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>> i serve at the appointment of the president and i am here for as long as the president feels i can be useful. >> inside politics, the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters now. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. to our viewers in the united states and around the world, thank you for sharing your sunday. president trump says all is fine in his relationship with secretary of state rex tillerson. really? >> we have a very good relationship. we disagree on a couple of things. sometimes i'd like him to be a little bit tougher. but other than that, we have a very good relationship. >> plus, one week after the las vegas massacre, investigators remain at a loss to explain the gunman's motive. here in washington, there is talk of outlawing a device that made the gunman's arsenal more deadly, but is it just talk? >> fully automatic weapons have been outlawed for many, many years. this seems to be a way of going
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around that, so obviously we need to look at how we can tighten up the compliance with this law so that they are -- so that fully automatic weapons are banned. >> we're also keeping a very watchful eye on tropical storm nate. it was a category 1 hurricane when it made landfall last night in mississippi. the fourth hurricane to hit united states in six weeks. hundreds of thousands still without power this hour and there is significant flooding along the coast. the danger far from over. while nate doesn't have the punch of harvey, irma or maria, the rapidly moving system will bring tropical storm conditions well inland over portions of the southeast. see the track there. we'll have an updated forecast in a little bit. we begin with president trump, a new overture to democrats that has some republicans nervous. yes, the president says his ultimate goal remains repealing and replacing obamacare. but he's been working the phones over the weekend hoping to get democrats on board with some temporary obamacare fix. >> if we made a temporary deal, i think it would be a great
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thing for people. but it is up to them. obamacare is a disaster, the numbers are out. it is exploding like i said it would. so basically if we could do a one year deal or a two year deal, as a temporary measure, you'll have block granting ultimately to the states which is what the republicans want, that really is a repeal and replace. >> one of the many interesting things the president said yesterday. with us, abbie philips of the washington post, the post's karen demergin, michael warren and sara murray. what does he mean there? in the sense, the democrats saying, no, mr. president, we saw what you did friday with the repealing, pulling back, rolling back the contraception protecti protections, we won't do any steps with you until you take repeal and replace off the table. if you're the republican and the president of the united states, you've failed for eight months saying i'll do a one or two year temporary fix with the democrats, doesn't that send
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shivers up your spine if you're a conservative republican? >> yes. and that is the answer. i think this is -- it is interesting politically as well. this is something where the -- this is one major issue on which conservatives have said republicans, john mccain, for instance, not necessarily the conservative's conservative, has not had the president's back. they have gone out and said we need to find republicans who are going to be supporting the president's agenda. and now here is the president, you know, looking for democrats, to support his agenda. it shows you that the president has sort of much looser idea of what it is he wants to accomplish. i don't think he has a grand vision for health care in this country. i think that's a big reason why it failed in congress. so why not go with democrats? why? it can get you a win. i think that's his focus rather than any sort of, you know, market-based reforms to the health care system. >> i think one of the things i heard there was trump finding a
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new way to brand repeal and replace. he's basically saying, hey, we'll do a one or two year deal, probably get block grants at the end of it and that's going to be repeal and replace and that's -- a lot of republicans would disagree about that, but this is a president who is going to want, a, a win, but also want to repackage whatever kind of deal he gets with the democrats into repeal and replace that he can run on. maybe other republicans, conservatives and those deep red districts can't run on, but he might be able to run on that. and that's the risk here. i think there are some republicans who want in the congress who want as mccain says regular order, they want to work with democrats on a bipartisan deal, but there are other conservatives in congress who do not want that. they want pure and simple get rid of obamacare, replace it with something brand-new, it seems very unlikely at this stage they'll get that pure repeal and replace and they might end up with whatever trump is able to repackage. >> the timing is delicious because he had the republican
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leadership in the oval office when he cut the first deal with democrats and surprised them on the spending plan and raising the debt ceiling. now we'll see if he gets to the finish line, trying to do one on daca. so you're the republican party, the president is cutting deal with democrats on spending and debt, he's trying to cut a deal with the democrats on immigration, now seven year promise to repeal obamacare in shambles eight months into the trump administration, he's on the phone with chuck schumer. chuck schumer says, here is what he said, the president wanted to make another run at repeal and replace, i told the president that's off the table. if he wants to work together to improve the existing health care system, we democrats are open to this suggestion, his suggestions. here is the tough part for democrats. their base will say, leader schumer, you cannot go into any conversations with the president unless he takes it off the table. if the president is saying we'll come back to repeal and replace two years from now and offers the democrats some deal, isn't that a way to -- for democrats, a, to maybe fix obamacare and then see if consumers say, oh, okay, and then, b, push this
