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victor blackual and christy paul. >> good morning, so good to have you with us here. we want to start this morning with shocking news from that family that was freed. >> joshuaboil and his wife caitlan and three children are all back in canada. you learn more about their terror. what did you learn? >> to be clear, sir, i spoke to him before his son actually made the statement. and in speaking to patrick boyle, he made it clear his son
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they were treated much worse in his book than the proof of life videos. and i'm quoting here, they said the children were forced to watch their mother being defiled. i can also tell you that sources close to the family say that in fact there was at least one forced abortion. and that perhaps is what joshua boyle was referring to. in terms of speaking to patchtric boyle, his father, he made it clear his son had a lot to say and would continue to have a lot to say. he would continue to cooperate with authorities. and he knows there's a lot of questions what he and his wife, his wife was pregnant at the time, what they were doing in the area. he said in his statement he was trying to help people in poverty there. they consider it a miracle they were released, that their family is indeed safe. we expect their back at the family home and will be trying
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to finally come to terms with everything they've been through. >> paula, i want to get clarity on one of the many terrible details of this story. you said that you learned from his father, boyle's father that there was potentially forced abortion. what we heard at this point that they authorized the killing. so the father of boyle said there actually was the death of a child through this forced abortion? >> yes, and that's what they had alluded to earlier in terms of even letters that they had received from their son. but it is unclear. and keep in mind, victor, this is a family that before they saw them at the airport besides a few letters and proof of life videos, had only spoken to them twice on the phone. he was seething with anger. what they believe he's referring to in terms of the death of an infant, the plur of an infant is at least one forced abortion.
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we're still waiting for more clarity. what i have is tie safamily, both linda and patrick, the parents waiting for answers. as you can imagine so many questions. their first concern is the health of their family. one of the children had an emergency. and joshua boyle himself was injured in the leg of what was a fire fight in this rescue. >> let's hear from this family now. >> this evil of the haqqani network's kidnapping of a pilgrim and his wife engaged in helping ordinary villagers in taliban controlled villages in afghanistan was eclipsed only by the stupidity and evil of authorizing the murder of my infant daughter. >> as you said, joshua boyle has so much more to say.
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and i'm sure we'll hear more of this tragedy that went on for so long. pallia newton there for us. thank you so much. want to tell you about the breaking news in northern california. wildfires are burning through california. and we're getting our first look at this massive fire firefighters are braving now. >> released body cam footage. this is what they call five minutes of hell. i want you to watch it. this is deputy frantically driving through the flames, really, looking for anyone who survived this. >> don't hit me. got to get out of here. in a bad spot.
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49, 10-4, don't pass. do not pass. >> you can imagine it's difficult to even see where you're going, but then you're driving through flames looking for people. they're job is about to get far more difficult. because intense winds in that area is intensifying any progress they've made in those areas. we'll take you there later. nine months now after taking office president trump is seemingly working to erase key parts of his predecessor's legacy despite the advice of his cabinet and u.s. allies, the president says iran's no longer
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in compliance with the iran nuclear deal. and the fate of that agreement is unclear. listen to this. >> i may do that. i may do that. the deal is terrible, so what we've done is through the certification process, we'll have congress take a look at it. and i may very well do that. but i like a two-step process much better. >> well, president trump is also tearing apart president obama's signature health care law and touting his new executive order on health care in a statement released on twitter this morning. cnn's boris sanchez is live from the white house. the president as we know is fond of tweeting on a saturday morning or really any morning. what is he tweeting this morning? >> reporter: yeah, after two failed attempts by republicans in the senate to replace obamacare, the president taking into his own hands the matter of signing the executive order on
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thursday. and he's tweeting about it. quote, very proud of my executive order which will allow greatly expanded access and afford lower costs for health care. millions of people will benefit. it also eliminates subsidies that helped lower income americans pay for health care. and by doing that, it puts a lot of pressure on the marketplace because then health insurance companies have to charge more, they have newer customers. they may even back out of certain markets altogether. so this really kpaber baits one of the key problems altogether. it not only puts pressure on the marketplace but on congress to do something and to act. after they failed to get a simple majority to pass this, you'd think the president would perhaps sway democrats to perhaps fix obamacare. but yesterday chuck schumer and
