firearms in the united states according to a study to be published later this year. that means 7.6 million own an average of 17 guns each. he was set to have an arsenal of more than 40 guns. thanks for being part of my program this week. i'll see you next week. i'm brian. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is reliable sources, our weekly look at the story behind the story, of how the news gets made. in the aftermath how was the nra using the media to shape the gun debate? we'll have a rare look with editor marty and we'll have the latest on the harvey weinstein barrel. numerous allegations published in the new york times. why did it take so long for these allegations to come to light? first here, this was moron week,

right? the word of the week. you remember how he started tweeting about fake news and when it came to coverage of puerto rico and the ongoing crisis there he then retweeted attacks against msnbc and other members of the media. later in the week he went back to this fake news idea in a big way. tillerson was on the verge of resigning over the summer. he did not deny he called trump a moron. that really drove the political news cycle for days. we have seen even more tweets as a result. he even suggested maybe the

intell committee should instead look into in theworks. >> let's look at april ryan. >> brian -- and welcome to all of you. first to you, take me through all of these fake news critique this week. is it true when the going gets tough the news gets fake in his mind? >> you hit the nail squarely ton head. what really happens is the fact that this president is trying to create a positive spin when all chaos is happening. he doesn't want to nation to know. it has been nine months.

the white house core upon dents that have been in there. >> we are baked into the frame work. i'm thinking about what he said to sarah's dad talking about the hate in that room. we are doing our job. we are getting all. >> do you think he wants the committee is he just venting.

>> earlier this week you said this is the calm before the tomorrow. when he talks about the fake press and fake news media, he is the chaos. there is nothing other than that than the promotion of chaos. nobody hates on huckabee sanders. nobody hates the woman. i asked her earlier this week, she made a very valid point. we are responsible to give you the trut p so they hate everybody that is not them. >> who is they?

the white house aids? >> i think the white house, the entire administration is focused with donald trump at attenwho are you going, your lying. >> it is om one -- do you take these kinds of or he said we is it something you just. >> i lued anymore what he did have is a single ability to market himself. we saw that when he created you're fired.

in terms of the press, it is essential we keep your eye on the ball. i oversee u.s.a. today and u.s.a. today network like the arizona republic and cincinnati. what is the central truth here? we have poem when we back within the i mean, yeah, frankly the issue there is really is there d discord in our administration

and what does that mean for the people of america? what does it mean for our ene enemi enemies? >> the president repeatedly denied the this rust of the nbc story. >> if it's all based on confidential sources what does it mean? >> we have extremely strict sources and tried not to use n confidential sources. there is a time that's the only way to get important relevant information. when you use it there are few that the bar is very high.

when you do hear from a confidential source it is to then go and do reporting. >> they did say they spoke to something like a dozen or so sources. >> yes. it gets to the question of who do you trust? do you trust tillerson on the record or trust these dozen confidential sources? >> this is a very serious thing. so i trust the people that they interviewed and i trust the bar which is set very high, but i

also think that in regards to what donald trump said this week regarding the press, you have to stay focused on what the administration is doing. you must keep your eye on it because if it ventured over then we have to react to that. that's a very tough road. we are walking trying to do our job making sure we can do our job. yes, i trust the sources. i know what we have to go there in order to get that information. donald trump's denienadenial. >> i went to one of the briefings and i was struck by it was even more tense in the room

than on television. there was aggressive questioning. in the room it is even more impressive. it is even more tense. has it always been that way or new in the trump era? >> it depends on the moment in time. this is a moment where there is tension. yes, you were there. we even had a conversation after the briefing. i remember that day. the question is why there is tension, is it the fact that they are spinning us? we want to know the truth. some times we don't feel the truth is coming out. there is a bit of tension. in the past, brian, it all depends on the moments. i have been there from the second term of the bill children on era.

for the last nine months we knew that information was skewed one orlando and when we leave that most -- we shake our heads some times because we knowst. >> and we see it. >> yeah. >> and i remember hearing a couple of chuckles when he said the president is a tremendous advoca advocate. >> yes. as he calls us enemies of the american public. you know. >> if you can all gather round i

