reporting that reveals the central white house claim on that that it's a joke to be false. cnn's jim acosta joins us now. what are you learning about that? >> reporter: well, of course as you were saying earlier today sarah sanders the white house press secretary she was pressed on this comment from the president that was reported in forbes that he challenged essentially the secretary of state rex tillerson to an iq test that they should compare their iq test. this is of course after tillerson called the president a moron. she said it was all a joke, that the president's comment about taking the iq test was a joke and the white house press should have a sense of humor. i did talk to a source this evening anderson who is close to the white house that says, no, the president was not joking when he made that comment and this was the quote that was giving to me from the source. they knew he was missed that people found out tillerson called him a moron and he spouted off about the iq test because he was mad. this white house knows it was not a joke and speaking of not being amused by all of this,

heather said she was asked about all of this and she insisted that tillerson does, in fact, have a high iq. anderson? >> i don't even know how to react to that. new developments today, the feud between corker and the president. >> reporter: also under the category, yes, this is real life, sanders was asked about it back and forth between the president and bob corker. senator corker as you've been reporting said that the president could be leading the country into world war iii, the president obviously responded to that earlier this morning with that tweet referring to senator corker as little bob corker, talking about going off on the senators height. sarah sanders was asked earlier today what about this notion from senator corker that the white house is an adult day care and here's what she had to say. >> look, senator corker is certainly entitled to his own

opinion, but he's not entitled to his own facts. the fact is this president has been an incredibly strong leader on foreign policy and national security and he's been a leader on this front and i think that's been seen and demonstrated time and time again since he took office. >> reporter: now it's interesting anderson, sarah sander was quoting another senator there. you're entitled to your opinion but not entitled to your own fact. that's amusing because, anderson, after all-this is a white house that has talked about alternative facts and so they're accusing the senator of trying to use his own seft facts when the white house has tried to do the same thing itself. >> it's also -- again, it is a continuation of the feud but to call a feud and sort of put it in the same category as the feud between ivana trump and melania trump, it undercuts the severity of what bob corker that said,

saying on the record, talking about the possibility of world war iii or the fear of world war iii, saying he knows for a fact that every day people in the white house are struggling to try to contain this president. >> reporter: i've observed before that this is sometimes like covering bad reality television. it does sometimes sound like the real housewives of d.c., unfortunately these are the real leaders of the usa and the president, for example, this morning was tweeting that senator corker was set up when, in fact, the "the new york times" has audio of senator corker agreeing with jonathan martin over at the "the new york times" that they would both record that interview. there was no set up if they were both talking to each other and both recording that interview. it just goes to show you at times getting back to their own set of facts, this white house just lives in an alter gnat universe and we saw that play out today. >> senator corker one of the

criticisms he made was the president says things in tweets which are not true and everybody knows it and the next day the president tweets out something which is not true as if to prove senator corker's point but jim acosta. joining us now is our panel. the idea the president was joking on the iq thing, i guess it's entirely within the realm of possibility, when you look back at the number of times the president has gone to that old chestnut of his amazingly huge iq, i mean he wasn't joking before when he kept -- he talks about going to an ivy league school and talks about how smart he is how he uses the best word and he brings up the iq an awful lot. >> it would be better if it was a joke obviously, because it's such a bizarre thing to do over and over. it's not usually people who are secure in their intelligence and education and don't talk -- >> none of them have ever said to me, i'm really smart.

>> it's a tell on his part that he's obviously very insecure about it and he was obviously very angry about what was said about him. >> you went to an ivy league school. >> my iq -- i'm in four digits. i just -- you know, i don't know anyone after junior high school who talks about their iq. it's just so surreally juvenile. >> i think at a men sa meeting they do. >> i've never been to one. >> i've seen it on tv. >> but -- but also if we can just say about iq, having a high iq does not correlate to being a good president or being a good employee in any setting, so the idea that oh, i have a big iq, thus i can do x, y or z is completely ridiculous. >> jimmy carter probably one of the smartest modern presidents we had, we talk about being a peanut farmer, nuclear engineer, not a great president.