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into 2018, 2019, 2020 for the republicans? >> yeah, over the longer term it makes life harder for the republicans. the democrats may need to swallow a tough pill in the meantime. we're talking about the politics of it and not the real life implications of it. if you make changes like this, do make a fix like this, you could stabilize some of these markets, bring some of these premiums down. there are ways to tweak obamacare so that it works more effectively for people and maybe the political price isn't quite as caustic if that's the situation we're in. that's the calculation that the president is looking at right now. we'll see how other republicans feel about it. >> it is also just a question of, i mean, you know, he's going to spend the next two years trying to pick away at parts of obamacare if they don't make a deal, which will squeeze everybody in different ways, politically and practically as well as you mentioned. and do democrats want to be a witness to that happening because they think they'll gain politically. they haven't been able to win on that argument that well or that
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consistently in the past. the other question is, what will the trump base voters do? president trump has proved he's the one who gets to dictate the agenda for the base, not the base dictating it for him. we have seen how a lot of the issues affect his base in an adverse way. how much could they take of this picking apart the obamacare regulation that the president can do by himself in order to force a political solution, is there a breaking point there for his base. >> isn't that the trump paradox as we enter the approach nine months, the president says let's do deals with democrats, if you watch what his administration has done, it was rolling back obamacare says health insurance plans must offer women contraceptive services, the justice department issuing you guidelines, the justice department earlier in the week saying the civil rights laws do not apply to transgender americans. if you're a democrat or republican, watching the president on the one hand say let's do deal-making with the
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democrats, then looking at the paper from the agencies and saying this is what he does, what's the answer? >> it is a high wire act i think for democrats. and they have been talk about this from the very beginning. how do you make deals with someone who is basically poking their base every single day with real things. but i think that that -- what we have seen with the daca fix, perhaps, and with the budget compromise is that democrats feel like even if in the short-term they can come together, come up with something that reduces harm for large swaths of the population as far as they're concerned, that's better than doing nothing. even if it means still resisting trump on civil rights issues or resisting trump on, you know, birth control, and other issues. but it is tough. it is very tough. i don't know how long this is going to last. i think the obamacare potential obamacare deal will be maybe the hardest of them all. it really puts the issues right
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at -- >> even talking about it, heading into a 2018 midterm cycle, where both parties tell you it is all about turning out your base voters, what is the dissidence there among republicans and conservatives is, the president says i want repeal and replace, but you failed, you haven't sent me a bill, so i'm going to call chuck and nancy. >> the republican base, increasingly, it seems like, is with trump. and are against the republican establishment. so the republican -- >> more so than the democrats maybe. >> absolutely. that's the big enemy and that's something where trump could be very effective at saying, look, follow me, trust me on -- >> does it turn out for republicans in the midterms when you have the house and the senate at stake. >> i think that's what's at stake. >> pelosi was supposed to be the boogieman in all of this and the president is saying i call chuck and nancy and strike a deal and move on. republicans are, like, no, we're running against nancy pelosi in 2018, this is the strategy. >> chuck and nancy aren't always totally in agreement. before we get to the question of is it republican or democrat,
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can they field primary opponents that would damage and hurt some of the republican candidates in the first place. i think if -- there is not that much time left for that too because primaries start in the early spring, right? if you can actually primary out some of these republicans, that's what's going to be kicking some of seats potentially to democrats down the line for the general population vote in these districts. but if they don't quite get their act together faster, then maybe some of the republicans can withstand this candidate of political pressure from -- >> stay tuned for the next phone call to chuck or nancy or the president will clarify all this today. when we come back, one week after the las vegas massacre, even the nra is open to doing something about a device that helps rifles fire faster. the nra says all that is needed is a new rule. democrats insist there must be a new law. ♪ ♪
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both pressing questions one week after the las vegas massacre. vice president pence visited saturday, stopping with his wife karen, you see it there, at the memorial of 58 crosses, each of those crosses representing a life lost. earlier the vice president spoke at a prayer service. >> in america we mourn with those who mourn. we grieve with those who grieve. and i stand before you today on behalf of my family, and every family in america to say we're with you. today we are all vegas strong. >> the president was in las vegas earlier in the week visiting some of the injured in the hospital and with first responders including the sheriff leading the investigation. >> he's a sick, demented man. have they been able to find out anything else? >> still a little soon. we have a couple of good leads. and we're working our way through that. we're going to get the answer. >> i know. there might be something there.