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only 11.7% of the island of puerto rico has power. the crisis continues there, but president trump is patting himself on the back a bit. he was interviewed by two of his friends. first rivera then huckabee. you see this formal sit down white house set up? it looks really great, right? we are used to seeing these interviews. trump hasn't done this with a tv journalist since may. it has been five months. no formal tv news interviews. if huckabee were a news journalist he would have pushed back. i want you to see how he reacts to trump passing paper towel

roll sbos into the crowd. >> we really did a good job. one example, they had these beautiful soft towels. there was a crowd of a lot of people. they were screaming and loving everything. i was having fun. they were having fun. they said throw them to me, mr. president. so the next day they said it was so disrespectful. it was just a made up thing. when i walked in the cheering was incredible. it was -- the cheering was deafening. >> rock star. let's bring back our panel. brian, your reaction. >> when i stop laughing i'll give it to you. >> i think whoever was in charge of that visual should be fired. larry said don't tell us how to stage the news we won't tell you how to report the news.

simple fact is in this administration they can't stage the news very well and they are trying to tell us how to report. it was very demeaning to the people. i don't know what the daefennea cheers were. they need to get better at it. this is a very good example of not managing your visuals very well. >> we have seen him it is what he is doing on a christian broadcasting network. he gave a couple of interviews in the new york times but -- i think it was a short stand up

interare we missing something? >> the person people are missing something. some times questions help inand things they don't know. for this president seeing the father of sar a huckabee sanders. the president said he loves if he when he does in people, my radio network, when you don't hear from hoefrm people that are

and so is the american i remember the ang ps rnl. >> that were are i remember he was beaten up by b.e.t. there are outlets that are not i they represent other parts of america. it it is to talk to those i'm not saying we are bashing him but we are not if going to -- when he was tauing when you were

lobbing it what were the optics. >> >> i have a suspicion why we vn the. >> okay. >> yeah. i have got to say this, the issue on the throwing the paper towels, what it did is take attention away -- >> it's not the president's fault? >> it is the president's response possibility and thouk talk about the issue. we had ert. >> we talked to an official who said the hospitals in puerto rico are on life support.

88% don't have electricity. there is a humanitarian disaster there. >> it is a long-term story to cover over the long-term. >> yes. i talked about the contin controver controversy. i tried to talk about it. >> i showed them a tweet from someone on the ground in puerto rico and asked them why is there a disconnect between what the white house says and what is going on there? they don't want to hear that. they will shut down anything they don't want to listen to. to the other point we have to stay focused. everything they are doing is to keep us from being foe cucussed.

you have to stand in that press room every day and be willing to go after them because they are going to dissuade you from gang after it. you talk about the one interview. i said hey, how many press conferences has this president had? the most we can get i have been able to question him three times. >> right. one solo press conference and the rest of the time you might to go so pretend he can't hear you and wuk zbli would love to have you back very soon. >> had the right lost its mind? that's the title of a new book. that's right after the break. bus work to do. so he took aleve.

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as soon as you heard the sounds you knew, the gunshots and screams, you knew the casualty count was going to be unbearable. one week after the attack these crosses now lining the strip. the conversation is all about guns, gun violence, gun safety, gun rights. executives are all over tv now. my next guest says the nra really turned gun policy issues

into a culture war issue. it has become a that puts us against them, liberal versus normal americans. normal american charlie sikes is if author of how the right lost its mind. has the nra turned itself into a far right wing media country? >> first of all good morning. yeah. i think this is one of the key things is that the nra is no longer strictly about guns and gun control and they turned it whether this regulation or that regulation. they have really made themselves central to the culture war and triable identity on the right. i think this is an important thing to understand. it is why they are injecting themselves because this has now become a key issue of cultural identity. it is one of the reasons they are not going to break with the

nra any time soon. >> what about the idea that you present this idea that increasingly there's a lot of folks between the conservative movement who are immune? is that effecting the this week? >> yeah. we have segregated ourselves into these. they are the silos which i know you have talked about before. i think it's getting worse. all of the trajectory of the media is for us to be more divided, to pull back into our corners, to go to the safe spaces where our biases are confirmed, where our narratives are pushed and i don't see that changing any time soon. >> i notice on page 103 of your book here you say this is all likely going to get worse. i found myself -- i had to put the book down because it gets depressing to think we'll be

even more siloed why are you pessimistic about this? >> in part it is because we have created this eco system where if you are a conservative -- and by the way, these exist on the right and on the left but we have developed almost an immunity. sorry, we have broken down our immunity. >> immunity is a really interesting word. >> yeah. and that's one of the -- that was one of the shocks. i described to realize we had created an alternative media. at some point we had broken down all of the referees. as a result of that we have this flood of -- we have a flood of bogus information. i think one of the things president trump is doing -- and i think he is doing it rather

