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time moore was allegedly having improper contact with underage girls he was on a watch list at a local shopping mall. >> we talked about other people, and then somebody said and don't forget about roy moore. and i asked what about roy moore, and they said well he's banned from the mall. i said why is he banned, and the police officer wouldn't tell me. he said if you see him, let me know, i'll take care of it. >> reporter: so what did you eventually learn as to the reason why he was banned from the mall? >> i was told he was bothering girls in the mall. >> reporter: in what way? >> i don't know exactly. that he was approaching them and talking to them. >> reporter: girls. when you're saying girls -- >> teenage girls. >> there's new will reporting as well in the latest effort by republicanps in washington to persuade moore to get out of the race by cutting off campaign
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dollars. we begin with the attorney general of the yaibs and his selective melry when it comes with contacts with russia. assuming that he did, it would make him one for three in such peerns pee appearances on the subject. on two prior occasions he's raised his right hand, sworn to tell the truth and said things that were not truth. today he denied misleading anyone. >> i can only do my best to answer your questions as i understand them and to the best of my memory. but i will not accept and reject accusations that i have ever lied. that is a lie. >> to the best of my memory he says. as you'll see momentarily, that memory is not consistent. november 10th senator sessions
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said this when senator al franken asked him what he would do in the followingsation. >> if there's any evidence that anyone affiliated with the trump campaign communicated with it russian government in the course of this campaign, what will you do? >> senator franken, i'm not aware of any of those activities. i have been called a surrogate a time or two in that campaign. and i did not have communications with the russians. ask i'm unable to comment. >> a week later when asked in writing by senator patrick leahy, have you been in contact before or after election day, senator sessions said no. keep in mind this denial was false. he did not list the encounters
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on the disclosure form. he listed plenty of others but not that. senator franken wasn't buying it. so last month when he rose his right hand and swore to tell the truth, here's what he said when questioned by senator franken. >> now, is that what you're saying, that you don't believe that surrogates from the trump campaign had communications with the russians? is that what you're saying? >> i did not, and i'm not aware of anyone else that i did. and i don't believe if happened. >> and you believe it now? >> i don't believe it happened. >> well, that turned out to be false. here's the meeting on march 31st of last year which george papadopoulos mentioned ongoing conversations setting up a meeting between candidate trump and vladimir putin.
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his words today were i forgot. >> i would like to address recent news reports regarding meetings during the campaign attended by george papadopoulos and carter page among others. frankly, i had no recollection of this meeting until i saw these news reports. >> in fact on russia and other subjects this wasn't the first time today that the attorney general's memory failed him. >> i do not recall such a conversation. i don't recall it. i don't recall. i don't recall. i don't recall. i don't recall it. i don't recall that. i don't recall how that exactly occurred. i do not recall, but i did not recall this event. i don't recall. i don't recall at this moment sitting here, any such discussions. >> so having established his memory can be hazy at time and he did not recall even having had the march meeting until he saw it on the news, attorney
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general sessions did reveal he does remember in very specific detail hat he did the right thing. >> i do now recall that the march 2016 meeting at the trump hotel that mr. papadopoulos attended. but i have no clear recollection of the details of what he said at that meeting. after reading his account and to the best of my recollection i believe that i want today make clear to him that he was not authorize to represent the campaign with the russian government and any other government for that matter. >> so he says it's all about doing the right thing. that said this is the third time jeff sessions has given testimony on contact with russia. it's a big deal. it's the kind of thing you'd think you might remember. our justice correspondent pamela brown was at the hearing. she joins us now.
