter's suite, but several doors down. so this security guard from mandalay bay, he was going up to investigate that probably knock on the door, tell the person, hey, your zoor open and that would be it had the however, what happened is remember the shooter had cameras outside in the hall. what investigators believe happened is that he saw campos coming up the hall, thought it
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was because of him and then began firing through the door. when that happened, he shot campos in the leg, but campos was able to radio down to mandalay bay security to let them know where he was, what he heard and because of that first responders, police officers were able to get up and pinpoint where the shooter was within mandalay bay. think about how massi that sbilgd behind me right there. it would have taken longer for that to happen and imagine just how many more people may have lost their lives or been injured than already were hurt and already did lose their lives if it hadn't been for the fact that campos had gone up on that 32nd floor, brooke. >> thank goodness, thank goodness for some random alarm going off. last quick question. are they anywhere closer to answering the question why? >> reporter: no. and that is what's frustrating investigators completely. they believe that normally within a couple days when something like this happens they're able to go through
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someone's social media profile, look through their computers and figure out what this was all about. they still do not have a motive or know why he had all this tannerite in his car and that is what's frustrating them. they're asking people to speak up. if you have any sort of interaction with this man to come forward and talk to authorities about it. even if you think it's no big deal, they want your help because they want to decide as they're putting together the timeline of this man's life whether or not it's something that could help them figure out what could have caused him to be -- do something just so horrific. >> stephanie elam, thank you. let me bring in someone now who knows exactly how these investigations work. tom 2010 tes is a senior law enforcement analyst and assistant director of the fbi. first things first, on this note in the room with the calculations of the distance and the trajectory from the 32nd floor from the shooter, what does that tell? you does it tell you he knew what he was doing?
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>> hi, brooke. it tells you that he was calculating what he thought would make him a more effective shooter during the time of the attack. it just speaks to how meticulous he was and how he was trying to think of every possibility in terms of his attack being successful. >> what about the detail, though, that there was this random alarm that was going off a couple doors down and he hid those cameras in the hallways and that its with this alarm going off that was what was ultimately stopped him from who knows what his full plan was? >> well, that's true. we don't know and, you know, obviously he could have kept shooting a lot longer, you know, if guards weren't coming down the hallway and the police later showing up. so we don't know how long he would have continued that rampage before he took his own life. >> back to the note. you know, how do you learn, i mean you think of -- he wasn't this but you think of a professionally trained sniper and the hours spent learning
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trajectory and wind. how would he have even learned any of this online? someone physically teaching him? >> brooke, there are so many books out there of how to be a good sniper, there are so many videos how do it. there's so much information on the internet how do it. you could go to the range and speak to people that are trained shooters, trained snipers at the range, make friends with them and get advice from them of where to look for, you know, the type of facts, the te of information would you look for in order to calculate all that. so, you know, he's -- he's not stupid. he's an intelligent person. demented and depraved as he may have been, but he was not dumb. and he would have been able to learn this or be taught it without a whole lot of problem. >> let's put motive aside for a second. what is your biggest question here? >> my question would be, you know, someone else must know him or he must have had some other
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contact. i think that that was the one thing that i was hoping would come from the interviews with his girlfriend. i didn't expect her to be a participant and coconspirator with this and she did return to the u.s. voluntarily. but i thought she could say he often talked to a certain person or they would meet for coffee one or two times a week, or just someone that we have not heard of. and i think at this point the likelihood that somebody's going to come in on their own to say they knew him or met him or talked to him, i think those chances are slim to none because who's going to want to come in and have their name forever associated with him? >> no one. >> on the internet. so they're going to have to be told about somebody and go out and get them and look for them and try contact them because i don't see anybody wanting their name associated with this guy ever. >> one more for you, and that is, you know, they have gone through -- you know, these
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investigators have gone through thousands of leads and still they have nothing. you heard stephanie say nothing on motive. they've gone to his house, electronic devices, they've scoured that hotel room. how do they figure this out? >> well they may not. we have to accept the fact that from the beginning i thought when he was determined not to have a digital footprint, social media footprint i thought if the guy's a loner in real life, he's not on the internet, he's not communicating with a lot of people, he's more or less estranged from other family members, we may not ever know what's inside -- what was inside his head when he decided to do this. obviously he decided a long time ago, it took a long time to acquire all of the weaponry and bullets and decide where he was going to do the shooting from and all of that. we just may never know. and we need to accept the fact that that may be the truth, down
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the line we won't know. >> i know that's just tough to accept. not that the explanation will make anyone feel better but it's just unfathomable. thank you for your insight there. >> you're welcome. >> we are in tonight for special coverage of the hurricane, hurricane nate now moving up through the gulf coast packing heavy winds and rains, tornado watches across three states. we're tracking it for you. you're watching cnn. t-mobile's unlimited now includes netflix on us.
