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>> welcome to inside politics. i'm john king. moments ago, president trump couldn't get congress to repeal obamacare and now using executive power to roll parts of it back. >> this will cost the united states government virtually nothing and people will have great, great health care. when i say people, i mean by the millions and millions. >> more accounts of presidential anger and unhappy chief of staff. a top aide worried about a cabinet coop. but -- >> it's disgusting the way the press is able to write whatever they want to write and people should look into it. >> the president said puerto rico was a disaster before hurricane maria. they can't help indefinitely.
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and his team yet again tries to clean it up. >> it should not be abandoned. >> you don't think they should be shamed for their own plight? >> there is no question there have been a lot of difficulties. >> should they be shamed for their plight? >> i don't think it is beneficial to go around shaming people in general. >> president trump taking the matter of health care. signing the new executive order to dismantle parts of the affordable care act. the executive order because congress was unable to act is good for all americans. >> the competition will be staggering. insurance companies will be fighting to get every single person signed up. you will be hopefully negotiating and negotiating and
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get such low prices for such great care. should have been done a long time ago and could have been done a long time ago. >> he said it will cost almost nothing and premiums will go down. is that what this action will do? is the president right or overpromising? >> well, we don't know all the details and it may take months before we do. the executive order aims to increase competition and consumer choice at lower prices. critics are concerned it will further destabilize obamacare by syphoning off the young and healthy people into the new health care options and leaving the exchanges with the sicker people that means they will be having to pay higher prices. he is looking at allowing more businesses to form or join
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association health plans that allow groups of businesses this may not adhere to the protections and the people in them, they would be able to have cheaper plans so that people may not be able to get into them would be left with more expensive plans. also they want to offer short-term policies that are available for 90 days and used to be up to a year. they base their coverage on and they can deny you coverage and also offer skimpy plans. for the young and healthy people, are they good options? sure, they don't need coverage. for sick people, not so good.
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they want to allow more employers to put money into these employer-funded plans to let employees buy coverage on their. into the exchanges or elsewhere. >> the important point they have to wait to see the executive order. the president in part of being frustrated time and time again because his republican party has not been able to do anything for the first nine months. i was listening to dr. zeke emmanuel who helped obamacare and made an important point. now that the government is getting involved under trump letterhead, we don't know how this is going to play out. the president said it will cost nothing and lower premiums and increase competition and everyone will win. he is putting his personal stamp
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on this. you can't blame obamacare anymore. >> it's not the first time. you need to look at this with something else they have been doing much more quietly. they cut back on the advertising ahead of the open enrollment president that starts in a few weeks. they increased the navigators and professionals who helped sign up for the exchanges. this is a companion piece for that. he talked about how it was supposed to be done long ago. the nonpartisan investigative congress found vast problems with what he is proposing. we need to see the order before we draw it. >> just days ago, he said i had a phone conversation with the democratic leader to work on a fix to obamacare. isn't that inconsistent with the actions that strips away and keeps pieces of obamacare. that's what the president wants. >> i would argue this is nothing
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new, but what the actions had in common was that he wanted to get something done. he was frustrated. where have we heard that. the president who couldn't get congress to bend to his will and according to his opponents and governed by fiat instead, it sounds like president obama. trump was critical of that at the time. it always has been the case with trump, he wants to do the deal and doesn't care what's in the deal. he wanted something in front of him that he could sign to say he did something. the potential problem depending on how it plays out is as you said it does put him on the hook for the consequences. >> he may not care about the details, but maybe it's an accident and maybe it's not. this is a really core conservative republican policy initiative that they have been pushing for a long time to buy insurance policies across state lines during the republican
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primary process. i remember asking about health care and this is the one thing he would seize on. >> let's remember the white board and repeal and replace was right there. >> will his base care? >> his base will care if costs keep going up despite his promises. to your point, that was the core promise. repeal and replace. this is not that. this is not repeal or replace. >> he wants congress to come back to that. that won't happen in 2017. they said that would be top
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priority this year. infrastructure is not going to happen. rand paul got to speak at the event introducing the vice president to introduce the president. also a key player when the senate votes on a budget. his vote is not there. >> when you get rand paul on your side, it has to be positive. i was just saying as he is getting up and saying all of these wonderful things about what we will be announcing. that was unusual. i'm very impressed. >> it is remarkable that if you rewind the tape a few weeks, it was rand paul with that signature promise.
