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of behavior, and if so why did it take so long to become public. we have all the angles covered. >> yeah, i mean, the allegations seem to be mounting by the hour. it grows. more people are really trying to separate themselves from weinstein. his name has been dropped from the credits of shows he has produced like "project runway," and the board he co-founded may change its name by the end of this week. >> the board saying they had no knowledge of the explosive allegations, calling the claims an utter surprise, this despite wide-spread rumors that his sexual abuse is the worst kept secret in hollywood. >> congratulations, you five
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ladies no longer have to pretend to be attracted to harvey weinstein. >> five actresses have come forward. paltrow telling "the new york times" saying when he was 22 a meeting suggested they head to the bedroom for massages. ashley judd said he greeted her in a bathroom, asking if he could watch her shower. and he went to the bathroom and came back out in a robe and asked me to give him a massage, and i said i didn't feel comfortable. he said everybody does it. >> two other women were counting
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stories on cnn last night. >> and said, at least if you won't give me a massage, then can i see your breasts. >> he told me he would give me a three-picture deal and get my movie made, and i don't doubt that he could, but he said but you have to stay and watch me masturbate. >> disturbing audio from a police sting involving weinstein and a model. he attempts to lure her into his hotel room before admitting he groped her the day before. >> i am feeling uncomfortable right now. >> why did you touch my breast? >> just, come on, i am used to that. >> the manhattan district attorney's office says while the recording is horrifying to listen to, what emerged from the
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audio was insufficient to prove a crime according to new york law. >> raising more than $1 million for democrats since the '90s. clinton condemned weinstein after days of silence, saying the behavior described by women coming forward cannot be tolerated. weinstein's wife announced she's leaving her husband. the couple have two children together. and weinstein says he's head into rehab. >> joining us now is somebody who says she was sexually
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harassed by weinstein. she said he invited her over to read a script, he tried to pressure her to take off her clothes claiming she would have to do that for a movie role and today she's a psychology professor researching sexual object faction. >> there were not a lot of opportunities in my life to find what phone number i was supposed to call and tell what happened to me. i kept thinking, who would care? so when i read "the new york times" article on thursday i thought this was my first opportunity to tell my story and the whole arc of my story, of
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course, includes that i ended up becoming somebody committed to studying and writing the wrongs of sexual aobjectification. >> had you told anybody? when it happened, back in 1984, had you ever discussed it? >> oh, yes. i got out of this apartment and i ended up going to a pay phone and calling my then boyfriend at the time, and a bunch of college students were pursuing internship-style dreams that summer, and over the years, as you might imagine, there are not a lot of opportunities the say
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something like the casting caption is real, and certainly over -- oh, it has been 33 years, it's hard to imagine, but there have been several friends that i confided this happened to me. it's hard. you need to find the right audience and feel safe that somebody is going to believe you. >> i do think there's something really instructive, particularly in this story, how many women at the time did tell people. basically, everybody -- all of the people who had an experience with harvey weinstein did tell their boyfriend or parents or anybody that would listen, but as you pointed out so well there's no magical hotline to call when something like this happens to you and tell an authority. >> yeah, and isn't that the structural systemic support for the idea that, well, men will be men and women's primary --
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especially young women's primary stock and trade, the thing they can and cannot use to trade to get something is their sexualized bodies. the collusion is so astonishing, and it's because people like my parents thought who are we to say anything? and in other cases i think we really ought to hold accountable, some fellow executives and fellow powerful people that perfectly, voluntarily, exited hotel rooms because it was mr. weinstein's turn to have a private meeting with a young actress. >> as we know today, 16 former and current executives and assistants at weinstein's companies said they witnessed or had knowledge of unwanted sexual advances and touches that he was responsible for. the collusion you are talking
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about, it does require for people to be in on it. if you are setting up appointments at a hotel room when somebody can be in a bathtub when people show up, people have to tend to know about those things. >> that's why i am so proud of paltrow saying this way of treating women stops now, because that statement invites all of us to participate inputting our foot down and saying no, and to recognize in small and big ways we're part of this problem. >> i want to ask you about that, because you are the perfect person, not only did this happen to you, the incident then colored your career path. you then chose to go into psychology to study sexual objectification, and why this
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happens, and so what is the answers? >> i think as a psychologist, i'm just so fascinated, and of course, disheartened by the ways in which we start training young girls early on to self objectifiy, to have a view of themselves of how pretty and sexual you are, and once you internalized that, it's a call tphauization, if you will. weinstein can coerce and intimidate via that internalized fe feeling, and then your internalized feeling is it's how pretty i am, and that aspect of
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myself is the tool i have to use to get this part. it's almost chilling to think how this kind of behavior requires a sort of internalization of shame and a desire to be considered somebody whose value is how sexy and pretty you are. >> i want to interrupt, because one of the things i was struck by is what you did, and so many other women did, if women were able, they did stand their ground. people said i am not comfortable with that and i will not do that, and you did that. you said i am not comfortable taking off my clothes, even for the part you are promising me. >> absolutely. i look back on the 20-year-old i was then, and i am not sure -- there was some quiet voice inside of me that whispered get out now, and i will confess that