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the wires are screwed up. >> evidence from the gunman's hotel room included so-called bump stocks, a device that allows a semi-automatic rifle to fire more rapidly. past shootings have this in common, the media clamoring for new gun control laws in washington that soon fades. this could be different because the discussion now includes top republicans. >> fully automatic weapons have been outlawed for many, many years. this seems to be a way of going around that. so obviously we need to look at how we can tighten up the compliance with this law so that they are -- so that fully automatic weapons are banned. >> that does make it significant. the republican speaker of the house, a gun rights advocate, saying we have to do something, but the question is how? a lot of republicans are saying, and we'll get to the nra in a minute, the nra's position, the trump administration can handle this administratively, the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms can issue a new regulation that makes the stocks illegal, let's not have new legislation.
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democrats say, oh, no, let's get this on the books. even though you have more urgency this time, more bipartisan urgency, might it still collapse? >> we were talking about obamacare a minute ago and what the president is doing whenle it comes to the executive orders. regulations can be undone in the future. that's a problem. if the republicans are fairly serious about not wanting the automatic weapons, that's been a position they held for a very long time, the only reason to be really afraid of the law at this point would be that it is going to be -- momentum for the people that are gun control. it has been years since they have had a win on that. even though this is a win that everybody agrees is something that should be done there are some people concerned about that that means for the next person down the line, do you go to semi-automatics, background check legislation that democrats have wanted for a long time or the law that would prohibit suspected terrorists from
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getting a gun. >> that's why i think the president's words are so critical here. if he tells the republican congress to do this, the republican congress will have little chance but to listen to the head of the nra here essentially saying i want to work with the president, but i do not want a new law. >> what the nra has said is we ought to take a look at that, see if it is in compliance with federal law, and it is worthy of additional regulation. that being said, we didn't say ban, we didn't say confiscate. >> didn't say ban, didn't say confiscate. they want the atf to issue a regulation. that seems to be -- very politely worded. that seems to be a marker to some republicans in congress, let us do this our way, do not bring a bill to the floor. >> that's true. i think this issue is actually really not that great politically for republicans. i know the nra is breathing down their necks. by and large, if you look at the polling, there is not a whole lot of debate in the american public about wanting a little bit more gun control. it would be fairly easy for them
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to do this basically getting the last vestages of machine guns off the streets, say they have done something, and then move on. >> i think that it is an opportunity for them to do it. i'm not sure they will, but it is a relatively easy thing, probably the easiest thing that has come across their desk in over a decade on this issue, and there is not very much debate about it. even with lapierre taking that stance. >> what we're talking about here is a very narrow change, whether you decide to do it through legislation or whether you decide to do it through a rule, i think the nra is worried once you start going down the legislative path it will become something bigger. but, you know, frankly the big opportunity to do something like this was in the wake of sandy hook. and washington made it very clear there was no appetite to do any kind of real gun control. so however they approach this, sure, it might be a political win for both sides, but it is still very narrow. we're not talking about
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significant broad gun control. i think many people in washington feel like the moment to look in the mirror and say is this what we want to do is after sandy hook. people didn't do that. >> the appetite in the country was not for this. even after sandy hook, you look at the polling on this, certainly australian style gun confiscation or major gun controls, simply just weren't popular. it is why it actually -- i think the nra's concern, which i think you're right, this is what their concern is, if you do ban bump stocks through legislation, this will bring on this whole lot more gun control legislation, they'll have momentum, it is actually unfounded. really something like banning bump stocks, which is essentially closing a loophole, basically saying what is already illegal needs to be actually illegal. seems like a legislative layup for republicans, not going to face, i think, a lot of pushback from voters, and that's who drives gun -- the sort of gun