so, yeah, there's no correlation. donald trump sees the world through uncertain pecking order and i think intelligence is certainly part of that. >> he commented that the shooter in las vegas was probably smart. i'm not sure that's a great compliment. >> he also complimented the leader of north korea for being resilient and smart -- >> and several others. >> the height thing, i want to go to that a little bit. little marco, little bob corker, donald trump if you are bald, if you're short, you're not worthy. you're not equal. there's something wrong with you. maybe bob corker would have been secretary of state, that's been suggested or reported had he been a couple of inches tall. it's interesting, you can discriminate against short people in this country and pretty much get away with it. you can't say -- you can't talk about people being fat, you can't talk about being -- there's age discrimination, you

can talk about people being short and little marco and -- >> the president does zero in on what he perceives as somebody's weakness whether it's a disability or height or whatever it is and he goes for that which as candidates one thing, again as president, it's interesting. >> what did we all learn in junior high and high school is that the person who is the biggest bully is the person who is the most insecure and that they are trying to prove something. we all know the stories about donald trump, how he's always tried to fit in, he always wanted to be part of new york elite and he never quite got there. he has always tried to prove and in politics recently in this election, always tried to prove that this election was legitimate, it's the reason why he doesn't want to admit that russia meddled in our elections. but this is a lifelong trait for donald trump and what -- >> he's won.

he's president of the united states. >> exactly. >> he's the most powerful person on the planet. >> but in his mind he still has so much to prove because the 33% are only supporting him. >> he does do this too because he wants to drag other people down to his level. so when he did the little marco thing, remember how marco rubio overreacted and actually kind of debased himself and so we already saw corker previous to the little thing, already starting to debase himself. this is what happens. people start getting pulled in to it. it actually does knock them off kilter. and that's i really think that's why he does it. >> it has another effect which is distracting. if you look at this interview which goes on quite a while, they talk to the president, at one point he says there's not much time left for diplomacy with north korea and the white house this evening puts out a statement that the president met with his military advisers and went to plans to respond to north korea attack or to act

preemptively against the north korean threat which is a very serious thing. it goes right to the heart of what the substance of what senator corker was talking about, but the president's use of the iq thing and calling him little corker, little bob corker, has the effect of making everybody not talk about the substance of the discussion. >> i think -- i'll give you some observations from the heartland. i think there's a lot of people in this country that the president has appealed to who feel like they're made to feel like they're not smart on any given day by some jerk boss, holiday, media, washington people. they make them feel like you're not smart enough or good enough and sometimes the president says things that they wish they could say but they can't and so on this iq thing when he says, you know, i'm smart. i think sometimes people believe he's channelling some of the feelings they have but they can do nothing about it but he sort of speaks for them and so he comes back to this iq thing a

lot and -- >> i always look to billionaires to speak for me when i'm down trodden. >> i think scott is absolutely right and that was the brilliance of how he actually got elected but let's realize everything that we just said whether it's bullying, whether it's distracting because of north korea, because he doesn't want to admit that russia meddled in our elections that he's insulting other people. we're talking about the president of the united states and that, i think, is the bottom line of why so many people now like bob corker are concerned. >> i think scott does have a point about his supporters. i was just at a republican party event in arkansas and like -- a real base event. what i heard over and over again, was, you know, he's not politically correct, he just -- he's just, you know, too honest. now, the question is, what percent of the population that group is? i have no doubt that they are

strongly supportive of him. whether that's enough to persuade congress to do things much less for him to get re-elected that's a problem he's facing now. >> when we sit here -- we all go nuts about these things, there is a group of people in this country who when he does these things and he gets spun up, he's telling the country or the media people in this country to go to hell and i kind of like it and that's how they view it. >> it's called cultural degradation. we live in a society that's reality tv show. this is not the way the country should be. i actually think you're right. i think you're right and i think it's a problem. >> let's take a break. we'll continue this discussion. we got more discussions. later, with all the accusers coming forward, all the sexual misconduct from harvey