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i was very polite about it, and i apologized, and i took it upon myself that i was not cool enough or courageous enough to do something like this, and it took me a long time it was a sick power play, that was me being coerced to do something demeaning. i got myself out of there by talking my way out. >> thank you very much for sharing your story and all that you have learned about this subject matter. thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. >> chris. we're watching the fires in california, the death toll up to 17. northern california is burning out of control in places. evacuations in place. more ordered. more than a dozen wildfires
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reducing parts of that state's wine country to ashes. we are also getting a look at how fast this fire spread. take a look at the video. it was shot by a sonoma county sheriff's deputy. he is supposed to be doing checks to see where the fire is, and god forbid anybody is still in their homes after this. ryan young is live in santa rosa, california. thank god you were not in that car. hopefully they are keeping you and the crews safe. what is making this fire so hard to contain? we're days in and still 0% contained. >> reporter: yeah, when you look at this, this looks like a war zone. when you talk about police officers, they are still out here in force right now because, chris, one thing we have not talked about all morning is the fact that looters have been showing up to homes that have been devastated by this fire. i want to show you this as we walk around here. we have been looking at homes
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like this one, this entire neighborhood is gone, and it's hard to make out anything in the homes, and the only thing we can make out in this one is a washer and drier in the distance there. 17 people dead, and this chilling fact, 183 people missing. they don't believe all those people are dead. they believe some of them might be out of communication because there are major cell phone issues in this area. then you have to think about another 20,000 people who had to evacuate their homes to get away from the fast-moving fire. at one point the winds, 50 miles per hour. there were hurricane-force winds with the fire added to it. when we drove around here, the utter devastation was unbelievable to the eye. they are hoping today to get a hold on some of this, but more heavy wind could be on the way. this could be another long day especially for the firefighters who are trying to knock this fire down. >> be safe and thank you for the
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coverage. joining us is the mayor of napa. thank you for joining us. >> yes. glad to talk with you. >> it's really early and we are trying to get the word out there so the people can be connected to the need that is going to take place in napa and the surrounding areas. you have ever seen a fire like this? >> no, no. we had a fire 35 years ago up on atlas peak, so about the same area the fire started in this time, but they had it under control within three or four days and this is still not under control. >> first, let's tong about the threat to life here. how concerned are you that you don't know whether or not everybody is safe in these areas? >> it's a big concern. people are still looking for people, and there are still areas in the county where they
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have not been able to get up the roads to make sure there were not people that were trapped. that weight is heavy on us. >> we know you had a chopper out there early on and dozens of people being removed from their homes, and people are losing their lives. this heartbreaking story, this couple, they were 100 and 98, and they could not get out of their home in time. what a heartbreaking story. >> yes, long time residents. i was able to talk to one of the helicopter operators and his staff had been involved with the rescue. he said it was amazing they got the 41 people off that mountain and to safety. the fire started -- i got a phone call on sunday night at 10:30 saying there's a fire near
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the country club, and people did not have very long to decide to get in their cars and to get off the mountain and where it's safe. the fire is still not under control but we are able to watch it. we have 500 crews here, and we have got the california department of forestry here managing the fire. last night we had evacuation notices up at the veteran's home, and you talk about elderly and we wanted to make sure they would be safe. they got the really frail out of the veteran's home, and then the fire changed directions and they didn't need to evacuate the whole home. we are set up with buses and everything we need to do if we get the call that a part of napa needs to be evacuated. >> when you think napa you think wine, and with this type of danger, you have to worry about loss of life. we'll figure out what it means
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to the wine country after people are out of harm's way. thank you very much for joining us. please see us as a resource, and even though it's early we have people watching on the west coast as well. >> thank you very much. >> okay. alisyn. should all of us take an iq test today? the latest from the white house, next. just like some people like banging their head on a low ceiling. drinking spoiled milk. camping in poison ivy. getting a papercut. and having their arm trapped in a vending machine. but for everyone else, there's directv. for #1 rated customer satisfaction over cable switch to directv. call 1-800-directv. your body was made for better things than
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the white house says the president was joking when he challenged tillerson to an iq test, but a source says that's not the case. >> reporter: i don't know if you can call it damage control but they are trying to clean it up over here at the white house after the president launched that controversy over comparing his iq to his secretary of state in an interview in "forbes" magazine. >> he was not questioning the secretary of state's intelligence, he made a joke. maybe you guys should get a sense of humor and try it sometime. >> white house press secretary, sarah sanders, downplaying president's latest jab insisting the president was kidding when he boasted about having a higher iq than tillerson.
