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this is gps, the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states. today health caillary clinton o special edition of gps on trump's foreign policy. >> why on earth would wow want two nuclear challenges in iran and north korea at the same time? >> president putin's vendettas
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against hillary clinton herself? >> he wants a america that is divided within. >> what cost her the 2016 race. >> he was running a reality tv cam feign and stoking a lot of anxiety and fear. >> and her marriage when the whole world was able to watch its worst moments. >> it's not all rainbows and puppy dogs. it's hard. america is making a new push, why china is going in a whole new direction. a tale of two i haves and two very different strategies. first, here is my take. when running against donald trump jeb bush said trump was a chaos candidate and he would become a chaos president.
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push failed badly in the primaries. in this last week donald trump has thrown grenades into the health care system exploding the exists frameworks but with no clear replacement or strategy or solution. in the first months of trump's presidency was the lack of any accomplishments. label child a currency manipulator, begin building the wachlt he kept only a handful of his promises. he sent one china's way. he said the u.s. stopping all
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doing business with china. were america to stop trading with china it would almost produce a global recession. always solous about articulating their national interests. the time they they didn't bother to reply. beijing seems to have understood, it's donald trump, don't take it too seriously. trump in recent week. while he has within unable he has become more more aggressive. on trump has decided to act but not in a strategic manner with a new policy carefully bolstered through conservation and
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comprehensively implemented. it is a series of unilateral actions, speeches that disrupt existing policy without actually replacing it with an alternative framework. the result in various groups and state governments will go to court. they will seek administrative reviews and clarifications. people will find it harder to plan for the future and bank on having access to health care. foreign poll city damage it has tang five shos and then sus tand within it, sort of. trump has signalled to chis
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rei -- skies of north korea. trump made the claim that other countries could get hundred year intervals. trump's actions suggest that his at minute stra administration cannot stay the course for a few year, let alone hundreds. it is a sad sign they involve their jobs rep. they were mitted to -- instead they have a showman that scorns any such stability. it is just what jeb bush predicted, chaos. let's get started.
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it has been 342 days since america voted in the 2016 president shlg election. most everybody expected hillary clinton to immerge victorious. although she won the popular vote the electoral vote went to donald trump. as to the former senator, secretary of state and former presidential candidate hillary clinton has done a lot of the past and what is to come in the future. it is among the top read and most sold lists on am soon i.
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>> sick tir. >> reporter: that the nuclear deal the whole idea is to put much more pressure on iran. what do you think of that? ? i think it is very dangerous. i think his talk about desert i fiing against the compliance from people in his administration and many voices on the outside sends the wrong message for a number of reasons. first of all it basically says america's word is not good, that even in the absence of evidence that iran is not complying with the ie rachb nucle-- iran nucle.
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that is bad on the merits for this particular situation and across the road that america's word is not good. it is up ending the kind of trust and credibility of the united states possession and negotiation that is impairtiimp impairtive to maintain. if iran is complying then we are giving iran the spotlight, the aggrieved party spotlight. it makes us look foolish and small and plays right into iranian hands. third point, this nuclear deal was to put a lit on iran's nuclear program, which it has.
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it doesn't mean iran isn't engaging in other bad behaviors. i got the sanctions. i know that iran plays a game of aggre aggressi aggressiveness. my point has been and remains i would much rather deal with his other bad behavior. and why on earth would we want two nuclear challenges at the same time? >> trump says, look, let's face it. they haven't worked. the north koreans have raced faster than anyone imagined to obtain a nuclear weapons
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program, nuclear missiles. isn't that fair that the past policy hasn't worked? >> just because something hasn't worked as you want it doesn't mean it should be threatening military action. it is an intensive effort that plays on the table some of the risks not from north korea's aggressive behavior and development or its efforts to develop but it also is important to say look, we will now have an arms race, a nuclear arms race in east asia. we will have the jap these who
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understand that they can't count on america. what deeply distressed me is when we saw him talking ability diplomacy and i applauded him for it. we get a tweet saying forget about it. you know, they won't do anything. there is only one answer. i find that so disturbing. you should not be talking about matters of peace and war and nuclear weapons with tweets and yet we know that is how this mt. behaves. >> do you think tillerson it was until he was undercut by his
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president. i'm you know, maybe trusted advisers from continuing direct diplomacy, looking for ways to try to contain. diplomacy preventing war, creating some deterrence is slow, hard going difficult work. you can't have impulsive people or ideal logical people who say we're done with you. we are not done with the nuclear they are very i mean the idea that he is going tit for tat with the build him up.