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debate. >> and listen here, steve scalise, we heard paul ryan at the top saying i'm open to this, he does not commit to legislation, he said we should do something about this, he does not commit to legislation. he's saying maybe the legislation can do this with a rule. listen to number three, steve scalise, just recovered from a life threatening gunshot wound, the congressional baseball practice, he says slow down, everybody. >> there are people that want to rush judgment. they have a bill written already. and, look, minority leader nancy pelosi already said she wants it to be a slippery slope. she doesn't want to stop bump stocks. it is a little bit early for people to say they know what to do to fix this problem. >> this is going to be so strange seeing scalise versus gabby giffords for the next several months on this and it is going to be sad to watch. nobody is proposing an australian style gun confiscation ban sort of a thing. it is background checks, it is the terror watch list, it is not anything more than that for years. and so the idea of the slippery
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slope is the fear and frankly, i mean, yes, nancy pelosi said we want background checks too, other democrats said we shouldn't let this go forward. they should take a note, when you go too big, you miss the little thing you can get, what they're grappling now with daca. do they try to get more balance it with border controls or can they let this little thing that everybody agrees on go. similar situation. don't build the momentum if you don't have the opening step. democrats are wanting it pile on more and the republicans are afraid they'll pile on more. there is a solution on there, don't right now and wait for the next thing, but nobody is of course -- >> excellent point. this is one of a thousand issues we can go through, you can do one or two incremental things, however, both bases, both bases either want it all or want nothing because of the -- that's the problem of leadership. they call it that word. how do you keep your job once he hears he called him a moron? it's all pop-culture trivia, but it gets pretty intense.
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welcome back. let's turn to the curious case of america's top diplomat, and his strained relationship with the boss. we reported in late july the secretary of state tillerson was frustrated with the boss in considering an early rexit. and stunning details including that tillerson had called the president of the united states, his boss, a moron. the president was furious when he learned the insult, we're told, and his chief of staff had to mediate another big personnel crisis. secretary tillerson stays, but only if he makes clear who's boss. >> president trump's america first agenda has given voice to millions. president trump's foreign policy goals break the mold. he puts americans and america first. he's smart. he demands results wherever he goes. >> mark the president down as satisfied for now. it is clear he's more happy with
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his chief of staff than with the secretary of state. >> john kelly is one of the best people i've ever worked with. he's doing an incredible job. and he told me for the last two months he loves it more than anything he's ever done. he's a military man. but he loves doing this, which is chief of staff, more than anything he's ever done. he's doing a great job. he will be here in my opinion for the entire seven remaining years. he likes secretary tillerson. so do i. we have a very good relationship. we disagree on a couple of things. sometimes i'd like him to be a little bit tougher. but other than that, we have a very good relationship. >> wow. we could spend a lot of time on that, including the president's confidence, a, he'll win a second term and, b, that john kelly will stay for the second term. i'm not sure about the kelly part. i think the odds of kelly staying for seven years are higher than the president staying for a second term.
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i like secretary tillerson. little punch there. wish he would be a little tougher. clearly a lot of dysfunction in this relationship. >> you think? this is not -- this is not a president who gets over slights easily or maybe ever. so learning that secretary of state called you a moron and then the fact that then came out publicly, yeah, that's a difficult thing for president trump to get past. one realization in the white house, they had a lot of turnover. some of it is justified. they feel largely positive about the decision for tom price to leave the administration, they feel like his actions were out of line, but a lot of is the volatility of this administration. so then to lose your secretary of state, i think everyone in that white house knows that would be a big deal, it would be a difficult thing to replace and so they're all trying to find some kind of awkward, happy-ish medium that people can move on. >> you had a meeting when this was playing out the other day, the president went to las vegas,
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john kelly snad washingttayed i, did not travel. and jim mattis, they consider themselves the adults in the room. secretary tillerson had to give the remarks, making it clear the president is boss. did you call the president of the united states a moron? this. >> i'm not going to deal with petty stuff like that. we don't deal with that kind of petty nonsense. it is intended to do nothing but divide people. i'm not going to be part of this effort to divide this administration. >> that's not petty nonsense to ask somebody, a cabinet secretary, if they called the president of the united states a moron and he does not deny it. he sent his spokeswoman out later to say, no, no, no, that didn't happen. he's the source, he's the person, he doesn't deny it, that's amazing. >> it is extraordinary. and the fact that you have to, first of all, you have to answer the questions, second of all, this whole episode has been nothing but pettiness from beginning to end.
