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cut. but when you look at what the team has assembled, the bull. k goes to the wealthy. this new angle from the white house is that, okay, that corporate tax relief will end up giving people a pay raise. >> this is bringing home money from overseas. he needs some strings attached. >> i have said that. if you're going to give a tax cut, put some strings on it. use it for infrastructure or wages or factories. don't let it go into the pockets of investors. thank you for joining us. >> "new day" starts right now. see you tomorrow. it's frankly it is frankly disgusting the way the press is able to write whatever they want to write. >> he he doesn't get to pull licenses because he doesn't like what's being said. >> he is increasingly angry over
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the coverage of his white house and crisis. sources believe the president is unable and unraveling. >> very early question of the president's own abilities. >> he exposed himself. and i just stood there kind of frozen. it is amazing how casual he was with that kind of encounter. >> there is a culture of fear in this company. >> this shines a bright light on this kind of behavior. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alyson camerota. >> welcome to our viewers around the united states and around the world. this is "new day". it is thursday, october 12th, 6:00 in the morning here in new york. here is our starting line. president trump escalating threats against america's free and inspect press suggesting that the federal government should use its power to shut down news networks whose coverage he disagrees with. that's actually what he asked
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for. let's not minutes words. this is obviously dangerous. it shows some type of lack of knowledge about how the institution and free press works and smacks of what we would hear from an auto krat. >> and what led secretary of state rex tillerson to call president trump a moron. the comment was made after a difficult and tense meeting in july. we're going to tell you what made the leader so frustrated with the president there. also, "vanity fair" is reporting several trump advisers fear that president trump is unraveling. and former chief strategist steve bannon reportedly gives the president a 30% chance of completing his first term. a scathing editorial calls on on congress to bar the president from launching a nuclear strike without a declaration of war without congress. let's begin with joe johns, live at the white house.
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good morning, joe >> reporter: good morning, alyson. the president has been completely up front about the fact that he gets irritated by negative news coverage. he has taken issues with stories, he's taken issue with news organizations. but he has never gone quite as far as he did yesterday, suggesting he's open to punishing a news network for unflattering coverage. >> it's frankly tkus gudisgusti way the press is able to write whatever they want to write. >> reporter: president trump tweeted news companies must be challenging. >> no. the press should speak more honestly. >> reporter: republican senator ben sasse firing back, mr. president, are you recanting the oath you took on january 20th to preserve, protect and defend the
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constitution of the united states. >> the republicans tend not to be as unified. the democrats stick together like glue. >> reporter: a stalled ledge shraeufrbg agenda and a new article describes the white house in crisis with advisers struggle to go contain a president who is unfocused. the reports cites two senior officials who say chief of staff john kelly is miserable but remaining in his post to keep mr. trump from making a disastrous decision. his deputy chief of staff was nominated to replace the post he vacated as homeland security secretary. one white house source telling cnn they don't see kelly remaining on the job for long without her and that he may have been giving her somewhere to land before he ultimately leaves. according to one of "vanity fair" sources, the former chief strategist steve bannon has said
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he thinks the president only has a 30% chance of making it through his full term. bannon reportedly telling the president that the main risk to his tenure is the 25th amendment to the constitution, which allows the cabinet to vote to remove him. the white house is disputing these accounts as the president denies any rift with secretary of state rex tillerson. >> we have a very good relationship. >> but making it clear that his own strategic opinion matters most when it comes to north korea. >> i think i have a little bit different attitude on north korea than other people might have. and i listen to everybody. but ultimately my attitude is the one that matters, isn't it? >> this as cnn hraerlearns that meeting prompted tillerson to call the president a moron back in july. defense employees were ashen at mr. trump's direct questioning of his commanders and lack of a