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so jet another day, another hearing where the attorney general has difficulty recalling things when it comes to anything to do with russia. >> and he was certainly grilled about that, peppered are questions from democratic lawmakers why he's suddenly remembering the trump contacts with russians that he didn't recall before during past hearings. sessions admitted today after media reports surfaced about that march 2016 meeting where george papadopoulos suggested setting up a meeting between putin and donald trump. only then did he recall pushing back against papadopoulos' suggestion. but he made pretty clear that's the only detail he recalls from that meeting. he also said he doesn't remember anything about carter page meeting where he met with russians, although page said he told sessions through passing he was going to moskow. and he repeatedly said he did not recall contacts with russians explaining it was easy to forget those things in the
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midst of a chaotic campaign. but sessions today testified he has never lied or misled congress under oath regarding what he could recall at the time,andy. >> session was also asked about how he forgot his meeting with russian diplomat sergey kislyak. >> in this meeting he was focused on responding to the congress he was engaging and continuous with russian intermediaries. he says that part wasn't true, but he said that didn't meet he'd never met a russian in the history of his life. but a reminder here that "the washington post" previously reported that sergey kislyak told that sessions met and claimed that the two had substantive conversations about campaign related matters. sessions as you know initially failed to disclose his contacts with kislyak and then said that the meetings were not about the
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trump campaign. anderson. >> pamela brown, thanks very much. what spreurprised a lot is how attorney general answered questions without -- even if it caused friction with some democrats on the panel. >> parliamentary inquiry mr. chairman. >> is there authority in this committee to permit a witness to refuse to answer a question without properly invoking a privilege? and if not what is the appropriate response from the chairman to enforce the committee's ability to do proper oversight? mr. chairman, if i may be heard, i do not believe there's any such privilege or any right to assert a refusal to answer questions because -- >> the gentleman is not
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asserting a parliamentary -- >> you're going to prevent us from getting answers to these questions. >> that was congressman david sis linny, democrat of rhode island. i spoke to him earlier this year. congressman, isn't this unusual to have people appearing before congress and choosing not to answer questions without having executive privilege invoked? >> it's very unusual. this is pattern for the toej. he comes before a committee takes an oath to testify truthfully and fully. and when he gets to question he's uncomfortable with he'd say i can't answer that or i'm not comfortable answering that. you have to have some legal basis not to testify truthfully and fully, and he didn't have a basis. i then pressed the chairman to direct the witness to answer the question. you know, we have oversight responsibility. witnesses don't get to pick and
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choose what they want to answer. so it's very unusual. but it's disappointing that the republican chairman and other members allowed that to happen and really did not allow us to do meaningful oversight that we're required to do. >> do you think the attorney needs to come back and answer the questions he didn't answer today? >> absolutely. and he needs to come back again and take the same oath and be directed by the chairman to answer the questions of the committee. >> the attorney general says he's never lied about russia, that any inconsistencies were the result of poor memory, do you believe him? because he said he didn't remember things and then suddenly he remembered his conversations with george papadopoulos until he said he heard about it on the news and he remembered the specifically he told papadopoulos not to represent the campaign with russia. >> i asked when did these
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memories come back to you, and he said when i read it in the paper. and then i asked him if he received e-mails and that's where he declined to answer. this is an example where the attorney general of the united states went before the senate committee, took the same oath to testify truthfully and omitted or denied knowing about any contacts between the trump organization and the russians. only when it becomes public by another source does he acknowledge that in fact those contacts were happening and he had a conversation at this national security meeting about it. so you're left not with a lot of confidence he's being fully transparent in his disclosures and that he's answering questions that really get to the root of the question here. about what did the trump organization do, what did the president know, what did he know it? those are important oversight questions, and we've got a lot of dodging today. >> just to be blunt, do you think he lied under oath?