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he kept calling it obamacare light. >> he and the president were working on this for months. that overlaps his opposition to repeal and replace. if they were working on this for months. he knew you could oppose repeal and replace with no costs in relation with the president since they were working on this. >> i know i can hold out because this is plan b. >> this is about relationships and are you on my side or not. he opposed the senate plan on policy grounds. he is sorely mistaken. we will get to it later and the
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president making the case in part because he can't keep his own party together and said the democrats somehow manage to stay together. >> one thing with the democrats -- let's go. >> it's interesting. the one thing with the democrats, they stay together like glue. they are lousy politicians and policies are terrible, but they do stick together. we have great policies, but the republicans tend not to be as unified. >> to your point about using executive action, it sounds like president obama and looks a lot like it. that's what the democrats. they stick together and we are all over the place. >> it's easier to stick together when you are in the opposition. he has a point and i talked to so many republicans and i'm sure you have as well. about when democrats were in charge the way -- it wasn't
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easy, but the way nancy pelosi in the house and the obama presidency found ways to bridge the very big gaps between democrats, within the democratic party. they were not successful at other things. increasing the coal issue things like that. that's the difference between the dna of how the democratic caucus works and the republican caucus. it's much easier. >> and that effort is not being exerted to bring the republican party together. >> it took a lot of negotiation and compromising on the part of nancy pelosi to bring together the caucus of priorities. we don't see trump doing the same kinds of things or the republican leadership to get everybody into the tent and
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impeachment, but the 25th amendment. when bannon mentioned the 25th amendme amendment, the president reportedly said, what's that? in receipt weeks including one source of his most recent outburst to back the losing candidate he said alabama was a huge blow to his psyche. the president said to keith schiller, i hate everyone in the white house. there are a few exceptions, but i hate them. they said the president's mood is good and his outlook on the agenda is very positive. hardly news that this turmoil in team trump, but the idea that steve bannon who like the president is part of experience theories would say mr. president, the threat is not
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democrats impeaching you, the threat is secretaries mattis and tillerson cutting a deal with vice president pence saying you are not capable of being president. has it gone to that level? >> the actual experience maybe not, but this is absolutely the way steve bannon thinks and takes. >> it's a great way to run a government. >> he and trump understand each other and it's a feeling that you are under attack from all sides and the most dangerous source is the republican establishment. that has been enemy number in steve bannon's mind. there is a strategic aspect by stoking the president's anger at the establishment hopes to sick him on the congressional leadership and others who bannon sees as unfriendly to the cause. >> i will be a contrarian here. i'm not saying there is not
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chaos, i just don't know that it's gotten worse than it has been over the last 10 months. i think it depends on not just the day, but the minute and the hour. i talked to two people who talked to the president this week. one said that the president believes hiring john kelly as chief of staff was the best decision he ever made. he didn't like it at first and said people couldn't just come into the oval office, but now he likes it. i wouldn't be surprised if the president had a conversation with a different person or the same person and an hour later said something different. i think that is the nature of this. some is intentional. the president gets us and the press. he understands and enjoys the notion of throwing things out there that he knows are going to be reported. things that he said on camera.
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this is the calm before the storm to send everybody scurrying. i was told after that he went back and watched tv and was laughing because it was mission accomplished. >> to that end, the president knows more than we do about what's happening. maybe yesterday he knew this article was coming that would say his chief strategist said there was going to be a coop. the vice president is a good actor. these sources, mr. president, are people who work for you. people who around your white house and this is what the president said. >> it's frankly disgusting the way the press is able to write whatever they want to write. people should look into it. >> the media is bad. they are dishonest people. in many cases. in many cases. not all. i know reporters and journalists who are phenomenal people and very honest, but there is such dishonesty. >> he is entitled to that.
