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and could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs. call now to request your free decision guide. and learn more about the kinds of plans that will be here for you now - and down the road. i have a lifetime of experience. so i know how important that is. hello, i'm wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington, p.m. in riyadh. 2:00 a.m. thursday in beijing. wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks for joining us. wake-up call. exactly one year after his election, president trump facing a wave of democratic wins across america in what republican calls a rejection of trumpism. don't try us, the president with a stern warning to north korea as nuclear tensions rise and just in, kim jong-un's regime now responding.
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plus, unusual requests. new word that president trump urged the cia director to meet with a conspiracy theorist over russia's meddling in the presidential election. you'll hear why. up first, democrats dominate. they're celebrating the party's first big election victories of the trump era. meanwhile the president on his trip faces a shifting political landscape back home. the virginia governor's race was a major win for the democrats. ralph northam defeated ed gillespie by a wider than expected margin. northam won by nine points in who was predicted to be a close contest. president trump was quick to distance himself from the losing gop candidate tweeting this, "ed gillespie worked hard but did not embrace employee or what i stand for. don't forget, republicans won four out of four house seats and with the economy doing record numbers, we will continue to win even bigger than before."
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but a virginia congressman blamed the loss on the president's divisive rhetoric. >> democrats showed up last night. there's no question about it. so i think when you look at those factors, you can certainly attribute some things to perhaps the candidate gillespie, as well, too. but there was an overwhelming thing that was looming large. that was i think divisive rhetoric. you've heard me say i support the president not blindly. if i agree with him, i say it, if i don't, i don't. last night was a referendum. i don't think there's any way that you can look at it in a different way. >> let's get perspective on the election. the political road ahead from our panel. we have our cnn political analyst david gregory and chief political analyst gloria borger. you just heard scott taylor say this was a referendum on trump. he's very blunt. he's a trump supporter but says things have to presumably change. >> yeah, we heard that from former senator rick and tore rum
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last night during our election coverage. i think that donald trump may tweet that ed gillespie didn't embrace him enough, didn't bring him into the state. but i think what ed gillespie tried to do was the trumpism without trump as steve bannon called it except when you're trying to do that, you ought to do it in a place where the president's popular. he's not popular in a lot of states including virginia last night. and in the exit polls, we saw that 57% of those those people who went to the polls said they had disapproved of donald trump's performance and half of the voters said trump was a factor in their vote. and by a 2-1 margin they went for northam. so it's a problem. >> yeah, and gloria's right. trumpism without trump in virginia clearly failed. >> it's a blue state. it's trending more blue. we've seen a history of the party in power losing the governor's race that comes after they get elected. all of those forces were against
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the republicans. but the narrative that had already been written had gillespie pulled it off and closed strong although there was a big margin lost by was he was able to thread the needle and this was the prescription for how you run in the trump era as a more moderate republican. it didn't work. democrats came out big, voted scared. every big democrat in the country said you'd better vote or else. for them it was waterloo if they had not prevailed. republicans were divided. when you see all the retirements and republicans speaking out against trump, they have to have some place to go. that represents more of the middle of the electorate, suburban more that instream more corporate republicans like outside of richmond in virginia, those are people who voted democrat last night. that's what could reverberate. >> if i'm a suburban republican congressman right now, i'm scared. that's why we're going to see more retirements of those kinds of republicans in the house.