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give him more he jat ma i think it's a very shortsighted and dangerous root to take. next, the russia question. in 2011, she encourage to pay for putin's. go companies, but we make more than our name suggests. we're an organic tea company. a premium juice company. a coconut water company. we've got drinks for long days. for birthdays. for turning over new leaves. and we make them for every moment
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have to ask you about another one. putin. >> yes. >> you write about him. it seems like there was bad chemistry from the start. you talked about how he would sit in a way that it was almost disrespectful. you would call it man spreading. >> yes. >> you recount the events we try today highlight in a documentary. he gets nervous about it and then the russian elections are impending and in december of 2011 you come out in favor and those protesters. there are many people who believe that putin decided you were trying to do a regime change and you were going to get
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you back. the intelligence community has said in its performing that putin has a grudge against me. i was speaking on behalf of free and fair elections and democratic process and that the russian people deserve to have one where their votes were actually counted and have a political system. now, i was the messenger on that message. i think that putin's campaign against us is much more about american democracy. he has a strong belief that he has spoken about that the collapse of the soviet union was a catastrophe in human history. he really wants to destabilize democracies in europe, in our
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country, undermine the european union because he believes that that will then give russia a real chance to be dominant certainly in europe and certainly along its borders even as far as central asia and that the united states, which he views as his primary adversary will be weakened. i think he was successful in what he did in our election because the more we learn about it the more we understand that highly sophisticated intelligence analysts tried to sew deviciveness within our country. he wants an america that is divided within, which is the only way anybody would take us down. he was shrewd in his analysis. and he had some familiar areaty,
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maybe not personally but through proxies with trump's mind set which is very positive towards authoritarian behavior. i think he made a smart bet from his perspective. at this moment he is not getting everything he wants because thankfully we have checks and balances and members of congress who pass sanctions which trump signed but is not enforcing to send a clear message that you can't mess in our elections. so he got some of what he was looking for, both with the president who was elected and with the deviciveness that was generated. he hasn't gotten everything but keep an eye on him because he is not done. >> what happened is the name of healthcare health ca hillary clinton's book. it was also in the days of november 8th 2016.
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i'll ask her if it misdiagnosed what americans cared most about. it turned out it wasn't the economy. ♪
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in the book you say at one point that one of your campaign advisers pointed out to you that on the bases of the polling it seemed like there were two dominant issues, economics, slow recovery and political gridlock. i wonder, you know, you have a lot in here but you carefully analyze what may have gone wrong. was the big mistake in a sense that there was a mistake that it wasn't just those two issues? what trump showed is that there was a series of cultural issues around immigration, race and that these were very passion passionately felt but in a sense
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you guys felt that. >> you know, i talk about that in the book because there's no doubt in my mind that there was economic anxiety which we were prepared to address. we were running a presidential campaign that we thought was aimed at telling people what i would do as president. he was running a reality tv campaign and stoking a lot of anxiety and a lot of fear. so we had the economic anxiety. exit polls show for people who said the economy was their number one issue, he voted for me. what he did from the very first day of his campaign was tap into all of this cultural anxiety. >> what should they do to deal with the reality there is this cultural anxiety? is there anything to connect with it without to prejudice? >> i really believe that i'm not
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going to give up on the progress of the last 50 to 60 years in our country. we are a fairer better nation. we have the civil rights act. womens rights were recognized. we knocked down discrimination and created more doors of opportunity that we are treating gay people with respect and giving them their equal rights as citizens. when you look at freedom of religion, something that was so critical to our constitution why are we scapegoating muslims? people who are here making contributions. so my view on this is it's a terrible mistake for democrats or anybody to walk away from these core values and rights. we have to stand up for them and we have to do a better job number one of explaining to people, you are being
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snookerred. you know what? the real threat to your future is a government that doesn't care about you and is taking actions that will make your life even harder and is favoring the wealthy beyond anything we have ever ever seen before. >> and you make that argument and he plays with the nfl controversy? >> yeah. >> which is purely symbolic. >> yeah. look at his numbers are shrinking. the people who are favorably disposed to him are the hard core of his base. it may be enough to win a republican primary. it may be enough to scare republican members of congress who worry about getting a bannon inspired further right, so yeah, it has political consequences within the republican party but we have to do a better job of making it
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really clear that a lot of what he is doing is to distract from the very real impacts of actions he and his government are taking. they are turning back regulations on equal pay, on overtime pay. that's money out of workers pockets. they are going after health regulations, by opening the door to pesticides. they say what are you doing? they will effect other peoples well being. we can go down this line and we have to do a better job of making it clear what the stakes really are. i can understand why people either didn't take him seriously or said he is not going to do that when he is president. i said in my concession speech, give him the chance. let him be the president for everybody. i opened my book which was dark and devicive, continuing the worst aspects of his campaign.
