why would comey call the matter and not an investigation? three days before the fbi is scheduled to meet with hillary clinton, and the attorney general and bill clinton meet on the tarmac. i am focused on the facts did the dnc -- >> you are more interested in the hillary clinton facts -- >> because there is no evidence of any collusion between the trump campaign and russia but there are all kinds of evidence showing links between the clinton campaign and the dossier, and the dossier became the catalyst for the -- >> congressman, paul manafort had three different passports, and he applied for ten passports -- >> if he did things wrong -- >> hold on, congressman.

he was the trump campaign chairman. one person who was a foreign policy adviser to the trump campaign has pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi about his relationships and associations with russians, why don't those get your attention? >> they got everybody's attention. obviously they got your attention. if mr. manafort did something wrong, he will have to serve the sentence. >> but we're talking about the trump campaign. they hired him as their campaign chairman. talk about extreme vetting. >> he got rid of him a few months later, and then the indictment from 2005 to 2015, and it was talking about tax evasion and not giving information to the federal government and he should be

accountable for that, and that's all fine. let's do that. tell me where the link is with russia? >> congressman. >> there is none. but we know hillary clinton's campaign paid for the fusion -- >> we have so much breaking news. we know the trump campaign kept setting up meetings and trying to get dirt from kremlin-backed operatives on hillary clinton. you keep omitting that part. we have so much breaking news and we have to leave it there. thank you for being on with us this morning. we are following breaking news including the details about the breaking news in new york city. let's get right to it. here we are at the site in

lower manhattan, new york city. a dozen have been injured, and eight people lost their lives. authorities are saying some may have self evacuated after coming into contact with this murderous now presumed terrorists who used just a pickup truck, hopped a curb and went about a mile taking out people along the way. it didn't end until he hit a school bus just behind us. there's a significance additional to it because of where we are. this is the world trade center. this is a place that is a symbol of the resolve to fight terror, and here we are once again despite all the law enforcement. this man is being somewhat cooperative with police. they were able to take him into custody. he was shot in the abdomen after

running away from the vehicle when he hit the school bus. they are all over his home in patterson, new jersey. we have live pictures of that, as well. we are finding, we are told, information that is isis related on his computers. again, he left a note that says this was isis inspired. we have jean casarez with the latest. >> the hustle and bustle of new york has begun this morning, and people on their way to work with the realization this was the worst terror attack since 9/11. we are so close to the world trade center. 19 people victims in this attack, eight lost their lives. >> we have multiple casualties.

>> terror tpaoeuing moments in manhattan. a pickup truck barrelling down a busy bike and footbath for nearly a mile, the carnage ending blocks away from the world trade center. >> i see people running and screaming and multiple gunshots. >> police say the suspect, 29-year-old sayfullo saipov was shot. a note was found saying the attack was done in the name of isis. >> we will be vigilant. >> sayfullo saipov came to the united states in 2010, and he married a woman in ohio, and the

occupation also listed on his tkraoeuf license, truck driver. most recently he lived in patterson, new jersey. uber confirms sayfullo saipov worked and passed the background check. sayfullo saipov was arrested in more in 2016 after failing to appear in court for a traffic violation. police say he rented the pickup truck from this home depot store in new jersey just before carrying out the attack. at 3:05 p.m., the truck entered the bike path driving south along new york's river front on the west side of lower manhattan, plowing into cyclist and pedestrians for kneely a mile, and bikes and people strewn across the bath.

>> i saw them laying there with tire marks across their body, and you can tell they are not here no more. >> and then he crashed into a school bus. the attacker caught on camera running from the truck brandishing what appeared to be two guns. he looked frustrated, panicked and confused. >> he was holding a pellet and paintball gun that the ysuspect was shot by a 28-year old nypd officer nash. despite the attack, the halloween party going on with tighter security. >> our spirit will never be moved by an act of violence and an act meant to intimidate us. >> we are beginning to learn a