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i think it's not too early to say that the house is really in play right now. >> really? >> yeah, if you get these kinds of retirements where you've got moderate republicans retiring and you've got this kind of enthusiasm on the democratic side, you know, nothing so organized as a political party like an enemy. and we saw that in the republican election, in, the election in 2016. and now we're seeing it with democrats because while they have their own disagreements and we know there are a lot, what we saw last night was unity against donald trump. so he can try and play it any way he wants. but this was a rejection of him. >> the speaker paul ryan was reacting this morning. let me play a clip of what he said. listen to this, david. >> it doesn't change my -- it emphasizes which is we have a promise to keep and we have to get on with keeping our promise. one of the chief promises we
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made when we ran for office whether it's the president or congress in 2016 was we would do tax reform and tax cuts. if anything this puts more pressure on making sure we follow through. >> he says it puts more pressure on the republicans to follow through and get their tax cuts passed and puts pressure on moderate republicans maybe to reconsider those tax cuts. >> i think that's right. i think achievement is a key part of what republicans have to run on and say we've got power. this is what we did for you. sotach reform is a big part of that. health care is something that ultimately hurt them. look at exit polls in a state like virginia, people were more favorable about obamacare. that could hurt republicans as well. there's the cultural effects, did i visiveness of president trump, a kind you have cultural arsonist in our political culture. that's the part that is splitting apart the republican
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party and that is yibting the democratic party. but what a midterm race, a special election does not create is the president against someone else. and until we see what that looks like, then it's a different kind of dynamic. it can purely be a referendum on what has not yet been done. that can hurt republicans right now. >> i think that happens in presidential years. and so for now, the democrats don't have a standard bearer which is probably good at this point for them. and what they had in northam in virginia was a more moderate democratic candidate who fit the state. and so the decision the democrats. >> didn't necessarily fit where the democratic party appears to be going. >> exactly. so that's the decision that the democrats have to make, which is do you actually get candidates who fit their districts? or fit their state or are you going to require cookie cut a c candidates who go to the left
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and say this is a litmus test for all our democratic candidates unless you adhere to that, you're not going to run on the democratic party. >> he'll kick off his big book tour. there's going to be a lot more groundswell for him. >> could be. >> when does that book come out. >> november, middle of november. >> this is november. >> it's coming. >> it is, next week. i think it comes out next week. >> it will be interesting to hear what he has say to say. >> it's a personal book about his son. >> i'm sure when he does interviews there will be other subjects that come up. to president trip's asia trip and stern message to north korea. "don't mess with us." the president staying away from his fire and fury and little rocket man rhetoric but still offing this strong rebuke of kim jong-un. >> i hope i speak not only for our countries but for all civilized nations when i say to the north, do not underestimate us.
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and do not try us. the weapons you are acquiring are not making you safer. they are putting your regime in grave danger. every step you take down this dark path increases the peril you face. north korea is not the paradise your grandfather envisioned. it is a hell that no person deserves. >> after the speech, the president went traveled to china to begin discussions there about north korea, as well. we're going to have more on that in a moment. but what was the response to the president's speech. north korea? our will ripley is in the capital pyongyang. >> wolf, president trump's speech in south korea hitting a nerve on a very sensitive issue here in north korea. human rights. something that the north has tried to defend itself against,
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long-standing allegations of widespread human rights abuses in this country with political dissenters being imprisoned in gulags and forced to endure sub human conditions. the north fires back. they say that they have created a safe predictable collective society and they say it's the united states that is chaotic and dangerous and violating citizens human rights, an argument many around the world would find laughable. that's the narrative they tell their citizens. i'll read you a portion of an article put out in north korea's leading newspaper ahead of trump's speech because there hasn't been any official response to the speech itself. this article does touch on this important issue of human rates say "the u.s. should not impugh dentally style itself as a human rights judge but mind its own poor human rights records in its land where racial discrimination, gun related crimes and all other social crimes prevail." that is the same argument thrown back at me many times over the years which i asked north korean officials about these
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allegations of human rights abuse. they also before and after the president's speech saying that they aren't taking his words seriously trying to downplay the impact of the speech telling us "we don't care what that mad dog may utter because we've already heard enough." they say the situation on the peninsula is the most tense it has ever been since the korean war, a very bode statement and they say they're completely justified to continue their missile tests as a time and place of their choosing given the fact that there are dozens of u.s. warships in the pacific ocean right now preparing to engage in another round of joint military exercises. would he have in. >> will, thanks very much. will ripley in pyongyang, new york. as republicans race to finalize their tax bill, a big setback just in involving the price tag. we'll speak live with a husband republican in charge of the process to get -- we'll get his response. plus, president trump directing the head of the cia to meet with a conspiracy theorist about whether the dnc e-mail hack was
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an inside job. you'll hear what happened during that meeting. and trying to convince democrats to support the republican tax plan. president trump revealed a phone call he had with his personal accountant about how the plan impacts him personally. but do the facts add up?