effectively by seizing the term fake news, what he has done is delegitimize any sort of pushback. i think that part of that is to immunize himself against negative stories and legitimate reporting. >> do you think president trump is stable? >> no. >> and remember parker came out a little while ago and questioned the president's stability? we have seen claiming he lacks reelection. he just responded and said the white house has become an adult day care center. he is suggestion jesting someone didn't show up to babysit the president today. do you think it is only worsing on a daily basis? some believe the president is not stable and we see a war of

words that confirms? >> i think you're seeing people are willing to save. >> you should not be surprised by any of this. she a serial liar, mock k women and the disabled, thin-skinned, vindictive, all of the things we saw during the campaign that for whatever reason they decided to rationalize. now we are seeing it play out in the white house. guys have reached the point where it's like can we not pretend that the emperor houf understood more than a year or two years ago. >> why. >> well, not willing to admit

the stability problem. >> i i this it goes back. one of the surprises of i saw whether they did it because they were playing some sort of 8 dimensional chess -- frankly it is the business model of the conservative media. they understand that conservatives are still behind donald trump and a lot of people on the right just simply -- they look to conservative media -- and i mentioned this before, as their safe space. they don't want to hear things that rattled their -- i try today imagine what it would be

like to do the show with an audience that simply does not want to hear it. there are true believers out there. there are the orange kool-aidedrinkers out thekool- e kool-aide drinkers. if they want to stay within that conservative crowd. >> that's our reality. thanks for being here. how the right let's its mind. what all of these powerful media men have in common

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the truth about winestein's behavior. was there more to him harassing actresses and models? the times found a lot more. at least eight settlesments with women as recently as 2015 and as far back as 1990. the behavior is disgusting. it is on the home page of nytimes.com. he says many of the accusations are false he admitted to behaving inappropriate in some cases. now husband future as that hollywood mogul is in doubt. one question lingers in the air, this question in the original times story. how could allegations repeating the same pattern on women a powerful male producer and even some of the same hotels. how could they have accumulated?

the answer is power. bill cosby had power. bill o'reilly had power and harvey winestein had a lot to bury stories that embarrassed him. he reportedly tried to bury the new york times investigation too. he hired lawyers. wi winestein could be a big spender buying full page ads in the new york times. the newspaper publishedw anyway. it says the trooult is hard. it is also uncomfortable. lisa bloom is normally on the other side standing up against men like bill o'reilly. his company bought the tv rights

to her book. she said he has always a been respectful around her. i couldn't think of how he harassed her for yoors. some times he struck settlements to keep them quiet. we have to see ails. we learned about bill o'reilly's. and then because the times invest gatded in 2017. think about the gap in time there, 13 years. o'reilly still denies all of the charges and attempting a comeback of sorts. winestein's strategy has been different. he admitted to causing pain. we heard the same dinosaur excuse. here is lisa bloom. >> why did he come to you in the first place? >> because these rumors have

swirled around him far long time. a lot of men that glue up in his generation grew up with a different mentality to women. he said himself, times have changed. it's 2017. she a dinosaur, he can't work his ipad very well. >> he can't work his ipad well excuse. on saturday bloom quit winestein's team and so did daifrs. we'll see what happens with winestein. there are bigger things here. unfolding on the unyear anniversary of this tape. >> i moved on her very heavily. i took her out very heavily. i moved on her like a [ bleep ]. i couldn't get there and she was married. i see her and she has the big phony -- you know, i'm

automatically attracted to her. i just start kissing her. when you're a star they let you do it. they let you do anything. grab them by the [ bleep ]. they let you do anything. >> it's not the one year anniversary of that tape. it's really the 12 year anniversary. the access hollywood tape is from 2005. it sat on the shelf at nbc for 11 years until it got leaked out to the washington post one month before election day. later that october of 2016 we learned about these women who accused trump of harassment. there are 11 cases you can read about on cnn.com. this is a scroll of all of the cases. it's really not so different from o'reilly or wine drps stein. they either stayed silent or were silent for decades. think about it.

in 2017 the investigation came out. each of these cases is different. is it too much to ask for consistency of outrage? these allegations are alarming. the man on that tape is now president of the united states. clinton has yet to condemn winestein's behavior soond has trump. he was quoted yesterday saying i wasn't surprised when i heard about it. we are in a profound cultural shift in this country. we are in the middle, not all the way there yet. this is about how all men of all political leadings treat women in 2017. the story is also about the power and balance that remains at many other kinds of companies