it more about the victims that lost their lives. many of them from argentina, celebrating their 30th high school reunion. >> that is so tragic thinking about them celebrating and now not being able to go home. thank you for the reporting from the scene there. joining me now is andrew cuomo. good morning, governor. >> good morning, alisyn. >> we understand this suspect who survived is now speaking to cops. do you have any sense of his background or better sense of his connections? >> we have as much as you just reported. he is -- all the evidence we have is that he was, quote, unquote, a lone wolf model. there's an evolution of tactics

for the jihads, right? it's no longer about the training camps in a geographic area, they have a platform with the internet and you can download material and they have a simple template, rent a car or truck, create mayhem. he had several run-ins with the law which were minor, vehicular, traffic, and the new york state police once helped him out of a ditch. he's a depraved coward is what he is, and he was associated with isis, and he was radicalized domestically, and he's a depraved coward. they tried to create terror. it's not the first time. it's a global phenomenon now. it's all through europe, and it

happened in stprae1993 where si people died, and then 9/11, and we expect it to continue. >> when you say he was radicalized domestically, what does that mean? what do you know about that? >> the evidence shows -- again, it's only several hours and the investigation is ongoing, but after he came to the united states is when he started to become informed about isis and radical islamic tactics. we have no evidence yet of associations or a continuing plot or associated plots and our only evidence to date is that this was an isolated incident that he, himself, performed. again, isis has gotten it down

to a simple formula that they can put on the internet and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to rent a car, rent a truck. but they are cowards and they are depraved, and i resist the temptation to delve into who they were and why. we know why. they hate america, and new york is a target. let's be honest. we have the statue of liberty in our harbor holding the torch that says freedom and democracy, and it's repugnant to them. there was the world trade center 9/11 bombing, and i was there for that, and that was the hardest blow this nation has taken with the associated attacks. they failed. they have a 100% failure rate. new york got up, and we got up stronger and bigger and better, and that's what yesterday was also, it was a failed attempt.

yes, we lost eight lives and we cry and we pray, but last night we had our halloween parade. i marched, alisyn, not because i had a great costume, but because my point was we are here, and we are going on, and we are celebrating, kids are going back to school today, the terrorists failed once again. >> listen, governor, it's so striking -- okay, it's so striking that the halloween parade with children coming out and parents went on hours after this terror attack. how do you explain that? is this new york's new normal? is this the country's new normal? are new yorkers hardened by this or taken this in stride? >> well, hardened. 1993 was the first incident. it has been 25 years. if you live in this world,

alisyn, it's almost every couple of weeks there's an incident somewhere, right? but it's not hardened. i think -- we have hardened society from a policing point of view, protection, et cetera. i think it's defiance. i said yesterday afternoon, i will see you at the parade, i will see you at the parade, i will see you at the parade. you can't let them win. the only way forward is to defeat them. now, can you defeat every depraved coward who wants to rent a car and drive into a crowd? no. we prevent dozens for every one that happens through intelligence and policing, but it will happen. don't let them win. they are called terrorists.

they want to impart terror. they didn't. they killed eight innocent people in a very coward leeway, with a truck hitting bicyclists and pedestrians from behind. that is the definition of coward, but you did not impart terror. a great parade last night. as soon as people got the information in the middle of the afternoon, people were anxious because they didn't have information, but once they had the information, i encourage people to come to the parade, join me at the parade, and you are right, it was remarkable. children, costumes. you would not have known going down that parade that anything happened in the afternoon. >> so governor, listen -- >> that is victory for new york. >> agreed. but this weekend is the new york

marathon. 50,000 runners, people lining the streets for 26 miles. that is -- look, we know what happened in the boston marathon. about the soft targets. a bike path is a soft target. 26 miles of people lining the streets, what can you do to fortify those soft targets? >> you can do everything you can do, alisyn. we have state police and national guard and the new york police department, which is one of the finest police departments in the country. we're coordinating with the mayor. we are coordinating with everybody. you do everything you can. now the implications of your question is you can't make the entire route safe. you are right. you are right. you cannot have concrete