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>> look, he said under oath that he was not aware of any contacts between the trump organization and the russians. that is clearly not true. he finally admitted today or in subsequent statements that he was, in fact, at the meeting or presided over the meeting for mr. papadopoulos, talked about going to russia and arranging a meeting between vladimir putin and then candidate trump and that he shut that down and told him he wasn't authorized to do that. he clearly testified on a prior occasion he was unaware of any such contacts. so this is again the fifth, six, seventh person in the trump organization who had some contacts with russians and failed to dish close it. and that begins to raise increased suspicion i think when people are trying to keep secret all of these contacts between the trump organization and russian individuals that require
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not only the special prosecutor to continue his work and the intelligence committee and also the judiciary committee. we have important oversight in this area, and we're not fulfilling them because we haven't had any hearings on these issues. we'll get the panel's take on these stories next. and you'll hear from a former record store employee at the mall who said moore was on a watch list at that mall because moore was pursuing teenage girls. g and turning a thing of the past. plus, during our veteran's day savings event, save up to $500 on select adjustable mattress sets. find your exclusive retailer at tempurpedic.com. but he hasoke up wwork to do.in. so he took aleve. if he'd taken tylenol, he'd be stopping for more pills right now. only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. aleve. all day strong.
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contacts with russia. i want to play you something a moment ago because for whatever else the attorney general said today, he sure said this a lot. >> i do not recall search a conversation. i don't recall it. i don't recall. i don't recall it. i don't recall it. i don't recall that. i don't recall how that exactly occurred. i do not recall. but i did recall this event. i don't recall. i don't recall at this moment sitting here any such discussions. >> joining us is cnn chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin, former independent council michael zeldin and once formed as robert mueller's special assistant. and richard painter is with us who served as ethics attorney in the bush administration. right now he teaches law. and also justice correspondent dana bash. >> i think he probably left most
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people thinking about what they think of him going in. he's not a particularly popular figure. most polls about the trump administration wind up being about 60-40 against. ask i think that's probably what they would be for jeff sessions. and, you know, he had a tough story to sell. because he was asked by al franken, you know, did anyone have any connection with the campaign, have any contact with russia? he said categorically no a few weeks ago. now we know that that was not the case, that george papadopoulos did have contact with russia and did discuss it with sessions. and what made sessions' comments particularly a little hard to swallow was that now he remembers this conversation and he remembers giving very good advice. now, you have to wonder why he didn't remember giving such good advice when he was asked about it the first time. the good advice he said he gave
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was don't have anything to do with the russians. but it certainly didn't seem like a case of perjury that's going to be prosecuted, so i think the people who don't like jeff sessions are not going to like him and the people who like him will continue to. >> he said he remembered giving good advice but anything else at that meeting. so no details at that meeting or even what papadopoulos said but just telling him you don't represent the cam in any dealings with russia. >> i've met jeff sessions over the years. he's a very nice man. i don't always agree with him, but i've liked him. i have to say his memory with respect to anything having to do with russia is very incomplete. and we'll just have to leave it at that. he's been caught several times now testifying and seems to forget everything having to do with russia. that being said, some other
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aspects in which he's a halfway decent attorney general, i think he may resist this absurd idea they ought to be investigating hillary clinton. there's no evidence for that type of thing. and the ert thing is he's thus far not fired robert mueller. and i know they've hatched a plan to try to put him on the senate ballot down there in alabama. but if they put in a different attorney general and use that is an excuse to fire robert mueller, all hecks going to break loose and could end up with a president getting impeached. even though as they say, he's easy to forget everything to do with russia and the trump campaign. >> i just want to point out the president's actually landed at joint base andrew, air force one which has just touched down. obviously the president returning from him trip
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throughout asia. we'll see if the president makes any remarks tonight about that trump or if he's said anything on air force one to the press corp who's traveled with him. we'll bring you that as warranted. let me continue this conversation about jeff sessions. at what point does he use up all the years he's spent in congress, trying to get clarification on he's not answering questions but he's not trying to take executive privilege. >> you also just heard a sentiment mr. painter express, which is it could be a whole lot worse. jeff sessions is somebody who wasn't certainly like aninsular part of this senate club, but many people who he served with
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think of a good public servant and someone who did do the right thing at the beginning of the trump administration and recuse himself. and he is still paying the price internally from the president himself for doing exactly that. you know, you have to remember the situation that he is in. the president has railed against him in private, in public for effectively, from his sperective, ruining his administration, putting a cloud over his administration because sessions recusing himself of course led to this special counsel and led to the investigation as robust as it is now. so it's a very dicy thing because, you know, certainly there's frustration with sessions, but they also feel be careful what you wish for. >> michael, would it surprise you if special counsel mueller would be looking -- if you were mueller would you want to interview sessions? >> of course i'd want to interview sessions.