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knew answered world view. unable to get a health care bill through the congress at least so far, the president is expected to sign an executive action today that would begin weakening parts of obamacare. it is expected to instruct the agencies to start selling cheaper, less comprehensive policies. could be a boom for healthy americans but raise the cost for sick. >> joe johns, by the standard of presidential fairness, you didn't say enough positive things about the president. our ability to do this job may be in jeopardy. thank you, joe is. john avalon and gregory. so the reason that kind of like with the whole iq test thing, we don't really care about the joke. we care what it sheds light on and a larger sense of stability. we can't care if the president
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is angry at the president. we're comfortable with that. his lack of grasp how free speech works, the fcc, who it regulates. he's shy on that. his understanding on of afghanistan, his taking on the commanders, their concerns about what he understands about the world. it's not about what he says. it is is about why he is saying it, john. that raises the concern. >> basically you are saying the president is curious and ill informed despite having all the assess to the information. >> he gets into these situations with tillerson. >> this is someone who has access amounts to real-time information from definitional experts. that's what drives the cabinet, the white house, the staff sort of crazy. in particular about his latest attack on the free press. sit not about the media being defensive. there is a natural tension and
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everyone is should understand that. if he doesn't, it's on him. as republican senator ben sass t e said are you revoking your commitme commitment? it raises real stakes and questions of what we're talking about here. >> one more time let's read what the president tweeted. network news has become so partisan, and fake that licenses must be challenge spd, if appropriate, revoked. we are saouused to being his punching bag. >> he's conducted himself in public life for the past 30 years in about the same way. he has twitter at his disposal now.
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he was a frequent character of the tabloid press for years and years in new york city. i think this is just an extension of that. he looks for scapegoats. he's taking on the nfl, the media. these are all targets of opportunity for him to keep his base together, get people riled about free speech, take on free speech, political correctness. it is all the same diversion by the president month has real policy problems. he doesn't have is much of an agenda. he stdoesn't have much accomplishment. all he has is a fist and twitter account. >> he also has a you nuclear arsenal at his disposal. >> i get it. >> of course you get that. the point is trump is trump. he's a 73-year-old man. he is not going to change. the military responsibilities, that's what makes this a totally different dimension.
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there are countries, some of whose leaders he admired from russia to turkey, where licenses are revoked for having sufficiently positive coverage. we had a blip with nixon. this is making him look like a piker and that was a low moment. >> ultimately, nixon resigned. he did more than that. spying on people. violating the constitution. obviously we'll see what happens with this president. you know, lbj called cbs and told them to get on the team during coverage of vietnam. this is not unprecedented. but there is a tendency in the media to jump on this. clearly when he talks like this, he is unraveling. it is a diversion. it is obviously a serious thing that should be taken serious. >> you're right, of course.
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everything you're saying is right. it's just the context has changed a bit. i know what it is like to the get a call from donald trump not president trump because he doesn't like what you're saying. now he is president of the united states. there is so much he can do to enforce his own rage. that becomes the issue. it is not just for john. it is the "new york times". a very legitimate argument to be made that is epidemic about congress surrendering its constitutional authorities to presidents over decades. >> sure. >> certainly when it comes to declarations of war and use of military for. but this is a new spin from the "new york times". many have hoped, and still hope, that mr. trump's aggressive posture is mostly theater. but there is no underlying strategy to his loose talk, and whatever he means by it, congress has been sufficiently alarmed to consider legislation that would bar the president from launching first nuclear strike without a declaration of war by congress.