barriers in front of every possible location. you're right. you do everything you can. you have the best police force you can, but when, and if an incident happens, you make sure it's not successful. successful was not killing eight people, success was the attempt to instill terror, and they failed. they have a 100% failure rate. they are depraved cowards to fail. they failed yesterday and they will fail every time they do it. the best attack they had, 9/11, we got a bigger, better, stronger than ever before. you didn't instill terror, you made new york stronger at the end of the day. that is the only way to do this. >> yeah. >> it's the only way to

ultimately win to frustrate their objective. >> yeah. >> that's what we have done. we did it brilliantly yesterday and that's going to be the new york tradition going forward. >> governor andrew cuomo, we appreciate talking to you on that note. thank you so much for being with us. >> i like talking to you, alisyn. >> i hear you loud and clear, and i will relate that to my co-anchor. thank you. the terror suspect talking to investigators this morning. what is he saying? we have the latest. cnn reporting for you.

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the investigation. for that, let's get to our reporter and producer. what do we know? >> that's right, chris. overnight we have been told the investigators and fbi and nypd have been with the suspect, and he was intebaited at some point, and after that, he was cooperative. sources are saying -- they are

basically saying he was not uncooperative. it's not clear what information he's providing, but whatever it is they have found it useful. we are also told authorities have been able to link social media accounts to the suspect. these accounts were not in his name, but through their investigative means and searches, they have been able to link these accounts to him and what they have found are isis-related materials on these accounts. they are sorting through them, and the key is to find out when he was radicalized, as the governor said a sort time ago, they believe that he was radicalized while in the u.s. now the question is when, and because it goes to a narrow to motive how quickly did he become radicalized is because they want to know when did he decide to launch this attack.

and there's some evidence that he may have been planning this for sometime, but they are still working through that. finally they are really working to make sure he's not connected to anybody else. >> that's an important duh distinction, if he was radicalized or inspired by somebody here in the u.s. there's a lot to process. let's bring in our final. former fbi and professor at yale, and joe, an fbi analyst, and a professor at johns university. as far as the architecture of the investigation and what they need to know still, where are we? >> we are still in the beginning stages. the fact that the attacker is

likely to survive will be helpful in getting the kind of information to determine what kind of attack this was. was this part of some kind of network or was it a lone wolf. that's going to make a difference. it will make a difference in terms of how to analyze this kind of attack and if it is a lone wolf, right now what is coming out is that there was no evidence that this was connected to a broader plot, that he was self radicalized, which we just heard. it's part of a trend where it will be incredibly difficult to prevent these lone wolf attacks on targets. >> he had to know where to jump that curb. for people not from new york city, it's not a soft target,

you can't just drive on to the bike path wherever you want, but you can where he did it. >> yeah, he had to case it out. every square inch of new york city is covered by cameras. to the point we spoke about before, we spoke about the human intelligence, interviewing him after he came out of surgery. that's critical. the other piece signal intelligence, and that's the easy path that was used, and the cameras and it's piecing all the pieces, and putting it together and painting a better picture. there will be changes on the west side highway, i think. >> you are going to go and have your students, and a lot of them will be in law enforcement, and they will say we can't stop this. this is a guy that rents a truck and drives into a place. remind people where we are. we are in the shadow of the

trade center here, you have cops all over this place all the time and he was still able to do and you can't stop it. >> we want to be positive, and we don't want to say it's a lost cause and we want to forget about it. maybe we see you and we find a couple loopholes, and maybe we need to change this around a little bit. we saw it in times square, the guy was drunk and drove into the crowd and they changed everything then, too. it's unfortunate this event has occurred but it will help with security going forward. >> it -- why do i say it that way? look around us. what has changed in our time since 9/11, you know, and, again, it means something that it happened here. the symbolism is real and the

pain returns quickly, and the phone calls of what is going on in the west side, my kid goes to that school, and so-and-so is on that bike path every day, and that had to go into this guy's calculous. they went to the parade last night, even though they don't think you can stop everybody with a struck, and they are going to work this morning even though they don't think you can stop everybody with a truck. >> we live now in the modern post 9/11 world. there's a thing called coopers color, and it means as you move forward, yellow, orange, red, and red is a heightened sense of awareness. we have to move people from white house into the yellow or orange to be more aware, and as the fbi is the pautting more stuff out, you always have to remember in this order, run is your first thing, hide if you can't run away, fight if you