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little marco, lying ted cruz, rocket man and poke ahonta is not happy. she's not happy. she's the worse. i call them little marco. lying ted cruz, lying ted cruz, crooked hillary, crooked hillary clinton. >> jeb bush is a low energy person. he's very low energy. >> back now with the panel. during the campaign it was effective because he would zero in on perceived weaknesses of jeb bush's low energy and so things would sort of stick and i get why he would do it during the campaign, i don't know that there's a strategy to do it now. it's just what he's gut reaction is. >> don't you think it's the same thing, the same idea, he thinks he's planting something, a, in the heads of person about the person and it's also he's trying to suck them into his game, which is to -- i think -- or he's just really juvenile or maybe all three things. i don't -- >> it's a branding strategy.

remember, close to 90% of the republican party approves of the job he's doing and great many of them take their cues about how they feel about policy and other politicians from how he feels, and so he wants to draw somebody in with a nickname, he's signaling to them i need you to view them the same as i do. >> he's not running against bob corker. >> he always needs an enemy. >> he may need an enemy but calling crooked hillary or lying ted cruz served his interests. to degrading and demeaning bob corker is at odds with his interests and so it's like an immediate, maybe there's some immediate satisfaction. over the long haul this is very dangerous territory for him if he wants to actually say get a tax bill through. >> you think it is? do you think -- would bob corker actually -- >> i don't think so. >> i'm not sure -- >> also -- >> would john mccain have killed health care reform if he had been nicer to him?

>> maybe. >> if it's on the bubble, if it's like -- i could go 50/50. >> you have toll remember that his interests -- i'm not defending what he's doing, his interest is that corker has said some pretty seriously bad things about him and so he wants people to think bad things about corker. he's trying to discredit the person whose criticizing him. i think there is a method to the madness. i don't think it's presidential, but -- >> so, yes, i think that's right and scott you are great at explaining trump but you have never said one way or the other whether you think what he's doing is good for the country, whether you think what he's doing is good leadership, not just for the country but even for the republican party, do you like what he's doing? do you think this is how a leader should act? >> in this particular case to the point about corker being a possible no vote on tax reform, i think the ball we should all be watching is tax reform was already teetering before this fight occurred. i'm not sure they have the votes for the budget resolution next week that they have to pass to get the tax reform.

corker's already expressed reservations about any tax package that adds to the deficit. >> it's just an artful way that you did not answer the question. >> you ought to run for office. >> thank you. >> my iq is enormous. i've had complaints. i've had complaints. >> good job. good job, little scott. >> you all just don't understand what he's been saying. >> we have to join mensa. >> it is also interesting, again, because kellyanne conway just yesterday was saying world leaders are watching and these are irresponsible tweets and then, you know -- >> that was astounding because that is one of the things that is so disturbing about this president and frankly, i've said this before, what corker is saying i think and we've all heard this and you all that report about this have heard this too, privately many republicans, not all of them, many republicans agree 100% with what corker has said.

they believe this president is unstable. they believe that the job of the people around the white house is to keep him from continuing to be unstable. god forbid to go for the nuclear codes when the leader of north korea pies him off and so again, do you think that is good leadership, scott. do you and the people who support him, do you support how he is acting right now? >> i don't support the breakdown of the relationships that he needs to pass an agenda -- >> i don't mean to pick on you but since we are. >> go ahead. >> it sounds like you're only concern is if donald trump misbehaves and it stops donald trump from passing donald trump's agenda and i think that is a problem but there's a larger problem is that donald trump is destroying norms. >> yes. >> that could impact democracy and this country like ongoing. are you concerned about those? >> number one, i think you're being a little dramatic. number two -- >> i don't think so. >> i don't think he is. >> i think -- i want donald trump to pass his agenda because

it's the agenda that not only he ran on but virtually the entire republican party ran on and failure to pass repealing health care and now tax reform, people don't understand the political implications of this. the failure, the stink of failure, will stick with the republican party -- >> backup, scott. for somebody who supports the president's agenda, you are one of the few people who in the past has repeatedly pointed out when you disagree with something the president has done on style or whatever. what you often say i want the president's agenda to pass, i wish he will wasn't doing this. so i give you big props for -- >> he does things that i would not do and he does things that make some people uncomfortable and certainly make me uncomfortable but at the end of the day as a republican party, what's the purpose of a party if not to pass some agenda that you ran on? and so right now he's destroying possibly -- >> right, he is destroying a lot