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it wouldn't take away the president's ability to defend the country." again, this is what i'm talking about, authorization of use of military force, duty to declare war. i know people are starting to go to sleep. but that kind of matters. it is what is motivating it, john. if he is going to talk this way, if he acts on such caprice, should he be allowed to have just his finger on the button? i know there is an argument about how the law works presently. but the "new york times" saying this is not just sour grapes. >> it is not. they will dismiss it simply because it is the new york tiles. here is one of the silver linings with donald trump. democrats are all of a sudden starting to fall in love with principal repbublicans in the past. things that formerly rand paul may have been howling in the
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wind about. should there be constraints on an executive whose has grown over the decades. you have some with incurious with poor impulse control which is the picture being painted from people in the white house. >> "vanity fair" has a scoop. he has sources who talk to steve bannon, former top adviser, how steve bannon thinks this will all end. "several months ago, according to two sources with knowledge of the conversation, former chief strategist told ban ton said it is the 25th amendment. a provision by which a majority of the cabinet vote to remove the president. when bannon mentioned the 25th amendment, he said what's that? he thinks trump has only a 30% chaps of making it the full term. so that is an interesting scenario by which it is possible
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to play on. >> absolutely. i think as disturbing as the president lashing out against the media and threatening the first amendment, and don't get me wrong. it should all be taken very seriously every time it's said is what's going on both within the white house and within the republican party generally, which is who is going to stand up to him and tell him that he has crossed the line. john kelly doesn't milwaukee it as chief of staff, we should all be really worried. because that means that the president conceded at some point to have discipline to determine he doesn't want that anymore. if he continues to sour all of his relationships with members of his top security team, you're talking about the president potentially making decisions that cost lives and don't just rattle the cages of the media.
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who is willing to stand up and say, hold on. you have gone way too far here. everybody is stepping back saying he is a little nuts. we will let this pass or look the other way. that has got to stop. having stalled agenda is not enough. you cannot be someone like the president of the united states who speaks like an authoritarian. it's time for the leaders who can really do something to stand up and do something about it. >> they have to stand up, be accounted for make the case why they believe the president is doing the right way and they're with him or otherwise. and the 25th amendment is presidential succession is. read section four. google and read section 4. that's what bannon is referring to. >> chris often gives us
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homework. >> it's something we need to know. thank you very much. we have to get to this breaking news. 23 dead, hundreds missing as wildfires are out of control in california. entire communities have been reduced to ash in just the past couple of days. thousands of homes and buildings have been destroyed there. there are additional warnings and mandatory evacuations ordered in two more counties, including napa. so at this point we know there are dozens of active fire. dry weather and winds are make it difficult for firefighters to battle all the deadly flames. new explosive allegations about harvey weinstein. more women. flood gates open. the reporter who broke some of the most startling details for the new yorker joins us next. when i look
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this sunday. here's a preview. >> i was just sick. i was shocked. i was appalled. it was something that was just intolerable in every way. you know, like so many people have come forward and spoken out, this was a different side of a person who i and many others had known in the past. >> would you have called him a friend? >> yes, i probably would have. and so would so many others. people in democratic politics for a couple of decades appreciated his help and support. and i think these stories coming to light now, and people who never spoke out before, having the courage to speak out just clearly demonstrates that this behavior that he engaged in
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cannot be tolerated and cannot be overlooked. >> he donated money to you directly and indirectly. would you give the money back? >> there is no one to give it back to. colleagues will say they will give it to charity. of course i will do that. i give 10% of my income every year to charity. >> joining us is the journalist who wrote "the new yorker" article that documented several women's agents accounts of harvey wine steep. when begin to scope how big this was going to be? >> this is a puzzle journalists have been going on for decades. this woman went fully on the record and telling a difficult story and saying there are other women here. and the moment i started asking about those women and they started telling their stories, one thing leads to another.
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>> what is your accepts sense o knew? alyson was talking about it yesterday in a way that was very insightful. he was in a meeting in a bathrobe in his hotel room. clearly inappropriate. what were you able to discover at affiliated entities, people that would send to these meetings knowing what harvey was about. how broad was that understanding. >> i don't want to be sensationalist. there were people who didn't know the details and plenty of them. however, 16 executives, former and current, talked to me and said we either saw something firsthand. we witnessed a pattern at meetings or were asked to participate in them and they were a little more than thin cover for predatory behavior. they talked about profound guilt many of them. they said, look, we have in the story an i.d. named irwin ryder.
