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the world. i'm john vause live in los angeles where it has just turned 10:00 here on the west coast. at this hour, air force one is expected to touch down in beijing. the third and possibly most important stop on the u.s. president's 12-day visit to asia. but before arriving in china, mr. trump called on beijing to do a lot more to end the nuclear threat from north korea. during an address to south korea's national assembly, the president offered the north koreans a better future through diplomacy. but he also directly warned kim jong-un not to mistake american restraint for weakness. >> today i hope i speak not only for our countries, but for all civilized nations. when i say to the north, do not underestimate us. and do not try us. >> north korea officials were apparently closely watching what the president had to say.

even before the speech they told cnn's will ripley, who was in pyongyang, we don't care about what the mad dog may utter because we've already heard enough." for more on this we're joined by paula hancocks in seoul. matt rivers is standing by in beijing. in los angeles, cnn political commentators dave jacobson and talk radio host and trump supporter john philips. paula, we'll start with you. a day earlier the president seemed to indicate his willingness to go into negotiations to make a keel. then this very blunt warning to north korea, specifically to kim jong-un. >> you know, this was an interesting speech, almost like he was trying a different tack. there were none of the blatant threats or the attacks on the north korean leader himself by calling him little rocket man, anything like that. but really the attack and the insults that we saw within this speech could well actually

offend north korea more than the threats of war. when you look at what he's talking about, he was talking about the stark contrast between north and south korea. the fact that in north orea the human rights abuses have been devastating over the years. the fact that the north korean leader is more concerned with his nuclear and missile program than he is with feeding his own people, talking of the famine, talking of the gulags. all of this, of course, based in fact. but the way he laid it out was really very cutting, very blunt. and it's something that quite likely the north korean regime is not going to take to at all. he also said that, talking about kyle illinoseung, the grandfath who founded north korea, saying north korea is not the paradise your grandfather envisioned, it is a hell that no person deserves. so it really went a lot further than many people really expected him to. not the threats to destroy north korea if need be but really

showing that he can take almost the moral high ground, showing that this is what north korea is, how can other countries support this? >> with that in mind, paula, we'll head to matt, who is in beijing. and matt, donald trump also called out russia and china during that speech. listen to this. >> all responsible nations must join forces to isolate the brutal regime of north korea, to deny it and any form, any form of it. you cannot support, you cannot supply, you cannot accept. we call on every nation, including china and russia, to fully implement u.n. security council resolutions, downgrade diplomatic relations with the regime, and sever all ties of trade and technology.

>> well, donald trump will be meeting with the chinese leader xi jinping in the coming hours. what is xi expected to say to donald trump? what will his reaction be to what he said just hours ago in seoul? >> john, you and i have spent the last year, two years now, talking about how china's strategic calculation when it comes to north korea has not really changed. yes, they've signed on to harsher, more tough sanctions drafted in the u.n. security council. but their strategic calculation that north korea continues to be a buffer against the u.s. and the south koreans and the southern part of the peninsula hasn't changed. whether that's going to change when donald trump comes here and meets xi jinping i think most analysts would scoff at that idea that over one day the chinese would really completely change their viewpoint on this issue. but one thing that donald trump pointed to during that speech that paula alluded to when she was talking, he really took the approach of almost an argument of morality, if you will. talking about how can countries

like china look at themselves in the mirror, if you will, and continue to support a regime that brutally starves its own people that puts them in forced labor camps that tortures political prisoners. how can you continue to support that regime, not only from a political security standpoint but from a moral argument standpoint? whether that lands here in china, whether that changes things at all, that's to be seen, it probably won't. but that gives maybe a glimpse into donald trump's thinking, what is he going to argue, how is he going to try to change xi jinping's mind and get china to use economic leverage against north korea, perhaps that morality argument might play into the trump administration's position here. >> good luck. matt, thank you. matt and paula hancocks live in seoul. our panel now, jake jane jacobson and john phillips. the speech wasn't the total disaster so many people had feared. there were concerns that donald trump would go off script that he would taunt kim jong-un, call