must, and the last thing, tell. last night here on location, a number of people came up with cell phones and showed us pictures and we directed them to the cops and told them to make sure they have that because that's a important part of the intel. euflt wh >> what are the points of interests for you? >> how the attacks are relating to the counter terror broader terrorism strategy. homegrown, which looks like the case here, is the fastest growing threat in the united states. these are people who are already here and deciding to -- affiliating themselves with some sort of ideology to carry these out. under the trump administration we have a citizen-based travel ban, and we are on a third it ration now, and it did not include the country that this person was from. we also have, you know,

immigration policy that is targeting people who are not the ones committing these crimes, and so i think there needs to be more study of how are these people coming here, becoming alienated, getting on social media and finding that this is the way that they are going to fit in -- you know, some sort of group because they are not fitting into american society. >> right. >> i think the social media piece is very important here, too. >> right. look, the good news is this, you have to talk about the stuff in the moment, we have to talk about this stuff, we learned this from vegas, we don't want to talk about the bump stock now or mental health, and we all know what that was about. the reaction, joe, people hear about this and they say it's the muslims. this guy is a muslim. they are out to get us.

that's dfalse. the distinctions are lost on people. when they hear this, there's a reason the president goes right to entry into the country. what do you do at that level? >> it's about getting the guys and girls on the ground here. the social media aspect of it. all the information that we have out there, the public is misinformed about a lot of things and people need to educate themselves about what is going on. the youtube videos, people have to identify these things. if they have a family member who is taking all this stuff in all the time, these are warning signs. maybe they need to talk to them and stuff. >> you remember what happened to 9/11. we had people beating up saebgz, who are not muslims, by the way. >> chris, a big part of this,

america is the melting pot, right? as we have seen the recent attacks in belgium, germany, in london. the assimilation process there is not like it is in america. we do a better job here, i believe, in assimilation and outreach. >> yeah, our politics are changing on this. this place is not putting its arms around people the way it used to. culturally and politically, it is changing. is that the answer, though, what we are hearing, lock down the borders, and only get in merit-based, have your travel bans. would that stop it? >> you can look at countries in the travel ban, and you can argue that, and you can argue from the perspective are they going after the largest muslim countries, arabic -- no. it's the messaging. sometimes i think part of the

process is the poor messaging that goes out where people look at that and say you are targeting us. uzbekistan is not on the travel ban list and this guy was from uzbekistan and came here in 2010. it's assimilation. it's making sure that we don't allow -- not that we don't allow them, but we don't have established enclaves where people feel comfortable enough to enjoy the freedoms we have here and assimilate themselves in the american society. >> the larger policy discussion going on right now, what are the points of emphasis and what are the things that need to change, if anything? >> well, i think you identified some of it. this is about, you know -- there's a broader characterization that we need to stop making into these stark terms that don't apply and get a little nuanced about how we are approaching it. i just want to go back to james'

point, which is a great one about assimilation and how the social networks for people here are so important and addressing this issue. it relates to social media. people spend about 6.5 hours online every day. that's a huge amount of time. that creates an opening for this kind of remote radicalization that we see going on with isis, and, you know, in other areas, too. we know even the russians exploited that kind of focus that people have online to exploit division. moving people away from computer screens and having connections can go a long way for people feeling alienated and isolated and starting to cling and find the ideologies attractive. i think that's where we need to move to. i think mental health is also an issue. there's a pattern with lone wolf

attackers where there's mental health background, and that's also where family members who are the ones that are mostly in contact with them need to be able to identify this. these broader ways of addressing terrorism that we have, identifying networks and using our communications based investigative techniques are not going to work for somebody sitting in the room and deciding to take this kind of action completely on their own. >> understood. thank you very much. a quick moment of perspective. when 9/11 hit, i was here. we were doing reporting but it was a personal hit for a lot of us as well. i got engaged -- christina and i got engaged 11 days after, and it was a monumental thing and felt the world would never be the same and we needed to live our lives, and i had to run down