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would get you yun vuniversal a e applause. why? >> i think it is indemic in our society. i do try to take readers on a journey with me and obviously i use bill's story and barack obama's story to tell how galvanizing they were. people immediately saw this ark of, you know, from poverty in hope, arkansas, from a biracial family in hawaii, how really impressive and exciting their stories were. i'm a middle class girl from the middle of the country. i always struggled with what's my story? it suddenly dawned on me i was the beneficiary of these radical changes in womens rights and opportunities that began in the
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60s and continue and that i could have and maybe should have tried harder to tell that story. i think that what's happened since this election may have cracked that open. i hope it has. i'm seeing tens of thousands of people on any book tour. i've now shaken about 7 or 8,000 hands and spoken to 10,000 more and i have much still to do. there seems now to be a willingness by more and more women and girls to claim their rights in a very explicit way not an apologetic way, excuse me, let me express my opinion. no. i have an opinion. i want to tell do you what that is. i hope it really does further
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that discussion because i was appalled at the level of sexism and the behavior of trump in the past and during the campaign was kind of exhibit a of what we are up against. there seems to be a backlash. you see it online as women express an opinion and then you see it in the media. you see it in a lot of places where womens advancement has gone very far, much further than it certainly seemed at the time when i was coming of age. there is this pushback now. i think we need -- and not just women but fathers of daughters, husbands of wives and people who care about fundamental fairness. i say feminists seems to be like a word nobody wants to use but that's because i it's not appropriate he understood. feminism is not about women
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having more rights. it's about women having equal rights in the workplace, in the politics of society, having the right to be yourself and to be able to express that and to have that both appreciated and providing a platform to go as far as your talent and hard work will take you. >> you lost the white women vote. do you think white women voted their race over their gender? >> here is what i say in the book. there's a little silver lining but i lost, you know, white women otherall. i won black women and won latina women by 68%. i won women overall and i lost white women, precodominantly
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non-college educated white women. it has become a factor the way that race has and the way president obama almost transcended it and was able to be elected twice. i think that gender is still a challenge in the political arena. more and more women are running and more and more are getting elected at various stages in our political process. i say the best way to get sexism out of politics is the best way to get women into politics. i have worked on it together. i am supporting groups trying to do just that. it's not there yet. honest by, i would have won but
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i think every day that goes by the evidence becomes clearer. i don't blame any woman who hears that oh, the fbi is opening another investigation for saying, i'm not waiting my vote or i'm not going to vote now. for women their vote is a very personal commitment. and they want to be sure they are right. there was a lot of noise at the end with the comey letter. more with hillary clinton in just a moment. is there something she would like to do differently if he had to do it all over again? a very revealing answer when we come back. wemost familiar companies,'s
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i think the most revealing passages, this must have been hard to write was about your marriage with bill clinton. you said we had dark days in our marriage. you all know about them. please consider for a moment what it would be like for the whole world to know about the worst moments in your relationship. there were times i was deeply unsure about whether our marriage could or should survive. on those days i ask myself the question that mattered most to me, do i still lovehim and can i be in this marriage without becoming unrecognizable twisted by anger, resentment or remoteness. the answer were always yes so i kept going. you talk about this because you
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want it to help other people. what was it that allowed you you to come to that conclusion? was it you decided that it was worth forgiving? is it possible to forget them? >> well, you know, today is actually our 42nd wedding anniversary. we have been together through our entire adult lives. i have -- you know, i feel like i have gained so much, learned so much from my relationship with bill. i have been tested, as you certainly point out. and every marriage is different. i would never in any way tell somebody what they should do in their marriage faced with disappointment and pain. i could only do the best job i knew to do to try to come to