hill rocket man, that didn't happen. he was even talking about diplomacy at one point. but that came with one key demand before any negotiations can begin with north korea. listen to what he said. >> despite every crime you have committed against god and man, you are ready to offer and we will do that, we will offer a path to a much better future. it begins with an end to the aggression of your regime. a stop to your development of ballistic missiles. and complete, verifiable, and total denuclearization. >> okay, so on one hand, obviously there's now this off-ramp if you like, applying pressure for so long, now there's this offer of talks. but the precondition of ending the nuclear program is a nonstarter, roo it? so where does this go from here? >> i think he came off sort of all over the map. this is the guy who a couple of

weeks ago, a month ago, undercut his secretary of state who said, rex, the talking isn't working, give it up. then he shifted today to more of a diplomatic strategy. i think the tough talk with china in particular, i hope i'm wrong, but i think he's setting himself up for failure. china intensified sanctions against north korea, obviously i support and i think democrats and republicans agree, we want tougher sanctions against north korea. i just don't think there's necessarily going to be any movement on that front. if donald trump fails to deliver on this trip tomorrow, i think it's going to raise real questions of whether or not he's a weaker president and he actually can get china to do anything further on this issue. >> i guess it seems with this speech, donald trump now finds himself pretty much in the same position as the past several presidents have been. eventually he'll wrap his head around the fact that china is not going to solve this. >> he's a businessman and he wants to cut a deal. we make a mistake when we talk about how crazy kim jong-un is.

>> he's not. >> he looks weird, acts weird, does weird things. but in terms of being a thuggish, brutal dictatodictato quite rational. he's going over with carrots and sticks, trying to give the guy an off-ramp to avoid nuclear war, avoid a greater escalation to the trouble they're causing in the region, sticking to the themes he's talked about throughout the campaign and his presidency. china is the big dog in the region, nothing is going to happen without china on board. and they love to go to the u.n., they love to pass these grandiose resolutions about human rights. you can't be in favor of human rights and support that regime. they're mutually exclusive and i'm happy he called them out. >> absolutely, and it's been a long time since a u.s. president has been something like that. the problem though is, john, donald trump is assuming china's interests are the same as american interests. and they're not. and so until he sort of gets the point of realizing they are playing a different game this strategy seems to be a losing one. >> china has an economy that's

expanding, china likes to do business with us and with the rest of the world. if you want to continue to grow that economy and move into the 21st century, as they do, you need stability in that region. you can't have the launching missiles over japan into the ocean right and left. that creates stain footballty that could really damage their economy. >> another major part of the speech came with a warning to the north koreans. >> we will not permit america or our lallies to be blackmailed o attacked. we will not allow american cities to be threatened with destruction. we will not be intimidated. and we will not let the worst atrocities in history be repeated here on this ground we fought and died so hard to secure. >> dave that seems to be yet a whole lot of red lines being

drawn by this administration. which he has drawn before. which the north koreans have crossed. >> i mean, this sort of reminded me of his remarks at the u.n. general assembly where he essentially -- that was a thinly veiled threat, right in the challenge is i don't see how this moves the needle forward in terms of the conversation, in terms of getting china to do anything or to getting the north korean regime to move back from where they are right now. so i think that's the real issue is, how is donald trump going to change the current situation? because that speech didn't do it. >> also in that speech, there were some carrots, not a lot of specifics on the carrots. it came with a whole lot of sticks. >> i think you can't reinforce enough that if they attack us or one of our allies that it's game over for them. that kim jong-un has enjoyed his last taco bell with dennis rodman on planet effort. i think he's getting the message. >> he's getting the message, but we've heard from the statements that they put out beforehand that we're not listening, we're going to double down on our nuclear program. and donald trump made the point that these weapons are not