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nancy pelosi said this was a spiteful executive order, saying that the failure of the aca will rest in the president's hands. the president also essentially put the iran nuclear deal in limbo yesterday, kicking it over to congress, giving lawmakers 60 days to decide what to do about sanctions. they have three choices essentially. they can re-establish sanctions that were in place before the iran deal took hold. they could perhaps modify them to include triggers that would kick into place it iran perhaps tests another ballistic missile. or they could do nothing. in which case the president has vowed he will step away from the deal himself. so the president now putting additional things on the agenda for congress, which hoping to accomplish things like tax reform right now, victor and christy. >> and there are far few working days than some might expect, because they've got lots of
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breaks figured in there. boris sanchez from the white house, thanks so much. >> we've been talking about what's happening with the iran deal, president trump. what is the reaction from the government there? >> reporter: well, there's been a very angry reaction coming from the iranian government. it came shortly after president trump gave his speech yesterday afternoon. the irany president came out. hosen rohawny said the u.s. can't unilaterally leave the nuclear agreement because it's a u.n. agreement and obviously not one between the united states and iran but the united states iran, and several other countries. on that point, he said that's something that can't happen that easily. he also accused the u.s. of some of its policies here in the middle east. and it said one of the reasons why the iranians still have that
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ballistic program is because some of the things the u.s. is doing here in the middle east. earlier today there was a statement that came out by the iranian government. quote, the transfer of hundreds of billions of dollars worth of arms into the region, that has turned the region into a tinderbox not to be complacent about the leads, pertaining to that ballistic program. and quote, the president will have to bear full responsibility for all consequences of his role behavior. choice words for the president. and you can see the hard liners in this country banding together rather than be divided by some of the things the president said in his speech. let's take you to russia now. and the kremlin is warning of very serious consequences if the u.s. ditches the iran agreement. and nick, are they saying what
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those very negative consequences could be? >> they're hinting at it, and russia has long maintained, really, this is the best shot of keeping curbs on the iran nuclear program. it's closest to teheran and also disagree around the middle east. but certainly they have a lot of influence on iran. we've been hearing from the foreign ministry late last night putting outa statement really condemning what they refer to as the aggressive rhetoric of international relations of president trump. coming at a time when the they're beginning to quote, get on its feet and bring concrete results. interestingly, though, this statement goes onto say they're not entirely sure that the bid to decertify and pass to congress for the next move by donald trump will actually yield any results. they seem to think it's more of a domestic issue, hopefully won't imp pact the
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implementation of the agreement. that's certainly their analysis. but russia deeply concerned. and how hard liners uniting in iran on this. and russia uniting on this saying this is the best shot they have, it's beginning to work, why at this point would you tear it up. and the kremlin saying if you start to walk away from this agreement, the united states, you'll probably find that iran does, too. >> nic paten walsh for us there in moskow. nick, thank you. we've got more of that really dramatic video coming out of california this morning. a police officer's body camera recording frantic moments as he tried to evacuate people caught in the wildfires. >> where you at? >> through here.
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17 minutes after the hour now. key usga allies are now criticizing president trump's refusal to recertify the iran nuclear agreement. and this morning iran is slamming president trump's decision as a mistake in pledging a, as they call it, strong reactions if the u.s. goes against the iran nuclear deal. but the president has strong supporters including congressman tom reed. >> thanks for having me on. >> let's start with your tweet. you tweeted this, i support the president's decision to enter not into president obama's flawed deal with iran. of course i take problem with not to enter.
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what's the problem with sanctions will work here? >> when we see iran when it comes to ballistic missile testing, monument of troops to commercial carriers to hostile areas in the region, to me that's an additional threat that iran need to be taken care of. and had sanctions to me are the biggest tool we have in the toolbox to address as we know what's a threat to us here in america and to our partners across the world. >> this is not the first time sanctions has been imposed on iran. if you need an example how discouraging sanctions can be you only have to look at north korea where sanctions have been levied time after time, and kim jong-un has progressed to getting an intercontinental ballistic missile with a nuclear warhead. so again i ask where is the evidence even if sanctions are imposed by congress that will be effective, more effective than the deals struck in 2015?