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sources." democracy dies in darkness is the slogan at "the washington post" but the lights are shining brightly at the paper's headquarters in d.c. president trump is a frequent critic of the paper but on saturday he took a different tone. he said, i can't believe i finally got a good story in the "post." amusing tweet because i was speaking recently with marty baron executive edder of "the post" in a rare tv interview and asked him about trump's critiques, the complaints from the administration, and how gathering news in washington has changed in the trump era. >> we're not stenographers and not just supposed to write down what somebody says. we're supposed to find out what happens. it's not what they say but what they do. that's what we're endeavorering to do. >> is the presidents and his administration making it more difficult to find out what's going on in washington. >> in many ways they are. they created a hostile

atmosphere. not that we had a wonderful relationship with the previous administration. there's sometimes an assumption that the press had a warm, cozy relationship with the obama administration. that wasn't the case. . we had a lot of conflicts with the obama administration and you may recall they had more leaked investigations against -- involving the press than all previous administrations combined. there wasn't a warm relationship. but it's been -- there's been a hostility fomented by the administration over the course of the campaign and certainly during the course of the administration. that makes it difficult. and at the same time the administration has restricted access to certain kinds of information. let's start with the president's tax returns. we don't have access to those tax returns. they weren't made available during the campaign. let's move on to visitor logs for the white house. we don't have access to those either. let's move on to the used to be some data that was actually available from various government agencies and this administration has take than information off of those -- off of those websites so we don't

have access to that. >> you had [ inaudible ] this week about the department attempts to change how it interacts with journalists in newsrooms and investigations. can you tell us anything about what happened? >> there was a meeting with the justice department, as has been reported. it wasn't just me but a group from the press, a couple lawyers, but mostly journalists, and there was policy established in the prior administration in which we would receive notification if the government, as part of a leak investigation, wanted to obtain a search warrant or wanted to -- intended to subpoena records from third parties like telephone companies and internet providers. they said they want to revisit the subject. they haven't said what they intend to do and i think they've ipds katsds that -- indicated they haven't decided on a policy yet. >> what are you and your colleagues advocating for? >> maintaining the existing polls. >> the war on leaks as it has

been described, i look at the track records so far and see only one case of someone being prosecuted, a government contractor for looeaking to a reporter. it's not a successful war on leaks that the trump administration is waging. you're saying it could be a lot more complicated underneath the surface, right, because there could be other investigations going on that we don't know about. >> that's entirely possible. we don't know. >> we don't know. >> they did have a press conference they said they were conducting a variety of leak investigations, so i have to assume there's more than the one that's been made public. >> are leak investigations the biggest threat or danger that your newsroom faces as it tries to navigate the trump water sts. >> i don't think it's the biggest threat. a bigger threat is certainly the administration's continuing attack on the press and its effort to undermine our credibility. that's what they are trying to do. they have tried over the course of the campaign and over the course of the administration to delegitimize us.

>> hasn't it failed, though? >> one could argue that. if you actually look at approval ratings for the press over the course of the last year, they've actually gone up because of the work that the press is doing. because of the kind of work that's taking place here in our newsroom. and -- but that doesn't -- you may think it's failed but i'm not sure they think it's failed and i think they believe this is something that appeals to the president's base of supporters. >> it's not something talk about in the past tense because it is ongoing, it's not something that's ending, it's something that president is continuing to do. >> it happens every day. almost become like background music to the work we do every day. >> have you tuned it out a bit? >> a bit yes, as a matter of fact. it's become kind of like background music. we know that he's going to say it pretty much every day, maybe every other day, but it's -- we just know that this is part of the environment in which we're operating these days. >> seems to me there's a handful of big news rooms that have focused on trump and russia and russian interference.

"new york times," "washington post," cnn, i think i would add "the wall street journal" what have you told your staffers about how to approach these stories? they're really complicated, really sensitive, do you read them, for example, before they come out. >> i read pretty much all of the stories before publication, maybe not every single one, but the vast majority of them, particularly the most sensitive stories. but we have a lot of other editors involved and tremendous reporters involved in that coverage, of course. so look their job is to do what we expect on every story and that is to do a thorough job, energetic job, to dig, look beneath the surface and to be careful. to be honest and honorable, to be accurate, to be fair. but also to tell people what the truth is. you know, the -- when we walk into this newsroom, the principles of the post are on the wall and the first one is our -- it talks about our mission to ascertain the truth as nearly as the truth may be

ascertained. a sense of striving there because the truth could be elusive. there is a truth, there actually is a truth, it's not just a matter of opinion, that there is a truth and it's our obligation to try to find out what that truth is and to continue that process of striving. >> quick break here. we'll be right back. listen up, heart disease. you too, unnecessary er visits. and hey, unmanaged depression, don't get too comfortable. we're talking to you, cost inefficiencies, and data without insights.

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