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there's breaking news coming in from capitol hill. the congressional budget office just released its report on the republican tax bill. what it will cost, the deficit will increase dramatically. let's quickly go to phil mattingly up on capitol hill with a special guest. phil, go ahead. update our viewers. >> reporter: thanks a lot. i'm here with ways and means chairman kevin brady running the show here now on day three. hour 22 of this markup process. i want to start with what wolf was talking about. we saw the score what it would add to the deficit over $1.5 trillion target you guys were shooting for.
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you've got space here. will you get it back down to 1.5 trillion by the end of this markup? >> the answer is yes. well, before we take the house to the rules committee to go to the floor, yes. it will be within our budget to instructions of $1.5 trillion. it's not unusual to have amendments take it up or down. those amendments aren't scored necessarily at the time. but they inform us of how and ultimately we will get to the senate's instructions. >> i want to talk, you guys made a lot of promises in terms of what this do in terms of a tax cut. if you look at the joint committee on taxation on average across the board, there's a tax cut. also in that same analysis, as soon as 2019, individuals making between $70,000 and $100,000, 11% would see a tax increase. are you comfortable with that right now? >> one thing the joint tax made clear, there is tax relief in every income bracket. as we continue to work through the bill and continue to look at these provisions, at the end of the day i'm confident we'll have tax relief at every income level
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for many americans. >> every income level isn't every american. there's an understanding people will see their taxes go up in some areas. >> i think every american will be better off because that measures the wages and the taxes of it. what we're trying to focus on are paychecks. they've been stagnant if you look at joint tax almost 20 years. people are living paycheck to paycheck. so this is both about getting tax relief, getting jobs back to america getting those paychecks growing, as well. all of that is important especially the middle class. >> you've been talking to your members about the boost in economic growth, the boosts in wages. that's a tough thing to show, a tough thing to sell especially before a dynamic score. are you confident that that is absolutely going to happen? you can promise right now that that will happen? i absolutely believe it will. here's why. look, we're struggling up till recently under the president trump, we've been struggling at less than 2% growth. it has hurt so many families.
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now we're at 3%. tuck already tell the optimism and the feeling. if we continue to grow the economy and we can compete and win around the world so those jobs come back to america, families will be better off, communities will be better off. >> talk about deficit. speaker ryan this morning was talking how the $300 family credit you have in that phases out currently after five years, will essentially be defactoer. the because everybody's going to want to kind of reup that at some point or another. you're doing it for budget reasons. that will add to the deficit. how is it possible when senator mcconnell says this not add to the deficit at all. >> are you confident that is accurate? >> congress will have to decide in five years whether they keep this enhanced family credit. we've doubled the number of americans who get help for the first time with the child tax credit. the new family credit adds even more features to it. we think that's important. we've sunseted it in five years so congress can look at the
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impact. i'm hopeful they'll take a look at it in a positive way. we're going to give them that option. >> more detailed question. individual mandate raises a lot of money and commingles health care in with tax reform. you haven't said where that's going. will that end up in this bill? >> no decisions have been made. we saw one of the scores today from the congressional budget office about it. we asked for a score what it would do related to tax reform. we're listening to members. certainly listening to the president and others. no decision has been made yet. >> last one. we've always known the senate will in some elements a different looking bill than have you. how can you convince your members to vote for something that could ultimately change or look very different when the opposite chamber gets a shot at it. >> this process is a healthy one. we'll look to improve our bill at every step. we hope the senate passes their best version of tax reform, as well. i'm confident we will find common ground in the end. >> mr. chairman, thank you very much.