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but it's not the first time president trump has used such a line. >> i guarantee my iq is much higher than any of these people. >> i want to match my iq with some of those guys, with all of them. >> a source close to the white house said he was not joking but spouted off because he was angry it was public that tillerson called the president a moron, and he dismissed suggestions he tried to undermine him. >> i didn't undercut anybody. i don't believe in undercutting people. >> this has the president continues to call the tennessee republican little bob corker after he criticized the president. >> sometimes i think he's a reality show of some kind. we could be heading towards world war iii with the kinds of comments he's making. >> senator corker is certainly
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entitled to his own opinion, but he's not entitled to his own facts. >> refusing to say if corker should resign? >> that's a decision for corker and the people of tennessee to decide, not us. >> i don't think it's particularly helpful. i think phoegs people don't care what two politicians think of each other, so i hope we can move on. >> today the kcanadian prime minister will be at the white house, and after that the president is expected to head out to pennsylvania where once again he's expected to launch a pitch on his tax cut plan. back to you. >> all right, joe, the tax cut plan is going to be a huge measuring stick for voters, especially for those who voted
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for trump. let's bring in our panel, ron brownstein, and author of "the point," chris cillizza. ron, we don't care whether the iq test was serious or a joke, but we care about the stability of the people that corker says are the buffer between us and chaos. what do you think the stability is of the secretary of state? >> i think you put your finger in the right place. we know the president for both political reasons and seemingly psychological reasons enjoys and is drawn to and is compelled to undertake a series of feuds around him. you can get wrapped around that and lose sight of what we are dealing with. we had the secretary of state apparently call the president a moron after a meeting in which
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we now know the prompt was a demand for a massive increase in nuclear capacity. even more importantly, chris, i think to describe what is going on between the chairman -- the republican chair of the senate foreign relation committee, and i am unaware of a senate foreign relations committee questioning the basic competence of the president of their own party and saying by temperament they are so reckless and volatile, they are a threat to the nation and the world, and that's being lost in lindsay graham saying stop the war of words. the focus needs to be on assessing that basic judgment and whether other republicans privately agree with what he
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said. >> but this did not open the flood gates as some people predicted it might. if people feel this way in the halls of congress but they are not saying it, and they are hoping, fingers crossed, the agenda will happen, tax cuts and et cetera, and that's what we are waiting for? >> i tend to think the first nine months of the administration, trump will just green light everything. i think it's more decision making. it's not a coincidence that the one senator willing to hit at the real questions, stability and competent tensce, and the o person willing to do that in the senate also happens to be somebody who is retiring from the senate. donald trump is not broadly
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popular in this country, and where he remains sort of a big figure is in the republican base in a primary, in a mid-term election, in wyoming or mississippi, or any of these other places we know steve bannon is trying to recruit candidates, being against the president in a very public way is damaging. i will give you one example. jeff flake. jeff flake is touted as a hero to many republicans privately, and jeff flake's numbers in arizona are terrible after he took on president trump. it may well lose a primary if he runs for re-election. you can look at that and say flake is a hero. he may be a here kpwroe out of a job in a year or so and it depends on what you want to come down on what real leadership means, and that's the reason you have lot of them staying quiet. >> you have the politics and then the why do people care? the reason to rebut senator
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graham's presumption that people don't care about disagreeing politicians, but they care about progress. this was a mandate election, which was help us in the middle class and the desperation is real and trump says he recognizes it and will help us. the tax plan looms large, and that's where it comes home to roost for the president of the united states. how does he get that done? they can say the first draft was filled with things that don't deliver on his promise by definition? >> with all due respect to senator graham, it's not just a war of words, it's a questioning of the competence of the president. it potentially affects the daily lives of people all over the world. the tax issue, i think, kind of presents the same similar challenge as health care. you have a president elected as a populist outsider, and uses
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cultural issues to define himself of the champion of americans. on the health care bill, he embraced a tax plan that is a much more conventional american blueprint, the vast majority, even raising taxes on a substantial portion of the upper middle class. i think that the challenge of kind of navigating a bill with that distribution through congress will be formidable and will be a way of holding the voters as part of the agenda. >> remember, health care is instructive of another way, remember when trump would sit down with the republican senators and what did they all come out saying privately? he doesn't know anything about the policy.