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i agree with jeffrey toobin, tow, that the questions put foorgt today and the previous two hearings will not give rise to false statements prosecution, so it is what it is. the thing that was most aggregating to me is he's been before congress now three times and didn't recall over 100 times during the three courses of the appearance there. ask you'd think that by the third time around he would have done something to refresh his recollection so when he got there this time he could say i didn't remember the first or second time, but i spent my time studying and now here are my answers. as well, anderson, when you combine that with this continued refusal to answer questions about conversations he had with the white house, when it the president has not asserted privilege and he has no sort of basis if you will, even in doj policy not to answer those questions, it's just galling and i think in some respects very
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disrespectful of the oversight responsibilities congress has. with that said i don't think mueller's got an indictment there. the other thing i want to add is that he said in answer to the questions about his security clearance, the sf 86 form, that he didn't list any foreign contacts there because he was told he didn't have to. i filled out those forms, most in government have filled out those forms. but that question, 24 b6, i think that's foejsy a little problematic if in fact that's not true. >> richard, can't someone go to congress andsert of answer questions and tell the truth and then not answer questions but the white house hasn't invoked executive privilege? can you just say, well, i don't think it's appropriate for me to say that and you're not pleading
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the fifth or anything. >> you can do whatever you want if congress is willing to let you get away with it. is and if the committee chair wants to let people get away with incomplete testimony, that's what he does. and that's what we're getting out of this congress is no effective oversight of the administration because they're afraid the president will come and support some primary challenger. so they're backing off, and they aren't exercising kbhae aggressive oversight. but that's congress' fault this is going on. and i'm not happy with the situation, where but i want to emphasize it could be a lot worse. and as the rumors are, try to solve this steve bannon created mess in alabama by putting him on the ballot down there, that's fine. but they better have an attorney general that's going to keep mueller in place, they're going to have a constitutional crisis very, very quickly in this country. >> i think the point uguys are making is an important one and
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one we should emphasize which is i was someone who watched jeff sessions the senator for years and years and years. and i was just imagining him being on that panel today and getting the nonanswer after nonanswer after nonanswer from say the obama administration or the bush administration. he rightly would have been out raged because it flies in the face of the oversight responsibility that both congress and those who work for the executive branch are supposed to adhere to. and so if you want to add this to the long list of why people are so fed up with washington because when the shoe is on the other foot it looks a whole lot different, this is great example. >> thanks to everyone on the panel tonight. as you see the president has arrived, has landed on joint base andrews back in washington after his asia trip. we're waiting for him to be coming down off of air force one, see if he makes any comments. also on the left-hand side of
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your screen, watching the revival where former judge roy moore and his wife are seated. roy moore expected to speak there tonight. we're going to monitor that to see if he makes any comments about the number of allegations which have piled up against him also tonight that we'll bring to you shortly. we're going to take a quick break. our coverage continues in just a moment. the ceramides in cerave. they help restore my natural barrier, so i can lock in moisture and keep us protected. we've got to have each other's backs and fronts. cerave. what your skin craves.