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wolf, 22 hours and a lot of diet cokes later still working through the tax reform markup. back to you. >> these next 48 hours will be critical. please thank the chairman for all of us. thanks very, very much. let's get reaction from senator hire reason na, a democrat from the hawaii joining us from capitol hill, a member of the armed services committee, judiciary committee. what do you think of what the chairman had to say about the republican tax bill? >> their tax bill will add $1.7 trillion to the deficit. so there's no accident that the budget that the senate passed over the objections of the democrats cuts $1 trillion from medicaid and half a trillion from medicare. so they're going to have to go after what some supreme described as entitlement programs. the programs that are in that bucket would be medicare, medicaid, social security. >> but you know senator, president trump during the campaign and since taking
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office, he has promised the american people that there will be no change, no cuts to the entitlement program. social security, medicare, and medicaid. he's told that to republican members of the senate and the house. what are you saying? they're still going to go ahead and disavow what the president is promising? >> the president promises a lot of things but he does the exact opposite. and note that i believe that he supported the republicans budget plan which calls for cuts in medicaid and medicare. so what the president says and what he actually does are twos very different things. >> all right. let's get to other important issues while i have you. north korea, what did you think of the president's speech last night before the south korean national assembly? >> considering that he's been engaging in a lot of fiery rhetoric that has not helped the situation at all with regard to north korea, he was quite subdued. and some would say even rational. but he was speaking from a written remarks. i think it's a really low bar
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when we expect the president when we are thankful that he didn't go off the rails in his remarks to one of our most important allies in the asia-pacific region. >> do you see any evidence, senator, that his working with the chinese leadership to squeeze the north koreans is paying off? >> there are some indications that these efforts are having an effect. but frankly, woo need to really shore up and strengthen tillerson's efforts to have a diplomatic resolution to this crisis that we're facing with regard to north korea and, of course, we know that the president has undercut his own secretary in that regard. >> he suggested that the diplomatic back channel route was a waste of time. >> yes. >> although he did say last night in his speech he's open to some sort of diplomatic solution. he hopes there will be a
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diplomatic solution but north korea has to give up its nuke clearing weapons. is that at all realistic? do you think north korea will give up that nuclear program? >> that is why a diplomatic resolution diplomatic efforts need to be strengthened. we don't even have an ambassador to south korea named yet. if the president considered this part of the world to be that important, which it is, we should at least have the ambassador to south korea named. i have called for it. others have called for that to happen. so far, nothing. so once again, we're grateful that he didn't add, you know, more rhetoric that did not help the situation during his trip. we're grateful for that, but i don't know how long he can keep that up because the next tweet could undo the perspective that he show and that the restraint even that he showed in his remarks. >> even while he's in china right now, he's tweeting, but
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i'll get to that in a moment. in fact, let's get to it right now. look at this tweet. congratulations to all of the deplorables and the millions of people who gave us a massive 304/227 electoral landslide victory on the one-year anniversary of his win. what's your reaction to that and to the democrats' impressive wins last night? >> i think once again, the president does not pay attention to reality. and he used this trip as yet another opportunity to call attention to himself and what happened in virginia with gillespie going after the trump votes and being very divisive in his campaign which was repudiated by the voters in virginia who said health care is what they cared about most, which says to me that the voters of virginia understood the difference between republicans and democrats. democrats want to protect their health care, republicans want to take the health care away. and they figured out that
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difference. and that has a lot to do with the results not to mention that they were very motivated. the trump voters apparently were not. i hope as motivated. i hope this is some kind of a course correction for our country that we'll come together and the people who speak to the actual concerns of our voters such as health care, such as infrastructure, job creation, that those are the people who are going to prevail after, of course, we organize and take nothing for granted. i'm hopeful that this is a sign of good things to come in the 2018 elections. >> because new jersey's even though they've had a republican governor for the last eight years, chris christie pretty much a democratic state. virginia has gone democratic in the presidential elections in recent cycles including hillary clinton winning it last year. so if you're a democrat, you don't want to draw too.lessons from what happened last night, right? >> no, the lesson is we need to stay the course and we need to