yesterday and our kids were scared. the recognition and their perspective on this and how they weren't devastated and panicked. how many? are they okay? this is terrible. and then it was still halloween. while they were thinking about it, they wanted to get on with their life as well, and man, it hit me, how we have changed. how our recognition of what normal is is so different than what it was several years ago? >> i totally agree, chris. that's what the governor of new york just said, you know, terrorists zero, new york wins. that's because, you know, we all have now somehow incorporated the risk is real and we are going to live our lives anyway, and that's such an important message. thank you very much. we will check back with you soon. meanwhile, president trump is blaming chuck schumer for the terror suspect being in america in the first place. we will get reaction from the democratic side next. ♪

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president trump is blaming chuck schumer for how the suspect was able to get in the u.s. this morning. he tweeted senate chuck schumer helping to import europe's problems. here is chuck schumer's response. i guess it's not too soon to politicize a tragedy. there you have it. a member of the house intelligence committee joining us. sorry we have to talk about this terror attack. is this chuck schumer's fault? >> uzbekistan has been one of the countries fighting terror with us. for the president to come out lashing out and instead helping the country feel we will get this under control is really

quite disturbing. again, he has a difficult time leading. >> look, here's what he tweeted before those tweets i just read. the terrorists came to our country through what is called the diversity visa lottery program, a chuck schumer beauty. i want merit based. he's referring to legislation that was proposed, i think chuck schumer sponsored it in 1990. it was bipartisan. it was bipartisan legislation and signed by george h.w. bush. but last night on fox sean handy blamed it on chuck schumer or mark levin, a right wing radio host blamed it on chuck schumer. >> he's a premier blame gamer. that's not the kind of person we

want leading our country. everywhere i go now, throughout the country, people say can't you come together? can't you work together? with a president who's constantly attacking members of his own party and both parties, that's difficult to achieve. >> senator jeff flake just tweeted. actually the gang of eight, including senator schumer did away with the program as part of the broader reform. i know, i was there. jeff flake has been speaking out. what are you hearing in the halls of congress as opposed to whether or not more people, not just democrats and not just jeff flake and john mccain will speak out when they hearing is that bothers them that the president has said? >> when the american people start to show they don't have

confidence in the president's leadership and it's reflected in their willingness to support the republican that may be representing them in congress, you will see members shifting. there's a lot of members here on the republican side that are fearful of their re-election bids. >> paul manafort surrendering to the fbi for all of these, you know, it seems money laundering charges, and here is video of that from monday. cnn has been reporting this morning about how deep this went from paul manafort and the things he is accused of. he had three different passports and three different numbers and he applied for ten different u.s. passports over the course of the last ten years. he travelled to ecuador, china and mexico using a fake e-mail

and fake phone account with fake names. he had money accounts in three different places, and had millions of stuff there. why do you make he was the trump campaign chairman and whether or not they should have known something about those things? >> clearly he was not vetted. it was on the recommendation of one of trump's good friends. paul manafort has a long reputation of working on presidential campaigns. the fact that he's an outlaw to the extent has been disclosed so far is deeply concerning to all of us. i am beginning to wonder if he was not an agent of russia? >> what does that mean? >> pardon me? >> what do you mean by that? >> such an interests in becoming chair, and such an interest in

offering himself for free when he clearly had financial troubles. russia is good at those id'ing those who have financial problems, and he has a relationship in the ukraine, and that's close to russia, obviously. i would not be surprised if we find out more. >> we just had a guest that said it was from 2005 to 2015 before he went to work for the campaign. what do you say to that? >> well, what i say to that is that's all part of one's history and one's representation. when we hire somebody we look at their record. we don't basically say that was yesterday. i think it is what the republicans are using right now, but let's remember that it was papadopoulos who was working on the campaign who has plead

guilty and who has shown by e-mail now that he was in constant contact with russian interests and was trying to set up a meeting with the president and the higher ups within the organization. this whole issue of was there coordination by the trump campaign with russia is starting to have legs. >> congresswoman, thank you very much for being on new day. great to talk to you. >> thank you. up next, terrorists using vehicles as deadly weapons. what can law enforcement do to prevent these kinds of attacks? we have a national security person here next. ting this. my main focus was to find a team of doctors that work together. when a patient comes to ctca, they're meeting a team of physicians that specialize in the management of cancer. breast cancer treatment is continuing to evolve. and i would say that ctca