that this country stands for so at what point do you draw the line? at what point do republicans get to where corker is to say enough is enough? >> i think scott has a point. if we were able to do real tax reform that would stimulate the economy. i'm a conservative guy. i'm a free market guy. i think that would obviously be good. that's an important thing to me and i wish that donald trump could get -- >> is he setting the ground work for that? >> i don't think that's the only thing. that's an immediate political goal but there's also a larger point about political norms and preserving -- what i would call it conservative, you know, world view. >> how about just leadership? >> the bigger problem with corker may be that corker has said he's not going to vote for any tax bill that increases the deficit. >> um-hum. >> and every one says that this tax bill will greatly increase the deficit. now republicans tend to only care about deficits when democrats are president, but it is true that this is a big

problem independent of the whole insulting business. >> you're raising a greater point about our culture. >> yes. >> did our culture give us president trump or did president trump give us our culture? i would argue that american culture has been going in this sort of direction for a long time and he is the result of that, not the cause of it, and we're going to need to get used to it because my prediction is we're going to see politicians like this in both parties for the foreseeable future. >> god help us. >> we need to take a quick break. there's breaking news. the obamas and hillary clinton weighing in on explosive allegations against harvey weinstein. plus audio of him pressuring a woman in a hotel suite. next. oh, that's really attached. that's why i rent from national. where i get the control to choose any car in the aisle i want, not some car they choose for me.

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breaking news in the harvey weinstein scandal. the list of his accusers keeps growing. gwyneth paltrow and angelina jolie both say they were harassed. 13 more women accusing of sexual assault or harassment. three of them accuse weinstein of forcing them into sex. the woman speaking to weinstein, a model, they're at a hotel. in it you'll hear weinstein actually admit to groping her. >> what do we have to do here? >> nothing. i've got to take a shower. you sit there and get a drink. >> please, i swear i won't. just sit with me. don't embarrass me in the hotel i'm here all the time. >> please come in now and one minute. if you want to leave when the guy comes --

>> why yesterday you touch my breast? >> please come in. >> the tape was handed over to the district attorney in manhattan. the d.a. told us today that the recording is horrifying but it was insufficient to prove a crime had occurred. also tonight reaction to the scandal from president obama with weinstein being a top democratic donor, former president released this statement. michelle and i have been disgusted by the recent reports of harvey weinstein. nil man who demeans and degrades women in any fashion needs to be condemned. we should celebrate the courage of women who come forward to tell these painful stories and we all need to build a cul turl by empowering our girls and teaching our boys decency and respect. hillary clinton also released a statement today. quote, i was shocked and appalled by the revelations about harvey weinstein. the behavior described by women coming forward cannot be tolerated. their courage and the support of others is critical in helping to stop this kind of behavior. back with the panel joining us as well as media correspondent

brian stelter. this was for hillary clinton this was like five days after "the new york times" broke the story and there was growing pressure about, you know, she's a big democratic donor, there's -- he's been a big democratic donors, photographs of them together. did it take her too long? >> i think that it did. i know jeffrey was saying timing doesn't matter that much but when you are -- it's not just that she's a democrat, she's a major force in the world for women's rights and as somebody that a lot of women look up to and this is somebody that she was associated with but even if she hadn't been associated with him, i think she should've said something. it's not clear to me why it took so long and it wasn't even her statement. it was put out by her press secretary and she retweeted it. it wasn't even -- i don't understand why the day this came out she wasn't on twitter condemning it. it doesn't make any sense to me. >> had he been a republican, would it have been a different story? would the criticism -- >> i don't know. i think the bigger problem for both the clintons and the obamas