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make sure that people understand that it is the democrat who's want to protect their health care. it is the democrats who want to make sure we're not doing tax so-called tax reform that gives all the goodies to the richest 1% of the people in our country. and more profits to corporations which will not result in increased wages. that hasn't happened before. so you have the republican chair of ways and means saying well i believe it's going to happen. it hasn't happened before. so that's not reality. what's going to happen is there will be more profits for the richest people in our country and corporations and dplun of that will trickle down to the people who might get a little bit of tax relief. you already said in the -- down the road, this is going to hurt. then for a state like hawaii when you have massive cuts to recover that $1.7 trillion that will be added to the deficit, that means states like hawaii will have less resources from the federal government. we're going to need to cut
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education programs. social service programs, other perhaps that the people of hawaii depend on. they and our families. >> and that's the breaking news this hour. congressional budget office estimating that the republican tax plan as it currently stands will explode the deficit by $1.7 trillion. the national debt. senator, thanks so much. for joining us. mazie lirono of hawaii. up next, the cia director raising eyebrows after mighting with a conspiracy theorist that was president trump's idea. plus, as the president visits china, three ucla basketball players arrested for alledgedly shoplifting there. is there any chance account president intervenes? .a sick da dads don't take sick days... dads take dayquil severe. the non-drowsy, coughing, aching, fever, sore throat... ...stuffy head, no sick days medicine.
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stunning new developments involving the cia director mike pompeo. intelligence sources say he met
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with a conspiracy theorist some two weeks ago at the request of president trump. the sources say the president asked him to meet with william binney, who circulated a conspiracy theory about the leaked democratic e-mails last year. he believes the leak was an inside job not a cyber attack by russian hackers even though the u.s. intelligence community concluded that russia did interfere in the 2016 presidential election. the journalist who broke the story james risen is with us and chief security correspondent jim sciutto has been working the story, as well. jim, let me start with you. a james and a jim. this is a significant development. tell us why. >> because this is the head of the central intelligence agency whose agency along with others who looked into russian interference in the election concluded with confidence that it was russia who engineered and
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orchestrated this interference in the election. so you have that. but he took the time to sit down at the urging more significantly you might say of the president with someone who many in the intelligence community view as a conspiracy theorist on this who proffers this idea the dnc hack was an inside job. i'm told a lot of people inside the agency were very uncomfortable with had meeting. i'm also told frankly director pompeo doesn't take his theory very seriously. this binney's theory this was an inside job. he doesn't take it seriously and yet he took the meeting after i'm told weeks of pressure from the president specifically. raises questions as to why he did and also what that says to other members of the intelligence community who took part in this assessment that russia was behind it. >> you wrote a very important article and broke the story in the intercept, james. let me remind viewers and have you it in your article, in january, the cia, fbi, nsa,
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intelligence community concluded and i'll read a sentence or two "russian president validity mir putin ordered and influenced campaign in 2016 apd at the u.s. presidential election. russia's goals were to undermine faith in the u.s. democratic process, denigrate secretary clinton and harm her electability and potential presidency. we further assess putin and the government developed a clear presence for president-elect trump." binney and you report extensively believes this was an inside job, someone at the dnc leaked all those hacked e-mails. >> right. yeah, his belief is based on what a lot of people think is a flawed assessment and analysis of information that was put online by some bloggers and also the infamous guccifer 2, if you followed this story at all, you know that there's this mysterious online personality
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called jews gus fer 2.0 who most people now believe is just a front for russian intelligence. he put after the hack, he put a lot of information online about how the hack was supposedly done which the information is not necessarily credible but binney and a few other people have looked at that data and said that means it had to be an inside job because it is couldn't have been hacked remotely. that's their theory. and it is very conveniently goes aligns with trump's view that he didn't collude with the russians. the russians didn't try to attack the american election system. and that this is all fake news. and so binney has been on fox news about ten times. including before this meeting talking about his views. and trump you know, apparently told pompeo you've got to meet with this guy.