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more because authorities are saying some may have self evacuated after this mad man jumped the curb with a pickup truck. he found a spot along the west side of manhattan here, a block or so from where we are right now where he had a path of about a mile before he ran into a school bus. planning and inspiration is all part of the investigation. let's bring in the cnn national security adviser, and worked with the obama administration. good to have you. the president is saying this is about you, democrats, and a policy of admission into this country that is too permissive. the visa this man entered the country country, that's the problem, lock down the border and you will see be safe. your response? >> the first thing we should not do, less than 24 hours after this carnage is politicize it.

we should always be looking for ways to strengthen our vetting and strengthen our borders, but we need to do so smartly based on intelligence and based on facts. we will see what this investigation uncovers about when this individual was radicalized. he's been here for several years. almost ten years, it looks like, based on the information we have now. we know that the department of homeland security released an intelligence assessment a few months ago in march of this year where they indicated that foreign-born u.s. based terrorists are more likely to have been radicalized here before they account. we will see what the investigation covers, but we should not be politicizing this, we need to come together as a country and show the resilience that new yorkers are showing this morning. >> what is the line between politicalization and just calling it for what it is?

the president believes and a big part of his party and a large part of the population thinks we have entry problems. >> again, the focus of national security professionals is not on the politics. we need to be focused on the facts and the intelligence that helps us constantly improve our vetting and our efforts to stop these attacks. the problem here, chris, is what yesterday's attack reflects is the morphing of the terror tphret, the evolution from complex directs like 9/11 to the type of the attack like yesterday, you have one individual seemingly operating without others, although the investigation is ongoing, and to have been likely inspired by isis messaging to act wherever

they are. this is the first vehicle attack. we have seen about 15 across europe and other places in the last several years. this is the first time that this type of attack has come to the united states, and it really follows the isis playbook of inspiring people to act where they are. >> look, i hear you on the politics. i don't think it's a coincidence the president of the united states did not mention the isis affiliation that killed the soldiers in niger, it doesn't play to his advantage. but this does. people are afraid in the united states, and they are afraid of muslims. not all americans are able to draw a distinction between a radicalized and not.

the solution is going to be found in politics. what is the right direction to move in terms of fighting back against these types of attacks that we just saw right now? >> one of the directions is to work within communities, and to not play into isis messaging. isis recruits individuals and mobilizes them to violence based on a message that says we are in a clash of civilizations, it's us against them and there's a wha war of religion. anytime we use messaging or play into that recruiting, we are doing that work for them and we should not be doing that. we need to come together and get information from communities and have communities come together to help us stop these types of attacks. more than likely these types of attacks, these one-off individuals who are inspired to act, the information to stop those attacks is going to come from communities tprrbgs people who know these individuals and

can work with law enforcement to stop it. >> extreme vetting, the travel ban expanding. is that part of the answer in your opinion? >> again, we should always be looking for ways to strengthen our vetting, but the travel ban, which is a broad and wide -- it cuts across a wide swath of countries and is not based on intelligence is not the type of change that will help make us more safe. the extreme vetting, again, we should always be improving our vetting, but it needs to be based on intelligence. we need to learn lessons from this. if there is i anythianything to in the vetting, we should address that. more than not, we could see the suspect was radicalized here. >> they don't look at who somebody is, they look at what they are in terms of their

disposition. thank you. >> thanks. a big part of the story is about perspective. we have a loss of life, and there's an interconnectedness to all of us. there's symbolism here in new york. e.b. white wrote about it in 1949, show the tower we are in the shadow of the world trade center, a place that stands as a simple of resolve and also profound victimization. we should never forget. we are going to take a break. when we come back, there's new information. poppy harlow and john berman has it for you. please, stay with cnn. tion by taking money from foreign governments and threatening to shut down news organizations that report the truth. if that isn't a case for impeaching

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