making you safer. which is contrary to every part of the ounce of their being in north korea. they believe that with nuclear weapons, that ensures the regime's survival. >> right, it makes them a player, it makes them a player on the global stage. what happens if they're shooting one of those thing in the air, whether it's just a test and something horrific happens and they end up accidentally hitting an ally of ours? it's game over for them. they need to know that. >> the president also had a message, he called on the rest of the world to act. >> the time for excuses is over. now is the time for strength. if you want peace, you must stand strong at all times. >> dave, what i found interesting about this is that there seems to be this sort of multi-national, multi-faceted approach, calling everyone to come together and work on this

problem. donald trump is a president who deals one on one in a transactional manner with countries. he doesn't work well in groups. >> he's not a collaborator. someone who knows how to build consensus. >> doesn't play well with others. >> he campaigned on the guy to be isolationist, to get us out of wars. now he's throwing threats all over the place. that's the challenge when you're donald trump is alienating your allies, whether nato allies, canada, mexico, you name it. he's cozying up to dictators like vladimir putin. there are massive global issues like north korea that need to be tackled through collaboration and bringing folks together. some of the key countries around the world. and donald trump has really alienated our key allies. it makes it difficult to develop solutions around issues like this. >> and john, finally, how does this all resonate with what dave was saying, with america first? >> well, i mean, national security is the first thing the government is supposed to do.

this guy could they're ritcally hit guam, hit the pacific coast of the united states, hawaii. looking out for america's national security interests is putting america first. >> if you're the president of the united states and saying, we don't care about anybody else, it's going to be us, we're number one, numero uno from now on. then he goes out there and says, but we need your help on north korea. >> well, ultimately the motivation is protecting the homeland, protecting the pacific coast. >> how do other countries do this? are you willing to help a country that says, it's all about us, but now we need your help. >> rocket man could point the missile at south korea, at hawaii, i think we're all in this together. >> chances are he won't point it at china and russia. okay. you guys are going to stick around, we'll take a short break. if you want to know how donald trump's republicans did in the latest round of u.s. elections, take a look at new jersey democrat phil murphy, he's a happy man. what made tuesday night a very good night for democrats. that's next here on "newsroom

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democrats are riding a wave of anti-trump sentiment through victory in virginia. ralph northam won the governorship over ed gillespie. democrats won races for lieutenant governor and attorney state general and appear poised to take a majority in the virginia statehouse. democrat phil murphy will be taking the state's top job which was held by chris christie, beating out the current lieutenant governor who was dragged down by dismal ratings for governor christie. thank you all for sticking around. thank you for being with us. john, the democrats say the governor's race was a referendum for donald trump, a bellwether for next year's midterm elections, why are they off? >> as tip o'neill said, all politics is local. this is a state that's gone for the democrats in three

consecutive presidential cycles. they have a history of electing whichever party did not win the white house to be governor. as was the case this particular time. you look at other states that are blue states where republican governors are doing very well. the state of massachusetts, charlie baker is the most popular governor in the country right now. larry hogan in the deeply blue state of maryland is the second-most popular governor in the country. i think the politics for this particular race were specific to that state as is the case with state and local politics in most cases. >> dave? >> i love you, john, but i don't buy that argument. there's no denying it. this was a referendum on donald trump. donald trump was on the ballot, he was attached at the hip with ed gillespie. and the fact is, you know, ralph northam outperformed hillary clinton with women, for example. he won with 21% of women. where hillary only 17%. what was fascinate was he outperformed donald trump, who won with married women by 1 point, and ralph of course won

by a whopping 9%. i think this was a body blow to the republican agenda but it's not just the top of the ticket. down-ballot democrats picked up four sate assembly seats, elected their first transgender member to the statehouse, two latinas to the statehouse. we're winning down-ballot, not just top ballot. we've flipped the new jersey governor's race, of course. and then, of course in seattle where there was this one sort of pivotal state senate race for control of the upper chamber in the state of washington, democrats are poised to win that race as well. this was a blue wave night. >> you've had a lot coffee tonight. >> just stating the facts. >> for weeks now democrats have been sweating bullets over this governor's race in virginia. you know, but why? because democrats have won every statewide race there since 2009. exit polls show that the u.s. president's approval rating among virginia voters at 42%. a little higher than the national average but still awful. if they couldn't win this