was their embrace of him previously. this was not a huge surprise. seth macfar lane made a joke about him preying on accidents in the 2013 oscar nominations. it was that well-known that he was a bore if not a criminal and the fact that the clintons and the obamas embraced him i think is a dark mark on their record and whether they issued a criticism, you know, today or two days ago, i don't think that matters. i think what matters is that they were so close to him in the first place. >> it's interesting, though, the perception of him would have been before that oh, he was sleazy, he was using the casting couch -- >> the casting couch is sexual harassment. >> it goes beyond just harassment it seems like in many cases. years ago and i don't -- maybe there has been some sort of a shift, hopefully, but i think years ago maybe in hollywood it was just seen as he's a boar or

gross or per vert. it seems like criminal behavior. >> this does raise an interesting side point, which could get me in trouble, so obviously he's accused of rape. that's obviously a black and white issue, right? groping is obviously wrong. threatening, quid pro quo, if you don't do this -- those are obviously like criminal and evil things to do. >> oh, god there's going to be a but and you're going to regret saying it. >> however, however -- so he denies any unwanted sexual contact, at least for now. we should say that. i guess my question is, what are the rules? what are the rules? because if you are a -- if you are a powerful man, if you're a boss, he called these by him, by the way, colleagues. i don't know if they're colleagues or suborder natures but what are the rules? >> are you really asking that? >> did you listen to that tape?

>> of course, that is. let me tell you what i'm getting at, if you are a powerful man in this country, you're a celebrity or whatever, are you -- let's say you're not married. are you louled to hit on younger women -- >> no, no. >> you're not? >> not -- not if they are -- not if they are your suborder natures. >> in the olden days. >> we're not in the olden days. we're not in the olden days. >> is this a trump defense? >> it has weird unintended consequences. >> let's hear. >> doctors marry nurses and lawyers married clerks and that was part of social mobility and it less income and equality, doctors -- i'm asking -- >> we're in the 20th century. >> if you're in ledge and you are want to be an actress and this person is dangling a script over your head or suggesting perhaps oh, i can get you in a move vai if you do this. >> that's quid pro quo. >> he's asking for samanthas.

he's exposing themselves to them. >> i'm not defending -- >> there's not even one incident where he was courting somebody. that's not what he's doing. he's clearly harassing them. >> he was hitting on them. he was committing sexual assault. >> just the fact that you asked that question is actually -- is actually -- no, no, no, no, it's not. it's disturbing -- it's disturbing that you -- you would know in a situation like that, i hope what to do and what not to do so why are you asking the question? >> i'm not sure all men do know what the rules are. >> that's a good point. there's a broad cultural problem that people don't understand -- no, it's not that people don't understand. there's just too much of an acceptance of sexism and misogyny in our culture. i'm going to say this as somebody who watched a lot of people revere hugh hefner very recently. somebody who made his life out of objectifying women and who

viewed women as objects in the same way that harvey weinstein viewed women as objects. i know people will come back and say he was a big free speech advocate or he published wonderful literally but if he hadn't put women in bunny costumes and naked women in magazines, we never would be talking about him. we live in a cultural that demeans women to the point that you, matt, don't understand what's the problem here? >> i think you're being hard on matt. >> i want to make a point about the liberal bias. >> matt, you can respond. we'll take a quick break. two big stars paltrow and jolie speaking out. we'll have more of that ahead. you nervous? ♪ ♪

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least have portrayed themselves as arbiters of morality where a lot of liberals have, hey, man, we do want we want to do so they don't have the hypocrisy angle p. if it's ted kennedy in chap kwid dic, woody allen, what about bill clinton. there was a journalist who said, i won't repeat exactly what she said, but she basically suggested that she would do something to bill clinton as long as he kept abortion legal. so i do think that liberals and democrats were held to a different standard partially because of the hypocrisy issue but partial because the perception was they have the right idea. >> weinstein was playing on that in his earlier statement where he said, i'm going to go away and focus my anger on the nra which just seems -- i mean -- >> but no one in the liberal world gave him an ounce of

support when he said that. he has been completely rejected. this absurd attempt to -- and, you know, we've managed to have this conversation about sexual harassment in powerful people. is there any one in public life now who is prominent who has succeeded despite admitting to sexual assault of women? the president of the united states. >> thank you. >> what about him? i think it's -- it's shameful, it's too bad that hillary clinton didn't issue this statement 72 hours earlier. how about getting elected president of the united states after you admit -- >> thank you. thank you. >> don't insult me. don't insult me. >> i was going to interrupt. >> i think that is a very significant point about where we are as a country, that you can get elected president of the united states after admitting sexual assault. >> and president obama statement tonight san implicit critique of