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if it weren't for -- >> iran, north korea, china, nafta, so many real things going on. this is, you know, to underscore the conflict here, it isn't just the personality dispute between them. the two of them do not really see eye to eye personalitiwise. tillerson is a different kind of person. he has a hard time dealing with trump's sort of impetuousness and volatility. but at the same time, there are some very real policy issues at hand here. they do not see eye to eye. where the president doesn't necessarily appreciate the feeling that tillerson is always bucking against what he wants to do, so it is deeper than just the pettiness and the name calling and that's what makes this so hard, and that's what makes it such a difficult situation for john kelly to resolve as hard as he's trying to resolve it. >> it is about undermining the president's authority. i think that's how the president feels. when he hears things like this, in the media, i think he hears it, privately as well, that
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there are people like tillerson, like mattis, who think they're the adults in the room, it is insulting to the president. and i think this is something  that he's been chafing, chafing at him, ever since he became president. and i guess now we're seeing the results of that coming out in public. >> and senator bob corker is retiring, he feels no more restrictions in washington, d.c., the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. as this was breaking the other day, secretary of state tillerson in the doghouse, all have a big meeting, the president of the united states is the boss, right, listen to senator corker's take. >> i think secretary tillerson, secretary mattis, and chief of staff kelly are those people that help separate our country from chaos. and i support them very much, you know. he ends up not being supported in the way that i would hope a
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secretary of state would be supported. and that's just my -- from my vantage point. >> so much has happened in this administration and whether it is the tweets or the words or anything else, sometimes we get dizzy following the bouncing balls. that's a leading member of the united states senate, a chairman saying these three people help separate the country from chaos. separate our country from chaos. the white house trying to spin that as he meant chaos around the world, and senator corker said, no, i stand by my words. this is a senior republican senator, a chairman, saying that the president of the united states is the chaos. >> the reason it is a significant -- this is not a senator who has been criticizing trump like people, like john mccain have, since basically the beginning of time. he's been working quite closely with the administration, he's been blocking in many cases for the administration, the russia sanctions bill may have happened earlier if corker hadn't been buying them time to may a better deal with moscow over syria. corker is somebody who doesn't have absolute loyalty to the
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trump administration, but somebody who has been an adult in the room himself trying to balance things between the white house and congress, have him come out and say this is significant. there is a different work ethic at play here too, to jump on to what abby was saying, tillerson is part urging more restraint, but tillerson is not exactly a, you know, a fire and fury type of guy if i can borrow a phrase that has real implications now and trump is. so when trump gets frustrated with how things are going and what options he's being given and his top diplomats are doing, he fires off on twitter and starts these -- takes these frustrations that are probably in house frustrations and makes them a public thing and then gets upset when the reaction is also made public. it is oil and water to begin with, right? and then you have a president who does not like -- who does not have a lot of patience for anything. >> in the wake of that, we're focusing on the personality
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clash, it is so important, the personnel clash, it is important given the responsibilities, among them senator corker talks with chaos, among them is north korea, the president saying the calm before the storm, the calm before the storm, won't explain what he means by that. yesterday, tweeting again, presidents and their administrations have been talking to north korea for 25 gre years, hasn't worked. only one thing will work. he doesn't say what the one thing is there, but back to fire and fury, and locked and loaded. if you're the secretary of state, trying to negotiate with north korea to get them to dial it back, you don't think that's happen hepf helpful, but the president does. >> you look at past administrations, they say it is important for the secretary of state and the president to have a close working relationship. that is how you are most successful as secretary of state because other nations need to be able to trust that you are speaking on behalf of the administration, you are speaking on behalf of what the president wants. right now, if you are rex
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tillerson and the president has been, you know, basically, like, bouncing you up and down all week and disagreeing with you from a policy perspective, how are you going to go to any nations and try to insist you are speaking on behalf of the white house, on behalf of the administration. it was one thing earlier on when the white house was giving an indication, this say little bit of good cop, bad cop, we have folks doing the negotiations, doing sort of this outreach and the president is going to say what he wants to say, we have a carrot and stick approach. that doesn't work if nobody trusts the words that are coming out of the secretary of state's mouth and nobody believes he's a credible figure in this administration. >> if the chinese say, great, let's check the president's twitter feed, see if he agrees with you. we go to the cnn weather center for the latest on tropical storm nate. having moderate to severe plaque psoriasis is not always easy. it's a long-distance run. and you have the determination to keep going. humira has a proven track record of being prescribed for nearly 10 years.