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grips with what the feelings were that i had, were they strong enough to maintain a marriage to continue our life together to make our home a welcoming and joyous place? i'm not going to say it was all rain b rainbows and puppy dogs. it was hard. i think staying in any marriage is hard for all kinds of reasons that don't have an easy formula to look up. i have dear friends who have had problems in their marriage and ended their marriage. i have friends who worked through them and were glad they did. i fall into the second category. >> do you feel as though when you look back on this whole life is there something you would do
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differently? people often look at your -- at your career and say brilliant woman, you know, very well briefed but a little too programmed. do you feel like you wish you had let the real hillary? >> i have often heard that. it amuses me because i think i have been the same person. i will say this and i say it in the book. i have cared about the same things ever since i was 21 years old. i cared about kids. i cared about families. i cared about health care and womens rights. i cared about all of the same things. i have tried to live my life with integrity and with a sense of purpose to it. i have been really privileged to serve in a lot of capacities where i thought the work i did made a difference. having said that i admit i was
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not the most natural politician. stepping out on the farm when i announced i was running for the senate, never thinking i would be in that position, being persuaded i should try it. i was not at all sure it was for me. i'm much easier about doing the job and it is much harder for me. i have had to learn as i went. i loved serving in the senate. i built great relationships and even friendships and worked across the aisle to get things done for people. i loved serving in president obama's cabinet. here was my former opponent asking me to be his secretary of state. i left that job with a 69% approval rating. now, when i get into the political arena, given the scars i have that i have been under
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for so many years, i probably come across as a little too guarded, a little too careful. i talk about letting my guard down in this book and i wish that maybe i had done more of that because it might have been easier for people to understand, but i am really mission focused. that may not be a good fit for the reality tv era of politics we find ourselves in. you know, that's why i have said i will do everything i can to keep talking about the future, fighting for the future i want, standing up against, you know, poli policies that i think are bad for america and the world but i will continue to be myself the best i can be. >> pleasure to have you on. >> thank you. now for something completely different. the trump administration said it's bringing back coal despite that it will never really come back and while america is coming
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the war is over.
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was intended to carb carbon emissions. the story ran on the front page of the new york times and right under it was another story detailing china's massive new investment in electric cars. part of the determination to dominate the era of clean energy technology. it is a tale of two countries and two skrat jis. the trump add minute strategies decide today move in. coal accounted for half of all u.s. electricity generated. it is now down to a third. additionally massive automation meant jobs in the industry are disappearing. down from 176,000 in 1985 to just 50,000 in 2017. machines and software are replacing workers in coal mines. these are unlikely to change
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despite the policy shift. its share of u.s. electricity generation has nearly tripled since 1990. solar costs have been falling. it is one of the leading costs of carbon dioxide emissions. that's one of the reasons why china which suffers over a million deaths a year because of air equal si the making huge investments. enabling companies to become global in theirs aspirations. china invested $78.3 billion in renewable energy in 2016, almost
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twice as much as the united states. now beijing is making a push into electric cars hoping to dominate what will be the transport industry of the future. in 2016 china sold more than twice as many of the electric cars, an astonishing catch up that had just ten years ago. all of this has translated into jo jobs. 3.6 million people are working compared with 777,000 in the u.s. donald trump has often talked about how china is killing us and how he is tired of hearing about the enviable growth numbers. beijing is getting high growth by foe wcusing on the future an ensuring it will be the world's leading producer of clean energy. the united states under donald
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