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he can do whatever he wants. he has first amendment privileges. but the part that was trouble is we will take away your license. if you write or air something i don't like, we should go after you. that part was beyond troubling. >> and the response from republicans and others is you took an old to uphold and defend the constitution. that includes the bill of rights. are you turning your back on that oath? a lot of them said what are you doing? >> he's not doing anything, but it's an attempt to intimidate. he is not meeting with the fcc chief to investigate how to do some of these things that would be unconstitutional. it's a shot across the bounds and this goes beyond the enemies of people and the bluster. by proposing this concrete step even hypothetically, that takes
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it to another level. >> it's hurtful, but it's a political strategy that seems to be working. the strongest applause line was the border wall. the second greatest applause line was talking about the enemy media. the fake news. his base eats this up to much degree. >> i don't think you can say with a president with a sub40% approval rating. >> i think you can talk about that, but among republicans that approval rating is much, much higher. >> when you are president of the united states, dictators and people across the globe who are in charge of their countries who don't have the constitution that we have and listen to that and think if he is going to do it, i'm going to. it's not good. it matters. he is a global leader and when he says things like that, it's dangerous. >> he doesn't think like that.
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he thinks i got here by being disruptive and i'm going to stay here by being disruptive including attacking the news media. you make a point. we have that thing called the constitution. >> the american woman ask her husband, three young children, 5 years after they were kidnapped by the network or the taliban. we are learning details about the captivity of kaitlyn coleman and her husband and their three children who were born while they were hostages. they were rescued between pakistan and afghanistan. the family is doing well. a short time ago president trump thanking the government for help freeing the family. >> we want to thank pakistan. they worked very hard on this. i believe they are starting to respect the united states again. it's very important. i think a lot of countries are starting to respect the united states.
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more politics in a moment. northern california's wine country is still burning. 23 people have been killed in the fast moving wildfires. nearly 300 other people unaccounted for. entire towns ordered to evacuate and thousands of firefighters trying to get the fires under control. with us from the cnn severe weather center. another windy day in northern california that has to be the worst news for those fighting fires. >> we were probably 25 miles per hour. if you are on the coast and that's just a breeze, you are flying a kite, for embers, 25 is
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a big number. napa and eastward and not into sonoma county proper. here is the bay area. san francisco. part of the bay area today choking with smoke. the wind is coming down from the north. let's go in to sonoma county. the fires burning with 10,000 acres last night. you heard from the mayor, there are no buildings burning in calistoga. there is complete evacuation there. we are in good shape for now. the fire is still burning and nothing in the town is burning. santa rosa, this area thousands of homes completely gone. back towards the atlas fire here, 10% containment and that means 90% non-containment and this is the town itself of napa and the fire on the ridges. this is what we are going to see for the rest of the day.
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i believe the worst weather we will see is going to be saturday morning again. we will get a respite with winds about 10 to 15, but saturday morning they could blow again to 40. something we certainly don't need. >> let's hope in the meantime they can make progress with containment. tough news. back here in washington, president trump slamming puerto rico for being in financial trouble. he hinted federal help to the island may have limits. remember this is part of the united states of america. an american territory. american citizens. most still without power and running short of medicine and gasoline. these are the words from the president of the united states this morning. puerto rico survived the hurricanes and now a financial crisis looms largely of their own making. a total lack of accountability. electric and all infrastructure was a disaster before and congress will decide how much to
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spend. we cannot keep fema and the military and first responder who is have been amazing under the most difficult circumstances in puerto rico forever. the president of the united states speaking about american citizens. the governor tweeting a short time ago reminding readers that puerto ricans are americans. sad that anyone would need that reminder. the u.s. citizens in puerto rico are requesting the support that any fellow citizens would receive across our nation. help me with this. fema does not stay in places forever. the military doesn't stay in places forever. from recovery to long long-term. but the callus tone. just the tone. i'm done with this. i'm getting criticized by people because of this so i want to move on. >> forever is one thing, it has been three weeks. people are still without power
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and without food and gasoline. people are dying on the ground. forever is a long way off. as you said, it is remarkable for him to say that. >> can you imagine the president saying that after three weeks about houston or florida? this is really playing into the narrative that democrats have been pushing about donald trump. when he didn't respond for several days after the initial impact of the hurricane, there was a bit of a radio silence and democrats had the opportunity to kind of cast this narrative that donald trump does not care about puerto ricans and he doesn't know about the rich history that he had problems with puerto ricans in new york. right or wrong, correct or not, these threats were pushed and it got into the psyche of the american people. >> the basic members. the death toll is 45 people. 83% of the island is without power.