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welcome back. let's get an update on tropical storm nate. you see it poses a threat across
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the southeastern united states. chad myer has the latest for us in the weather center. good morning. what's going on out there. >> down to 45 miles per hour now, centered over montgomery, alabama. still seeing the storm surge here, though, in the coastal communities and in the back bays here, from panama city through mobile and into gulf port, mississippi. that's the area that still has the wind blowing on shore, so the waves are blowing on shore and so is the water. like when you cool off, your cup of coffee, you blow on the top, the water of the coffee goes to the one side of the cup, the side that is away from you. that's kind of what is happening here. we had an 89-mile-per-hour wind gust as it made landfall near venice, in louisiana, last night. and another landfall in biloxi in the overnight hours as well. that's where the storm surge truly is. the threat today will be small tornadoes. ones and twos, maybe 120 miles per hour, that's enough to cause damage and second threat is the flooding that will go on from
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northern alabama through parts of western, north carolina, south carolina, and also into kentucky and tennessee. some spots, john, could pick up about five or six inches of rain in about five or six hours and that's enough. this isn't harvey. this isn't 40 inches, because it is moving fast. still moving about 25 miles per hour, but put down a lot of tropical rainfall and one time and one spot and you will certainly see some flooding there. john? >> chad, appreciate the update. we'll keep in touch throughout the day. if you're a community on the path, keep in touch, listen to your local officials. this is the fourth hurricane to hit the united states, downgraded to a tropical storm, fourth hurricane to hit the united states in six weeks, the third to hit the united states main land in six weeks. so number one, for the most part, fema, the president's federal response, especially here in the main land united states, received high marks. we'll see again here with the stress and strain kicks in at some point and god bless the first responders, whether federal emergency management
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people, state emergency management people tested by this. where the president has had a pushback as you were in puerto rico with the president, here was one moment that people found, shall we say, a little bit awkward, the president talking with puerto rico's governor, publicly very supportive of the president, president trying to make the case, a, i'm doing great, and, b, this isn't so bad. >> if you look at a real catastrophe like katrina, and you look at the tremendous hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people that die, and you look at what happened here, what is your death count here as of this moment? 17? >> 16. >> 16 people certified, 16 people versus in the thousands, you can be very proud. >> at a minimum, the language is beyond awkward. you can be very proud, 16 people are dead, they doubled the death toll, shortly after that event. number one, you can't compare storms, you cannot compare storms. these are human beings, and whether it is one or a thousand
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or somewhere in between, there are friends, neighbors, brothers and sisters, if you look at a real catastrophe like katrina, the people of puerto rico don't feel this wasn't a real catastrophe. >> they feel it is a real catastrophe. it is a real catastrophe. these death tolls are being revised because there are areas of puerto rico they still hadn't even been able to access by the time the president was on the ground. puerto rico looks like you put it in a snow globe and shook it and put it back down. there are no tops on the trees, not roofs on the houses, roads are still impassable. and people are already leaving, coming to the main land, coming to the united states, coming to florida because they're looking at the devastation and saying, i don't have any water, i don't have any power, i don't have any cell phone service, there is no one to call to come fix my roof. and i don't have a job because wherever i worked before also has no roof, no power, and who knows where the owners are, they're dealing with their own situation. so it is a crisis in puerto rico. it is a humanitarian crisis. and they are now putting more and more assets on the ground.