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obamacare is bad. theoretically as a business guy he knows more about tax policy, but they will run into the same problem, they will do it because he tells them to do it. >> thank you very much. we are seeing more and more women coming out and saying harvey weinstein harassed me or worse. he's the latest example of an executive accused of abusing his power? will there be anything that changes after this? we'll discuss that next. how do we say that this fall,
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great to have all of you and all of your experience here with us this morning. nancy, let me start with you because this does feel like we have seen this movie before, this does really, i think, smack with similarities between what happened with roger ailes, a man that feels entitled to do whatever he wants with the people under him, and in roger ailes' case it was the women. you don't know the flood gates are going to open the day before they open, and the day before the dam breaks you feel like it's going to go on forever and then the dam breaks. >> the dam breaks because we break the silence and secrecy. it's the secrecy that allows it to happen. you and many people have been forced in our country to sign away their rights to a public jury trial, so that harassers harass in secret and harass
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again and the victims are the ones forced to be quiet. when we are quiet we don't know there are other victims. the flood gates open because we are not alone. we can come out and we have sisters and feel more protected. a free press, public awareness and the end to secrecy is a way to end this. >> that's why you call out hillary clinton and obama, it's not because they are implicated in what harvey weinstein did, it's because every leader needs to step up immediately and that's how you change culture. i want to inject somebody else into the conversation, terry cruz, a big star and a big guy. you should read his twitter thread. he has a dozen tweets about something that happened to him where he says that he was groped at a hollywood function. >> let me read two of them. this whole thing of harvey weinstein is giving me ptsd, why? this happened to me.
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my wife and i were at a hollywood function and a hollywood executive came over to me and groped my praoeivates. he had to make a decision, and he decided as a black man and as a man this was not going to work out for him so he decided to just leave. should this be part of the conversation? >> absolutely. if slavery are the united states's original sin, patriarchy is society's original sin. when you see the imbalance of power where 50% of the population who are women have so little equity in all of these, whether it's hollywood or college campuses or the catholic church, you see how it manifests itself, and it is not only to women. in that moment terry cruz had to
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negotiate violence and racism and sexism, and what would the headlines say in the morning? >> what if it were a white man? how would it change? >> i contend if it were a white men it would not have happened, and there's an ownership over black peoples' bodies, and he's able to grab him because he's, you know, that's a commodity. the black male bodies are much more of a commodity of a white male body. >> i will say several white guys that are guy who also had an experience, where a powerful mogul comes up and tries to do whatever they want with them. it does happen to men, too. it's about power. i think that sometimes we overlook the idea that it's about power. >> there's a different power
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imbalance. >> yeah, but it was very, very courageous of him. he's known for making his pecks dance. he's a lovely guy. if it can happen to him, imagine if you are a young actress. >> yeah, let's talk about what this means for harvey weinstein. some happened beyond the statute of limitations, and some didn't. >> he's checking himself into rehab for sex additio can he be prosecuted? >> oh, yeah. there could be criminal allegations made against him. what has been so troubling about this case, even as horrifically repulsive as the bill cosby allegation is, we have the big company, the weinstein company, and we have 16 employees that were in that new yorkers article
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that said he witnessed or had direct knowledge of this. under federal law these companies had an obligation to investigate claims of sexual harassment and they don't get to turn their heads or ignore it and they had an affirmative obligation to investigate sexual harassment and make the workplace safe for women and they failed in their obligation to do so. i am really disturbed about not just the individual conduct of harvey weinstein, which is repulsive, but the conduct of the people that were obligated by law to take action and they didn't. >> the law is often not enough, though, right? isn't that what we see here with the district attorney from manhattan, the tape we are hearing with the young actress in this really ugly conversation with harvey weinstein out in the hallway, that was part of a sting operation. it's not that easy to go after a corporation for an arbitration
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law, and it has to be more about culture than just law? >> we need both. the law should not allow the courts to give up our seventh amendment rights to a jury trial in order to work, and the law can make corporations take responsibility. most sexual assaults don't take place with a witness or the perpetrator on tape. i disagree that the reason that harvey weinstein wasn't prosecuted is because there was not enough evidence. >> what was it? >> powerful white men with a lot of juice get away with all kinds of stuff, in our criminal justice system. if it was a black man i believe he would have been prosecuted. >> but they have to prove intent, which is always hard to do under the law. >> a man forces himself to touch your breasts and then admits it