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night. i'm brooke baldwin. we're talking about hurricane nate miles away from making its second landfall in the united states. let's go to tom sator in the cnn weather center whereas you have been hammering home, the storm surge concern number one. >> i think so without a doubt. it's not so much the winds although it's moving at 20 miles per hour and sustained winds are at 85, you couple them together and there will be some power outages. but here's the radar image. and that sets stage here for what's going to happen now. you can now see the eye, all right. this is a larger eye, it's about 35 miles in diameter. it's those tighter eyes that make stronger storms. but all of the precipitation is in the north and eastern quadrant here, there's almost nothing underneath. at 6:55 it made its first landfall, extreme section of plaquer man's paris. that was landfall number one and we're only 20 miles away from a second landfall. again, if it moves at 20 miles per hour and it's 20 miles away we're talking about an hour. this is lake ponta train and the
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winds are coming in from the north and we're getting a three-foot storm surge in 23450u new orleans. first, if you look at the area of new orleans, this is a live picture of bourbon street on saturday night. nothing. if we go on and talk about the problem with our surge, you've got look at the circulation and these bands that are moving in now. and therefore, the threat for tornadoes, obviously, is with us. but the winds in new orleans, anything west of that core is barely a gail force. so it's all from the center to the east and it extends all the way to the panhandle in florida. as we talk about the surge and we're talk about the possibility in biloxi of 11 to 12 feet, that's significant. so let's talk about the surge and really what this could look like because we've talked about this ad nauseam in the past storms. all the way to the alabama border when you start to get these bands moving in, the surge of moisture, again, the storm surge is the height of water
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above dry ground. we're already getting some reports even towards pascagoula. this is significant. 23 we break it down further and show you the extent and real fli detail of where the problems are going to be. first plaquerman's parish, the north korean coast all right four-foot storm surge. let's slide to the north and east a little by the. here bay st. louis. anything that's orange is 6 to 9 feet if the anything in red is greater than 9. so the winds, of course, if the core is over here and you're getting winds coming up from the south, it's shoving that water into the bay st. louis area. hard to see it i think on your screen at home, but all this is red to gulfport, we slide a little bit more to the east. there's some of these barrier islands obviously are trying to help the coastline but you get into around biloxi it's not just of the immediate shoreline area. this gets shoved up for some time. this is a fast-moving storm so the surge will be quick to flood and then once the system moves out it will slowly drain.
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but pass ga gula well inland and that's one to even six feet put slide a little bit more toward the east and you're in mobile bay and even though the downtown area will have 1 to 3, there will be some areas that have 6. again, that's a concern. i think that's the greatest element as you rightly point out, brook, besides the storm surge. shur, there will be power outages because it's a fast-moving storm, it's not dropping much in the waive rainfall which is good news. but there will be problems by this time tomorrow. it's going to be in condition and flight issues and delaze lay issue as we head into the wok workweek. >> we'll be back with you moment tearily. speaking of louisiana, speaking on the phone lieutenant of governor of louisiana, he is definitely no stranger to storm prep and response. during his term as president of louisiana plaque man's pair, i risch, lieutenant-governor stou much for hopping on the phone with me.
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>> i can still through all still of course our katrina coverage. let me start with lake pontchartrain. what are your concerns there? >> well, think we dodged a bullet. i think the worst of it is-through through. we're still seeing winds in the outlying areas flooding and water coming over the sea wall in lake pontchartrain, but i think we got the dry side of the storm. i was down in south plaquerman's parish earlier where the storm tipped the edge of plaquerman's parish and all the levies held up. we saw no flooding or levy overtopping. i really believed we dodged a bullet on this one and hopefully by morning time this thing will be ashore and we'll have dodged a bullet. >> my fingers are crossed with you, mr. lieutenant-governor on that one for sure. what's your message to people in this part of louisiana because i think it's still important to emphasize for folks, you know, it's not over and to take caution. >> absolutely. you know, the mayor lifted the
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curfew in the french quarter, are going back in the streets of new orleans, but all the curfews from the outlying areas, we don't want people going back tonight. there are some flooded areas in those coastal areas. as the sun comes up tomorrow hopefully things will be back to normal and people can go back home. but we still got a tfew things o be concerned tonight as the storm goes ashore. >> let me go back to the southern part of plaquerman's parish and how it was clipped by the storm earlier. what did you see? >> well, we saw some of the boat harbors had water in them. what we were concerned about is there's over a billion dollars in levies being built in plaquerman's, federal leif vis being built by the government under construction. many of those leif vis do not have grass on them. so any kind of storm surge up against that raw dirt could wash away those leif vis. this storm moving quickly we didn't see that happen. and all those levies have made it through the storm without
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major damage. and that's a big win for the people of plaquerman's parish in louisiana. >> last quick one, i was talk together mayor of about biloxi earlier and he was saying to me how grateful he was in terms of lessons learned and improvements and infrastructure since hurricane katrina. this is sort of this, you know, test for you all and how it appears so far so good. >> absolutely. and i tell you, even with these last storms working closely well, the novls texas and florida, all the coastal states work so well together lending assets to each other. unfortunately we're getting better at this after every storm. >> lieutenant-governor billy none guesser it is nice to hear your voice guns again. thank you so much for calling in to cnn. >> thank you. bye-bye. >> thank you. now to the president of the united states following a tweet storm today with a talk storm, so to speak. did he finally offer clarity on some of the comments he made on north korea? let's talk about that next. jimmy's gotten used to his whole room smelling like sweaty odors.