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and in late october, you know, pompeo met with him and while he may try -- you know, their spin today may be well, this wasn't -- he doesn't believe it, he met with him for more than an hour and then he told him at the end of the meeting i want you to meet with nsa and fbi officials and help them work on this analysis. and so either pompeo was making a gesture to placate trump or he is willing to really go down the road of supporting trump and opposing the intelligence community. >> there's no indication anyone else in the nsa or cia or director of national investigation is meeting with binney. >> not yet. >> binney yesterday said he has not heard from the fbi or nsa yet. he said first of all, that pompeo started the meeting by saying the president told me i should speak with you. and ended the meeting by saying would you be interested in meeting with the nsa or fbi. >> very quickly, have you spoken to anyone, you're well plugged
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in and reporting on this intelligence area for a long time, james. have you spoken to anyone with credibility currently inside the u.s. intelligence community who disputes this january assessment? >> no, i think it's widely considered the truth. the problem that comes from having this meeting between the director of the cia and binney is that it shows the potential for the politicalization of the intelligence process where information is coming from right wing sources to the president. he's then forcing the intelligence, the leaders of the intelligence community to meet with him and then have this go from right wing media to the white house into the blood stream of the intelligence community. >> the president clearly does not want to believe that the russians interfered in the election. he sees that simply as an excuse that the democrats concocted why hillary clinton lost the
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election. he's been consistent through the campaign and since becoming president. >> he's raised those same doubts since he's become president as recently as interviews this summer. >> good work. thanks very much, jim sciutto, james risen. just ahead, explosive new accusations against kevin spacey from a former tv news anchor, what she says the actor did to her son. plus, as the u.s. stands up for saudi arabia, trump administration very close with the saudis right now may be running the risk of pushing the arab kingdom into a war with iran. closer look at the tensions currently escalating between the saudis and iranians when we come back. i have been diagnosed with stage 4 prostate cancer.
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now condemning missile attacks on kingdom by yemen's hughty militia. saab shot down a missile fired from yemen over the weekend while iran has denied it was behind the launch. the white house issued this statement. "hugh think missile attacks against saab enabled by iran's islamic revolutionary guard corps threatened region security and undermine the u.n. efforts to negotiate an end to the conflict. the united states will the continue working with like minded partners to respond to the attacks." with us, national security cleanser gail lee monday and heather connelly. gail, this is an exploding situation right now because if. the saudi government, the foreign minister is accusing iran of an act of war because of this missile attack, who knows where it's going to lead. >> this is the question. you have the trump administration's very public
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mistrust of iran converging with saudi arabia's real mistrust of iran and this moment where you're talking about both cracking down on corruption from the saudi side and consolidating power from saudi arabia's new leaders. the question is where does it end and how much support will this have in the region. >> how do you see it, heather. >> you're seeing external activism. you have to keep in mind yemen, you have of course, the blockade the boycott of qatar, lebanon and now she is internal challenges. we don't really have a good picture internally what's happening but an act of war this robust language put aside also syrian, the syrian conflict which has a very strong iranian ground element to it, it's incredibly volatile. >> the saudis fighting the rebels in yemen. they see them as an arm of the iranian revolutionary guard. the same thing with hezbollah in lebanon and all of a sudden over the past few years prime minister hariri steps down
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saying he's afraid of assassination. >> this comes as an announcement inside saudi arabia. >> he made the announcement in saudi arabia. >> exactly who is in charge, there were all kinds of press questions is this a saudi leadership and they're saying no it's not. what's fascinating from the united states side is throughout the conflict, the u.s. military has been very worried about hezbollah and rising iranian influence in the region. now this is coinciding with regional politics. >> it looks like it's the work of the new crown prince of saudi arabia. the trump administration issued a statement last night supporting the king, supporting the crown prince. total support for the saudis right now. how is that playing? >> right. president trump is very, very supportive of this young crown prince who really wants to transform saudi arabia. his vision for 2030, very robust action against iran's regional policy, something that the president has been very focused