trump. when obama says any man who demeans or degrades women should be condemned and be held accountable. he's talking about the president of the united states. i know that it's interesting to talk about clinton and obama, but the biggest, the biggest sinner here is harvey weinstein, let's be clear about that and the biggest ongoing issue is not bill clinton with all due respect, it's donald trump. >> and the thing is, is that you talked about bill clinton and i'm so glad you brought up donald trump because that is the biggest hypocrisy. you have republicans who are demanding that hillary say something, who are demanding that obama said something. so they said something. but democrats are not going to elect harvey weinstein president of the united states. so i think what we have to do -- >> plenty of people gave him awards and embraced him -- >> and took his money. >> i agree and i think that's disgusting and, you know, democrats -- the democrats who are in office now who had his money are now going to give it back and that's the right thing to do. at the end of the day,

republicans to be criticizing democrats for supporting harvey weinstein when they elected the president of the united states, looked away after the "access hollywood" tape. >> do you think the -- >> if it's possible. i don't even know that those accounts exist or if that is money that is even there. that's why the democrats who are in office now and the committees who have taken his money recently, they are all giving it back. >> the democrat national committee give it to other democratic committees. >> you know what, scott, we didn't elect a sexual predator president of the united states. >> you didn't in the '90s? >> was he a self-professed grabber? >> did he or did he not get impeached. he paid for it. >> this is a filthy disgusting story. we have to find something good to take out of it and here's what i think. this is going to possibly inspire and rip the lid off who

else out there in hollywood is engaging in this conduct. there's like this eye opening tweet storm from the actor terry cruz tonight who was groped recently apparently at a party by a male hollywood executive. he didn't out the executive but he said i need to tell this story so the guy knows who he is and he stops doing it. how many more people are going to come forward? if the the net result of this is that weinstein gets what he deserves and other people are inspired to come forward and the culture is cleaned up that would be at least some positive outcome. >> scott, much more important part of the story than who donated to who, this is a profound cultural shift in america, thank goodness it's happening versus a decade ago or two decades ago. >> who says it's happening? >> i see it happening, roger ailes, bill o'reilly, these men were accused decades ago and you don't stay in your job. >> unless you're president of the united states. >> it would be progress, frankly, if we didn't do what just happened here which is everybody went to their corners

and, you know, we have to pretend like bill clinton wasn't accused of sexual assault, which he was. >> and he was impeached, by the way. >> he was for monica, there were other accusations and if we believe all rape accusations should be believed then there's some serious ones against bill clinton. we have to stop politicizing it. it has to be -- it's not -- yes, donald trump did bad things. that doesn't mean hirl's off the hook either. we have to treat them all the same way. >> that's a good point to end it on. thank you, everybody. breaking news also in the las vegas shooting aftermath. a live report from the utter devastation on the california fire alarms. we'll be right back. get 4 unlimited lines for just $40 bucks each. taxes and fees included. and now netflix included. so go ahead. binge on us.

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details. what's going on? >> reporter: we've been asking questions of mandalay bay and they're own mgm resort. the spokesperson sending out this statement after this new timeline was put out by the sheriff yesterday. she says, we cannot be certain that the most recent timeline that has been communicated publicly and we believe what is currently being expressed may not be accurate. that is the view of the mgm resorts which owns the mandalay bay. they're now questioning authorities' timeline, this is now the second timeline that we have all gotten and this certainly is due to one very important part of that change and that has to do with the mandalay bay's own security guard, who in the beginning police had said went up to the 32nd floor and ended up interrupting the shooter as he pointed his gun and shot down 32 floors down to the concert below killing so many and injuring so many more. now, yesterday, the sheriff's department came out and said, wait a minute, that is now

revised. we now think that the person that went up there, the security guard, jesus compost actually was shot a full six minutes before the shooter actually decided to start engaging on those concert goers and that's a big gap in time, the full six minutes after the security guard was shot that the shooter began shooting and creating this mass chaos down there at the concert. and now the mgm coming out ask saying we don't believe that's accurate. now, we have heard from law enforcement since then as you might imagine. law enforcement telling us they are indeed pretty sure it's accurate, and they are going to stick with that with the facts they now have. anderson. >> there's more breaking news as well. wildfires across orange county. at least 15 people have died.