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welcome back. president trump is back in washington tonight after a quick trip to a republican fundraiser in greens burrow, north carolina, earlier today. but before he left the nation's capital, the president followed a cryptic tweet with north korea with cryptic talk. he also answered questions about his relationship with rex tillerson. here is caitlin collins. >> reporter: well, the president continues to fuel a series of questions and raise a lot of eyebrows after he's made a string of cryptic remarks lately. after he lamented on twitter that he thought negotiations with north korea had failed for the last 25 years, he said that he believed there's only one option left there. the catch, he deputy tell us wh -- didn't tell us what that one option is. he was asked about this on the south lawn of the white house as he depart ford a fund raiser in
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north carolina. but his appearance just left reporters guessing. >> it's tell us about the calm before the storm. >> nothing to clair zblie how about this, what's the one thing with north korea? >> well you'll figure that out pretty zbloon when reached for comment, press secretary saya sanders did not add to the president's remark but did maintain for right now all options remain on the table regarding north korea. now, the president was also asked about another ominous remark he made at the white house this week he's met with senior military leaders which he said could be the calm before the storm. the president did not clarify which storm he was talking about and when he was asked to do so at the white house, he said he had nothing to clarify. he did comment on the relationship between him and the secretary of state rex tillerson after tensions were at an all-time high between the two men this week after it was reported that tillerson had referred to the president as a moron over the summer. the president told reporters he has a good relationship with the
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secretary of state but acknowledge they disagree on a few things and he wishes he would be tougher in some areas. we've seen one of those disagreements play out in the public eye lately after tillerson told reporters that he had an open line of the communication to north korea. the president swiftly got on twitter and said that tillerson should stop wasting his time trying to negotiate with them. but for right now, at least publicly the president is maintaining that things between him and the secretary of state are all good. back to you. >> caitlin, thank you in greensboro. with me now cnn analyst david rowe. he's also online with the new yorker. nice to see you, sir. to the point about the president's cryptic tweets and et cetera specially where he's talking about negotiations haven't worked for years and years, his last line sorry but only one thing will work and we don't know what the one thing is, that it's so nebulous, what's that signal to north korea? >> i think he's trying to take a tough guy approach. we're going to use military force against you.
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>> that's the inference? >> yes. i don't think it's going to work. he's been saying that over and over for mops. this is the most outspoken he's been. it hasn't slowed down the north korean tests at all. and the danger is if he doesn't follow up these threats with military force, it means nothing. it's like bah iraqi obama's famous red line be in syria. >> so a couple weeks ago when he put some other tweet out there, pyongyang took that as a declaration of war. how is if you're saying we're inferring that it's threatening military, whether it's empty or not we don't know, how is kim jong-un receiving this? >> so he has his own domestic politics? all politics is local. he's authoritarian leader. he has to stand up to trumpet can't show weakness he loses control with his own generals. that's what dangerous about this rhetoric because they have to keep upping one another with what they say. it's very unusual to have a president doing this. it was also this off hand comment where he complained
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about not getting military options fast enough from the american military this is -- >> telegraphing. >> act, he criticizing for telegraphing stuff and somehow not being aggressive enough. tillerson isn't tough enough wasting his time with negotiations. it's very unusual to have the president himself doog this much saber rattling. it can be a defense secretary, you can have a good cop bad cop thing going. >> i don't think it's going to work because there isn't a sort of quick military option in north korea. it's tens of thousands of south korean lives, people have talked about it for weeks. >> so what's this about? >> i think it's -- maybe it's a genuine belief by the president and some people on his team that the united states needed to be tougher, if it talks tougher our adversaries will back down and that barack obama wasn't tough enough. >> i don't think that's going to work. it's a very, very dangerous game to play. >> also just his relationship with secretary of state and caitlin alluded to, you know, this back and forth for months and the reports that tillerson
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called him a moron over the summer at the pentagon and then we saw tillerson this past week sort of backed into a corner heaping praise on the president, the president essentially saying, hey, it's all good, our relationship. do you think it is? >> i think it's better now. i think that tillerson's statement that unusual public statement was a way to win over trump's loyalty. but again he's undermining his lutz. there was the attacks on jeff sessions earlier. he's saying this about tillerson. and it creates confusion, i think, internationally. and it's part of this problem of, you know, he's such an unpredictable president, he seems to -- on the iran deal he wants to decertify the iran deal. that's against the advice of secretary of state and secretary of defense. are we going to confront iran also? and lastly politically he ran has a noninterventionalist. he said want going to drag noose all these conflicts. we decertify the iran deal we've got a nuclear crisis with iran and north korea at the same
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time, again, i'm -- maybe he's right. maybe north korea will back down. maybe iran will back down, but this is very high stakes, it's very dangerous. >> david rowe, thank you very much. >> it happens again, white nationalists gathering in charlottesville for a brief moment tonight. i am totally blind. and non-24 can throw my days and nights out of sync, keeping me from the things i love to do. talk to your doctor, and call 844-214-2424.