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if they're investigating ties between hillary clinton and the clinton foundation and the sale of uranium to russia. jessica snider with that story. >> reporter: democratic lawmakers pressing hard today over whether the white house is using the doj to go after hillary clinton. >> in a democracy is it common for the leader of a country to order the criminal justice system to retaliate against his political opponents? >> i would say that the department of justice can never be used to retaliate politically against opponents. and that would be wrong. >> reporter: the question now at the forefront, because of this letter from assistant attorney general steven boyd sent monday night informing the house judiciary committee several prosecutors would evaluate whether a second special counsel is appropriate. after a house committee announced its own probe after
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hillary clinton improperly influenced the approval of a sale to russia because of russia backed business donations to the clinton foundation, the president pressed for a probe. >> i'm not involved with the justice department i'd like to let it run itself but honestly they should be looking at the democrats. >> to be very clear you intend to recuse yourself from both the clinton e-mail investigation and any matters involving the clinton foundation if there are any? >> yes. >> reporter: but before the house judiciary, sessions seemed to waiver. >> are you recused from investigations that involve secretary clinton? >> mr. chairman, i cannot answer that yes or no because under the policies of the department of justice to announce recusal in any investigation would reveal the existence of that investigation.
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and the top ethics officials have advised me i should not do so. >> reporter: before finally answering yes. >> at your confirmation here you said the proper thing to do would be for me to recuse myself. do you stand by that statement yes or no? >> yes. >> what are the other deals focused on? >> yeah, the justice department, anderson, going aggressively after leaks. sessions disclosed today that the doj has 27 open investigations into the leaks of classified information. that includes leaks to journalists. now, this is huge jump from years past where there were just nine investigations in the past three years. of course, anderson, president trump has made leaks a big focus. and now we're getting a closer look of how big of a focus it is for the justice department, too. >> jeffrey, the president has
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said he wants the doj to investigate hillary clinton. could he be clear about what he wants his attorney general to do? >> no, he couldn't. and now we're going to see how the justice department decides and whether it's going to start investigating the person who lost the last presidential election. >> you think it's that bad? >> oh, if this goes forward based on this evidence, this willby a very low moment in the history of american law enforcement. when you think about the incredible absence of evidence of any wrongdoing by hillary clinton and the fact that the president of the united states has all but ordered his attorney general to investigate his political rival, it is a deeply, deeply scary prospect. >> professor, do you see it the same way?
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>> well, i don't see it -- i don't go as far as certainly jeff does with these analogies with other countries. i think it is important to start out by saying i agree the president shouldn't be making these statements. i consider it inappropriate. and also works against his interests. anything the justice department does after making statements of that kind does fall into this nar ffb, and it's onfair narrative when the president says he wants them to investigate. putting that aside, many people in this country believe that the russians not only influenced thelection but may have influenced before the election. this country is divided. i supported the appointment of the special counsel once comey was fired because i thought people really do need to get answers here. and i think people deserve answers on the clinton side as well. a lot of money went through the foundation and also to the clintons personally from foreign sources. i don't think that's a trivial concern. i don't think you can simply dismiss it. i don't personally believe there
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is strong evidence against hillary clinton. i'm equally skeptical about the case about president trump. but at some point i think it does work to the benefit of the public to get answers to all this. but having said that, he has signed -- the attorney general has given the career prosecutors to make a decision whether there's anything there. if they come back and say you know what, there's not, then we have our answer and that brings nor closure. >> we don't do law enforcement investigations in this country because people are just curious. you know, that is a very serious thing to do a law enforcement investigation. yes, the clinton foundation raised a lot of money. yes the clintons gave speeches. so what? that is not a crime. that's not evidence of a crime. the president of the united states fired the fbi director because the fbi director was investigating the president of the united states. that is prima facie evidence of obstruction of justice. that's why we have a special
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prosecutor in this case. just because people are curious about the clintons and fox news runs the news every night constantly, that is not a justification of the justice department to investigate the clintons. >> i have to disagree with my friend, jeff. frankly, i think there's an odd contrast of presumptions here. i think there's a lot of presumptions about the potential criminality throughout the russia investigation. what the clintons did, they weren't trivial amounts of money, and they weren't curiosity. i happen to think that -- i don't think she's necessarily gelt, and i think the evidence is unlikely to show that. but to say this is mere curiosity really shows a contrast in presumption. we have a very serious problem in this country about loads of money going to powerful people making very serious issues in
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country affected by scissions. to say that's a curiosity is being too dismissive. >> a uranium company got a contract from a u.s. government after nine agencies of which the state department was one approved this contract. why should the fbi be investigating people, the clintons, for something that she had absolutely no control over? >> now, jeff, i actually agree with you that i think the connection between hillary clinton and uranium one seems quite -- but there are questions between hillary clinton and foreign organizations and requests being made before or after these contributions were made to the state department. and it raised concerns not just by critics but people in the government. to say that's a mere curiosity i think is a bit too dismissive.