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on, as well. the question, is it working with our overall policy. the boycott of qatar, you had secretary tillerson sill trying to patch that together. we have 11,000 u.s. forces in qatar. a major base that helps with fighting i.c.e. you have all of these competing interests. who is putting this whole policy together? and how is the united states shaping it? it's very unclear. >> how worried should we be about actual conflict, military conflict between the saudis and iranians. >> we should be concerned. there is as interest in stability on all sides but the rhetoric does have an ability to lead to miscalculations. i think that is where a lot of people are saying cooler heads should prevail. u.s. diplomacy should get involved. but who speaks for the administration? i do think that is part of the question that regional powers are eking to answer. the saudi leadership has the entirely full throated support from the united states administration. it's very hard to see how there had be any check on what saudi
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arabia wants to do right now. >> clearly the president speaks for the administration and he's speaking through his tweets and his official statements total support for the saudis right now. >> the other question is where our allies are. we had foreign secretary british foreign secretary boris johnson on the hill talking about making sure that the iran nuclear agreement stays intact. where are our other allies in they will be directly impacted by this. we need a concerted effort. i hope someone's coordinating this. >> thanks very much for coming in. we'll continue to follow the story. the vice president mike pence is on his way to texas right now to visit survivors and victims of sunday's mass shooting. this as we're learning new details on those who lost their lives. their stories when we come back. ♪ eras. they're defined by accomplishments. by victories. by those with the resourcefulness, the ingenuity, and the grit
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first baptist church in sutherland springs. one family lost three generations in matter of seconds and that's one of the many very emotional accounts as family members take time to reflect on their loved ones. >> 26 lives ended sunday. ages 77 to just 17 months old. 16-year-old haley krueger was among those killed. described as vibrant 16-year-old who loved life. she wanted to be a nurse in the neonatal intensive care unit. >> thee was amazing and we'll miss her. we'll never be the same. >> reporter: then there was
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14-year-old annabel pomeroy daughter of the pastor. she loved participating in church events. >> one thing that gives me a sliver of encouragement is the fact that they were surrounded yesterday for her church family that she loved fiercely. >> reporter: the church's visiting pastor brine holcombe was killed alongside wife carla and son danny and granddaughter noah. youngest victim 17 months old. the couple's son john was also shot and remains in the hospital. but wife crystal was killed. she was two months pregnant. three of her five children, emily, megan, and greg, were also killed. in all, they lost eight members of their family. three generations gunned down that terrible morning. also, among the victims terra mcnulty a close family friend of the hole combs and grandmother in law lulia white and frequent
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volunteer at the church. they were high school sweet hearts married over 30 years served on the praise team at the church. ♪ sing praise ♪ sing praise >> i know my son and my daughter-in-law are in the arms of jesus. i know that. >> reporter: joe and ward was killed as she tried to shield her four young children pushing one under a pew and covering the others with her body. two of her daughters age five and 7 did not survive. robert and karen marshall had recently moved to texas from pennsylvania. they were visiting the church thinking about joining. at 77 dennis johnson was oldest victim of sunday's shooting. churchill der. his wife sara also died in the shooting. recently celebrated 44th wedding anniversary. and richard rodriguez attended
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services every sunday. the couple had been married for 11 years. and adored their family. >> my heart is breaking. you were the last person i had, and now he's gone. ooh ohh here we go, here we go. you got cut off there, what were you saying? oooo. oh no no. maybe that geico has been proudly serving the military for over 75 years? is that what you wanted to say? mhmmm. i have to say, you seemed a lot chattier on tv. geico. proudly serving the military for over 75 years. you ok back there, buddy?
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