election, then what election could they win? they haven't won any up to this point. >> we were texting earlier today, i was nervous about this race. i'll be up front about it. the fact is the polls were closing in. it was a razor-thin margin. i think northam up by 2 points. something like that. he had some self-inflicted wounds that were totally unnecessary where he waffled on the sanctuary cities issue. then of course he was getting hit for not including his lieutenant governor candidate who's the first or the only, pardon me, african-american candidate on the ballot statewide in virginia. and he was getting knocked for not including him on campaign mailers. those are unforced errors that he shouldn't have been embracing. i think democrats were nervous going into this election because those are part of the issues. but also ralph northam is not a progressive, he's not a new democrat, not a elizabeth warren or bernie sanders-esque candidate, he's an establishment guy. right now you have an identity crisis within the national democratic party, there's no secret about that. but -- so i think that adds

credence to why democrats were nervous, this was kind of the establishment guy and a lot of democrats have been turned off. >> the republican ed gillespie, he kind of tried to have a bet each way here. he didn't really embrace donald trump, he didn't ask him to come to the state to campaign for him, for example. trump stayed away. but he did adopt a lot of the sort of trump campaign tactics. hitting immigration, race, all these issues. that seems to have been a losing tactic, at least in this election. what's the takeaway here for republicans? >> i mean, i don't think this is the big blue wave that dave was talking about. this was a state that's gone democrat a lot lately. and it went democrat. i think it's a sigh of relief for democrats because they took an election that a year ago they got their headed handed to them. it turned around this time and went the way they thought it was going to go. i actually give hillary clinton a lot of the credit for this race, i think it was her poor performance last time that got the democratic party so focussed and energized that they've been able to turn out as well as they

have. i think on the republican side, i don't fault ed gillespie as much as i fault a national republican party that really hasn't stood for anything and really hasn't accomplished anything as a party. i think it was really hard for him. he tried to tie into the trump agenda, but the trump agenda hasn't gone very far yet. and so i don't think there was any momentum for him to borrow from there. so i really think this was more about the last election and the democrats kind of getting their act together in virginia more than it was, is this going to be a precursor of what happens in the midterms next year? >> in his victory speech, governor-elect northam seemed to direct some of his comments to the president and republicans who follow his politics. >> today, virginians have answered and have spoken. virginia has told us to end the divisiveness that we will not condone hatred and bigotry. and to end the politics that

have torn this country apart. >> so john, that's it, it's all going to be friendly and nice from now on, no more gutter politics we've seen the last year or so. >> who would have thought this guy would think his election was the pivotal moment in american politics that changed the direction of the country? they have a screwy system where they have term limits, you can only serve one four-year term. the democrat incumbent is popular, his lieutenant governor ran and was leaked. i don't see this change is the course of american politics. i will say this, that the white people with college degrees that did turn out for north that will this time and voted for hillary clinton in the last presidential election, that is a trend that i think you will see in areas like northern virginia where they work for the government. but the exact opposite is true in states like ohio, west virginia, pennsylvania, where people who work in different industries, people who don't work for the government, are trending in the opposite direction. i think the problems the

democrats had before are the same today and the problem that the republicans had before are the same today as well. >> curious though, because one of the criticisms of gillespie is that he didn't embrace trump, but at the same time, he used sort of trumpian tactics. so do republicans look at that down the track and say, okay, we've got to move away from that kind of campaigning? race, immigration that sort of stuff? or do they just go full throttle, embrace that sort of trump campaign tactics, and embrace the president? >> well -- look. i think, you know, a nine-point loss is substantial. >> big, yeah. >> and, you know, i think if i'm a republican i'm thinking back to what barack obama said. i think after the 2010 election. which was, we had a shellacking tonight. right? so clearly the trump tactic didn't work. and i think also like, look, you're seeing in the national polling where donald trump's approval rating is starting to tick down below what we've seen historically, which has been mid-30s. the floor's starting to come out