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it is going to be a long-term effort, very expensive. nothing in the way the president -- nothing in his tone was indicative of that when he was on the ground. >> i think if you listen to what he said, immediately compares to katrina, talks about the way in which that was perceived. this say president who thinks about things in terms of how is it perceived on television? and trying to make the case, trying to make a pr case that what his administration did, hey, it wasn't as bad as that disaster which was the bush administration's response to katrina, we're never going to get the sort of feel good rhetoric coming out of this president. we shouldn't expect it even though it is what he ought to do. and so what are we left with here? we're left with a president who has got a crisis on his hands and doesn't seem to have any way of addressing the actual real things that sara just described. >> he said yesterday, last night, i gerks tauess taped the
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welcome back. let's head around the inside politics table. let's get you ahead of the big political news around the corner. abby abby? >> despite all the president's denials about the tillerson story that he threatened to quit and called him a moron, i'm told by aides this week the two have not met face to face and there are no plans at the moment for that to happen. their relationship is on ice. thin ice. and, you know, he has the job now, but when you talk to folks in the white house, they say we just don't know, and at any moment the president could just change his mind. they haven't really had any
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opportunities to broach the conflict over this issue and as time goes on, i think there are a lot of white house aides two suspect the president will stew and stew and one day tillerson is no longer going to have that coveted presidential confidence. >> detente at best. >> one thing that may help determine that fate is the rollout of the iran deal noncertification as we're going to be seeing this week. but what matters in terms of the president's attitude about this is what comes next. this is a one shot deal. you say i don't certify the terms and compliance, you blow up the deal or don't blow up the deal, they don't want to blow up the deal, you get one shot to change the things you don't like about it, otherwise you become the boy who cried wolf. that rests now on doing something in congress. there has been talks and coordination going on for a very long time, we know that congress is going to try to address at least the main gop complaint after ten years that iran put on
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a definite pathway to nuclear development, but this has been a plan that has been made among republicans. they don't have democratic buy-in yet. the question is how hard are democrats going to hold to the line of protecting obama's deal and try to make this a political issue. it is not clear who it is a win for. it will become a political fight on capitol hill. the question is, who will win and what will the president's reaction then be. >> fascinating one. big week ahead. >> we talked about one shot for the iran deal this is a shot the president has been wanting to take basically since he took the oval office over. in fact, 90 days ago, when this recertification question was up for question, the white house was prepared, going to recertify and then the day that we learned this, the day that they were supposed to be recertifying, the president changed his mind. and for seven hours within the white house there was a scramble, changing talking points, debates, the president was calling up tom cotton, one of the big opponents of the iran deal, to have a conference call
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essentially with his national security team, and in the end of those seven hours, the president did decide to recertify. but basically from that moment on, he made the decision that he was going to do whatever he could to not de -- not recertify the next time around. that's what we're going to see. i only mention all that to say the announcement is supposed to come on thursday, but with this president, you just never know. >> one of the many unpredictables. sara? >> this is a president tested by a number of crises lately but a raw nerve when you talk to administration officials is the response to the aftermath of hurricane maria and puerto rico. they're very defensive. they are taking aim at local officials saying they're not doing enough, taking aim at reporters on the ground saying they're misrepresenting the situation and no one has acknowledged at this point what they could have done better, what they have learned from this, what they might do differently next time. there is still a humanitarian crisis that is unfolding on the ground in puerto rico. it is going to last for months. and it is clearly a sensitive
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spot for this white house because they feel like they have done a really good job, responding to other crises, responding to texas, responding to florida, they're not getting high marks in puerto rico. >> president says you're wrong. he'll keep saying that, i suspect. house speaker paul ryan spent this past week on a tax cut pr blitz, promising the train son the tracks. many other big stake holders in the tax debate are growing more worried and they see too many parallels to the disastrous obamacare repeal derailments. there are policy divides in the house and the senate, sound familiar? procedural hurdles too, even the characters are familiar. republicans, for example, need to attach tax reform to their budget. the house did its part this past week, but there are still some hurdles in the senate. rand paul is not sold on the budget. he wants less military spending. john mccain isn't sold either. he wants more money for the pentagon. to many worried republicans, it is deja vu all over again. we'll keep an eye on that one. that's it for "inside politics." thanks for sharing your sunday
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