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we obtained messages from him. he is still at the company so he did not speak on the rod but through a representative. he was urging young women to go to hr about this and confronting mr. weinstein about this. >> it's interesting. so in other words, people tried in their own way to raise the alarm bells. the board who ultimately fired them, they also knew. they were grappling with the settlements up to two years ago. they knew they were paying out for some reason. >> one reason the ryder messages confirms, senior executives were aware going back years. he talks about it as a pattern of mistreatment. >> whose money was paying the settlements harvey personally or the company? >> i think that is an important information. what is fact checked, i will
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stick to that. >> there is a need for culture change. you have to expose this. the suspect enough. you have to be right because this is a powerful guy, and he will come after you when you are wrong. also, it's not easy to get on on tv. you work for "the new yorker" but you work for nbc news. this was not easy to get through their vetting. that's why you put it in print first. what was that process like for you? >> it is very important to keep the focus on the women. they tore their guts out telling the most difficult things with them. mira sorvino, you should read that. when over the long history of news organizations circling the story, any organization stopped reporting after having damning pieces of evidence is an important one. and people should and will, i'm sure, look at that. that is not a story worth
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reporting on. i don't want to make this story about that. >> did harvey weinstein come after you? >> he did. >> what did he do? >> he was threatened with a lawsuit. there were many calls to all of my representatives, many angry meetings and also paper in writing i have him threaten to go sue me. >> what is instructive about it is that he was targeting you permanently. he was saying not just that you're wrong, but that it was personal. >> yes. and that's all angry. it re epinforces how hard it wa for the women. he went after them in this way and set up a vast machine to is silence them, pr threats, legal threats. >> so let's talk about the women. we know how hard it is to come forward in such a public way and talk about sort of grotesque
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incidents in their background. how did you do it? how did you get so many women to go on the record. were they terrified? were they ready to do it? >> alyson, they were terrified. that is exactly the word. over and over again. this was hard because i had to work with them as they relived this trauma over and over with nothing to gain. they got nothing out of this except the truth. and i say the truth because they went through a rigorous fact check process. they were not running banging down the doors of reporters. they told me they finally spoke out because they had realized from other women that this was a pattern. and they thought they could speak out and end this and protect the next woman. >> we are asking you whether it's nbc or you personally.
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it is not easy to get a story like this through. it had to be somebody with the personal resolve and the experience to know you will weather a storm to get something like this out. changes this from happening again and again. this is not the first time we have seen this. >> absolutely. this is a bigger problem be than harvey weinstein, bigger than hollywood. this is about abuse of power. it happens in every industry. it has happened in our news industry. this should be a lesson how important the bravery of women can be and how they should speak out in every business where this happens, which is across the board in our cup. >> look, there's strength in numbers right? you find there is a slew of women. there is different strength in numbers. >> i think it is hard for people to grapple with. you should read mira sorvino's act of this decision. they didn't have any support.
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what they did was so hard. >> very brave. >> very brave. >> another point is you shouldn't leave it on the victims. that's not your first line of defense for women to come forward when they have a lot of disadvantages in this particular dynamic. the men in power, not the abusers themselves because obviously they're a little bit beyond help. but those who know. those who create these contractual arbitration clauses and those who do the settlements and pushbacks against the ronan farrows. >> look, you said it had to be someone like me. it is is not a change in if people like me. plenty of reporters do good work and powerful work "new york times" and jodie cantor did. this is a change of the women and their willingness to speak.
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felt they could now speak. that's the change. >> thank you for being here. all right. another big story. new audio released from inside the mandalay bay hotel catching the las vegas massacre as it began to unfold. that's the key phrases. why? this tape is triggering new questions about the timeline of the attack. there is now a lawsuit that goes to this very point of fact. a live report next. that's my girl!