and independents and soft republican trump people are starting to peel away from the president. i think he's having around 33%, 34% approval ratings. all these other republicans who are campaigning, whether it's 2017 or 2018, they're riding trump's coat tails. i think you'll start to see space and a little bit of a gap between them embracing him moving forward as we look to 2018. >> okay. even though the president is before dawn with three tweets on behalf of gillespie. ralph northam will allow crime to be rampant in virginia, weak on crime, weak on our great vets, anti-second amendment, has been horrible on virginia economy. ed gillespie will turn around the high crime and poor economic performance of virginia, ms-13, a crime gang, and crime will be gone, vote today asap. but the results came in, it was clear that he'd lost, ed gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what i stand

for, republicans won 4 of 4 house seats, with the economy doing record numbers we will continue to win even bigger than before. this is second time in the past few months the president has backed a losing candidate. what is the impact of this loss for a president who's already badly weakened? >> president trump is still trying to get some of his agenda through congress. and if he gets a win there, all of this goes away. you have these little wins and little losses along the way. the bottom line is if his agenda moves forward, if he's able to for example get the tax legislation through, i think that's going to be transformative. that's really going to define the midterm leaks. it's not going to be whether a candidate in a state where the democrats got really well organized, in my opinion, and came out and turned out the vote, actually managed to beat one of the candidates he endorsed. >> yeah, the headline really -- democrats win virginia isn't really shocking at the end of the day. but michael, thank you for being with us, welcome to the show for the first time. also john and dave, as always, thank you. up next here on "newsroom .

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welcome back. you're watching "cnn newsroom live from los angeles." i'm john vause. according to a police report the texas church shooter devin kelley escaped from a mental health facility five years ago after threatening military commanders. despite a history of jail time for domestic violence, he passed background checks and legally purchased a number of firearms, because the u.s. air force failed to report his conviction. kelley had attended the church where he killed 25 people and an unborn child. the pastor of the church, his 14-year-old daughter was among those killed, said he did not want kelley as part of his congregation. and from one survivor, a harrowing account of what happened inside that church last sunday. what she saw and heard as victims as young as 17 months

old died nearby. >> yeah, he said -- he heard him, i didn't, i had my ears covered what are did he say? joaquin? "everybody die [ bleep ]." that's what he said. "everybody's going to die [ bleep ]." that's what he said. >> can you describe what you thought the minute you saw him? was he shooting as he was walking in the door? >> yeah. he was going through the aisles all around with his -- it wasn't a handgun, it was a pistol or -- he was looking all around and shooting at everybody. just going through the rows, shooting at everybody. first he went in straight to where the guys that sing, they were up there, he shot them first. and the lady. i guess their mom or -- i don't know. they're related, i know. yeah, all that family got shot, yeah. he's the one that saw his face, i didn't, because i just saw his feet. i didn't even want to move. i knew that was going to be my last day to live. i did not even want to look at

his -- you know, i was hiding under the bench, i did not want to breathe, look, nothing. >> what happened next? >> so what happened next, he was shooting. he was shooting down. we could see -- me and him, he was trying to put his head on top of me. so he could try to prevent the bullets from coming down on us. a lot of us were together. me, him, some other -- a little boy, we were all laying around each other and screaming. what happened next, i told him to get out of there because this was going to be our last day to live. i told him, try to go somewhere where they're not shooting, save yourself, i told him, because i know i'm going to die here. i knew i was going to die. so he went kind of like towards the back of the church. i just went -- i don't even -- at that time, i don't even know what happened after that. because he, you know, he disappeared. and i was still there with the rest of the people there. and the guy was still shooting. he was shooting -- i mean, i

think he shot more than 300 shots. so then he -- it stopped for about i would say like five minutes. and then i guess he must have reloaded and started again. yeah, he reloaded. he had a second time to reload his gun and started shooting again. all these people screaming and bleeding and nobody would get there to save us from the shooter. so he's inside. after that after the second round, he was up there for a while, i guess seconds must have gone by, minutes, at least five more minutes and he was shooting. and everybody -- i could just see the people -- the bullets were coming right down. i could see it on the carpet, the bullets hitting, passing me like that, you know. and i could see it on the carpet. i said, if i don't move from here, i'm going to die. >> can you tell me where you were? >> i was on the bench, on the left bench. when you come inside, there's benches to the left and right. i was under the bench. >> when did you know you were