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>> let's leave it there. appreciate it. new details are still amerging about senate candidate roy moore. we're now learning about allegations he was on a watch list at a local mall in the 1980s after allegedly trolling for underage girls. in addition, we're continuing to monitor the revival meeting for anything moore has to say about these allegations. the latest details from the scene when we continue. it's a lot easier to make decisions when you know what comes next. if you move your old 401(k) to a fidelity ira, we make sure you're in the loop at every step from the moment you decide to move your money to the instant your new retirement account is funded. ♪ oh and at fidelity, you'll see how all your investments are working together. because when you know where you stand, things are just clearer.
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for allegedly trying to pick up teenage girls. gary tuchman spent the day trying to track down that story. you talked to a lot of people there. what have crow learned? >> well, they tell you roy moore is beloved in the state of alabama by not by everybody. today numerous people were pulled aside to tell us about their claims of things they saw or heard about moore's behavior with teenage girls before he got married in 1985. we can tell you most of those people did not want to go on camera, but one man did with a relatedsterry. he worked at local mall here between 1980 and 1985. he said when he was hired the mall had a list of people ban said from the mall. people on that list included pick pockets and other kinds of criminals ask also included a certain assistant district attorney. >> we talked about other people
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and then somebody said and don't forget about roy moore. and i asked what about roy moore, and they said, well, he's banned from the mall. i said why is he banned and the police officer wouldn't tell me. he said if you see him, let me know, i'll take care of it. >> reporter: so what did he eventually learn for the reason? >> i was told he was bothering girls in the mall. >> reporter: in what way? >> i don't know exactly. that he was approaching them and talking to them. >> reporter: girls. when you're saying girls -- >> teenage girls. >> reporter: and did you ever see him in the mall? >> i think i saw him walk by the front of the store once. i told my manager, and my manager said i'll call jd, and that's i i ever heard. >> reporter: and jd is the police officer? >> yes. and one day he came in with his wife in bolt records and left and nobody said anything about it. >> did you report it?
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>> no. >> why didn't you report it? >> because everyone said this is fine, and i said okay. i don't know about any behavior towards any women. all i know is experience with him in the mall at that time. and that's the truth. you asked me and i told you. >> he worked in the record bar music store between 1981 and 1985. roy moore was in his 30s back then. now, we've tried to contact the man who was the head of security 30 to 40 years ago, that man who was mentioned dj. he's not returned our calls at this point. we can tell you local police in gadsten said they have not worked with the mall. we talked to the people who run the malls today. and they say today they doven official list of people who are banned from the mall, people who violated mall policy. but 30 years ago they did not
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own the pall, so they do not what the policy was like back in those days. >> and if you asked to the gentleman you talked to where he stands politically, do you know. >> reporter: right. he tells us he's a democrat, but he says he doesn't vote by party but honor. he said he wanted to talk to us because he felt very strongly about this issue. he did not want to talk on camera, anderson. he was frightsened to talk on camera, but he said he believed it was ultimately thought it was important. and he has been attacked on the internet. >> lawmakers on capitol hill are condemning moore. ryan nobles joins us from capitol hill with that story. paul ryan weighed in on moore in no uncertain terms. what's the latest? >> reporter: that's right, anderson. the speaker not mincing words.