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>> because the sanctions i'm talking about when you bring up north korea, when you bring up china following through the sanction activity we imposed on north korea, that's a whole level of sanctions. i'm talking about aggressive, significant sanctions that makes sure when these folks edge gauge in this behavior, there's pen taelts not only to themselves but their partners. you have to fundamentally ask the question are you going to stand with america or iran or north korea? that is the level of sanctions i'm talking about. >> what is the impact you believe of the u.s. potentially withdrawing or decertifying is the term we're now using, this deal considering that both secretaries mattis and tillerson and many of the president's advisers and other sigteres here believe that iran is following and complying with this deal? >> i just don't see that.
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the evidence i've been briefed on that i've seen, shows me an iran that continues to be aggressive, that continues to develop technology that can be easily redeployed into the american space. that is an existential threat. we send a message to iran we're not going to put up with this development of technology that's going to make you closer to have a nuclear weapon or the delivery thereof. >> so the president is not even saying they're not even following the letter of the deal. he's saying they're not following the spirit of the deal. but you say you have evidence, and cronk, you're saying you have evidence that iran is not fly complying with the letter, with the technical elements of this deal? >> when i interpret the deal and i look at the language, when i look at the spirit of the deal, when i see ballistic missile testing and movement of troops into areas of hostility that could pose a threat to our
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allies, that to me is part of this deal that cannot be ignored because technology it's not in that paragraph or that section. we're looking at this deal in totality, not just the documents but the threat iran represents to us. >> congressman, let me remind you there are troops moving into areas that you would say threaten u.s. allies, but that is not part of the deal. and i would also say this, edwin barak the prime minister and defense secretary under netanyahu says he thinks the president should stay with this deal. let me move to another element here, and i want to talk about -- >> i'd appreciate that. >> the president tweeted this morning he is proud of his executive order. let's put it up on the screen and i'll read it for our viewers. very proud of the executive
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28 minutes past the hour. good to have you with us this morning. crime christy paul. >> and i'm victor blackwell. these wildfires in california, you've seen the video, they will only get worse today because the winds are increasing. the fires have wiped out huge parts of the wine country. more than 220,000 acres burnt. >> and take a look at this video we've gotten in this morning as rescuers are trying to get to people. they're driving through what they can as embers are plying through the air. the sonoma county sheriffs office releasing this. it's body cam footage, and they call it five minutes of hell. the deputy driving through to find survivors. >> she's disabled.
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>> let me get her feet. >> her husband's right behind you. >> ready? >> hold up. hold up. >> there's a house on fire. >> you've got to get her up. you've got to get her up. >> okay, hold up. there you go. watch your leg, watch your leg. watch your leg, watch your leg. sir, you got a guy. >> seconds in this situation matter. the deadliest wildfire this is now in the state's history. so far 36 people in four counties have been killed since the wildfire began about a week ago. and any progress in containing the flames, that is now jeopardized because of the winds that are going to intensify this weekend. let's start with cnn's ryan young in santa rosa, california. let's start with the hundreds of people who are missing where you are and the efforts to try to find if these people have
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survived, if they're just out of reach. talk about that if you would? >> reporter: well, we do know at one point more than 70 cellphone towers were destroyed in this fire. they've got 67, 68 or even more at one point back up. so communications have vastically improved in this area. and what they believe people were missing because they couldn't get in contact with their loved ones. people left with only seconds to spare, so they had limited time to communicate with their loved ones. this will be a recovery effort that will be going into areas just like this one with cadaver dogs to see if they can find any sort of human remains. we've all covered tornados and hurricanes and usually when people come back to devastation like this, there's something for them to pick through. but when you look after house and house like this, there's nothing here but soot and metal.
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we talked to a lady just yesterday who tells us that her company believes it'll be two years before they'll be able to remake it. just on the other side of this ridge, we've actually been able to see the flames in the distance. we can't show it to you on camera, but we've been able to see it. what we know is 8,000 firefighters are fighting that fire. that was one of the things that's been going on that firefighters are trying to cut a path to make sure as the fire tries to spread, it doesn't get more fool. and i can tell you they've been working quite hard, four, five days in a row. it's unbelievable to see how the first responders have responded to this. it's going to be a long few days, though. >> yeah, understandably it will
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be. ryan young in santa rosa for us. thank you so much. it has been a tragic few months with the people in california losing their homes to fire, those who lost their homes to wind and water on the other coast and the caribbean. >> it's been tough. >> it has been. >> and we're not even there. tough for them. it's hard to watch, but certainly thoughts and prayers going out to all these people today as they deal with this. coming up, a couple freed from militant cap tifblt after being held for five years is now talking about what happened while they were there. our next guest is an expert in foreign hostage negotiations. his reaction and what this all means for the future of u.s.-pakistan relations. and there's an emergency meeting going on today to discuss the fate of movie producer harvey weinstein.