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murdererer and when. scott mcclain is live with more. scott? >> why did a 64-year-old man carry out the worst mass shooting in u.s. modern history? that question why is still very much unanswered. we are learning about how it happened thanks to newly released audio tape from hotel employees on the night of the shooting and a newly revised timeline that is raising all kinds of new questions. >> call the police. someone's fired a rifle on the 32nd floor, down the hallway. >> copy. hey, it's on 32! >> newly released dispatch. sheriff joe lombardo on defense for a significant revision to the timeline. police originally believed mandalay bay security guard
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campos was shot after they fired you on the concert. lombardo told klas. >> nobody is trying to be nefarious. nobody is trying to hide anything. and what we want to do is draw the most accurate picture we can, and i'm telling you right now today that that timeline might change again because it's human factor involved. the individual that put the time stamp associated with the radio call they received, maybe their watch was different, or maybe they looked at a different time when they put it down. >> police didn't arrive on the 32nd floor until two minutes after he fired his last shot and didn't enter his suite until an hour after that. the company that owns mandalay bay, mgm, is skeptical of the new timeline. they wrote in part, we cannot be certain about the most recent timeline that has been communicated publicly, and we
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believe what is currently being expressed may not be accurate. the timing of the shots is not all that's changed. the sheriff said paddock checked in three nights earlier than originally thought, traveling back and forth between the hotel and his home in mesquite, nevada. mgm said on two occasions a bellman helped paddock bring bags to his room through a service elevator. he was spotted around las vegas more than 200 times. alone on every occasion. but none of the sightings helped explain why he carried out the attack in the first place. >> all the things that you would expect to find we have not found. >> campos wasn't the only employee who walked into chaos. when the engineer arrived on the 32nd floor, he was quickly told to take cover. >> my whole family and i, we all appreciate him. when the first shooting started, i was kind of frozen for a second.
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and he yelled at me, take cover. if he yelled a second is too late, i would have been shot. i owe him my life. >> reporter: 18 minutes past between the time jesus campos was shot and police arrived on the 32nd floor. but the local sheriff told local media that police did everything right. everyone at mandalay bay and mgm did a fantastic job and that you will never get him to say someone dropped the ball. >> so many different puzzle pieces he yet so hard to see the full picture of this. thank you very much for that reporting. so president trump is set to use his pen instead of congress to change your health care. our panel discusses the president's plan next. like advanced genomic testing and immunotherapy. see how we're fighting to outsmart cancer at cancercenter.com/outsmart
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>> they can go out. private insurers will give you health care. i can sign it myself. i don't need anybody. i would have done it earlier. except i thought they would put this through. we are signing tomorrow a health care package that will cover, out of the people say 30%. some people say it could be 50%. it cover a large percentage of the people. >> joining us is washington bureau chief daniel dayle. we have a political consideration and policy one. political is executive order is exactly what trump criticized obama for, doing it unilaterally. health care is something congress has to deal with. and the policy one, it is known well going across state lines is
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irrelevant. the company's price is based on where you are, not where they are. so how does this play? >> well, it shows a president who is defying his own party, trying to stay true to a campaign process to repeal and replace obamacare, that wades into a policy area that is brought at the very least. not only as to what they will ultimately charge but who gets into the pool. do you have enough young, healthy people buying into a national program that will ultimately keep prices down. and more uncertainty, the one thing we have seen with all the difficulties of implementation of obamacare is that the health insurance market began to absorb the change. there were a lot of good stories with obamacare as well as a lot of things that are not working
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as well. but it takes time to be felt within the entire health care system. what trump is introducing now is just another level of uncertainty that promises to throw the markets off kilter, raise rates, and create more uncertainty for people who are out looking for insurance. >> to the political question chris was alluding to, jeff sessions who, when president obama used executive order, called him an emperor. and when president obama did it, speaker paul ripe sayan said th executive overreach of the highest order. now why are they quiet? >> you hear that? that is the sound of paul ryan saying nothing about this, daniel. >> well, we have seep time and again on issue after issue that republicans in congress in particular but also voters are not troubled by trump doing