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a group of white nationals returned to charlottesville, virginia tonight carrying tiki torches, marching to that robert e. lee statue. of course who could forget just a couple of months ago this was where that white nationals rally
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in august, and that rally turned violent after a group of protesters ran into a crowd in a car. that one young woman, heather heyer, was killed. the mayor with another tweet. meantime we're looking at all our legal options, stay tuned. the video we showed you a second of ago of the rally taken by an anchor for our affiliate there in charlottesville. thank you for jumping on the phone with me tonight. let's start at the beginning here. who are these people, and how long were they chanting with their torches? >> yeah, good evening, brooke. this is a very small group compared to the other three of the rallies we've seen here these past few months. this group led again by richard
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spencer, whoo the self-proclaimed alt right leader and founder. there were about three dozen of these all dressed their uniforms, white polo shirts and khaki pants. they were marching not too far from their neighborhood. they were only there about for 15 minutes. they did that typical chanting, ye will not replace us, very typical words. and they left and said we will be back. this is a university bicentennial event, so tens of thousands of people here in town and they see this, this is what he wants them to see. >> let me ask you, we showed you
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the mayor's tweet a moment ago. at the very end of it he talked about legal options. do you know what he means bythality? >> the city council here in charlottesville, eever sips they voted to remove the confederate statue and changing the name of the park, they've been dealing with legal wranglings nonstop. the university of virginia back at that torch lit rally back in august, where hundreds marched, the university just last month decided to approve a ban on open slangs on campus here, trying to prevent what happened here in downtown charlottesville. now, there may be differences in the public space, though. this is right in the middle of downtown, there is a curfew there at 11:00 at night. but legally there's a question of what could you legally ban in a public city park. >> you mentioned this a second
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ago when you were talking about the smaller group there, that at the very end they were chanting something to effect of we will be back. have you had a chance to talk to anyone in the charlottesville community and get their response to that threat? >> you know it's something that i think the city and people that live here have come to expect. honestly, it's deja-vu with this rally. >> that's correct. >> and it's very unfortunate. we talked to one group of small counterprotesters that came out there tonight. there were maybe ten or so of these counterprotesters that heard what was happening, saw it on social media and saw it right down from all these restaurants and bars down from the lively part of the city. they came up there, one woman dropped to her knees and started praying. some leaders engaged with
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richard spencer and some of the other leaders in that group. it didn't turn violent. one of the people we talked to is this is something we have to come to expect, and they don't want heather heyer's death and they don't want what happened here in to go in vain. they want to come back and stand up to these people coming from out of town doing these demtrationstrations and causing problems. >> and keep thinking of heather heyer's mother who we heard back from in august. your heart just goes out especially now that these people are back. thank you. appreciate you reporting on that. awful. >> thank you, brooke. coming up we will have more from alabama and mississippi as hurricane nate prepares to make landfall number two within the next hour. stay here. when you say you need a heart transplant... that's a whole different ballgame. i was in shock. i am very proud of the development of drugs that can prevent the rejection and prevent the recurrence
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hi, there, i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me on this saturday night this is special coverage on this hurricane season, a season that doesn't seem to want to end. we're talking about hurricane nate. we're talking about concern number one being storm surge. this storm has triggered watches and warnings all the way from louisiana to the manhandle. thousands of people tonight without power. rain, winds, storm surge, wourt spouts, possible tornados all part of this fast moving storm. this is the third hurricane to t

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