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we're the webber family and we are usaa members for life. coming up on 38 minutes after the hour now, president trump threatened to kill the iran nuclear deal if congress dpuz not act soon. his comments came after he refused to recertify the deal yesterday. congress now has 60 days whether to reimpose sanctions, a move that would put the u.s. in violations of the agreement. meanwhile the president occurring criticism from leaders. let's start here, we have a lot to get through. the president said during the campaign he wanted to dismantle the agreement. what he announced yesterday was not that. it could be in 60 days, but it isn't that. considering what we know now about the process, what the
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implications of tossing it over to congress to have a conversation about sanctions? >> well, i think the implications are all negative. the united states is diminished in the world, and our ability to negotiate better outcomes for national security concerns either with iran or other partners is reduced. there is no prospect of using congress to increase our leverage to deal with either nuclear issues with iran or other issues with iran. that's a fantasy. >> the secretary of state suggested that there could be potential for a secondary deal. do you see any potential for that? >> well, i think a lot of arms control agreements have follow ones. at some point somewhere down the road it might be possible to have that discussion. that's not a discussion i think anybody can have right now, and that's certainly not one that's set up by the sort of soap opera
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drama coming out of the white house. >> i want to read from you and everyone watching a statement from the leaders that came from great britain, france and germany. here it is. we encourage the u.s. administration and congress to consider the implications to the security of the u.s. and the its allies before taking any steps. such as reimposing sanctions on iran lifted under the agreement. scolding nato, his concerns about the u.n., is there some combined impact on the relationships with some of the u.s.'s oldest allies? >> absolutely. and i think that our allies and partners in europe have been admirably feerd in expressing their views of going down this road with iran nuclear deal. the fact this would just not be a problem with iran or in the
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region. i think you hear some voices in washington that suggest there are europeans willing or even eager to reopen or renegotiate this deal. i think that statement you just read should put to rest any of those false claims. >> how does this impact the u.s.'s efforts to deterring north korea from developing its nuclear weapon? >> i think almost on any issue this undermines the united states's ability to use diplomacy. why would north korea try to strike a difficult deal with us, when we proved we can't take yes for an answer? and even more importantly than that, the russians and the chinese were extremely cooperate a plexable partners. why would they invest the same political or intellectual capital, if we're not trustworthy partners? >> let's turn to another element here. you negotiated the release of
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the return of -- we understand he will enter a plea. during the campaign then candidate trump said that burgdle should have been shot from abandoning his post. considering what we know now about the case, do you have any regrets about that exchange and deal to get him back? >> oh, absolutely not. i think one thing we're learning now are the conditions under which these hostages are held are always worse than we can imagine. that was certainly the case with sergeant burgdle, and certainly the case with the coleman family. we owed it to the sergeant to do everything we could to get him back. i'm distressed this prosecution has taken place of what i can
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only describe as interference from the senate because their political intentions regarding sergeant burgdle were all too clear for the leadership. >> the attorneys for the sergeant believe the charges should be dropped because of the rhetoric of the president. do you agree with that? >> absolutely. >> let's move on. the canadian jugs wuboyle and caitlan and there three children were released. pakistan cooperated to free them, release them and return them here to canada and the u.s. the president has said this is evidence that pakistan respects the u.s. again. how do you see it? >> well, i think the president makes a great deal out of small changes in policy. i don't think that there's been any real shift between the united states and pakistan. president obama and his team
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also used strong rhetoric towards pakistan. i don't think any of us yet know the details of how this operation unfolded. so for right now rather than try to draw broad political -- i think this family has been delivered from no doubt what was a terrible situation. >> all right, christy. up next, canceled projects, board resignations. now police investigations. more fall out after more than two dozen women accused harvey weinstein of assault. after he's now asking for a second chance. that causes dry eye. t imbalance so your eyes will thank you. more than eye drops, dry eye therapy. theratears®.