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on tape, that is assault? >> i hear your case. what i am saying is it's got to be more than the law -- >> i agree. >> you know if you are a po powerful man, you will not be protected. you will be called out, and it's not just about the victims because it puts too much pressure on the vulnerable. >> it's also the activism. you were saying women found a collective voice. look what happened in washington. the largest demonstration in history happened because women came together and said enough. we are continuing to do that. if you look at other hollywood figures, like ava do you have nay. women tend to be more inclusive, and the opposite is true with this male power. again, it's really this gross
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imbalance of power that we are now challenging, and women are not afraid because we have each other and twitter. >> i want to go back to you for a second. because you and gretchen successfully sued fox, and that started the house of cards falling of roger ailes very quickly, much like this harvey weinstein, how fast once it happens they go down. but you obviously have to, as you said, jump off a cliff and be willing to do that. for women out there who say how are you supposed to battle a powerful man if i don't have lots of money for a high-priced attorney. what is the answer today? >> the answer is go to an attorney and a lot of us aren't high priced. we get paid at the end when we succeed. and going to an attorney is essential. the other problem is hr is compromised. hr is often not your friend, they are your enemy and they will report and then help retaliate against you and in
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corporate and legal departments they are making people sign away their rights to speak in exchange for and give up their careers in exchange for some money. in these cases, $100,000? a poultry sum of money after you have been assaulted? it's really outrageous. we need corporate boards to take responsibility. we need corporate boards to have committees that hr and legal report to. >> with women on those boards. >> yes. >> and especially just in terms of corporate responsibility, and you were right to point out the federal guideline, but it's about the bite, and piercing the corporate veil attorneys know, and if you went after the people that knew what was going on, this would change a lot faster, true or no? >> it would change very quickly, chris. swift and severe consequences for the perpetrator and those
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that were complicit in covering it up. any corporate board member or executive turning your head the other way you too may face severe damages, but you also may face other penalties and that's the message we want women to know, come forward and speak up and hold people accountable in the jobs who are protecting these harassers so women can be safe in the workplace. that's the key thing here. >> on that note, thank you all very much for the great conversation. >> thanks. we will tell you about the sock around the soccer room. the u.s. men's team will not be in the cup for the first time in decades. what went wrong? >> nothing went right. my main focus was to find a team of doctors that work together. when a patient comes to ctca, they're meeting a team of physicians that specialize in the management of cancer.
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>> as you said, nothing good, chris. this bleacher report presented by the new ford 150. team usa had the fate of their future in their hands playing trinidad, and they have a population smaller than dallas and all the u.s. needed to do to advance was win or tie, as chris mentioned, just don't beat yourself, right? well, they did essentially that. this is an own goal. they score on their own goal. that contributed to the 2-1 defeat ending their run. it was one of the most embarrassing moments. we're going to hear more about the impact of that this morning. >> i have a lot more embarrassing moments in sports history but they are on home
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the rainstorms are so bad and washouts, there would be days we couldn't get back up to them, so those families would be dependant on that one box meal and six bottles of water, so from our perfective on the ground here that was clearly not enough and we tried everything possible to get more supplies. we didn't really know why the slowdown or not really much was trickling to this area, but we kind of put out a call to help for anybody to get anything to help them. >> sergeant, tell us who "we" is. you are not there with fema or the national guard? how do people help you help others? >> we are 13 veterans that volunteer. we have been to harvey irma and now maria in puerto rico. we just go to where the worst
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parts are in the disaster areas and start helping. >> how do people help you help others? >> for us it's getting us supplies. we are mainly focused on aquadilla. it's getting supplies to us. we understand puerto rico is an island and we understand it's difficult, but our main focus is taking care of the people here. >> sergeant, thank you so much for what you are doing. you are literally doing the lord's work. we will direct people to your facebook page. be safe and stay in touch. >> thank you, sir. appreciate it. >> alisyn, just more proof everybody down on the ground knows the reality. a lot needs to be done. meanwhile, "newsroom" with poppy harlow and john berman will pick up after this.
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