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45% of the island is without phone service. 36% without water. this is a challenge to help our brothers and sisters, our neighbors that may be far away, but they are neighbors. this could happen in your community too. a lot of people pushed back saying the mayor is taking an opportunity here. that may well be true. she could boost herself by engaging with the president of the united states. he helps her when he tweets things like this. the mayor tweeting today it is not that you do not get it, you are incapable of fulfilling the moral narrative of the people. this is unbecoming of a commander in chief. they seem to come from a hater in chief. she couldn't do that whether you like or dislike her. this is not all federal response issues. there are issues on the ground as well. the president put that on the tee for her. >> 100%. she is playing his game. he is the one who designed this
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game by going after her and she is doing it right back. i'm not sure who started it, but we deal with that with a 6-year-old. we don't have to deal with that and the mayor of an island and the president of the united states. i think your point is important. >> unless you know something i don't know, a 6-year-old is not on twitter. >> a president is not in the facts. fema doesn't stay forever. there were very, very big problems in puerto rico. major debt crisis before this. but she is saying things that are true. fema can't put up flyers saying go to this website and log in when there is no website because there is no power. nobody can do those things. the fact of the matter is, she is a politician. she knows her constituency. hurricane or not, it's hard to imagine that the people of puerto rico were huge trump
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fans. the fact that she is geei inget pummelled by the president and she feels it's expeditious to do it back. that's the way it works. >> forget politics for a second. he's the president of the united states whether he is a man or woman, a democrat or republican, this is his job. to the politics point of it, has president trump done enough to help puerto rico? a university poll is out. 36% said yes and 55% said no. he will attack that as fake news or fake polling. they asked hispanic voters and 76% said the trump administration has not done enough. 17% said it has. the pictures and the numbers about the still devastation and the slow progress of recovery, people get that. >> like you mentioned, this is his job, but a part that he understands. he got good marks for the response in texas and florida.
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he was up there looking presidential and seeming commanding in a time when everything else was going wrong. he can't get his agenda through congress and north korea is blowing up, hopefully not literally. he seemed like he could do this and turn this into a needless political fight. >> because somebody criticized him. >> it's only been three weeks. this is a crisis that is still not understood. we are talking about the tropics. marco rubio said it early on. he doesn't know of a place in the tropics that good things happen after eight days without power. we had three weeks. think about the diseases that crop up and the water that is floating around. we really don't know what could happen. this could still be a very dramatic thing. deaths are going up. >> fema spokesperson just said
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we will be with puerto rico. every state and territory impacted every day supporting throughout the response to recovery. there you have it again. the president's team having to clean up for things the president says or in this case, tweets. >> president obama considered a major global accomplishment and republicans call it a weakness. whether he will keep it or try to kill it.
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office. we started with an executive order. the president signing a new order that loosens regulations and one of the steps because congress can't act to undo it. they wanted to drop the birth control mandate and other big changes. they are also cutting the advertising and the outreach to encourage people to reach out to get them to sign up for obamacare. a number of steps to erode that. the president reversed course on opening up travel to cuba. the obama administration had a warning. transgender military service. not done yet, but the military wants to reverse course on that. the president is taking steps even though he opened a deal on immigration. including for the young dreamers. 800,000 or so. another big one. we know the president wants to kill obamacare deals.
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he backed out of that one. the president said no way. tomorrow we should get word from the president twice as presidents he stayed in the nuclear agreement. we wants to get out. this is the big question mark tomorrow. will the president said he is walking out or try to find a middle ground. >> it was a terrible ground and shouldn't have been signed or negotiated the way it was. >> the iran deal that may be the single worst deal ever drawn by anybody. >> the iran deal was one of the worst and most one-sided transactions the united states has ever entered into. frankly that deal is an embarrassment to the united states. >> it was one of the most incompetently drawn deals. >> he is consistent on how he describes it. twice he decided to stay.