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he suggested it's time for the candidate to step aside. and he said he also believes the he believes the allegations made by these women are credible and they should be listened to. this marks a shift in tone up here on capitol hill, no longer the qualifier of being used by many members of congress saying originally if these alleges are true, moore should step aside. many are saying it's time for him to end his campaign. at this point roy moore doesn't seem to be heeding those warnings. >> senator mcconnell also took a stance on this today, right? >> yeah that's right. he took it all the way to the top. he went to president trump. he phoned him during his trip to asia to ask him how this should be handled by the white house and republican leadership here. you know, the white house has taken a very cautious approach to this. they have not said specifically that it's time for moore to tell step down. but they have expressed some concern. and there is a feeling that now that the president is back here
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in washington, that he will become more actively involved in this situation. >> the tension between the republican establishment and moore, which is obviously going on for a while. it's at a heightened pitch right now. is moore using to it his advantage right now? he has been fundraising on this notion that he's being targeted. >> he certainly is, anderson. there's an argument to be made that these calls by the republican establishment here on washington plays into his campaign handbook. this is a guy that fancies himself an outsider running against the establishment. today he wen on twitter and specifically called for mitch mcconnell to step down as majority leader. and he's using the hash tag inside hack job. he believes the republican establishment is out to get him. he believes that will play well with his base. frankly, there isn't a whole lot that republican leaders here in washington can do to stop his candidacy. he will remain on the ballot when voters go to the polls in december.
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the only chance the republicans have will be the attempt to mount some sort of a write-in campaign which would be a long shot at best. the best they can hope, if he does win election in december that they make some sort of an attempt to expel him from office, which would be rare here on capitol hill and difficult to do. anderson? >> thanks. coming up, four people are dead after a shooting rampage in northern california. there were multiple locations, including an elementary school. i'll tell you how police say it started and ended, next. help defend against those digestive issues. take phillips' colon health probiotic caps daily with three types of good bacteria. 400 likes? wow! try phillips' colon health.
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a shooter killed at least four people during a rampage through a county in northern california. law enforcement officials say the gunman shot at least seven separate locations, including an elementary school before he himself was shot dead by police. dan simon joins us now with the latest. a police press conference just wrapped up. what have we learned? >> well, anderson, this all began as some kind of neighborhood or domestic dispute, and then it quickly spiraled out of control. after an initial burst of gunfire where a shooter was targeting a woman he had been feuding with, he gets into a stolen pickup truck, and randomly starting shooting into people's homes. at some point he crashes that pickup truck. and then according to authorities, he carjacks a driver and randomly starts shooting even more people. at one point he hits a woman driving to school with her children in the back seat. that woman, that young mother was shot.
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she's in the hospital with life threatening injuries. there is also a boy in the back seat who was also apparently shot or wounded by some shrapnel. he is expected to survive. and then things really get frightening. the shooter then shows up at an elementary school armed with a semiautomatic rifle, several handguns, and then starts shooting at the school. he is shattering windows. he is shooting through walls. we know at least one boy is injured. he is expected to survive. other people were wound by the glass. listen to the assistant sheriff who explained the situation happening at the school. take a look. >> the shooter literally took his vehicle and rammed their fence and gate, entered the grounds on foot with a semiautomatic rifle that had multiround clip. he was wearing a load bearing vest that you sometimes see
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soldiers wear that have the clips embedded in the chest. and he literally, because it appears that because he couldn't make access to any of the rooms, that they were locked, that he gave it up and reentered the vehicle and then went on his killing spree and took it to the streets of rancho tehama. >> so authorities saying there could have been many more victims. that assistant sheriff crediting the quick thinking actions at the school. the school immediately went under lockdown and says because of that, in his words, the shooter was frustrated and then left. he was then apprehended or engaged by authorities a couple of blocks away where there was a shoot-out and he was shot dead. anderson? >> appreciate that thanks very much. coming up, attorney general jeff sessions back on capitol hill telling a different version of events involving contact with russia than the other times he
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