>> reporter: from northern to southern california more than a dozen wildfires still burning out of t out of control. >> trying to get out of here. we saw it burning across the road. >> reporter: flames tore through parts of santa rosa, california, turning cars and subdivisions into ash. >> screaming, fire, fire, fire, get out. >> cars and harlies and boats and all kind of stuff all gone. >> reporter: fast food restaurants and everything destroyed. alice is seeing her parent's house for the first time. >> they're 85 years old, and i don't know if they can rebuild. i mean so many family hair looms i thought i would inherit someday, this is what i would pass down to my kids. i can't.

>> reporter: hospital in the area evacuated, flames turning several subdivisions into piles of debris. >> all of your life savings and work over the years is gone. >> reporter: more than 115,000 acres have burned. much of it in napa and sonoma counties. seeing what they could salvage. even their safe couldn't survive the heat. >> since we lived here for ten years, i never thought santa rosa would have a fire like this and we would lose everything. >> reporter: fires in anaheim have lit up the skies over walt disney land. hurricane force winds push the flames so fast firefighters couldn't keep up. >> on the eastern flank last night we tried to go direct in a couple of different places and we got out run by the fire. >> reporter: fire chief tom welsh's own home in santa rosa burned. >> the fires are still out there

and brewing. >> resources continue to be limited. there's folks not available to come in with so many fires in the area. >> reporter: authorities have begun identifying the victims. they include an elderly couple, the husband 100 years old, the wife 98 years old, charles and sarah rippy of napa, california. anderson, you can see the ashes behind me. and this fire here in santa rosa, california is still 0% contained. >> coming up, its going to make you smile at the endf a difficult day. the ridiculous is next. we'll be right back. time no,

and tonight we can all sleep well knowing that the president of united states thinks he's smarter an his secretary of state. he said this to forbs regarding rex tillerson calling him a moron. quote, i think it's fake news, but if he did that, i guess we'll have to compare iq tests and i would win.

>> what's the secretary's iq? >> it's high. anybody that can put things together -- >> you don't have a -- >> it's high. >> once again from the briefing room the white house press secretary said the president did not say what he said, but she also threw in a free comedy lesson. >> it president didn't imply the president was not intelligent. he made a joke. again, he wasn't questioning the secretary's intelligence. he made a joke. maybe you guys should get a sense of humor and try it sometime. >> oh, it's a joke. knock knock, who's there? iq test. iq test, who? yeah, i don't get it. in fact we pulled together a highlight reel of all his best

jokes. yeah, there aren't any. i ask you was it more likely he was making his first joke in 71 years or he was continuing this pattern. >> they say is donald trump an intellectual? trust me, i'm like a smart person. i'm like a smart person. i'm really smart, really, really smart. when you're really smart, like really, really smart like i am -- my iq is much higher than tlerz. i have a very good brain. i know words, i have to best words. but there's no better word than stupid. >> just my own little life lesson, when you're really smart, you don't need to say you're really smart. there's this, quote, american mensa would be happy to hold a testing session for president trump and secretary tillerson. i would totally watch that. unlike the president, i don't

know who would win. but if it's possible one of the contestants wouldn't go know-how to spell the word little. there's some other jokes where he can't spell. honored, here by, healing, principal. the list goes on and on. i don't want to skew the results, but the president might want to warm up with a closed door white house-only spelling be before he enters the competitive world of pay-per-view. time to turn things over to don lemon. "cnn tonight" starts right now. president trump lashing out in a not at all prejudice way after a top republican says he is setting us on a path towards world war iii. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. and this is some of the things the president has talked or tweeted today, suggesting he'd like to