hit? how did you -- >> i didn't feel it. because i had taken my pain pill. i didn't feel it that much. but i saw blood coming out. because i had tooken my hydrocodone that i take for pain because i have a bone disease. i went like that and i saw the blood. but i knew i had been hit. i could feel it. >> your husband saw his face, you did not. >> no, he saw him when he ran outside. and when he came inside, he saw him. >> was he wearing a mask? >> no, he wasn't wearing a mask. joaquin? he was not wearing a mask. no mask, right? he wasn't wearing a mask? i just saw his shoes. i didn't want to look up or nothing to see. he saw where he was going so he could run out of the church. he was paying attention to him when he went and up shot the people that were up in the front, the guys, the family that passed away. and he was watching them so he could go through the front door. because he was like going through the aisles, shooting, looking, you know. walking around with his rifle.

>> had you seen the shooter before? >> not me. he had, he saw him outside. but this was a couple of months ago, six months back that he saw him outside of the church. >> did you pretend that you were dead as he walked by you? >> yes, yeah. he didn't walk by me, he did not walk by me. he was like in the middle. right when you go inside the door, he was in the aisle, he was pointing his rifle like that. he was looking. look over here, look over there. he was just shooting, tat, tat, tat, tat, tat, everything that moved that he could see. >> when you got up you saw what he did? >> when he left, i got up. 15, at least -- i waited 15 minutes or 20 minutes before i went outside. i wasn't about to go out there knowing that it was still dangerous. >> what did you see when you got up? >> blood dead people. dead bodies. dead children all over the place. outside. people screaming. looking for each other. it was terrible, terrible. all dead little bodies, dead with a whole bunch of blood.

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assembly in seoul, south korea. and there he had a very blunt warning for the north koreans, demanding an end to their nuclear program, also their illicit missile program as well. during that speech he actually called on china and russia to do a lot more to end that nuclear program. and of course that is now one of the key takeaways from this two-day meeting in china. will beijing actually be willing to do any more to try and end that nuclear program and missile program of the north koreans? china of course is north korea's best friend, only friend really in the world. a relationship between those two countries described as close as lips and teeth during the days of chairman mao. donald trump also warned the north koreans; don't underestimate us, don't take us on. it was a fairly stark warning in trumpian terms. as we wait for the president and the first lady to deplane as they like to say, we'll go live to beijing.

daniel lynch is a professor at the city university of hong kong. matt, beijing it seems is pulling out all the stops here for a very, very warm welcome for the u.s. president. what can we expect? >> yeah, this is going to be a highly symbolic visit here in beijing. the government here calling it a super state visit because of the special things that donald trump is going to be able to take part in. it's going to start this evening at the forbidden city inside the old imperial palace in beijing where the president and the first lady will get a tour alongside china's first lady and chinese president xi jinping. but perhaps more symbolic than just the tour is the fact that they're going to be eating dinner inside the forbidden city. it might seem like a minor point, but no u.s. president has ever been given that honor. the chinese are definitely really rolling out the red carpet for donald trump, big him an honor, something that he can point to and say, look, no other u.s. president has done this, i have a good relationship with xi

jinping, and you can prove it because we had dinner inside the forbidden city. china is definitely engaging in showing donald trump a good time, showing him that he's respected here in china, and they're hoping that that will have an impact on what they're able to accomplish from a diplomatic stand point. it's also worth noting, john, that xi jinping is doing that for his own domestic political audience as well, saying he can have dinner a place where emperors once ruled china. we know xi jinping has consolidated more power than any other chinese leader since chairman mao. xi jinping putting himself on the same toe to toe, really, with donald trump, two major world leaders that xi jinping views them as equals. >> daniel, just on that point about the way the chinese are describing this visit, china's ambassador to washington described the trip as a state visit plus. i've never heard that term used before. he went on to say, featuring talks, military honor guard, and formal banquets, and some special arrangements, whatever