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. well, harvey weinstein's fate in hollywood could be determined in just a few hours at this point. the board of the film academy, the group behind the oscars is holding an emergency meeting today. and they could vote to strip harvey weinstein's. one of those women a former employee of weinstein's company talked to cnn about her accusations against him. >> i was willing to forgive him i will i heard all the allegations. and there was so many. and then the tape word was mentioned and at that point my heart just went, oh, my god, i just wish i'd said something before. i could have perhaps stopped this. >> now, a represent receive ofor weinstein says the disgraced mogul is headed for rehab. before he headed out of town, though, he had this to say. >> i'm not doing okay. >> you're not. >> i'm trying.
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i've got to get help. you know what, we all make mistakes. a second chance, i hope. >> no problem. >> thanks, guys. you know, i've always been loyal to you guys. not like those [ bleep ]. treat me like [ bleep ]. i've been a good guy. >> i've been a good guy, he says. we hear him asking for a second chance, and we can't help talking ebt these aikt setments he had in the past, weren't those eight chances? >> you would think those settlements would prompt him to change something or more importantly prompt the board or people around him to say, hey, something needs to change. but it's clear this was something accepted by all of his staff. we're hearing from a lot of former employees of his that say they knew this was happening, some accusers say it was
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sometimes his own assistant that would help set up these meetings. it's clear this was happening, and it took these avlachg of accusations and accusations from high profile women to come forward. i think what's going to be the blow from the meeting. these are people who sit on the board of academy who are voting on weinstein's fate. that could be anything from stripping him of his membership to stripping him of his oscar which we know he loves. we'll be watching that very closely. >> i think what's interesting to note is bill cosby is still a member of the academy. roman pulansky is still a member of the academy. what is the likelihood harvey weinstein would not be? >> if i was a betting person i
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would bet towards he would lose his membership. and maybe this would call attention to others as well. hollywood is paying attention to what these producers are doing behind the scene. amazon announced today they're not going to have a red carpet for a woody allen movie they're promoting. you've got to assume between what's happening with harvey weinstein and the woody allan premier. >> he said you've done terrible things to a number of women over the years. i've sickened by it and terribly disappointed in you. if possible address you've wronged and possibly find a path to heal and redeem yourself. most likely you aren't interested in my advice, but this is the way i see it. i remain available. jk. how many people do you think remain available to harvey
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weinstein today? and can somebody like jeff cassenberg help turn things around for him? >> not many people remain to him. his wife has left him, his brother has made statements really against harvey weinstein. and i think a lot of this is how harvey weinstein has handled himself after these allegations came out. the statements have rasked from admitting he's done some wrong to saying everything was consensual to saying he was going to get rehab and he was going to leave the country but he was clearly still in the country. jeffrey has known harvey weinstein for three decades. he was in charge of disney when disney's company bought merimax. and everyone wants to distance themselves right now. we've already seen tv projects
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that have been dropped that were supposed to be planned with harvey weinstein's company. >> we'll be watching what happens today. thank you so much. victor. start small, think big. let's do it. and this week we're looking at the be keeping business in minneapolis that's making a pretty sweet business from honey products and delivery. >> it really started with putting this helmet on and riding a bike that is painted like a be. my name is christy allen. i'm founder and head beekeeper at the bees knees. we sell raw honey, meaning it's never been heated. when you heat a honey hot, you lose a lot of flavor from the flowers. the bees knees does honey production. and we also sell t-shirts, bandannas. we rent out these cuddle powered
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honey tractors that we designed and built. the bees knees is a success financially because we continue to diversify and grow. we have partnerships where you put the bees. we label it by the zip code and the organization. so they're getting the benefit of the marketing tool. we get the benefit of reaching their communities with our message. reviving the hive for healthy bees, healthy lives. so all i did here was drill a little hole in between the wood, big enough for a be to get through. the education program at camp bees knees, it's a really good way to build a community of be keepers and strengthen it. as long as the bees are still around, the business will thrive. >> but do you have to wear the bouncy ears? that's the question. >> it's part of the -- so people know who you are. >> we'll see you back here 10:00 eastern for "cnn newsroom."
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i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. we welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. is president trump getting things done or just undoing anything president obama did? the decertification of the iran nuclear deal and cutting off federal subsidies for the affordable care act, both fulfill campaign promises but seem all about under mining obama's legacy. i'll talk to former obama advisor david axle
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