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all indications he wants to do something different. even in that interview last night with sean hannity, i can't tell you what. he seemed to indicate there was a tug of war. >> yes. maybe there is. my sense is that he sort of said and i say sort of because you never know with this administration on what he wants to do. decertify and the irony is the certification process was put in my congress when president obama was in the white house and the thought was that maybe hillary clinton would be taking over and they wanted to hold the administration's feet to the fire by saying every 60 days you have to come to congress and say yes, we agree that iran is doing its part of the nuclear deal. now that donald trump is in the white house, he said i don't want to put my name on this piece of paper to say that iran is doing the right thing when i
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don't agree with this. they are going to use this certification process to decertify, but more broadly say what they are hoping and what they expect the iranians and the allies to do which is expand beyond the nuclear program to deal with human rights and a state sponsor of terrorism and that iran meddles and tries to destabilize governments across europe. that is the kind of thing i am told you will hear. >> all valid criticisms in the sense that it doesn't deal with support for terrorism or misdeed or ballistic missiles. the obama administration said this is what they will negotiate and keep the europeans on board with this. defense secretary james mattis was a general in the military at the time and now in the trump administration. the president will walk away and pump it to congress in the
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short-term. they think that's a bad idea. >> secretary mattis, short answer, do you believe it's in our interest to remain in the jcpoa? that's a yes or no question. >> yes, senator, i do. >> note the long pause. knowing the boss was not going to like the answer. the republican chairman of the house foreign affairs committee. same question. >> as flawed as the deal is, i believe we must now enforce the hell out of it. let's work with allies to make certain that international inspectors have better access to possible nuclear sites and should address the short coming. >> we see this on just about every issue.
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if you are aspect establishment and the people with titles in washington have screwed everything up. when they say yes, they say no. if you are in the establishment, he's a republican. james mattis is a career military man saying it's not the greatest, but it's a deal and let's enforce the hell out of it. this is the tension with trump on just about every issue. >> there are elements pushing him in different directions. his gut instinct is to be disruptive, but that has consequences. it's not just take down the establishment, but there are implications to this. this is a president who would like to get the upside without the downside. >> that's what he is going do tomorrow. that's not ending the deal. what he is doing what he thinks he is doing tomorrow. refusing to certify that it's in the national interest and
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certify that iran is complying with it. neither by itself unravels the deal. without actually pulling out of it. if congress looks it reimpose the sanctions that were lifted in return for the limits. that's a threat. by the way, doesn't look like it's going to happen. they said that in the last week. he's getting the political upside of rejecting this and reflecting the loathing for the certification without actually -- it could lead to the unraveling, but it doesn't end the deal. >> it's a topic of discussion. do actions have consequences? the report? you decide. there's a denture adhesive that holds strong until evening.
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gum brand. >> we often say elections have consequences. in 2010, sean hannity claimed assange was waging war on the united states and barack obama was too weak to do anything. >> we got this months ago. we can stop pirating of music in hollywood music and can't stop this guy from stealing highly classified documents that put people's lives at risk? >> now strike up the band. and a range is a truth teller. >> i interviewed him and he said it's not russia. there was no collusion. they didn't come and did not
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come from them. he said he has proof positive evidence that shows the campaign never colluded with russia. is it in the best interest of the country that it seems and i'm guessing he wants it to be left alone. >> let's leave the collusion to the investigators, but they said choice wors about julian a range. past and present administrations say wikileaks obtained those from are ushia and there is no doubt about that. why? >> it's classic politics. this is why america look at the
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media, fox included and say event or issue is fine when the republicans are in charge and not when the democrats necessary charge. vice-versa. both pears do it and shawn hannity is in that lane of the republican party. it's too bad. that's in people who have any understanding of i hhypocrisy a contradiction should see that and say give me a break. i think it's increasingly the way americans see the world. the judgment is what's happening depending on which sides see it. republicans thought the same economy was terrible with the democratic president and great with a republican president even when nothing has changed. people see the world through a partisan lens now. >> we will leave that there. thanks for joining us. wolf blitzer in the chair after
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it's 1:00 here in washington and wherever you are watching for around the world, thanks very much for joining us. we begin with breaking news out of pakistan where an american woman and canadian husband and all three of their children have been freed from the taliban. moments ago, we just learned that the husband is refusing at least for now to leave pakistan. our pent gon correspondent is here and barbara, tell us why the husband joshua boyle is refusing to board an american plane. >> well, this has been going on for several hours now according to a number of officials. we are talking to them and they were basically
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