that is. it does seem xi jinping has learned from france's emanuel macron, knowing donald trump likes a show. this is a case of flatter the ego and win the heart? >> yeah, i think we need to keep in mind, though, john, unlike russia, china under xi jinping has a real interest in the united states maintaining political stability and international strength. i think there are probably many opportunities for xi jinping during the last year to bake president trump, to try to get him to do something he might regret that might cause the united states to lose face or suffer some soft power hits internationally. he's refrained from doing that. i think it underscores that china recognizes, unlike russia, that in order for china's rise to continue or its economic growth to continue at even rates lower than but still healthy than in the recent past, it really needs a strong and stable united states. and so i also think -- so the welcome will be really warm and

impressive but i'd also highlight the impressive part. when donald trump rides in from the airport into the center of beijing, he'll drive down, ride down those wide thoroughfares with those huge, tall, imposing buildings, into tiananmen square. he's bound to be if he's like any other person, awestruck and recognizes he's in the center of an imperial capital of a very strong china. >> that drive from the airport down to the forbidden city, to tiananmen square, yes, it is very impressive. the chinese pull out all the stops. they beautify the city, they stop the factories so there's no pollution, they plant the flowers, they make the place look amazing. but what is interesting, though, is despite what's on the surface, if you look at what's behind the surface, in the u.s. we've just had this election in virginia, new jersey. virginia is the one where the democrats have swept the field. there's been this anti-trump wave, if you like. donald trump's opinion polls are at their lowest. we're seeing republicans resign out of protest because of his leadership style. this is a president under

investigation over russia's involvement in the election. and how close the trump campaign role what role the trump campaign played in that. this is a president who is not in a very strong position. negotiating with xi jinping, a president who has -- is in an incredibly strong position, the strongest position in china since how zay tune. that's a huge power imbalance right now for these two men. >> it is and i think that's why president trump will want some deliverables he can take home, some promises i think chinese companies, whether private or state-opened or some combination thereof, will make to purchase some u.s. goods, maybe invest in u.s. infrastructure. because of course president trump needs some victories on this trip. and i think because, again, the strategic interests that china under xi jinping has in the united states rehappying stable and prosperous, that the chinese side will give him some of those concrete victories. >> and we're just watching the u.s. president and the first

lady leave -- walking down the stairs from air force one. they're being greeted there on the tarmac. i can't see who's making up the delegation there, who's actually greeting the president. but you can see this is just the start of the pomp and circumstance for the president's visit to beijing. and so matt rivers, just to bring you back into all of this. >> one of the things we've talked to men and women based here, talking about access to china's markets. one of the things we've spoken a lot about here is the fact that china really, according to these people we've spoken to, has an unequal playing field for american business getting access

to the chinese market, having to partner with chinese companies. if you want to build cars, if you're ford you need to partner with a chinese company. you need to give certain quality control secrets to the chinese. you have to show the best practices, that kind of information, with the chinese. and what american companies say is that that makes their competitive balance, it skews it. it puts it in favor of the chinese. you see the chinese government favoring ining nascent industr. he's going to be looking at getting american companies a more equal playing field in china. >> the dreaded joint venture th venture with a state owned company in china. matt and daniel, stay with us. we are watching the u.s. president about to get into the limousine and do that impressive drive from the airport into the city. it is 1:51 on the east coast, 2:51 in the afternoon in beijing. we'll take a short break and be

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welcome back, everybody. a short time ago u.s. president donald trump touched down on air force one in beijing. it's going on 3:00 p.m. in china's capital. he will be wined and dined by communist leaders in the forbidden city. a rare honor for what is arguably the most famous capitalist and the first time a u.s. president has actually had that experience. he arrives in beijing after a visit to seoul and south korea, and while addressing the national assembly there, donald trump had a very stern warning for the north korean leader kim jong-un, saying don't underestimate or try the u.s. he also offered them hope of diplomatic talks to resolve the standoff with the north koreans over their nuclear and missile

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