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things that they had ex color kwraeuted obama for for years. i think what's interesting is that trump is turning to this ta he was stymied but a congress controlled by the other party. he should be just exiting his honeymoon period. he has total control of congress. yet he is turning to a tactic that obama had to use as a democrat. so i think it's a sign of legislative failure above all else. >> look, if they like what he is doing, which is making less comprehensive plans cheaper. this is what he is selling. it will be cheaper plans that are less comprehensive. you won't have to pay for maternity care. if they like it, they will overlook the hypocrisy of the executive action. >> it winds up provoking an uninformed position on this. if you have people who go out
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and get these catastrophic policies, it many raise rates. the and the illusion that is going across states, it suspect. it is is not federally authorized as a system. it is not a true review how pricing works. >> the state lines things has been a fixation of trump for years. it seems to be the one thing about health policy that he thinks he knows. that is not the centerpiece of this kperbgt order. what this would do is allow insurers to sell short-term plans and small businesses to have things that don't cover everything obama wanted. the actual reality bears little resemblance from what we heard trump on fox. all the stuff we have been hearing over and over. there is no connection between trump's rhetoric and what he is
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putting forward. >> let's talk about what's happening tomorrow, iran. the president will give a speak on iran and two top white house senior aides have told cnn that the president plans to decertify the iran deal. what does this mean? what are the repercussions of all of this? >> then it throws the accord into a situation where it's broken that iran could then resume its nuclear program. it would certainly pit the united states against european allies who were interested in entering this to the very least push iran's nuclear program back by some years. and the president thinks that perhaps there is a better deal to be gained, to be negotiated. iran made it clear they don't want to negotiate any further. so the tension within the administration has been, yes, criticize it, call iran out, but
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don't defy. don't take that step because you will trigger all the other steps. >> a hid virtue is defying doesn't end a deal. it just pushes it to congress. >> right. it may not necessariliened it. >> but at least congress will have to do something. they will have to stand up and be accountable for what they think about this deal. >> thank you very much. so professional sports teams are boycotting trump-branded hotels. "washington post" reporter broke this this morning. he joins us with the breaking details.
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the "washington post" said several teams that used to stay on the trump hotels are no longer doing so. dave ferronholt wrote the story. i feel i just stole your headline. what was this about? >> we called all pro sports
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teams to see who used to stay at the trump hotels. it was close to where the nicks and the nets played. more than a third of the nba came throughsoho. what better taoeadvertising cou you have, the cool players living there, coming in and out of there. >> in terms of why they are doing this, what do you know? >> some of the teams talked about low gist cgistical factor. some were explicit and said we left because of politics. we left -- a story from steve kerr, golden state warriors, he
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said, look, trump is trying to divide us. we don't like what he is doing. it's that simple. there's a lot of other options. >> the gold senn state warriors are saying, dave, they have distinguished thepmselves in terms of taking on the politics. how much is a business decision versus something else for these teams? >> it is hard to tell. you have to take them at their %-pn examples where the cleveland cavaliers, they stayed there until lebron on james wouldn't go, wouldn't stay with the team one time. then the rest of the team left. the one major league baseball client, los angeles dodgers, used to stay at trump's hotel in chicago when they played the cubs. but last year adrian gonzalez, a mexic mexican-american, wouldn't stay with the team. so last year they stayed elsewhere. players drive the rest of the team's decision. >> while i have you, how is the reporting going in terms of
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tracking down the president's donations to the military. remember, we were trying to track down that money. were you able to account for every dollar? >> the biggest were the president's promise to give to hurricane harvey, three hurricanes ago. he promised to give a million dollars. i called the 12 charities he said he would give to. some of them won't comment because of donor privacy rules. the ones that would talk to me about the donations said indeed they got their donations from president trump. i can confirm at least some donations were given out to them. >> he deserves credit for giving the money. dave, thank you very much for the reporting. appreciate it, as always. >> thank you. >> alyson? president trump is escalating his threats against the press. will he try to shut down media outlets he doesn't like? we discuss a lot of it next. press brew. that's it. look how much coffee's in here? fresh coffee.
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who was i going to say something to? he wassed most powerful man in hollywood. >> the stories keep coming and coming. trump escalates threats against news media. let's be clear. these are typically heard from authoritarian regimes. >> and before we twist this into a story about the press being perturbed, "vanity fair" is reporting that advisers and leading republicans that may be staying quiet, too quiet. but what they are doing is raising fears that the president is unraveling. former

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